I’ve never heard of it. I was taught that we followed Christ and Heavenly Father’s plan to come to this earth. Some were valiant others were not, some were neutral. To be evil would have meant that you kept not your first estate and could not advance to the second, which is obtaining a body. As Benson said, “Having proved faithful in their first estate in heaven, they are now subject to the test of mortality in this second estate.” How could one be evil and faithful?Fred wrote: ↑November 12th, 2021, 1:53 pmIt is in the Bible. They teach it in church. They always have. No surprises. Cain was the son of the devil or similar words. He was evil before he was born, during birth, after birth, and he proved it by killing Abel. Maybe someone else can run down the scriptures for you. I just know it to be true.Mamabear wrote: ↑November 12th, 2021, 1:37 pmCan you provide scriptures/doctrine to support this?Fred wrote: ↑November 12th, 2021, 1:30 pmAll first estate means is that they didn't get kicked out. Everyone, even the most evil of spirits, that did not follow Lucifer out the door kept their first estate.Mamabear wrote: ↑November 12th, 2021, 1:23 pm
All who came to this earth kept their first estate. Those who did not, were cast out and did not obtain a body.
“First Estate. The premortal life. As Thirteenth President Ezra Taft Benson explained to a general conference audience, “I testify that all those who come into mortality accepted our Father’s plan. (See Abr. 3:26.) Having proved faithful in their first estate in heaven, they are now subject to the test of mortality in this second estate” (“I Testify,” Ensign (Conference Edition), November 1988, p. 86).
“What do the terms first estate and second estate mean in Abraham 3:26? (First estate refers to the premortal life, and second estate refers to our mortal life. We kept our first estate by choosing to follow Jesus Christ instead of Lucifer.)” (Old Testament Gospel Doctrine Teacher’s Manual, p. 5).”
By not getting kicked out, they automatically get to come to earth for mortal life.
So what you wrote is about as important as Jack in the Beanstalk. It means nothing. Of course, the evil spirits kept their first estate. They didn't get kicked out. They decided to get a body to follow Lucifer with instead. They are still incredibly evil spirits. They were evil the day they were born. They are evil now. Otherwise, they would not be a democrat, socialist, Marxist, or other follower of satan.
I don’t think I believe in people being born evil just like I don’t believe people are born gay, or addicts to any type of sin.
