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I dreamt that I was on a beach and suddenly two people were falling from the sky. They weren't falling FROM anything (like a balloon or an airplane. One of them struck the earth near me and I ran there to see if there was anything I could do but they were clearly dead. I don't remember seeing the other one hit the ground or if they landed in the water. Also the one that landed near me I got a good look at their face and it was no one I recognized.

I did look up and there were more people falling. I remember counting and there were thirteen others falling. (I seriously pondered this dream all day until around 4 p.m. it dawned on me that this was 15 total and maybe it referred to the 15 PSRs.) I wondered where they were falling from, and I was immediately carried to the top of a mountain and into the inside of an adobe structure that was in ruins. I remember there were big chunks of wall missing and no glass in the window frame, etc. I was impressed that something like a tornado had struck the building which was not all that big, and those 15 people had been sucked out by the tornado and then I guess just ejected and fell from the sky.

After a lot of pondering my FEELING is the 15 are the First Presidency and quorum of the twelve. perhaps not the current ones. I'll also emphasize that I only saw the final fate of ONE, I was left with the impression that the 2nd one also died but I didn't see it. And the other thirteen I only saw them falling but was carried to the mountain top while they were still falling and were still high up.

Because of the mountain top, I feel that the adobe ruin represented either a temple or the church. It just now struck me that it was a HOUSE because "On my house shall (the cleansing) begin".

And I'll be the first to admit that this could all just be my subconscious throwing archetypes at me. I'm not claiming prophecy or that my interpretation is on point. Like I said, I can only tell you that I had this dream and the impressions I have had.

"2: 28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:

29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.

30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.

31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the LORD come.
" Joel



"Every member of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints poses for an iconic photograph in the Rome Italy Temple Visitors’ Center in Rome, Italy, on Monday, March 11, 2019.

The dedication of the Rome Italy Temple is “a hinge point in the history of the Church. Things are going to move forward at an accelerated pace. The Church is going to have an unprecedented future, unparalleled. We're just building up to what is ahead now.”

“It means so much for the restored Church and its members to have a temple in Rome, which is the capital of all Christianity and a place where our predecessors as Apostles of the Lord Jesus Christ gave their lives. It is a blessing of the Lord to be here and to have our spirits lifted and to receive the inspiration of the Lord to perform the tasks assigned to us as part of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.”
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https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/chu ... n?lang=eng


"Naturally, Casey pops up in O’Brien’s narrative. Like many of the other perpetrators, he speaks freely in front of mind-controlled slaves like Cathy, assuming she will not survive or ever be sane enough to tell her story.

“I have World Vision,” he says, “one of peace. By removing the more violent factions of societies world-wide and replacing them with faithful leaders of one world government and the one world church, global unification is imminent. It is a beautiful vision, and it came to me in dreams. God has moved me to move men. I’ve moved them here and I’ve moved them there – now it is time to remove them. My World Vision encompasses the world and puts to rest all tensions, strife, over-population and starvation. My vision is a World Vision, and the churches see it my way, as evidenced by their support of the cause. After all,” he proclaimed, “even the Pope and the Mormon Prophet know that this is the only way to peace, and they cooperate fully with The Project.”
"
https://thelethaltext.me/2016/10/25/the ... in-silent/
"❝one world church - Pope and the Mormon Prophet - cooperate fully with The Project - through genocide, alter genetics❞
Post by sushi_chef » Fri Oct 01, 2021
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I suppose if one or two of the PSRs "fall" (my feeling is this wasn't literal death but they will be perhaps publicly shamed (?) Perhaps the other 13 will repent (?) or somehow save themselves or at least maybe have the opportunity to do so.

Original_Intent wrote: ↑November 23rd, 2021, 7:39 pm I dreamt that I was on a beach and suddenly two people were falling from the sky. They weren't falling FROM anything (like a balloon or an airplane. One of them struck the earth near me and I ran there to see if there was anything I could do but they were clearly dead. I don't remember seeing the other one hit the ground or if they landed in the water. Also the one that landed near me I got a good look at their face and it was no one I recognized.

I did look up and there were more people falling. I remember counting and there were thirteen others falling. (I seriously pondered this dream all day until around 4 p.m. it dawned on me that this was 15 total and maybe it referred to the 15 PSRs.) I wondered where they were falling from, and I was immediately carried to the top of a mountain and into the inside of an adobe structure that was in ruins. I remember there were big chunks of wall missing and no glass in the window frame, etc. I was impressed that something like a tornado had struck the building which was not all that big, and those 15 people had been sucked out by the tornado and then I guess just ejected and fell from the sky.

After a lot of pondering my FEELING is the 15 are the First Presidency and quorum of the twelve. perhaps not the current ones. I'll also emphasize that I only saw the final fate of ONE, I was left with the impression that the 2nd one also died but I didn't see it. And the other thirteen I only saw them falling but was carried to the mountain top while they were still falling and were still high up.

Because of the mountain top, I feel that the adobe ruin represented either a temple or the church. It just now struck me that it was a HOUSE because "On my house shall (the cleansing) begin".

And I'll be the first to admit that this could all just be my subconscious throwing archetypes at me. I'm not claiming prophecy or that my interpretation is on point. Like I said, I can only tell you that I had this dream and the impressions I have had.

Let’s dig in here, if we may...

Your being on the beach usually indicates you’re at a meeting of two states of mind - the rational (represented by the sand) and the emotional or irrational (represented by the water). *Note that emotion doesn’t necessarily mean lack of reason - - it could merely mean the seat of the mind occupied by things like programming.

The people falling from the sky might illustrate your attitude/perception (air = thoughts) toward either ideas or the people themselves. The fact that you believe it could be the 15 PSRs lends itself to that idea being what your dreaming mind wants to show you. They probably have “fallen” down from wherever they used to be, in your estimation, and one or two especially. Your attitude toward one in particular is irredeemably damaged.

The adobe is supposed to be linked, archetypically, to tradition. So if the cracks are beginning to show, as they say, you can probably guess what that means.

Is any of this ringing true? Only the dreamer can say.

Original_Intent wrote: ↑November 23rd, 2021, 7:39 pm I dreamt that I was on a beach and suddenly two people were falling from the sky. They weren't falling FROM anything (like a balloon or an airplane. One of them struck the earth near me and I ran there to see if there was anything I could do but they were clearly dead. I don't remember seeing the other one hit the ground or if they landed in the water. Also the one that landed near me I got a good look at their face and it was no one I recognized.

I did look up and there were more people falling. I remember counting and there were thirteen others falling. (I seriously pondered this dream all day until around 4 p.m. it dawned on me that this was 15 total and maybe it referred to the 15 PSRs.) I wondered where they were falling from, and I was immediately carried to the top of a mountain and into the inside of an adobe structure that was in ruins. I remember there were big chunks of wall missing and no glass in the window frame, etc. I was impressed that something like a tornado had struck the building which was not all that big, and those 15 people had been sucked out by the tornado and then I guess just ejected and fell from the sky.

After a lot of pondering my FEELING is the 15 are the First Presidency and quorum of the twelve. perhaps not the current ones. I'll also emphasize that I only saw the final fate of ONE, I was left with the impression that the 2nd one also died but I didn't see it. And the other thirteen I only saw them falling but was carried to the mountain top while they were still falling and were still high up.

Because of the mountain top, I feel that the adobe ruin represented either a temple or the church. It just now struck me that it was a HOUSE because "On my house shall (the cleansing) begin".

And I'll be the first to admit that this could all just be my subconscious throwing archetypes at me. I'm not claiming prophecy or that my interpretation is on point. Like I said, I can only tell you that I had this dream and the impressions I have had.

I love your interpretation already. At some point the unconscious and the conscious meet. That is when you get the actual "and it came to pass" and where dreams do manifest or at least have an effect on our physical reality. It would be interesting if there were some actual prophetic undertones here.

I imagine the more we learn to consciously process what is going on in our sleeping states, the more we can manifest the miracles we want and put that which we do not want to manifest under our feet.

From what you said about archetypes, maybe some of this can offer further insight that may be of value. It is just an opinion of course:

The two people falling from the sky represent two sides or division. Division is not wholeness. So, as true restoration occurs psychologically, the two separated parts are no longer able to maintain identities. The identity falls.

Interpreting those who fall as the fifteen PSRs is your subconscious continuing to offer you symbols to process. To you in your psyche, they are used to represent principles that are no longer important to you as separate processes. They were living in an old ideology and you stand on a firmer ideology now. The essence of those information processes is sucked out of the old compartmentalization processes you used to have so they can be merged and integrated as a whole in you in your waking self.

Again, the original two, one on land, one on water, represents healing a major trauma most people have that goes back to conception. The sperm is water the earth is egg. Together they represent the mental and emotional processes. They are supposed to come together and be whole and new. But for most people they maintain their separate identities. This is where you get left and right brain thinking patterns. To have the two separate bodies fall means you have merged these parts of yourself into one great whole.

The fifteen also represent different processes in your body, heart, and mind that are being integrated such that they no longer need to processes information in a compartmentalized situation. These processes can go back to precellular organelles that merged incompletely in creating the egg or sperm cells and in your sleep you are healing and merging those parts of yourself now.

Parts of your consciousness that were left hanging out in the aether due to precellular development traumas are being brought back to reality so you can utilize them in your waking life. The old structures they used to dwell in are not needed.

Going forward, do you feel an immense sense of peace? Do you have more grounded yet spiritual insights? Does life feel more beautiful?

Because that is usually the result of merging the different "brains" aka processing centers in the body, mind, and heart.

The peak states instutute helps people do regression work to heal these archetypes. It appears as if you are doing it naturally. Well done.

Pazooka wrote: ↑November 23rd, 2021, 8:56 pm

Original_Intent wrote: ↑November 23rd, 2021, 7:39 pm I dreamt that I was on a beach and suddenly two people were falling from the sky. They weren't falling FROM anything (like a balloon or an airplane. One of them struck the earth near me and I ran there to see if there was anything I could do but they were clearly dead. I don't remember seeing the other one hit the ground or if they landed in the water. Also the one that landed near me I got a good look at their face and it was no one I recognized.

I did look up and there were more people falling. I remember counting and there were thirteen others falling. (I seriously pondered this dream all day until around 4 p.m. it dawned on me that this was 15 total and maybe it referred to the 15 PSRs.) I wondered where they were falling from, and I was immediately carried to the top of a mountain and into the inside of an adobe structure that was in ruins. I remember there were big chunks of wall missing and no glass in the window frame, etc. I was impressed that something like a tornado had struck the building which was not all that big, and those 15 people had been sucked out by the tornado and then I guess just ejected and fell from the sky.

After a lot of pondering my FEELING is the 15 are the First Presidency and quorum of the twelve. perhaps not the current ones. I'll also emphasize that I only saw the final fate of ONE, I was left with the impression that the 2nd one also died but I didn't see it. And the other thirteen I only saw them falling but was carried to the mountain top while they were still falling and were still high up.

Because of the mountain top, I feel that the adobe ruin represented either a temple or the church. It just now struck me that it was a HOUSE because "On my house shall (the cleansing) begin".

And I'll be the first to admit that this could all just be my subconscious throwing archetypes at me. I'm not claiming prophecy or that my interpretation is on point. Like I said, I can only tell you that I had this dream and the impressions I have had.

Let’s dig in here, if we may...

Your being on the beach usually indicates you’re at a meeting of two states of mind - the rational (represented by the sand) and the emotional or irrational (represented by the water). *Note that emotion doesn’t necessarily mean lack of reason - - it could merely mean the seat of the mind occupied by things like programming.

The people falling from the sky might illustrate your attitude/perception (air = thoughts) toward either ideas or the people themselves. The fact that you believe it could be the 15 PSRs lends itself to that idea being what your dreaming mind wants to show you. They probably have “fallen” down from wherever they used to be, in your estimation, and one or two especially. Your attitude toward one in particular is irredeemably damaged.

The adobe is supposed to be linked, archetypically, to tradition. So if the cracks are beginning to show, as they say, you can probably guess what that means.

Is any of this ringing true? Only the dreamer can say.

Amazing and precise.

Juliet wrote: ↑November 23rd, 2021, 9:04 pm

Pazooka wrote: ↑November 23rd, 2021, 8:56 pm

Original_Intent wrote: ↑November 23rd, 2021, 7:39 pm I dreamt that I was on a beach and suddenly two people were falling from the sky. They weren't falling FROM anything (like a balloon or an airplane. One of them struck the earth near me and I ran there to see if there was anything I could do but they were clearly dead. I don't remember seeing the other one hit the ground or if they landed in the water. Also the one that landed near me I got a good look at their face and it was no one I recognized.

I did look up and there were more people falling. I remember counting and there were thirteen others falling. (I seriously pondered this dream all day until around 4 p.m. it dawned on me that this was 15 total and maybe it referred to the 15 PSRs.) I wondered where they were falling from, and I was immediately carried to the top of a mountain and into the inside of an adobe structure that was in ruins. I remember there were big chunks of wall missing and no glass in the window frame, etc. I was impressed that something like a tornado had struck the building which was not all that big, and those 15 people had been sucked out by the tornado and then I guess just ejected and fell from the sky.

After a lot of pondering my FEELING is the 15 are the First Presidency and quorum of the twelve. perhaps not the current ones. I'll also emphasize that I only saw the final fate of ONE, I was left with the impression that the 2nd one also died but I didn't see it. And the other thirteen I only saw them falling but was carried to the mountain top while they were still falling and were still high up.

Because of the mountain top, I feel that the adobe ruin represented either a temple or the church. It just now struck me that it was a HOUSE because "On my house shall (the cleansing) begin".

And I'll be the first to admit that this could all just be my subconscious throwing archetypes at me. I'm not claiming prophecy or that my interpretation is on point. Like I said, I can only tell you that I had this dream and the impressions I have had.

Let’s dig in here, if we may...

Your being on the beach usually indicates you’re at a meeting of two states of mind - the rational (represented by the sand) and the emotional or irrational (represented by the water). *Note that emotion doesn’t necessarily mean lack of reason - - it could merely mean the seat of the mind occupied by things like programming.

The people falling from the sky might illustrate your attitude/perception (air = thoughts) toward either ideas or the people themselves. The fact that you believe it could be the 15 PSRs lends itself to that idea being what your dreaming mind wants to show you. They probably have “fallen” down from wherever they used to be, in your estimation, and one or two especially. Your attitude toward one in particular is irredeemably damaged.

The adobe is supposed to be linked, archetypically, to tradition. So if the cracks are beginning to show, as they say, you can probably guess what that means.

Is any of this ringing true? Only the dreamer can say.

Amazing and precise.

Ahh, thanks - you’re the nicest. I wish people would post more dreams on the forum. It’s better than crossword puzzles

Original_Intent wrote: ↑November 23rd, 2021, 7:39 pm I dreamt that I was on a beach and suddenly two people were falling from the sky. They weren't falling FROM anything (like a balloon or an airplane. One of them struck the earth near me and I ran there to see if there was anything I could do but they were clearly dead. I don't remember seeing the other one hit the ground or if they landed in the water. Also the one that landed near me I got a good look at their face and it was no one I recognized.

I did look up and there were more people falling. I remember counting and there were thirteen others falling. (I seriously pondered this dream all day until around 4 p.m. it dawned on me that this was 15 total and maybe it referred to the 15 PSRs.) I wondered where they were falling from, and I was immediately carried to the top of a mountain and into the inside of an adobe structure that was in ruins. I remember there were big chunks of wall missing and no glass in the window frame, etc. I was impressed that something like a tornado had struck the building which was not all that big, and those 15 people had been sucked out by the tornado and then I guess just ejected and fell from the sky.

After a lot of pondering my FEELING is the 15 are the First Presidency and quorum of the twelve. perhaps not the current ones. I'll also emphasize that I only saw the final fate of ONE, I was left with the impression that the 2nd one also died but I didn't see it. And the other thirteen I only saw them falling but was carried to the mountain top while they were still falling and were still high up.

Because of the mountain top, I feel that the adobe ruin represented either a temple or the church. It just now struck me that it was a HOUSE because "On my house shall (the cleansing) begin".

And I'll be the first to admit that this could all just be my subconscious throwing archetypes at me. I'm not claiming prophecy or that my interpretation is on point. Like I said, I can only tell you that I had this dream and the impressions I have had.

...it sounds very much like a vision to me...take a few days to digest, contemplate and let the spirit dictate your understanding. Sometimes it becomes clearer over time when you have cleared your mind of all other distractions and when you are at peace; is a very good time in my opinion to petition the Lord for guidance...

...visions are the abode of both Christ and the devil...it will become clearer to you which one is which over time...

...Satan has been very active lately and in my own experience he is using light (...a portion only) to confuse and distract....but I am confident you will know the difference....

My opinion...trust in the Lord...the Lord qualifies those He loves...

...it seems to me He is loving on you at the moment...!

Y'all have given me some good insights. Pazooka in particular hit some points that I need to consider.

Juliet asked if going forward I have an immense sense of peace? Actually, I have felt very troubled for a few weeks at least. Sleeping poorly, things are just feeling out of synch. Like not just a little bit. Doesn't feel like depression or anxiety. Just a sense of things aren't right.

Original_Intent wrote: ↑November 23rd, 2021, 9:30 pm ... Just a sense of things aren't right.

It’s the apathetic response to a certain story told by an expected one, but it’s all going to plan, much the same as the forbidden fruit folly.

Actually, I have felt very troubled for a few weeks at least. Sleeping poorly, things are just feeling out of synch. Like not just a little bit. Doesn't feel like depression or anxiety. Just a sense of things aren't right.

Things aren't right! Things aren't right in every way imaginable! The only 'control' we have is to trust Christ the Creator - regardless what happens.

'The World' has willfully turned its back on the profound meaning of our Savior having been born in an animal shelter - a barn.

27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness. Matthew 23

sushi_chef wrote: ↑November 23rd, 2021, 8:27 pm "2: 28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:

29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.

30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.

31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the LORD come.
" Joel



"Every member of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints poses for an iconic photograph in the Rome Italy Temple Visitors’ Center in Rome, Italy, on Monday, March 11, 2019.

The dedication of the Rome Italy Temple is “a hinge point in the history of the Church. Things are going to move forward at an accelerated pace. The Church is going to have an unprecedented future, unparalleled. We're just building up to what is ahead now.”

“It means so much for the restored Church and its members to have a temple in Rome, which is the capital of all Christianity and a place where our predecessors as Apostles of the Lord Jesus Christ gave their lives. It is a blessing of the Lord to be here and to have our spirits lifted and to receive the inspiration of the Lord to perform the tasks assigned to us as part of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.”
"
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/chu ... n?lang=eng


"Naturally, Casey pops up in O’Brien’s narrative. Like many of the other perpetrators, he speaks freely in front of mind-controlled slaves like Cathy, assuming she will not survive or ever be sane enough to tell her story.

“I have World Vision,” he says, “one of peace. By removing the more violent factions of societies world-wide and replacing them with faithful leaders of one world government and the one world church, global unification is imminent. It is a beautiful vision, and it came to me in dreams. God has moved me to move men. I’ve moved them here and I’ve moved them there – now it is time to remove them. My World Vision encompasses the world and puts to rest all tensions, strife, over-population and starvation. My vision is a World Vision, and the churches see it my way, as evidenced by their support of the cause. After all,” he proclaimed, “even the Pope and the Mormon Prophet know that this is the only way to peace, and they cooperate fully with The Project.”
"
https://thelethaltext.me/2016/10/25/the ... in-silent/
"❝one world church - Pope and the Mormon Prophet - cooperate fully with The Project - through genocide, alter genetics❞
Post by sushi_chef » Fri Oct 01, 2021
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Who said the I have world vision quote?

"“We will know when our disinformation campaign is complete,” said Reagan’s CIA Director, William Casey, “when everything the American public believes is false.”

Naturally, Casey pops up in O’Brien’s narrative. Like many of the other perpetrators, he speaks freely in front of mind-controlled slaves like Cathy, assuming she will not survive or ever be sane enough to tell her story.

“I have World Vision,” he says, “one of peace. By removing the more violent factions of societies world-wide and ...
"
above

I get a lot of puns (visual and verbal) in my dreams so an adobe building with people tumbling out of it? Adobe Acrobats!

Pazooka makes a couple of good points - the beach represents the meeting place of two natures, and the two falling seems to tie into that. Note also in Revelation that the "sea" seems to represent a mass of peoples a lot of the time.

Original_Intent wrote: ↑November 23rd, 2021, 9:30 pm Y'all have given me some good insights. Pazooka in particular hit some points that I need to consider.

Juliet asked if going forward I have an immense sense of peace? Actually, I have felt very troubled for a few weeks at least. Sleeping poorly, things are just feeling out of synch. Like not just a little bit. Doesn't feel like depression or anxiety. Just a sense of things aren't right.

Maybe you are tapping into things going on on a global scale.

Juliet wrote: ↑November 24th, 2021, 6:21 am

Original_Intent wrote: ↑November 23rd, 2021, 9:30 pm Y'all have given me some good insights. Pazooka in particular hit some points that I need to consider.

Juliet asked if going forward I have an immense sense of peace? Actually, I have felt very troubled for a few weeks at least. Sleeping poorly, things are just feeling out of synch. Like not just a little bit. Doesn't feel like depression or anxiety. Just a sense of things aren't right.

Maybe you are tapping into things going on on a global scale.

Very possible. I blame Blipits(tm) then.

Pazooka, when you said "Your attitude towards one is irredeemably damaged, I immediately thought of Brigham Young. Quite a few of your points resonated with me and felt right.

Original_Intent wrote: ↑November 24th, 2021, 8:18 am Pazooka, when you said "Your attitude towards one is irredeemably damaged, I immediately thought of Brigham Young. Quite a few of your points resonated with me and felt right.

You have to keep in mind that a dream is just illustrating for you what you’re experiencing, in symbolic form. Too often we take our dreams to be prophetic or from God when they’re really just genius ways of helping us process what we’re going through. It’s not a message from God that Brigham Young is fallen - just a message from yourself that you’re experiencing him falling from grace in your perspective.

Juliet wrote: ↑November 24th, 2021, 6:21 am

Original_Intent wrote: ↑November 23rd, 2021, 9:30 pm Y'all have given me some good insights. Pazooka in particular hit some points that I need to consider.

Juliet asked if going forward I have an immense sense of peace? Actually, I have felt very troubled for a few weeks at least. Sleeping poorly, things are just feeling out of synch. Like not just a little bit. Doesn't feel like depression or anxiety. Just a sense of things aren't right.

Maybe you are tapping into things going on on a global scale.

In late 2019, I felt that terrible things were being planned. I put it down to depression or paranoia. I found out of course that in October, 2019, Event 201 had taken place which was a pandemic dry run. Not necessarily a pre-planned event, but of how they would manipulate it.

Pazooka wrote: ↑November 24th, 2021, 8:25 am

Original_Intent wrote: ↑November 24th, 2021, 8:18 am Pazooka, when you said "Your attitude towards one is irredeemably damaged, I immediately thought of Brigham Young. Quite a few of your points resonated with me and felt right.

You have to keep in mind that a dream is just illustrating for you what you’re experiencing, in symbolic form. Too often we take our dreams to be prophetic or from God when they’re really just genius ways of helping us process what we’re going through. It’s not a message from God that Brigham Young is fallen - just a message from yourself that you’re experiencing him falling from grace in your perspective.

Yes, exactly.

sushi_chef wrote: ↑November 23rd, 2021, 11:05 pm "“We will know when our disinformation campaign is complete,” said Reagan’s CIA Director, William Casey, “when everything the American public believes is false.”

Naturally, Casey pops up in O’Brien’s narrative. Like many of the other perpetrators, he speaks freely in front of mind-controlled slaves like Cathy, assuming she will not survive or ever be sane enough to tell her story.

“I have World Vision,” he says, “one of peace. By removing the more violent factions of societies world-wide and ...
"above

Was it also Casey who referred to the c i a propaganda machine as the "Mighty Wurlitzer'?

Don't you just love how sociopaths take pleasure in openly strutting lucifer's scheme in front of those they deem dross? Of course, we are so busy trying to survive or being misdirected with extortion, idols & tinker-toys, we don't hear.

Sadly, that seems to also apply to being deaf to divine messages.

Original-Intent ~ There are dreams I've experienced over the course of my life - from childhood on - which I recall to mind as clearly as the day I awoke from them. The ones that stay with me may not have literally come to pass, but when they come to mind, I find comfort and meaning from the very fact they have remained with me over decades of life with the same light and clarity. In some I even experienced scent, color, warmth from sunlight, & historical context.

Sushi_chef cited The Book of Joel. Worth a careful read - ALL three chapters! https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... l?lang=eng

Perhaps... "You may be an undigested bit of beef, a blot of mustard, a crumb of cheese, a fragment of underdone potato. There's more of gravy than of grave about you, whatever you are!"

Mindfields wrote: ↑November 24th, 2021, 2:10 pm Perhaps... "You may be an undigested bit of beef, a blot of mustard, a crumb of cheese, a fragment of underdone potato. There's more of gravy than of grave about you, whatever you are!"

But then, that wasn't actually the case, was it.

buffalo_girl wrote: ↑November 24th, 2021, 2:46 pm

Mindfields wrote: ↑November 24th, 2021, 2:10 pm Perhaps... "You may be an undigested bit of beef, a blot of mustard, a crumb of cheese, a fragment of underdone potato. There's more of gravy than of grave about you, whatever you are!"

But then, that wasn't actually the case, was it.

No it wasn't.

Pazooka wrote: ↑November 24th, 2021, 8:25 am You have to keep in mind that a dream is just illustrating for you what you’re experiencing, in symbolic form. Too often we take our dreams to be prophetic or from God when they’re really just genius ways of helping us process what we’re going through. It’s not a message from God that Brigham Young is fallen - just a message from yourself that you’re experiencing him falling from grace in your perspective.

Dreams about the future happen. They're not supposed to happen, but they do, and to many people.

Not just things of personal relevance, but dreams about world events that have no direct relation to them.

One idea, going off the LDS path, is that something from future events, and especially mass traumas, travels back into the past.

Right now, many major religious bodies, including the LDS have hitched themselves to an "ally" who will turn and stab them in the back. Globalism wishes to use "global faith leaders" as a means to an end, although those "global faith leaders" may have a naive view of what they are co-operating on. As soon as such people are past their usefulness, they will be cast aside. The LDS will be cast aside quicker than the Roman Catholics or the Anglican Communion, merely on the basis of power and numbers.