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larsenb wrote: ↑November 19th, 2021, 2:15 pm

Fred wrote: ↑November 19th, 2021, 1:27 pm I don't want to be insensitive at this time, but I wonder if she considered Ivermectin over the hospital? There is not a chance in hell that I would allow anyone that I cared about to go to the hospital to be killed, either by neglect or on purpose. Any doctor or institution that thinks the jab is better than Ivermectin is not fit to make medical decisions for anyone.

Or any of the rest of the sequenced multidrug options strongly suggested by Dr. McCullough and many, many others. McCullough emphasizes that ivermectin isn't the be-all-end-all, though highly important and stupid to neglect.

Condolences to your family OI. A sad event however you slice it.

NeveR wrote: ↑November 19th, 2021, 2:35 pm

Original_Intent wrote: ↑November 19th, 2021, 1:07 pm Tami was a mid 40s single mom of two. I don't think she got the jab, and this is neither pro or con the jab. Personallly I am anti-jab, and VERY anti mandate.

She was hospitalized yesterday morning with them saying they felt she would be fine. By noon they were saying she had a 50/50 chance and early this morning she passed.

I'm not speaking from direct knowledge but second-hand accounts, but it seemed once they found out she had not been vaccinated they really took an unprofessional approach. As in, they asked her 22 year old son if she went into cardiac arrest if they should administer CPR, and "we doubt it would do any good, anyway." She did not have a DNR and I think in that situation CPR would be a no-brainer, and certainly not a decision you would put on a 22 year old son. He did tell them to of course do anything they could to keep her alive.

Anyways, rough, rough situation for her young sons. Tough on the rest of the family but their lives are upended.

This is a tragedy. I'm so sorry for your family. But it's very important you realize she did not 'die of COVID'. And probably also important to get details of what she actually was suffering with.

Remember - 'COVID' is a lie and the only tests for it available are a scam to promote the lie.

The 'test' is just a way of converting other, standard, illnesses into 'COVID' so that the stats remain high and the hospital gets paid (they get money for every 'COVID' diagnosis).

It's also a fast track into DNRs and iatrogenic death.

So, like millions of others, your poor sister became sick with something (maybe a virus, maybe something else)and then was unlucky enough to text 'positive' and so kick off the 'COVID' protocols which may have helped to end her life.

The best service anyone can do her is to try to find out everything about what happened after she was admitted.

Don't accept that 'COVID' diagnosis. It's a lie, an excuse and an insult to her, your family and all of humanity.

NeveR wrote: ↑November 19th, 2021, 2:35 pm

Original_Intent wrote: ↑November 19th, 2021, 1:07 pm Tami was a mid 40s single mom of two. I don't think she got the jab, and this is neither pro or con the jab. Personallly I am anti-jab, and VERY anti mandate.

She was hospitalized yesterday morning with them saying they felt she would be fine. By noon they were saying she had a 50/50 chance and early this morning she passed.

I'm not speaking from direct knowledge but second-hand accounts, but it seemed once they found out she had not been vaccinated they really took an unprofessional approach. As in, they asked her 22 year old son if she went into cardiac arrest if they should administer CPR, and "we doubt it would do any good, anyway." She did not have a DNR and I think in that situation CPR would be a no-brainer, and certainly not a decision you would put on a 22 year old son. He did tell them to of course do anything they could to keep her alive.

Anyways, rough, rough situation for her young sons. Tough on the rest of the family but their lives are upended.

This is a tragedy. ... The best service anyone can do her is to try to find out everything about what happened after she was admitted.

larsenb wrote: ↑November 19th, 2021, 2:15 pm

Fred wrote: ↑November 19th, 2021, 1:27 pm I don't want to be insensitive at this time, but I wonder if she considered Ivermectin over the hospital? There is not a chance in hell that I would allow anyone that I cared about to go to the hospital to be killed, either by neglect or on purpose. Any doctor or institution that thinks the jab is better than Ivermectin is not fit to make medical decisions for anyone.

Or any of the rest of the sequenced multidrug options strongly suggested by Dr. McCullough and many, many others. McCullough emphasizes that ivermectin isn't the be-all-end-all, though highly important and stupid to neglect.

Condolences to your family OI. A sad event however you slice it.

BroJones wrote: ↑November 19th, 2021, 11:25 pm

larsenb wrote: ↑November 19th, 2021, 2:15 pm

Fred wrote: ↑November 19th, 2021, 1:27 pm I don't want to be insensitive at this time, but I wonder if she considered Ivermectin over the hospital? There is not a chance in hell that I would allow anyone that I cared about to go to the hospital to be killed, either by neglect or on purpose. Any doctor or institution that thinks the jab is better than Ivermectin is not fit to make medical decisions for anyone.

Or any of the rest of the sequenced multidrug options strongly suggested by Dr. McCullough and many, many others. McCullough emphasizes that ivermectin isn't the be-all-end-all, though highly important and stupid to neglect.

Condolences to your family OI. A sad event however you slice it.

Condolences.
Does Dr McCullough
Include monoclonal antibodies?

Jason wrote: ↑November 19th, 2021, 5:27 pm
...its also important to note that most people have similar symptoms

and associate that with "Covid"...

so its not a lie in that there is a very nasty bug going around that causes loss of taste and smell

and many have a difficult run with it leaving a lasting impression

...or in some cases hospitalization and death (blood clots, etc).

...so when someone runs around saying its a lie and a fantasy...don't get much buy in...and the medical folks who deal with it on a daily basis and know it as covid....and their circle of influence...then paint that person as a nutjob...which doesn't help the polarization and freedom/liberty movement...

BroJones wrote: ↑November 20th, 2021, 12:02 am
But I will say that is that monoclonal antibodies worked well for me. 24 hours later and my strength was back my sleepiness was essentially gone. Temp down. Taste back a little..

I also agree with Jason that you can call it what you want, But it is a real bug.

NeveR wrote: ↑November 20th, 2021, 2:45 am

BroJones wrote: ↑November 20th, 2021, 12:02 am
But I will say that is that monoclonal antibodies worked well for me. 24 hours later and my strength was back my sleepiness was essentially gone. Temp down. Taste back a little..

How many colds have you had in your lifetime, Dr Jones? You're too intelligent not to recognize what you just described is the normal acute phase of a normal winter cold. The only reason you think it's something else is because you took a fraudulent lateral flow or antibody - and it came back positive. It persuades you to look at normal cold symptoms as if they are something different. Which is exactly what the test is designed to do - convert ordinary colds/flu into 'COVID'.

I also agree with Jason that you can call it what you want, But it is a real bug.

Sure, it's a real cold, or real flu (or sometimes a real gunshot wound). But what we call it matters supremely - because 'COVID' is the entire basis of the whole Great Reset which is designed to enslave us and our kids. So when we go along with it and call our cold/flu/ whatever 'covid' we are helping to legitimize the root of the scam.

If everyone refused to go along with that the whole psyop would be over in no time.

Buying the reality of the virus while opposing everything done in its name is like opposing the War on Terror while buying the official story of 9/11 - it renders your opposition largely ineffective.

Very glad you are feeling better btw - and agree with you about staying out of hospital. Those places are killing grounds for anyone with a positive test.

BroJones wrote: ↑November 20th, 2021, 7:25 am Hallelujah! There are effective treatments available! Without the jab
So What should I call it neveR? I now Have natural immunity against... What?

BroJones wrote: ↑November 20th, 2021, 7:25 am Hallelujah! There are effective treatments available! Without the jab
So What should I call it neveR? I now Have natural immunity against... What?

Jason wrote: ↑November 19th, 2021, 5:23 pm

larsenb wrote: ↑November 19th, 2021, 2:15 pm

Fred wrote: ↑November 19th, 2021, 1:27 pm I don't want to be insensitive at this time, but I wonder if she considered Ivermectin over the hospital? There is not a chance in hell that I would allow anyone that I cared about to go to the hospital to be killed, either by neglect or on purpose. Any doctor or institution that thinks the jab is better than Ivermectin is not fit to make medical decisions for anyone.

Or any of the rest of the sequenced multidrug options strongly suggested by Dr. McCullough and many, many others. McCullough emphasizes that ivermectin isn't the be-all-end-all, though highly important and stupid to neglect.

Condolences to your family OI. A sad event however you slice it.

The other aspect is timing...works best as "early" intervention...not the day or two before you end up in the hospital (my brother's situation)...

...and it's very easy to armchair quarterback...particularly in hindsight...

NeveR wrote: ↑November 20th, 2021, 2:28 am

Jason wrote: ↑November 19th, 2021, 5:27 pm
...its also important to note that most people have similar symptoms

Yes, most people have 'similar symptoms' - OF A COLD OR FLU!!

and associate that with "Covid"...

Yes, people associate their normal cold or flu symptoms with 'COVID' because of the massive psyop telling them to do that

so its not a lie in that there is a very nasty bug going around that causes loss of taste and smell

Yes, very nasty standard cold and flu bugs, which routinely wipe out the sense of taste or smell for a while. Just notice how easily people have been persuaded that a common symptom is new and strange!

and many have a difficult run with it leaving a lasting impression

Yes - LIKE WITH A BAD FLU

...or in some cases hospitalization and death (blood clots, etc).

Yes, as any physician will tell you coagulopathy is a potential side effect of ANY viral infection that gets out of control. It just doesn't normally get hyped by the media.

...so when someone runs around saying its a lie and a fantasy...don't get much buy in...and the medical folks who deal with it on a daily basis and know it as covid....and their circle of influence...then paint that person as a nutjob...which doesn't help the polarization and freedom/liberty movement...

Wow, correct me if I'm wrong but are you resorting to ridicule and arguments from authority?

The DATA about the lack of isolation, the fraudulent nature of the tests etc is freely available on numerous websites.

Are you claiming this is not true? Or that a virus, never isolated, undetectable through testing, which makes no impact on all cause mortality, and with symptoms IDENTICAL to a hundred other known pathogens is somehow proven to exist just because the PTB gave it a name?

I think people whose tragic deaths are being used to push this scam and enslave humanity deserve more than that. We need the guts to face the whole truth here and not make queasy meaningless compromises with the official lie.

BroJones wrote: ↑November 19th, 2021, 11:25 pm

larsenb wrote: ↑November 19th, 2021, 2:15 pm

Fred wrote: ↑November 19th, 2021, 1:27 pm I don't want to be insensitive at this time, but I wonder if she considered Ivermectin over the hospital? There is not a chance in hell that I would allow anyone that I cared about to go to the hospital to be killed, either by neglect or on purpose. Any doctor or institution that thinks the jab is better than Ivermectin is not fit to make medical decisions for anyone.

Or any of the rest of the sequenced multidrug options strongly suggested by Dr. McCullough and many, many others. McCullough emphasizes that ivermectin isn't the be-all-end-all, though highly important and stupid to neglect.

Condolences to your family OI. A sad event however you slice it.

Condolences.
Does Dr McCullough
Include monoclonal antibodies?

And to make matters worse, he (Trump) got Covid himself. And he actually got first-class treatment. The one doctor I liked was that kind of cocky doctor that Trump had. Remember that guy? He was a DO, got out there, handsome guy. He goes, ‘We’re going to give him some monoclonal antibodies. We’re going to sequence the other drugs, and we’re just going to get through it just fine.’ I said, ‘That’s the type of doctor America needs.’

So I’ll give you an example, a patient of mine got really sick with Covid-19. This Delta has been tough to treat. Anybody who’s tried to treat it, believe me, I underestimated it – it’s tough to treat, he got really sick, we got to the point where he needed a monoclonal antibody infusion.

. . . . .we had lots of data on ivermectin. We had monoclonal antibodies come, and I tried to just do an update myself [on his treatment protocols]

I’m telling you, don’t lay all your cards on the hydroxychloroquine/ivermectin. They’re fine drugs. But the monoclonal antibodies are wonderful; we use them. The regeneron antibodies. They do reduce ospitalization and death, high risk people over 65.

Early therapy, sequenced multi-drug approach is the way to go. Use these monoclonal antibodies until they take them away, and then you can even use hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin until they take it away and then still use the other drugs and you’ll still win.