Austria: Get vaxxed or get fined

[Subcomandante]

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus- ... 8dc656e989

Looks like Austria has just declared war on the unvaccinated.

I know it's the AP, but it was linked to Drudge.

[Niemand]

I posted here on who, or what, Schallenberg's predecessor Sebastian Kurz might be.

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[Niemand]

It's not all doom and gloom in Austria. 35 - yes, THIRTY FIVE percent of the population is not fully injected. That's a huge chunk.

The labour union for the armed forces has come out against it.

Original article is in French
https://infodujour.fr/politique/54068-l ... -sanitaire

Machine translation:

Austria rises against "health dictatorship"
November 16, 2021- 15:33 by Emilien Lacombe
The police and the army refuse to control the health pass in the name of "freedom and human dignity". They will join a large demonstration against compulsory confinement on November 20, 2021 in Vienna.

Only a few days after Austrian Chancellor Alexander Schallenberg decided to confine unvaccinated people, politicians and unions, call for a vast uprising against this freedom-killing measure, unique in the world.

The leader of the Freedom Party (FPÖ) Herbert Kickl, called for a " mega-demonstration" on November 20 in Vienna.

Shortly thereafter, Austrian Armed Forces Union (FGÖ) President Manfred Haidinger followed suit and joined in in a letter published on 14 November. He intends to "defend fundamental rights and freedoms". The FGÖ specifies that "everyone" is authorized to demonstrate, even in the event of confinement!

The obligation of control imposed by the Minister of the Interior, Karl Nehammer has already been rejected by the police union. In addition, the Union of Austrian Armed Forces announces that they will participate in this great gathering in Vienna.

The panicked government
It is a resounding slap in the face for the government which, according to Austrian media, is showing more and more panic.

The chairman of the Social Democratic Trade Unions (FSG) and the Police Union, Hermann Greylinger, left no doubt in an interview that the police feel unable to carry out these checks according to the weekly Wochenblick.
Manfred Haidinger (FGÖ) adds in his letter: “We hereby point out that participation in assemblies is a particularly protected legal right and that it is also taken into account in the draft ordinance currently available. Participation and travel throughout Austria is permitted. »

Although unvaccinated people are advised to travel by private transport.

The letter finally recalls that "the ban on a meeting planned by citizens as well as the ban on a gathering of political parties have been recognized as illegal" by the Vienna Administrative Court.

[TrueFaith]

I've heard that Austria is very split politically. It's sort of the gateway between Eastern and Western Europe and many align with the more Conservative easterners. So the high number of un-jabbed makes sense.

I shake my head when people equate what is going on now in Germany/Austria to the Nazis. People seem to forget who took over these two countries after World War 2 ended. It's like Americans have a blank space in their brains between 1945 and 1990 for some reason. Klaus Schwab, for example, didn't grow up under Nazi influence, he grew up under Communist influence.

[Godislove]

Looks like they are locking down the vaccinated as well....

From the article.

"Government officials had long promised that vaccinated people would no longer face lockdown restrictions: Over the summer, then-Chancellor Sebastian Kurz declared the pandemic “over” for those who had received the vaccine. But as virus cases continued to skyrocket, the government said it had no choice but to extend it to everyone.

“This is very painful,” Schallenberg said."

[Robin Hood]

The Germans/Austrians always return to type.

[Niemand]

Klaus Schwab, for example, didn't grow up under Nazi influence, he grew up under Communist influence.

He was born in Gernany in '38, before the war even started, so yes he did spend his very earliest years in the Third Reich. His father's business was considered to be a model company by the National Socialists, although Klaus has ensured the original documentation has been mislaid.

[TrueFaith]

Klaus Schwab, for example, didn't grow up under Nazi influence, he grew up under Communist influence.

He was born in Gernany in '38, before the war even started, so yes he did spend his very earliest years in the Third Reich. His father's business was considered to be a model company by the National Socialists, although Klaus has ensured the original documentation has been mislaid.

I very much doubt he learned what he did before he was 7 years old. And parents and children are often very different ideologically from each other. I wouldn't consider that as an indicator for anything.

[Niemand]

Klaus Schwab, for example, didn't grow up under Nazi influence, he grew up under Communist influence.

He was born in Gernany in '38, before the war even started, so yes he did spend his very earliest years in the Third Reich. His father's business was considered to be a model company by the National Socialists, although Klaus has ensured the original documentation has been mislaid.

I very much doubt he learned what he did before he was 7 years old. And parents and children are often very different ideologically from each other. I wouldn't consider that as an indicator for anything.

His earliest memories would have been of Hitler's Germany, and his father was certainly fully involved in it, to the point of being commended. He probably greased the palm of some party official - like father like son.

[TrueFaith]

Klaus Schwab, for example, didn't grow up under Nazi influence, he grew up under Communist influence.

He was born in Gernany in '38, before the war even started, so yes he did spend his very earliest years in the Third Reich. His father's business was considered to be a model company by the National Socialists, although Klaus has ensured the original documentation has been mislaid.

I very much doubt he learned what he did before he was 7 years old. And parents and children are often very different ideologically from each other. I wouldn't consider that as an indicator for anything.

His earliest memories would have been of Hitler's Germany, and his father was certainly fully involved in it, to the point of being commended. He probably greased the palm of some party official - like father like son.

I could just as easily see how he saw Nazism as a total failure since he was a child during the worst time and its collapse, so perhaps he was prodigal son and rejected his father's ideology, turning to Communism as the answer instead. I know more men who rebel against their dad's way, than not. From my own experience, me, my father, and my dad's father all very different ideologically. "He must be a bishop's son" is a popular slogan because it means they're rebellious of their father.

Who can say. The argument of judging people on the sins of their fathers isn't always reliable IMO.

[Niemand]

He was born in Gernany in '38, before the war even started, so yes he did spend his very earliest years in the Third Reich. His father's business was considered to be a model company by the National Socialists, although Klaus has ensured the original documentation has been mislaid.

I very much doubt he learned what he did before he was 7 years old. And parents and children are often very different ideologically from each other. I wouldn't consider that as an indicator for anything.

His earliest memories would have been of Hitler's Germany, and his father was certainly fully involved in it, to the point of being commended. He probably greased the palm of some party official - like father like son.

I could just as easily see how he saw Nazism as a total failure since he was a child during the worst time and its collapse, so perhaps he was prodigal son and rejected his father's ideology, turning to Communism as the answer instead. I know more men who rebel against their dad's way, than not. From my own experience, me, my father, and my dad's father all very different ideologically. "He must be a bishop's son" is a popular slogan because it means they're rebellious of their father.

Who can say. The argument of judging people on the sins of their fathers isn't always reliable IMO.

In this case I'm thinking of cynical business dealings. Schwab Snr. probably bribed an NSDAP official so his company could get that award and gain prominence, much like Schwab Jnr. both bribes politicians and is bribed by corporations. So yes, I think there is a similarity.

Ideologically, both favour the death of multiparty democracy and its replacement with a merger of corporate and state, while the big and obvious difference is that Schwab Jnr. loves pretend diversity and globalism. Schwab Jnr. doesn't favour Aryan supermen, but he does want humanity to be transcended by merging with machines.

[TrueFaith]

I very much doubt he learned what he did before he was 7 years old. And parents and children are often very different ideologically from each other. I wouldn't consider that as an indicator for anything.

His earliest memories would have been of Hitler's Germany, and his father was certainly fully involved in it, to the point of being commended. He probably greased the palm of some party official - like father like son.

I could just as easily see how he saw Nazism as a total failure since he was a child during the worst time and its collapse, so perhaps he was prodigal son and rejected his father's ideology, turning to Communism as the answer instead. I know more men who rebel against their dad's way, than not. From my own experience, me, my father, and my dad's father all very different ideologically. "He must be a bishop's son" is a popular slogan because it means they're rebellious of their father.

Who can say. The argument of judging people on the sins of their fathers isn't always reliable IMO.

In this case I'm thinking of cynical business dealings. Schwab Snr. probably bribed an NSDAP official so his company could get that award and gain prominence, much like Schwab Jnr. both bribes politicians and is bribed by corporations. So yes, I think there is a similarity.

Ideologically, both favour the death of multiparty democracy and its replacement with a merger of corporate and state, while the big and obvious difference is that Schwab Jnr. loves pretend diversity and globalism. Schwab Jnr. doesn't favour Aryan supermen, but he does want humanity to be transcended by merging with machines.

Yeah, the major difference between Communism and German National Socialism is wide-open world government globalism vs closed-border, tight community Nationalism. So on this Schwab couldn't be further from Nazism.

But yes, both ideologies require a very close-knit relationship between government and private business, which is obviously a recipe for corruption. Still, Germany was extremely successful economically with their system vs the Communist system. But that's another topic.

But calling him a Nazi to me is just ridiculous. The globalist left wouldn't tolerate someone like this running the planet for one second. Open borders, big bank currency systems, sexual liberation, and multicultural/multiracialism is paramount to the leftist system - stuff Hitler abhorred.

[Subcomandante]

His earliest memories would have been of Hitler's Germany, and his father was certainly fully involved in it, to the point of being commended. He probably greased the palm of some party official - like father like son.

I could just as easily see how he saw Nazism as a total failure since he was a child during the worst time and its collapse, so perhaps he was prodigal son and rejected his father's ideology, turning to Communism as the answer instead. I know more men who rebel against their dad's way, than not. From my own experience, me, my father, and my dad's father all very different ideologically. "He must be a bishop's son" is a popular slogan because it means they're rebellious of their father.

Who can say. The argument of judging people on the sins of their fathers isn't always reliable IMO.

In this case I'm thinking of cynical business dealings. Schwab Snr. probably bribed an NSDAP official so his company could get that award and gain prominence, much like Schwab Jnr. both bribes politicians and is bribed by corporations. So yes, I think there is a similarity.

Ideologically, both favour the death of multiparty democracy and its replacement with a merger of corporate and state, while the big and obvious difference is that Schwab Jnr. loves pretend diversity and globalism. Schwab Jnr. doesn't favour Aryan supermen, but he does want humanity to be transcended by merging with machines.

Yeah, the major difference between Communism and German National Socialism is wide-open world government globalism vs closed-border, tight community Nationalism. So on this Schwab couldn't be further from Nazism.

But yes, both ideologies require a very close-knit relationship between government and private business, which is obviously a recipe for corruption. Still, Germany was extremely successful economically with their system vs the Communist system. But that's another topic.

But calling him a Nazi to me is just ridiculous. The globalist left wouldn't tolerate someone like this running the planet for one second. Open borders, big bank currency systems, sexual liberation, and multicultural/multiracialism is paramount to the leftist system - stuff Hitler abhorred.

The current iteration of the CCP ironically resembles the Nazis more than the Communists.

[Niemand]

Back onto topic... Austria's most successful Olympian, and a famous actor have been among those to speak out.

https://freewestmedia.com/2021/11/16/au ... overnment/

Austrian sports legend says he is ‘ashamed of the government’

Courageous people who oppose discrimination against the unvaccinated and division in society still exist. At the risk, or rather the certainty of being the target of defamation and exclusion, Felix Gottwald has spoken up.

When international German movie star Til Schweiger reminded his audiences that he daughter now suffers from narcolepsy because of an earlier mass vaccination experiment against swine flu with the untested drug Pandemrix, he was humiliated and defamed, including being called an “@#$#%@!” on German public broadcaster ARD.

Gottwald, Austria’s most successful Olympic athlete and until most recently head of Bundes-Sport GmbH, resigned from his lucrative job to protest against the Austrian government’s tyrannical Corona policy.

"With three gold, one silver and three bronze medals, the former Nordic combined athlete is Austria’s most successful Olympic athlete in history,” the heute.at portal described Gottwald. “In spring 2021 he was appointed chairman of the national sports committee in federal sports GmbH. But he has now walked out because he is not satisfied with the government’s Corona policy – especially with Vice Chancellor and Sports Minister Werner Kogler.”

In an open letter on Facebook the athlete from Salzburg noted: “There may be a lot going on in our country, but certainly not about the health and well-being of the Austrians and the people living in Austria – and that in the midst of the greatest health crisis. Division, agitation, discrimination – these are the government imperatives of the hour.”

Gottwald clearly does not agree with the arbitrary Corona rules. In his letter he also writes: “As a demonstrably healthy person who uses sensible and reasonable measures to contain the pandemic in a very responsible manner, I am now, like millions of others, excluded from social life and thus from life that is full of sport.”

Gottwald challenged Kogler: “As Sports Minister, it is up to you to set levers in motion that promote and not prevent exercise and (popular) sport in what is probably the greatest health crisis of our time. How far are you ready to go? And: How far are you as a government ready to go?”

Gottwald declared that he has lost all confidence in politics. On social media, the most successful Austrian Olympic athlete is celebrated once again as a “hero”.

"I am deeply ashamed of our country and as an Austrian I am angry, sad and disconcerted at the same time. I’ve lost all confidence in politics and, with the best of intentions, I can’t think of any arguments why I should believe a syllable of it. The type of discourse within politics, the choice of words, the incongruence, the disregard that reaches me as a responsible citizen and taxpayer, irritate me deeply and would probably drive any company in the private sector into ruin immediately.”

In his hard-hitting open letter, he added: “As Austria’s most successful Olympic athlete, I have often lost and only rarely won. As an athlete, I have learned to deal with defeat and failure, to learn from them, to develop myself further and to treat myself and others with respect and dignity. I currently miss these virtues entirely on the part of politicians.”

Gottwald said he had been convinced that Austria “had learned from history” but was now “shocked to find that we as a society have become more presumptuous, ruthless and discriminatory than I have ever seen before."

Austrian Army Union joins mass protest
After FPÖ chief Herbert Kickl called for a mass protest on November 20 in Vienna, the Federal Army Union (FGÖ ) has now joined in a letter published on November 14. It wants to stand up for fundamental rights and freedoms. The union expressly pointed out that anyone and everyone can demonstrate – even during lockdown since the demonstration cannot be banned.

The federal army union expects that the police will be “cooperative” and that there will be no escalations. The chairman of the Social Democratic Union (FSG) group in the police union, Hermann Greylinger, left no doubt in an interview that the police are currently unable to carry out Corona controls.

The President of the Federal Armed Forces Union FGÖ, Manfred Haidinger stated on behalf of his union that they would take part in the demonstration for fundamental and civil rights on November 20 in Vienna and that no one should fear reprisals.

"We hereby make it clear that participation in meetings is a particularly protected legal asset and has also been taken into account in the current draft ordinance”. Participation and travel from all over Austria are permitted. “The ban on a gathering registered by citizens as well as the prohibition of a party rally has been ruled as illegal,” Haidinger explained. The reason for this are judgments by the Vienna Administrative Court. “There is no longer any possibility of appeal against the judgments. They are therefore trend-setting for the right of assembly as a whole.”

Doctors harshly enforce vaccine sales
Medical Association President Thomas Szekeres told the ORF press hour on November 14, that compulsory vaccination must be “forced on” the population: “I mean, it’s a question of whether you tie someone down and then give them the injection.” During the press hour, he once again excelled as a model propagandist. He explicitly advocated “that unvaccinated people also have massive disadvantages in their job”.

His deputy, Harald Mayer, has also been aggressively stirring up panic with the “fourth wave” allegedly rolling in. Mayer sees compulsory vaccination as well as a lockdown for everyone happening before Christmas.

Austrian Health Minister Mückstein has meanwhile announced lockdowns. And the Association of Statutory Health Insurance Physicians in Baden-Württemberg in Germany recommended that its contracted doctors resort to non-treatment for the unvaccinated.

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