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Alexander wrote: ↑November 20th, 2021, 5:58 pm Thought you might enjoy an original meme:

LOL!

Snap. Now we have to do the Maria Magdalenas all over again!

I like how the youth can be vaxxed over and over, as they do their vicarious work for the dead. No doubt, it will bring them very close to the veil.

Chip wrote: ↑November 20th, 2021, 10:45 pm I like how the youth can be vaxxed over and over, as they do their vicarious work for the dead. No doubt, it will bring them very close to the veil.

If you don’t get the joke, the power to "gather on both sides of the veil" is incumbent upon you obeying the globocratic Pharacracy. The church and the Covid-religion are cemented into one.

I inject you in the name of Bill Gates, whose eyes are dead.

If you don’t get the joke, the power to "gather on both sides of the veil" is incumbent upon you obeying the globocratic Pharacracy.

Well, of course, if the shot has carried you away prematurely to the other side of the veil, how will you be able to do the work for your ancestors when no one is left in mortality?

Besides...ALL of my mother's family history work - which required THREE proofs of accuracy for each ancestor in order to have Temple Work approved and done - has been 'tinkered with' in Family Search by any and everyone who thought to make changes without documentation or even proven relationship. My maternal grandmother has been 'removed' from her husband and 10 children because her step-father had the same surname as the man grandma married.

None of my mother's hard copy hand-written records with documentation squares with what is now in Family Search.

I asked one of the Temple Presidency about the confusion, and was told, "It will all be straightened out during the Millennium." If we are all dead and gone - who will be left in mortality to straighten it out?

I often wonder if the shots aren't rendering people mentally deficient - even if they do survive other reactions that could 'carry them away'.

buffalo_girl wrote: ↑November 21st, 2021, 1:34 pm

If you don’t get the joke, the power to "gather on both sides of the veil" is incumbent upon you obeying the globocratic Pharacracy.

Well, of course, if the shot has carried you away prematurely to the other side of the veil, how will you be able to do the work for your ancestors when no one is left in mortality?

Besides...ALL of my mother's family history work - which required THREE proofs of accuracy for each ancestor in order to have Temple Work approved and done - has been 'tinkered with' in Family Search by any and everyone who thought to make changes without documentation or even proven relationship. My maternal grandmother has been 'removed' from her husband and 10 children because her step-father had the same surname as the man grandma married.

None of my mother's hard copy hand-written records with documentation squares with what is now in Family Search.

I asked one of the Temple Presidency about the confusion, and was told, "It will all be straightened out during the Millennium." If we are all dead and gone - who will be left in mortality to straighten it out?

I often wonder if the shots aren't rendering people mentally deficient - even if they do survive other reactions that could 'carry them away'.

I feel your pain, but that trouble was going on long before 2020.

I feel your pain, but that trouble was going on long before 2020.

You mean mental deficiency or sloppy record keeping - or both?

We live rather remotely. It takes nearly 2 hours to get to church and to the temple. With everything shut down or was barely functioning for the past year-&-a-half, and with the general church population being mRNA-shot compliant, I was surprised when we returned to greater activity to see a few 'key' members in our area having developed dramatic changes in both physical vigor and cognitive function. People seem crippled!

Granted, most Temple Presidencies are of retirement age, and Workers often fall into a similar age group. A former member of the Temple Presidency well into his 80's - until receiving the god send - was a strong, clear minded, active man. My husband & I visit him as a friend. Until he had the second shot, we didn't worry about his ability to live alone. Since...he has experienced a full-body outbreak of what appears to me to be either shingles or rosacea - both on the autoimmune spectrum. The doctors can't find anything, of course. He will be seeing an oncologist in December although he has never had cancer. Meanwhile, he is losing too much weight and is constantly tormented with pain about which he has no relief. He has become increasingly fretful and anxious. One example of those who were obedient to the 'urge' to comply.

How is this helping gather Israel, I wonder....

Maybe... more people are actually needed on the other side of the veil right now, especially older ones, and God withholds the truth about the vaccines from the Church leaders for His purposes, making eyes blind. We experienced that with a family member and cancer--we were blinded to it, even though in retrospect we all felt stupid and guilty until I realized how it had blessed us all to be blind.

Maybe they just figured they'd preserve the church's assets and look the other way on the members' health. Standard Operating Procedure for large corporations.

buffalo_girl wrote: ↑November 21st, 2021, 4:37 pm

I feel your pain, but that trouble was going on long before 2020.

You mean mental deficiency or sloppy record keeping - or both?

Both. I'm afraid to say that a lot of it is Americans, because they don't know European geography. A lot of people here used to stay fairly well put for decades, if not longer. There were people who travelled further distances, but most people used to marry others from a short distance away, unless they were upper class.

I have had trouble because one of my ancestors shared his name with someone else in the same town. The only trouble is that he went to Australia and my ancestor didn't. (I wouldn't be here.)

In another case, someone keeps merging two surnames, one with an S on the end and the other without. I complained to one of the people doing this, saying that I knew that part of the family, and one of them had even left me some money (which was enough to buy a car with)... and got back a rant from the other person. That was years back. That part of my family line is well documented, unlike some others.

To be fair, lockdown created a lot of bored people staying at home so I imagine that's when a lot of them went on FamilySearch, i.e. the type who wouldn't usually do it.

"Beginning January 2022, in the effort to be good global citizens, leaders in selected stakes will issue temple recommends using Radio-frequency identification chips (RFID).

Using an RFID chip is the most secure method for issuing temple recommends, as well as the easiest way form members to fight against Covid-19 (touch-free) when attending the temple. Where possible, members should obtain their chip implant. Church leaders expect that by March 5, 2022, all Church units will be using RFID.

Chips will also allow members to have access to their FamilySearch account, online tithing payments, and access to Temple Square."

funny. . .I appreciate the excuses for names being mixed up in genealogy, BUT I think people are lazy and ignorant. . . sorry

I did the temple work for my husbands' family, immediate family and extended in the 80s and 90s. At that time the COJCLDS had NO access to catholic church records and I don't know if they have access now. Anyway, I got the family records not from family bibles, not from, census, no I got them from the catholic church itself out of Detroit Michigan. A genealogist who decided to write the history of several families that had left France to settle in Canada only to move down the Great Lakes into Michigan had been contracted by the catholic church to write a book for the records.

The catholic fathers had also followed this group of families from France. The catholic father was allowed to write the records in French or Latin. This genealogist was a translater of French and Latin. She translated the families for me put them into family group sheets and charged me $.25 for a full family sheet. She sent me the whole story of these families moving through Canada and down into USA, including towns and cities that they lived in and parishes formed. Catholics are very good at keeping records even those records of stillborn and miscarried.

In the 70s and 80s we knew of no one of these families that had ever joined the COJCLDS including my husband.

So, 5 years ago, I pull up the records that I had made and done the work for. Not only had members attached names that were not correct and the names didn't even show up on the census that was provided for proof, BUT some of those fraudulent family members had been attached by those people set apart ion the church to pull names. What do they call their job??? dang, I can't remember the word.

Anyway, I think some of this lack of respect for this work even by people set apart is truly out of control.

I have a testimony of how God guides this work. I had done hundreds of sealings, baptisms, etc for these family members. So when my ornery husband decided to join the church, then he was first mad that he couldn't do any of the work except baptism for a year. Then, he tells me it belongs to him and he us going to do the paperwork for all the rest of the research that I had received recently. ok, I said. He asked me to explain and I did. He did the temple paperwork for one grandfather that had two wives with children from both. (oh, the word is extractions).
He sent in the names in october and because they were attached to previous families that had been recorded it should have taken 3 weeks to be cleared. October - nothing november- nothing december nothing

at the end of December he became disappointed and I offered to send the paperwork in and make sure it was all right. Anyway, I sent the ordinance request on December 27. On January 6, I recieved all of the requests back and all cleared. hmmmm On January 8, we received all of the work my ex had done and nothing was cleared with no explanation. However, some of the children had been attached to the wrong mother. But the biggest disappointment was that he had requested that I could not do any of the ordinances. Can you imagine sending a request like that when, for years, my name had been attached to all of the other requests?

Well, I looked at him and couldn't stop my tongue. I told him that this God's work and it has his hand on it. He doesn't allow his work to be done when there is contention.

I really believe that this is the Lord's work. I also believe that it has been corrupted like everything else. That's a poor excuse for lowering the standards of this work----it'll be figured out in the millenium. . .shame on him. . .shame on those who are called to extract honestly. . . do they think they are doing the Lord's work. . .I gave up trying to fix it and I will just present to the Lord my ordinances that I know were done honestly

afterthought: I have often thought that this careless attitude is a reflection of the trampling of Temple courts that Isaiah speaks about.

laughed real hard at the sarcasm here. thanks for taking the edge off and the pride in this event

buffalo_girl wrote: ↑November 21st, 2021, 1:34 pm Besides...ALL of my mother's family history work - which required THREE proofs of accuracy for each ancestor in order to have Temple Work approved and done - has been 'tinkered with' in Family Search by any and everyone who thought to make changes without documentation or even proven relationship. My maternal grandmother has been 'removed' from her husband and 10 children because her step-father had the same surname as the man grandma married.

None of my mother's hard copy hand-written records with documentation squares with what is now in Family Search.

I asked one of the Temple Presidency about the confusion, and was told, "It will all be straightened out during the Millennium." If we are all dead and gone - who will be left in mortality to straighten it out?

Some years ago, I was looking at my family line on Family Search. My mom had two children, a boy and a girl, who died before the rest of us were born. My parents were sealed in the St. George temple before these kids were born. In my line, someone had added two boys, with the names of my brother and sister (only they spelled my sister's name as if she were male), and had them sealed to my parents in a temple in Colorado.

I sent a message from within my account to complain. I pointed out that anyone who knew my parents, would have know that the children were a boy and a girl and that they were BIC. Iirc, they changed my sister back into a girl and that was the extent of it, so it looked like I had twin older sisters with the same name and they, along with my brother, died at a young age on the same day. (Dying at a young age on the same day is real. This extra child and the sealing is . . . )

Genealogy is such a flippin' mess that I don't trust any of my family line being true unless it was researched by one of my brothers.

Alexander wrote: ↑November 25th, 2021, 11:32 am "Beginning January 2022, in the effort to be good global citizens, leaders in selected stakes will issue temple recommends using Radio-frequency identification chips (RFID).

Using an RFID chip is the most secure method for issuing temple recommends, as well as the easiest way form members to fight against Covid-19 (touch-free) when attending the temple. Where possible, members should obtain their chip implant. Church leaders expect that by March 5, 2022, all Church units will be using RFID.

Chips will also allow members to have access to their FamilySearch account, online tithing payments, and access to Temple Square."

Is this real or a parody?

Alexander wrote: ↑November 25th, 2021, 2:38 pm

Alexander wrote: ↑November 25th, 2021, 11:32 am "Beginning January 2022, in the effort to be good global citizens, leaders in selected stakes will issue temple recommends using Radio-frequency identification chips (RFID).

Using an RFID chip is the most secure method for issuing temple recommends, as well as the easiest way form members to fight against Covid-19 (touch-free) when attending the temple. Where possible, members should obtain their chip implant. Church leaders expect that by March 5, 2022, all Church units will be using RFID.

Chips will also allow members to have access to their FamilySearch account, online tithing payments, and access to Temple Square."

Silver Pie wrote: ↑November 25th, 2021, 2:41 pm Is this real or a parody?

Alexander wrote: ↑November 25th, 2021, 2:38 pm

Alexander wrote: ↑November 25th, 2021, 11:32 am "Beginning January 2022, in the effort to be good global citizens, leaders in selected stakes will issue temple recommends using Radio-frequency identification chips (RFID).

Using an RFID chip is the most secure method for issuing temple recommends, as well as the easiest way form members to fight against Covid-19 (touch-free) when attending the temple. Where possible, members should obtain their chip implant. Church leaders expect that by March 5, 2022, all Church units will be using RFID.

Chips will also allow members to have access to their FamilySearch account, online tithing payments, and access to Temple Square."

Parody. I edited a church article.

Alexander wrote: ↑November 25th, 2021, 2:44 pmParody

It's really sad when things get so bad, it's difficult to discern parody from reality.

Silver Pie wrote: ↑November 25th, 2021, 2:46 pm

Alexander wrote: ↑November 25th, 2021, 2:44 pmParody

It's really sad when things get so bad, it's difficult to discern parody from reality.

You know I could put some of this parody on a preparedness group I'm on and people would start rationalising it. We were having good discussions on there until SLC started insisting on injections and it's kind of died since then.