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Posted: **November 25th, 2021, 11:07 pm**

Fred wrote: ↑November 25th, 2021, 8:42 pm RMN was proven to be a liar the second that the first person had a bad reaction. Each bad reaction including the thousands of deaths have reinforced the proof that RMN is a liar. Rasband was proven to be a liar the first time he called RMN a prophet. Since they both repeat this lie on a pretty much daily basis, they are considered serial liars.

Pathological liar: A liar lies incessantly to get their way and does so with little awareness.

Compulsive liar: A liar who lies out of habit.

One can decide which type of liar these people are. Since the lies are told in order to produce a profit, they should be considered evil liars.

All my church friends that see what is happening can acknowledge that all the vaxx messaging is lying. However, even though lies are being told, nobody is allowed to call any Q15 member an actual "liar", even though they acknowledge that they are speaking lies. Only one of my friends can call them "liars". Nobody else can bring themselves to do it. Because infallibility. And brainwashing. Extremely deep brainwashing. Amorphous fear takes hold when it gets too close to calling a spade a spade. Something really bad might happen, like being sent to outer-darkness and losing all your blessings because.... because you must be wrong. Nothing you perceive can trump their infallibility. Nothing.

Posted: **November 26th, 2021, 5:03 am**

Fred wrote: ↑November 25th, 2021, 8:42 pm RMN was proven to be a liar the second that the first person had a bad reaction. Each bad reaction including the thousands of deaths have reinforced the proof that RMN is a liar. Rasband was proven to be a liar the first time he called RMN a prophet. Since they both repeat this lie on a pretty much daily basis, they are considered serial liars.

Pathological liar: A liar lies incessantly to get their way and does so with little awareness.

Compulsive liar: A liar who lies out of habit.

One can decide which type of liar these people are. Since the lies are told in order to produce a profit, they should be considered evil liars.

Godsend:

Something good that happens unexpectedly and helps somebody/something when they need help (Oxford Dictionary)

A desirable or needed thing or event that comes unexpectedly (Merriam Webster)

The vaccine covers both definitions.

RMN and the other 14 are telling the truth.

Fred is misinterpreting the definition of Godsend.

Posted: **November 26th, 2021, 5:06 am**

Subcomandante wrote: ↑November 26th, 2021, 5:03 am
Fred wrote: ↑November 25th, 2021, 8:42 pm RMN was proven to be a liar the second that the first person had a bad reaction. Each bad reaction including the thousands of deaths have reinforced the proof that RMN is a liar. Rasband was proven to be a liar the first time he called RMN a prophet. Since they both repeat this lie on a pretty much daily basis, they are considered serial liars.

Pathological liar: A liar lies incessantly to get their way and does so with little awareness.

Compulsive liar: A liar who lies out of habit.

One can decide which type of liar these people are. Since the lies are told in order to produce a profit, they should be considered evil liars.
Godsend:

Something good that happens unexpectedly and helps somebody/something when they need help (Oxford Dictionary)

A desirable or needed thing or event that comes unexpectedly (Merriam Webster)

The vaccine covers both definitions.

RMN and the other 14 are telling the truth.

Fred is misinterpreting the definition of Godsend.

Nelson said that it’s a “literal godsend” and the miracle we fasted and prayed for.

Miracles come from God, not serendipity. Rasband has also reinforced the idea that Nelson believes this poison is from God.

You, sir, are becoming as much a liar as them.

Posted: **November 26th, 2021, 5:16 am**

Linguistic gymnastics are required in order to justify what the brethren are doing today.

Posted: **November 26th, 2021, 7:08 am**

Reluctant Watchman wrote: ↑November 26th, 2021, 5:16 am Linguistic gymnastics are required in order to justify what the brethren are doing today.

No gymnastics required.

The true gymnastics are those that are utilizing every excuse in the book to avoid the vaccines.

Posted: **November 26th, 2021, 7:50 am**

Subcomandante wrote: ↑November 26th, 2021, 7:08 am
Reluctant Watchman wrote: ↑November 26th, 2021, 5:16 am Linguistic gymnastics are required in order to justify what the brethren are doing today.
No gymnastics required.

The true gymnastics are those that are utilizing every excuse in the book to avoid the vaccines.

I am NOT using an excuse. The Lord told me loud and clear to NEVER get this genetic therapy jab. Loud and clear, at the first mention of the possibility of using this new sort of vaccine for covid.

Loud, clear, and unmistakably the Lord. I have learned what His voice sounds like.

Posted: **November 26th, 2021, 7:51 am**

Subcomandante wrote: ↑November 26th, 2021, 7:08 am
Reluctant Watchman wrote: ↑November 26th, 2021, 5:16 am Linguistic gymnastics are required in order to justify what the brethren are doing today.
No gymnastics required.

The true gymnastics are those that are utilizing every excuse in the book to avoid the vaccines.

The gymnastics are you trying to say that the prophet, you know, the man who speaks for God, didn’t say what he clearly said. He said it was a miracle.

Posted: **November 26th, 2021, 8:09 am**

Lizzy60 wrote: ↑November 26th, 2021, 7:51 am
Subcomandante wrote: ↑November 26th, 2021, 7:08 am
Reluctant Watchman wrote: ↑November 26th, 2021, 5:16 am Linguistic gymnastics are required in order to justify what the brethren are doing today.
No gymnastics required.

The true gymnastics are those that are utilizing every excuse in the book to avoid the vaccines.
The gymnastics are you trying to say that the prophet, you know, the man who speaks for God, didn’t say what he clearly said. He said it was a miracle.

I've had Sub blocked for awhile because most of the things he says are so asinine ... but since you quoted it Lizzy I see his statement. His last comment takes the cake. Calling these death shots a "miracle" is an indefensible position. It must require wading through gargantuan amount of cognitive dissonance to take this position.

Posted: **November 26th, 2021, 8:39 am**

Subcomandante wrote: ↑November 26th, 2021, 7:08 am
Reluctant Watchman wrote: ↑November 26th, 2021, 5:16 am Linguistic gymnastics are required in order to justify what the brethren are doing today.
No gymnastics required.

The true gymnastics are those that are utilizing every excuse in the book to avoid the vaccines.

IT'S NOT A VACCINE

when are members like YOU going to WAKE UP !

you're in this deep sleep -
it's almost like there's been this spell put on you.

WAKE UP TO A SENSE OF OUR AWFUL SITUATION !

13 O that ye would awake; awake from a deep sleep, yea,
even from the sleep of hell,
and shake off the awful chains by which ye are bound,
which are the chains which bind
the children of men, that they are carried away captive down
to the eternal gulf of misery and woe.
2 Nephi 1:13

Posted: **November 26th, 2021, 9:28 am**

Subcomandante wrote: ↑November 25th, 2021, 8:15 pm
There were no vaccines around when that was written into the scriptures, nor were there pharmaceutical drugs like we know them today.

Both are gross misreads.

You don't know what you're talking about. I am right and you are wrong.

Posted: **November 26th, 2021, 11:35 am**

Subcomandante wrote: ↑November 26th, 2021, 7:08 am
Reluctant Watchman wrote: ↑November 26th, 2021, 5:16 am Linguistic gymnastics are required in order to justify what the brethren are doing today.
No gymnastics required.

The true gymnastics are those that are utilizing every excuse in the book to avoid the vaccines.

You win gold hermano.

Posted: **November 26th, 2021, 11:50 am**

Subcomandante wrote: ↑November 26th, 2021, 7:08 am The true gymnastics are those that are utilizing every excuse in the book to avoid the vaccines.

The issue is with those who think that someone needs an excuse to begin with.

“Come take my experimental injection for a virus that you have over a 99.9% chance of surviving!”

“No thanks.”

Done.

Posted: **November 26th, 2021, 12:05 pm**

Subcomandante wrote: ↑November 26th, 2021, 5:03 am
Fred wrote: ↑November 25th, 2021, 8:42 pm RMN was proven to be a liar the second that the first person had a bad reaction. Each bad reaction including the thousands of deaths have reinforced the proof that RMN is a liar. Rasband was proven to be a liar the first time he called RMN a prophet. Since they both repeat this lie on a pretty much daily basis, they are considered serial liars.

Pathological liar: A liar lies incessantly to get their way and does so with little awareness.

Compulsive liar: A liar who lies out of habit.

One can decide which type of liar these people are. Since the lies are told in order to produce a profit, they should be considered evil liars.
Godsend:

Something good that happens unexpectedly and helps somebody/something when they need help (Oxford Dictionary)

A desirable or needed thing or event that comes unexpectedly (Merriam Webster)

The vaccine covers both definitions.

RMN and the other 14 are telling the truth.

Fred is misinterpreting the definition of Godsend.

Only an idiot thinks that killing thousands of people is a good thing. There is not any proof whatsoever that the shot has even helped a single person and anyone saying otherwise is a very large liar of satan himself magnitude. The shot does not prevent covid. The shot does not stop spreading covid. There is no proof whatsoever that the shot reduces symptoms. Anyone saying otherwise is competing with satan for title of biggest liar in the universe.

The MSM has people brainwashed. These people are incredibly stupid. Perhaps too stupid to register on the human scale. Then there are the people that do know the truth but are afraid to tell the truth out of fear of losing their job or even their life. These are evil people with evil spirits that have chosen to side with satan in order to save their skin. Both groups are complete wastes of human flesh.

Posted: **November 26th, 2021, 12:12 pm**

Gadianton Slayer wrote: ↑November 26th, 2021, 11:50 am
Subcomandante wrote: ↑November 26th, 2021, 7:08 am The true gymnastics are those that are utilizing every excuse in the book to avoid the vaccines.
The issue is with those who think that someone needs an excuse to begin with.

“Come take my experimental injection for a virus that you have over a 99.9% chance of surviving!”

“No thanks.”
Done.

This is the only argument I use with normies because it is so simple and indefensible. Debating people on anything else just getting into the weeds.

Anyone can do a ten second Google search and pull out a calculator to figure this out on their own using simple division. It is as of right now, today, a 99.94% recovery rate in Utah. This state is toward the bottom of the list mainly because the people there are more healthy and have less obesity issues. There is a strong correlation between obesity, general health, and the death rate.

There was no pandemic.

There was no dangerous virus.

There was no need for any special vaccine, shot, or gene therapy

There was no need for masks, social distancing, lockdowns, or any other behavior modification whatsoever.

Nothing extraordinary happened in 2020 outside of panic porn. Period.

"Arm of the flesh" is a metaphor for relying on man for support instead of God. Nobody is saying this literally means vaccines, but hardcore vaccine soliciting is absolutely a manner in which people rely on the arm of the flesh. Sub knows this. He's deceiving on purpose.

Posted: **November 26th, 2021, 2:15 pm**

TrueFaith wrote: ↑November 26th, 2021, 12:12 pm
Gadianton Slayer wrote: ↑November 26th, 2021, 11:50 am
Subcomandante wrote: ↑November 26th, 2021, 7:08 am The true gymnastics are those that are utilizing every excuse in the book to avoid the vaccines.
The issue is with those who think that someone needs an excuse to begin with.

“Come take my experimental injection for a virus that you have over a 99.9% chance of surviving!”

“No thanks.”
Done.
This is the only argument I use with normies because it is so simple and indefensible. Debating people on anything else just getting into the weeds.

Anyone can do a ten second Google search and pull out a calculator to figure this out on their own using simple division. It is as of right now, today, a 99.94% recovery rate in Utah. This state is toward the bottom of the list mainly because the people there are more healthy and have less obesity issues. There is a strong correlation between obesity, general health, and the death rate.

There was no pandemic.

There was no dangerous virus.

There was no need for any special vaccine, shot, or gene therapy

There was no need for masks, social distancing, lockdowns, or any other behavior modification whatsoever.
Nothing extraordinary happened in 2020 outside of panic porn. Period.

"Arm of the flesh" is a metaphor for relying on man for support instead of God. Nobody is saying this literally means vaccines, but hardcore vaccine soliciting is absolutely a manner in which people rely on the arm of the flesh. Sub knows this. He's deceiving on purpose.

"Less obesity issues" in Utah? Must be all the Gentiles.
I have some friends from Utah who went to the Netherlands. He said the three fatest people he saw there were his wife, his daughter and himself.

Posted: **November 26th, 2021, 3:08 pm**

Robin Hood wrote: ↑November 26th, 2021, 2:15 pm
TrueFaith wrote: ↑November 26th, 2021, 12:12 pm
Gadianton Slayer wrote: ↑November 26th, 2021, 11:50 am
Subcomandante wrote: ↑November 26th, 2021, 7:08 am The true gymnastics are those that are utilizing every excuse in the book to avoid the vaccines.
The issue is with those who think that someone needs an excuse to begin with.

“Come take my experimental injection for a virus that you have over a 99.9% chance of surviving!”

“No thanks.”
Done.
This is the only argument I use with normies because it is so simple and indefensible. Debating people on anything else just getting into the weeds.

Anyone can do a ten second Google search and pull out a calculator to figure this out on their own using simple division. It is as of right now, today, a 99.94% recovery rate in Utah. This state is toward the bottom of the list mainly because the people there are more healthy and have less obesity issues. There is a strong correlation between obesity, general health, and the death rate.

There was no pandemic.

There was no dangerous virus.

There was no need for any special vaccine, shot, or gene therapy

There was no need for masks, social distancing, lockdowns, or any other behavior modification whatsoever.
Nothing extraordinary happened in 2020 outside of panic porn. Period.

"Arm of the flesh" is a metaphor for relying on man for support instead of God. Nobody is saying this literally means vaccines, but hardcore vaccine soliciting is absolutely a manner in which people rely on the arm of the flesh. Sub knows this. He's deceiving on purpose.
"Less obesity issues" in Utah? Must be all the Gentiles.
I have some friends from Utah who went to the Netherlands. He said the three fatest people he saw there were his wife, his daughter and himself.

Utah ranks 50th.
https://wallethub.com/edu/fattest-states/16585

Posted: **November 26th, 2021, 3:16 pm**

TrueFaith wrote: ↑November 26th, 2021, 3:08 pm
Robin Hood wrote: ↑November 26th, 2021, 2:15 pm
TrueFaith wrote: ↑November 26th, 2021, 12:12 pm
Gadianton Slayer wrote: ↑November 26th, 2021, 11:50 am
The issue is with those who think that someone needs an excuse to begin with.

“Come take my experimental injection for a virus that you have over a 99.9% chance of surviving!”

“No thanks.”
Done.
This is the only argument I use with normies because it is so simple and indefensible. Debating people on anything else just getting into the weeds.

Anyone can do a ten second Google search and pull out a calculator to figure this out on their own using simple division. It is as of right now, today, a 99.94% recovery rate in Utah. This state is toward the bottom of the list mainly because the people there are more healthy and have less obesity issues. There is a strong correlation between obesity, general health, and the death rate.

There was no pandemic.

There was no dangerous virus.

There was no need for any special vaccine, shot, or gene therapy

There was no need for masks, social distancing, lockdowns, or any other behavior modification whatsoever.
Nothing extraordinary happened in 2020 outside of panic porn. Period.

"Arm of the flesh" is a metaphor for relying on man for support instead of God. Nobody is saying this literally means vaccines, but hardcore vaccine soliciting is absolutely a manner in which people rely on the arm of the flesh. Sub knows this. He's deceiving on purpose.
"Less obesity issues" in Utah? Must be all the Gentiles.
I have some friends from Utah who went to the Netherlands. He said the three fatest people he saw there were his wife, his daughter and himself.
Utah ranks 50th.
https://wallethub.com/edu/fattest-states/16585

Good grief... I shudder to think what the other states are like!
But we're catching up fast here in the UK.

Posted: **November 26th, 2021, 3:19 pm**

Robin Hood wrote: ↑November 26th, 2021, 3:16 pm
TrueFaith wrote: ↑November 26th, 2021, 3:08 pm
Robin Hood wrote: ↑November 26th, 2021, 2:15 pm
TrueFaith wrote: ↑November 26th, 2021, 12:12 pm

This is the only argument I use with normies because it is so simple and indefensible. Debating people on anything else just getting into the weeds.

Anyone can do a ten second Google search and pull out a calculator to figure this out on their own using simple division. It is as of right now, today, a 99.94% recovery rate in Utah. This state is toward the bottom of the list mainly because the people there are more healthy and have less obesity issues. There is a strong correlation between obesity, general health, and the death rate.

There was no pandemic.

There was no dangerous virus.

There was no need for any special vaccine, shot, or gene therapy

There was no need for masks, social distancing, lockdowns, or any other behavior modification whatsoever.
Nothing extraordinary happened in 2020 outside of panic porn. Period.

"Arm of the flesh" is a metaphor for relying on man for support instead of God. Nobody is saying this literally means vaccines, but hardcore vaccine soliciting is absolutely a manner in which people rely on the arm of the flesh. Sub knows this. He's deceiving on purpose.
"Less obesity issues" in Utah? Must be all the Gentiles.
I have some friends from Utah who went to the Netherlands. He said the three fatest people he saw there were his wife, his daughter and himself.
Utah ranks 50th.
https://wallethub.com/edu/fattest-states/16585
Good grief... I shudder to think what the other states are like!
But we're catching up fast here in the UK.

Demographics play a big part in it. The more diversity you enrich yourself with the more problems you will have. Until recently Europe was almost monolithically Caucasian.
https://www.cdc.gov/pcd/issues/2019/18_0579.htm

Posted: **November 26th, 2021, 6:27 pm**

Robin Hood wrote: ↑November 26th, 2021, 3:16 pm Good grief... I shudder to think what the other states are like!
But we're catching up fast here in the UK.

It's bad, yes. In fact, the obesity epidemic here in the US has accelerated. If Utah is the leanest state in the US today, they're still fatter than the fattest state was 20 years ago: https://blog.timesunion.com/healthcare/ ... oday/2505/

And, just like covid, there's a simple, cheap, easy answer, but it's being rejected by the drug-pushing medical dictatorship in favor of more and more drugs and methods that are proven failures.

Posted: **November 27th, 2021, 6:18 pm**

When I was 20 or so I had a friend that only dated fat women. He sent them to the doctor to get preludins. The girls gave him the drug which he shot up. Course the girls never did lose weight. But he made them feel good so it was a win win.

Posted: **November 27th, 2021, 7:51 pm**

h_p wrote: ↑November 26th, 2021, 6:27 pm
Robin Hood wrote: ↑November 26th, 2021, 3:16 pm Good grief... I shudder to think what the other states are like!
But we're catching up fast here in the UK.
It's bad, yes. In fact, the obesity epidemic here in the US has accelerated. If Utah is the leanest state in the US today, they're still fatter than the fattest state was 20 years ago: https://blog.timesunion.com/healthcare/ ... oday/2505/

And, just like covid, there's a simple, cheap, easy answer, but it's being rejected by the drug-pushing medical dictatorship in favor of more and more drugs and methods that are proven failures.

Mexico likewise has the same problems especially in children.

Importation of lots of food from the USA will do that (albeit, the Mexican food that is sold in the USA frequently has more sugar than their Mexican variants).

Posted: **November 27th, 2021, 8:13 pm**

Such kind people out there.

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Posted: **November 27th, 2021, 9:22 pm**

Gadianton Slayer wrote: ↑November 27th, 2021, 8:13 pm Such kind people out there.

29CDC048-FC32-43AD-B3B4-570CF7A07D91.jpeg

They won't see that look on my face, if my kids get the jab it's because their dad died trying to save them from getting it.

Posted: **November 27th, 2021, 9:30 pm**

Gadianton Slayer wrote: ↑November 27th, 2021, 8:13 pm Such kind people out there.

29CDC048-FC32-43AD-B3B4-570CF7A07D91.jpeg

I have listened to several interviews about the health consequences of the vaxxeens, and one is irrational anger. It’s more difficult to diagnose, but if someone you know seems to be angrier, or even just less compassionate, it could be spike proteins infecting their brain.

Cue the zombie apocalypse.

Posted: **November 27th, 2021, 10:07 pm**

Gadianton Slayer wrote: ↑November 27th, 2021, 8:13 pm Such kind people out there.

"powerless in the face of satan"

"Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written,
Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God,
and him only shalt thou serve.”

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