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Well here's one for the crazy pile. I actuallly don't have a problem with 16 & 17 year olds voting, since many have jobs or financial worries, but 6? Just no.

How they roped this into Covid, I don't know. Well I do, but that is still stupid.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... d-runciman

Niemand wrote: ↑November 17th, 2021, 4:16 pm Well here's one for the crazy pile. I actuallly don't have a problem with 16 & 17 year olds voting, since many have jobs or financial worries, but 6? Just no.

How they roped this into Covid, I don't know. Well I do, but that is still stupid.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... d-runciman

I don't agree with 16 year olds voting. They know nothing. The fact that they might have financial worries is irrelevant. Since when have financial concerns been a qualification for voting?
My view is that no one under the age of 21 should vote.
As for voting at 6, why stop there? Let's have proxy voting for fetuses, or postal votes for the glint in the milkman's eye..

Robin Hood wrote: ↑November 17th, 2021, 4:24 pm

Niemand wrote: ↑November 17th, 2021, 4:16 pm Well here's one for the crazy pile. I actuallly don't have a problem with 16 & 17 year olds voting, since many have jobs or financial worries, but 6? Just no.

How they roped this into Covid, I don't know. Well I do, but that is still stupid.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... d-runciman

I don't agree with 16 year olds voting. They know nothing. The fact that they might have financial worries is irrelevant. Since when have financial concerns been a qualification for voting?
My view is that no one under the age of 21 should vote.
As for voting at 6, why stop there? Let's have proxy voting for fetuses.

I like the idea of proxy injections. Let's inject Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab with the vials designated for me.

There are older people who frankly shouldn't vote, but since I'm not a totalitarian, I think that is the price we pay.

The Scottish Youth Parliament is a joke as are other such bodies. I do support voting and the concept of proper democracy being introduced in schools though. When i say proper, I mean that woke elements must learn they cannot rode roughshod over others.

But look at the UK:
* Tories in England
* SNP in Scotland
* Labour in Wales
* DUP in Northern Ireland

They have all supported these bloody vaccine passports and lockdowns! The SNP held off until a couple of months after the Scottish election! Bunch of cowards. I was told by a pal in the SNP it would never happen months ago, and I assured him it would - he isn't responsible, he's grassroots, and was sincere in what he thought. The DUP is having issues.

I'm not a DUP fan, but Paul Frew at least is speaking out.
https://mobile.twitter.com/paulfrewDUP/

I don’t know what happened at the Executive today but I can tell you this I will never have a Domestic covid vaccine certificate in my hand. I will fight against any discrimination against people due to medical history & status. When they are excluded I will be with them

I can't help thinking they held off in Northern Ireland until the last couple of days, because there are two separate very militant and well armed tendencies there who will make their feelings known physically...

Even in the dependencies, the Manx government kowtowed and went for them. Gibraltar has two. The leader of the IOM went and got a stroke.

Yes, like you say, "opposames". I've stolen thst phrase and use it occasionally. We might as well post our ballots to Davos or whichever dark benighted corner our controllers sit in. I don't expect children to know about these things. I first learnt about some of these secret combinations in my teens, largely by fluke.

My view is that about 90% of the population is better off not voting at all. If your personal life and finances are a disaster, why are you telling other people you’re intelligent enough to know how government should be run? I guess I’m more in the ancient philosopher school of anti-democracy. It’s just mob rule at the barrel of a gun in the end. I think the only form of government and society I really like very much would be manorialism. Seems like a good idea to have things locally manufactured, generated, and be self reliant. A modern form of it would be interesting. I guess the Amish have it nailed.

Niemand wrote: ↑November 17th, 2021, 4:16 pm Well here's one for the crazy pile. I actuallly don't have a problem with 16 & 17 year olds voting, since many have jobs or financial worries, but 6? Just no.

How they roped this into Covid, I don't know. Well I do, but that is still stupid.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... d-runciman

6 year olds always vote Democrat. Along with pets and dead people. Nothing to see here.

The number "6" is likely not arbitrary.

Wait until they start wanting to vote in the name of their aborted children.

Robin Hood wrote: ↑November 17th, 2021, 4:24 pm

Niemand wrote: ↑November 17th, 2021, 4:16 pm Well here's one for the crazy pile. I actuallly don't have a problem with 16 & 17 year olds voting, since many have jobs or financial worries, but 6? Just no.

How they roped this into Covid, I don't know. Well I do, but that is still stupid.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... d-runciman

I don't agree with 16 year olds voting. They know nothing. The fact that they might have financial worries is irrelevant. Since when have financial concerns been a qualification for voting?
My view is that no one under the age of 21 should vote.
As for voting at 6, why stop there? Let's have proxy voting for fetuses, or postal votes for the glint in the milkman's eye..

I'll take it further. The original voting clause in the USA constitution was the best: men, who hold property. I could care less how much the Church loves that female members were at the forefront of the Suffrage Movement.

Robin Hood wrote: ↑November 17th, 2021, 4:24 pm

Niemand wrote: ↑November 17th, 2021, 4:16 pm Well here's one for the crazy pile. I actuallly don't have a problem with 16 & 17 year olds voting, since many have jobs or financial worries, but 6? Just no.

How they roped this into Covid, I don't know. Well I do, but that is still stupid.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... d-runciman

I don't agree with 16 year olds voting. They know nothing. The fact that they might have financial worries is irrelevant. Since when have financial concerns been a qualification for voting?
My view is that no one under the age of 21 should vote.
As for voting at 6, why stop there? Let's have proxy voting for fetuses, or postal votes for the glint in the milkman's eye..

I like the idea of waiting until 21. My only objection is that if a kid decides to join the military either at 18, or younger with parents consent, then they ought to have the right to vote. Especially if they get into combat.

JohnnyL wrote: ↑November 23rd, 2021, 7:42 pm

Robin Hood wrote: ↑November 17th, 2021, 4:24 pm

Niemand wrote: ↑November 17th, 2021, 4:16 pm Well here's one for the crazy pile. I actuallly don't have a problem with 16 & 17 year olds voting, since many have jobs or financial worries, but 6? Just no.

How they roped this into Covid, I don't know. Well I do, but that is still stupid.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... d-runciman

I don't agree with 16 year olds voting. They know nothing. The fact that they might have financial worries is irrelevant. Since when have financial concerns been a qualification for voting?
My view is that no one under the age of 21 should vote.
As for voting at 6, why stop there? Let's have proxy voting for fetuses, or postal votes for the glint in the milkman's eye..

I'll take it further. The original voting clause in the USA constitution was the best: men, who hold property. I could care less how much the Church loves that female members were at the forefront of the Suffrage Movement.

I get that alot of our problems politically are because of left leaning females and feminists going to the polls, but I would take REAL issue if I were told I could no longer vote. I don't like the idea of only men voting, but I do agree with the idea of property owners.

I'm not a property owner, though I would love to be. Why should I be denied the right to vote because I'm female or because I am not rich enough to buy land?

As for the op, that's nonsense! 6 year olds aren't old enough to know what they need to know to vote for someone. And I doubt they'd even care (unless the politician bribed them with fun kid stuff if they voted for them).

If you're an adult, then you have a right to voice your opinion in government, regardless of your age, sex/gender, financial situations, intelligence/wisdom, etc.

No taxation without representation. Since every adult citizen is presumably taxed (in theory anyway), that means everyone deserves the opportunity to be able to contribute to government. It really is that simple. Nothing less should suffice.

tdj wrote: ↑November 23rd, 2021, 8:06 pm

Robin Hood wrote: ↑November 17th, 2021, 4:24 pm

Niemand wrote: ↑November 17th, 2021, 4:16 pm Well here's one for the crazy pile. I actuallly don't have a problem with 16 & 17 year olds voting, since many have jobs or financial worries, but 6? Just no.

How they roped this into Covid, I don't know. Well I do, but that is still stupid.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... d-runciman

I don't agree with 16 year olds voting. They know nothing. The fact that they might have financial worries is irrelevant. Since when have financial concerns been a qualification for voting?
My view is that no one under the age of 21 should vote.
As for voting at 6, why stop there? Let's have proxy voting for fetuses, or postal votes for the glint in the milkman's eye..

I like the idea of waiting until 21. My only objection is that if a kid decides to join the military either at 18, or younger with parents consent, then they ought to have the right to vote. Especially if they get into combat.

Why?

Silver Pie wrote: ↑November 23rd, 2021, 10:20 pm I'm not a property owner, though I would love to be. Why should I be denied the right to vote because I'm female or because I am not rich enough to buy land?

As for the op, that's nonsense! 6 year olds aren't old enough to know what they need to know to vote for someone. And I doubt they'd even care (unless the politician bribed them with fun kid stuff if they voted for them).

A lot of things get into the media which sound downright crazy and then become mainstream a few years later.

I think a good example of this is with children this age and younger being encouraged to transition their gender, as if they have any idea at that age of all the implications. I saw this on a documentary less than ten years ago and it was seen as an extreme position back then even by most of those who supported the trans movement, now it's become unassailable...

I've a funny feeling that this may be mainstreamed soon. I find it odd that the newspaper tries to link it to post-Covid "reconstruction" as if the issue has anything to do with any of that at all. It seems like they just want to use that issue to shoehorn in a lot of issues like this, which will probably annoy people enough to keep them from looking at the real things going on e.g. Fourth Industrial Revolution, Transhumanism, death of civil rights for grown adults etc.

Durzan wrote: ↑November 23rd, 2021, 11:16 pm If you're an adult, then you have a right to voice your opinion in government, regardless of your age, sex/gender, financial situations, intelligence/wisdom, etc.

No taxation without representation. Since every adult citizen is presumably taxed (in theory anyway), that means everyone deserves the opportunity to be able to contribute to government. It really is that simple. Nothing less should suffice.

We have a stupid ginger group here called the Tax Payers' Alliance. I call it stupid because everyone pays tax here apart from invalids and small children. (For some reason the Tax Payers' Alliance is reluctant to let any new people join, I know of people who tried...)

I'll have to watch the terminology here, because every country/state has slightly different tax systems, but where I live, we have the usual tax on income, and another local tax "council tax", along with duties on tobacco, alcohol, "carbon" (!), motor vehicles etc.

We have something here called Value Added Tax, or VAT which every man, woman and their dog pays in some form so are technically "tax payers". It's a very evil form of taxation, since it ramps the cost of living up. Even tourists, illegal immigrants and the homeless contribute to VAT every time they buy a small item in a store. It's practically impossible to spend any time here and not pay VAT. (Unless you go entirely black market, which is next to impossible, and even then whoever you pay will be paying it somewhere anyway.)

The only reason children don't pay it is because other people buy for them. If they start receiving pocket money/vouchers, phones or whatever, then they pay too.

So everybody who earns/gets money here pays tax in some form.

Niemand wrote: ↑November 24th, 2021, 3:21 amA lot of things get into the media which sound downright crazy and then become mainstream a few years later.

I think a good example of this is with children this age and younger being encouraged to transition their gender, as if they have any idea at that age of all the implications. I saw this on a documentary less than ten years ago and it was seen as an extreme position back then even by most of those who supported the trans movement, now it's become unassailable...

About this. When I was a kid, over 50 years ago, I wanted to be a boy. Not seriously, because I knew it was impossible, but I liked "boy" things. I liked the freedom boys had. I liked bugs, playing in dirt, climbing trees if I could reach the lowest branch, and so on. I thought girls were dumb because they were afraid of bugs, and so on.

So, when I was 13 or so, I gave up on being a boy because it was obviously never going to happen, but as an adult, I used to joke about "when I was a boy." I don't make that joke anymore because someone might take it seriously.

Can you imagine if I lived in the insane society of today? I would have been encouraged to be a boy, no matter what my mother's opinions were (and if my mother supported it, it would have been worse)! No doubt, before age 12, I would have been given hormone blockers and maybe even had some surgery done - all before I was mentally and emotionally old enough to understand what was really being done to me. I have a feeling I'd be one of those "transgenders" who would be majorly ticked off as an adult because I had been made a physiological boy (inasmuch as that is possible), when the problem wasn't that I wanted to be a boy, but I wanted the freedom to be myself.

(If that had happened, I wonder if I would have been considered "gay" since my hormones, untampered with anyway, would never have let me be romantically interested in females.) That's another mess this stuff creates.

I've a funny feeling that this may be mainstreamed soon. I find it odd that the newspaper tries to link it to post-Covid "reconstruction" as if the issue has anything to do with any of that at all. It seems like they just want to use that issue to shoehorn in a lot of issues like this, which will probably annoy people enough to keep them from looking at the real things going on e.g. Fourth Industrial Revolution, Transhumanism, death of civil rights for grown adults etc.

I'm sure pedophiles would love for 6 year olds to vote, because the next thing on the agenda could be that children as young as 6 can consent to sexual relations. Barf!
Downright creepy. The world has gone insane.

Silver Pie wrote: ↑November 24th, 2021, 7:30 pm About this. When I was a kid, over 50 years ago, I wanted to be a boy. Not seriously, because I knew it was impossible, but I liked "boy" things. I liked the freedom boys had. I liked bugs, playing in dirt, climbing trees if I could reach the lowest branch, and so on. I thought girls were dumb because they were afraid of bugs, and so on.

So, when I was 13 or so, I gave up on being a boy because it was obviously never going to happen, but as an adult, I used to joke about "when I was a boy." I don't make that joke anymore because someone might take it seriously.

I used to try on my mother's high heels as a little boy sometimes. Even her perfume and lipstick!

I suppose one of these shrink types would think that indicated some kind of inclination towards a female identity... and would also completely ignore the fact I also tried on my father's shoes and attempted to shave with his razor. (Frequently cutting myself.) Yes, I acknowledge I did change over time. Before eleven, I had no interest in contact sports but during my teens I ended up playing a lot of rugby (and enjoyed it)... but did I ever think of myself as female? No. I wondered what it would be like, much as I wonder what it would be like having a different physical or racial appearance, but have no wish to be such things.

I've worn kilts occasionally in my life and that is a whole other cans of worms. I've never felt like I was cross-dressing in one, but I know there are shrink types who say it is a repressed transvestism. (More the reverse trousers/pants have only become a major part of male clothing in the last five hundred years or so - before then men wore things like skirts, gowns etc. Still do in places like the South Seas and some parts of Africa.)

Can you imagine if I lived in the insane society of today? I would have been encouraged to be a boy, no matter what my mother's opinions were (and if my mother supported it, it would have been worse)! No doubt, before age 12, I would have been given hormone blockers and maybe even had some surgery done - all before I was mentally and emotionally old enough to understand what was really being done to me. I have a feeling I'd be one of those "transgenders" who would be majorly ticked off as an adult because I had been made a physiological boy (inasmuch as that is possible), when the problem wasn't that I wanted to be a boy, but I wanted the freedom to be myself.

On the surface, what would be done to a young female child would be less dramatic. A boy would end up with obvious parts removed. When you reached your mid teens, it would be a major case of "what if?" As a young boy, I had no idea how tall I would be or what build. I would say I had a pretty different build, but at one point around twelve or so I was actually tall for my age.

I was very surprised to read that the majority of child transgenders are born female. I always thought it would be the other way round, because certainly with adults, traditionally it seemed like more males wished to be women than vice versa.

But the key point is that a huge number of them regret it. If an adult wishes to become transgender, I think that is on them, but if a child does, there are a whole load of other issues. One of the things that they never factor in is non-sexual development. Hormones help adults build up their bones, muscle groups etc, and if you remove that then children can develop brittle bones etc.

Another horror scenario... I read of one person who went through the menopause in her teens! Being a teenager + menopause would be a total nightmare. Teenage life feels complex enough already. She said she regretted the choice, and identifies as a "she" now although the damage has been done.

(If that had happened, I wonder if I would have been considered "gay" since my hormones, untampered with anyway, would never have let me be romantically interested in females.) That's another mess this stuff creates.

It leads to all kinds of complicated scenarios. I know of M2F people who never lost their interest in women, and F2M ones who never lost their interest in men. The woke people have all kinds of fun trying to coin new names for these scenarios.

I'm sure pedophiles would love for 6 year olds to vote, because the next thing on the agenda could be that children as young as 6 can consent to sexual relations. Barf!
Downright creepy. The world has gone insane.

Oh, there are a lot of crazy things like that. However, I wouldn't be against children voting in limited settings. We actually campaigned for, and won, a right to a vote in our high school (we don't have such things traditionally here). We ended up doing two things - our own mock national election, and also voting for class leaders. I think these were both good because they taught people about politics.

I remember because we had some time at the end of a school year once, one of our teachers taught us about the stock market. We "invested" money in various countries and saw how they did from the papers. It was good fun and I turned a decent profit by the end of it. But here's the key thing, it wasn't using real money and they weren't real shares. So that's how I see this voting stuff - it can be applied to certain things (maybe not at age six!) in schools etc, that might be a good thing...

Robin Hood wrote: ↑November 24th, 2021, 12:51 am

tdj wrote: ↑November 23rd, 2021, 8:06 pm

Robin Hood wrote: ↑November 17th, 2021, 4:24 pm

Niemand wrote: ↑November 17th, 2021, 4:16 pm Well here's one for the crazy pile. I actuallly don't have a problem with 16 & 17 year olds voting, since many have jobs or financial worries, but 6? Just no.

How they roped this into Covid, I don't know. Well I do, but that is still stupid.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... d-runciman

I don't agree with 16 year olds voting. They know nothing. The fact that they might have financial worries is irrelevant. Since when have financial concerns been a qualification for voting?
My view is that no one under the age of 21 should vote.
As for voting at 6, why stop there? Let's have proxy voting for fetuses, or postal votes for the glint in the milkman's eye..

I like the idea of waiting until 21. My only objection is that if a kid decides to join the military either at 18, or younger with parents consent, then they ought to have the right to vote. Especially if they get into combat.

Why?

Why? Because simply put, if a kid puts their life on the line in a combat zone protecting their country, then they've earned the right to have a say in a vote concerning that same country.

tdj wrote: ↑November 25th, 2021, 12:32 pm

Robin Hood wrote: ↑November 24th, 2021, 12:51 am

tdj wrote: ↑November 23rd, 2021, 8:06 pm

Robin Hood wrote: ↑November 17th, 2021, 4:24 pm

I don't agree with 16 year olds voting. They know nothing. The fact that they might have financial worries is irrelevant. Since when have financial concerns been a qualification for voting?
My view is that no one under the age of 21 should vote.
As for voting at 6, why stop there? Let's have proxy voting for fetuses, or postal votes for the glint in the milkman's eye..

I like the idea of waiting until 21. My only objection is that if a kid decides to join the military either at 18, or younger with parents consent, then they ought to have the right to vote. Especially if they get into combat.

Why?

Why? Because simply put, if a kid puts their life on the line in a combat zone protecting their country, then they've earned the right to have a say in a vote concerning that same country.

Yeah I've never gone along with that argument. It's not as if they were conscripted and thrown onto a battle field. It's a volunteer army and they knew they could be involved in combat when they joined up. So I don't see why that should automatically qualify them to vote.

Robin Hood wrote: ↑November 25th, 2021, 2:10 pm

tdj wrote: ↑November 25th, 2021, 12:32 pm

Robin Hood wrote: ↑November 24th, 2021, 12:51 am

tdj wrote: ↑November 23rd, 2021, 8:06 pm

I like the idea of waiting until 21. My only objection is that if a kid decides to join the military either at 18, or younger with parents consent, then they ought to have the right to vote. Especially if they get into combat.

Why?

Why? Because simply put, if a kid puts their life on the line in a combat zone protecting their country, then they've earned the right to have a say in a vote concerning that same country.

Yeah I've never gone along with that argument. It's not as if they were conscripted and thrown onto a battle field. It's a volunteer army and they knew they could be involved in combat when they joined up. So I don't see why that should automatically qualify them to vote.

The fact that they WEREN'T forced too makes them being able to vote all the more an honorable and decent thing to do. If they aren't mature enough to have a say in the vote, then they certainly aren't mature enough to be allowed to choose to take up arms in battle.
It's just my opinion of course, but I just think that if the voting age was raised to 21, and a 17 or 18+ yr old voluntarily joined the service, and get shot at for their trouble, then they have earned the right to vote. What kind of society would allow a kid to get arms, limbs blown off, but when they come home, basically give them the collective middle finger and say, "Nope, you don't get a say so in what goes on around here". I mean REALLY??

16 year olds can join the army here and marry (and consent). They can't smoke, drink, drive or get the full minimum wage. (They could smoke when I was sixteen, but it's been changed since.) They are allowed to vote in one or two things.

But bear in mind this post is about SIX year olds voting, not sixteen year olds. That's a world of difference - between small children who can barely write a proper sentence and young adults basically.

Niemand wrote: ↑November 25th, 2021, 5:17 am I used to try on my mother's high heels as a little boy sometimes. Even her perfume and lipstick!

I used to attract children friends when I was younger. One little boy was visiting me. He was in my bathroom. When I went in to see what he was doing, he had put my makeup on all over his face . . . like an Indian warrior.

I suppose one of these shrink types would think that indicated some kind of inclination towards a female identity... and would also completely ignore the fact I also tried on my father's shoes and attempted to shave with his razor.

Ignoring all the evidence that does not match one's preconceived notions is a huge problem in science, unfortunately.

I've worn kilts occasionally in my life and that is a whole other cans of worms. I've never felt like I was cross-dressing in one, but I know there are shrink types who say it is a repressed transvestism. (More the reverse trousers/pants have only become a major part of male clothing in the last five hundred years or so - before then men wore things like skirts, gowns etc. Still do in places like the South Seas and some parts of Africa.)

I have never in my life considered kilts cross-dressing. There are some South Sea Islanders who also wear "skirts". I forget which island, but I lived in a ward where one of them was married to a half Hawaiian/half Haole. He often wore it on Sunday or to funerals, as it was considered formal attire on his island. I would use the correct word, but I don't recall what it was. Perhaps an islander reading this post could/would inform us.

Absolutely! Pants/trousers are a new thing in the history of the world. Jesus never wore them, because they didn't exist in his day. The closest we had, I think, were the cloths India Indians would wrap around themselves (dhoti).

On the surface, what would be done to a young female child would be less dramatic. A boy would end up with obvious parts removed. When you reached your mid teens, it would be a major case of "what if?"

Good point.

But the key point is that a huge number of them regret it. If an adult wishes to become transgender, I think that is on them, but if a child does, there are a whole load of other issues. One of the things that they never factor in is non-sexual development. Hormones help adults build up their bones, muscle groups etc, and if you remove that then children can develop brittle bones etc.

I agree. To mess up children's health and minds is not good. If an adult wants to do it, that's their choice.

Another horror scenario... I read of one person who went through the menopause in her teens! Being a teenager + menopause would be a total nightmare. Teenage life feels complex enough already. She said she regretted the choice, and identifies as a "she" now although the damage has been done.

Wow! That is so sad.

It leads to all kinds of complicated scenarios. I know of M2F people who never lost their interest in women, and F2M ones who never lost their interest in men. The woke people have all kinds of fun trying to coin new names for these scenarios.

It creates a mass of confusion. And false labels.

Oh, there are a lot of crazy things like that. However, I wouldn't be against children voting in limited settings. We actually campaigned for, and won, a right to a vote in our high school (we don't have such things traditionally here). We ended up doing two things - our own mock national election, and also voting for class leaders. I think these were both good because they taught people about politics.

I remember because we had some time at the end of a school year once, one of our teachers taught us about the stock market. We "invested" money in various countries and saw how they did from the papers. It was good fun and I turned a decent profit by the end of it. But here's the key thing, it wasn't using real money and they weren't real shares. So that's how I see this voting stuff - it can be applied to certain things (maybe not at age six!) in schools etc, that might be a good thing...

I am completely for children voting for their own class leaders. I also like what your teacher did. Mock voting and mock experiences in regards to what the child will experience as an adult is a good idea.

OFF TOPIC:
The picture of the dhoti I found is quite large, so I'm putting it at the bottom of my reply. I am also including a 50 second video on how to wrap them for anyone interested. (I think slacks/pants/trousers were not invented until it was easier to sew them. I think most of the clothing worn in the ancient days were very simply made because complicated clothing would be quite difficult to make by hand. Anyone who knows the history of clothing and can correct me, I'm open to it; in fact, I'd be open to you making a thread about the history of clothing and putting a link to it in this thread.)



https://www.utsavpedia.com/attires/dhot ... ndian-men/

Silver Pie wrote: ↑November 24th, 2021, 7:30 pm I'm sure pedophiles would love for 6 year olds to vote, because the next thing on the agenda could be that children as young as 6 can consent to sexual relations. Barf!
Downright creepy. The world has gone insane.

Very disturbing. I don't know how the one got on a TED Talk. The other lost their job, which is a good thing, imo.

Silver Pie wrote: ↑November 27th, 2021, 3:37 pm

Silver Pie wrote: ↑November 24th, 2021, 7:30 pm I'm sure pedophiles would love for 6 year olds to vote, because the next thing on the agenda could be that children as young as 6 can consent to sexual relations. Barf!
Downright creepy. The world has gone insane.

Very disturbing. I don't know how the one got on a TED Talk. The other lost their job, which is a good thing, imo.

I hate the direction the left has taken. At one point, I believe it used to do some good, especially with things like wage levels etc. Nowadays it just concentrates on turning everything upside down, Satan-style, but doing very little for the bulk of ordinary people. If they back this, it will no doubt be to be contrary... because everything white patriarchal heteronormative society backs, must be bad, right? Much like votes for six year olds, a crazy idea, but "stuff the patriarchy" and all that.

It's actually pretty sad how politics concentrates so much on people's groins now, and not more on whether they can look after their families or how to deal with crime and poverty.

Niemand wrote: ↑November 28th, 2021, 4:48 am It's actually pretty sad how politics concentrates so much on people's groins now, and not more on whether they can look after their families or how to deal with crime and poverty.

Amen!