Why we should not tolerate democrats, especially in our neighborhoods

[Fred]

I have said many times that democrats are evil to the core. In a decent society they would be discarded as buffoons or relegated to insane asylums. It isn't just that they have a differing opinion any more than satan has a differing opinion. They do after all worship satan. As they did before they were born. God allowed these scum to come to earth, giving them the opportunity to see the light and repent. It is possible. Some actually do.

Nothing they ever do is good. They never have even a good idea. There is absolutely nothing good about them. These are the people that should be discriminated against. Not skin color. But ideology. They are evil. That is why there will not be a single one in the Celestial Kingdom.

Tucker Carlson shows them as they are.

It is pretty clear that democrats hate freedom. So, considering that the Q15 are largely socialist, Marxist, satanist, democrat, the question is: Were these people among the third part that chose to follow Lucifer with a body? Or in other words, were the Q15 evil the day they were born?

[BuriedTartaria]

I love Tucker

[Mamabear]

Fred, I think they have fallen for the ideas of Babylon like the rest of the world. No they weren’t born that way. No one is born evil. Children cannot be evil. We know that once we stop listening to the Holy Ghost and put our worldly desires first, then Satan enters in. The love of money and lack of revelation is a big part of the downfall. If someone like Moroni was the prophet right now, he would stand up for freedom, call out secret combinations and communist governments, and rebuke sin like nobody’s business. He would be hated by the world and their leaders. No government officials or other religions would desire to meet with him. His life would be sought after as all ancient prophets experienced.

[Gadianton Slayer]

If someone like Moroni was the prophet right now, he would stand up for freedom, call out secret combinations and communist governments, and rebuke sin like nobody’s business. He would be hated by the world and their leaders. No government officials or other religions would desire to meet with him. His life would be sought after as all ancient prophets experienced.

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[markharr]

Our primary mission that we have been given as a church is to spread the gospel. You can't do that if you cast people out. Nobody can show me a scripture that says our mission is to destroy secret combinations. That might change in the future, but as of now, our mission is to Thrust in Your Sickle. Nobody has ever been converted to the gospel who was cast out of your communities.

Even if there is only one Alma the Younger out of a million, the Lord wants us to find them and save them.

[Lizzy60]

Fred, I think they have fallen for the ideas of Babylon like the rest of the world. No they weren’t born that way. No one is born evil. Children cannot be evil. We know that once we stop listening to the Holy Ghost and put our worldly desires first, then Satan enters in. The love of money and lack of revelation is a big part of the downfall. If someone like Moroni was the prophet right now, he would stand up for freedom, call out secret combinations and communist governments, and rebuke sin like nobody’s business. He would be hated by the world and their leaders. No government officials or other religions would desire to meet with him. His life would be sought after as all ancient prophets experienced.

There are two groups of people who come to Earth. The first group are those who chose Christ, and his plan. They are the wheat, in the parable, that Christ plants on this earth. The second group of people are those who decided to come here and get a body, but who had the devil as their father (John 8). They are the tares from the parable, planted by Satan.

The wheat and tares are indistinguishable until they have ripened. But, each individual is either going to ripen into a wheat or a tare. Christ knows who is who, although we usually don’t, unless given discernment.

So I guess you could say that no one is “born that way” but in the eyes of Christ, ummm, yes, they are. They are born (planted) as either wheat or tare. Their lives reveal who they are, even though they are already known by God before they’re enter the womb (Jeremiah 1).

[Lizzy60]

Our primary mission that we have been given as a church is to spread the gospel. You can't do that if you cast people out. Nobody can show me a scripture that says our mission is to destroy secret combinations. That might change in the future, but as of now, our mission is to Thrust in Your Sickle. Nobody has ever been converted to the gospel who was cast out of your communities.

Even if there is only one Alma the Younger out of a million, the Lord wants us to find them and save them.

As if the Lord can’t find them, but we can, and we can save them. Seriously?

[markharr]

Our primary mission that we have been given as a church is to spread the gospel. You can't do that if you cast people out. Nobody can show me a scripture that says our mission is to destroy secret combinations. That might change in the future, but as of now, our mission is to Thrust in Your Sickle. Nobody has ever been converted to the gospel who was cast out of your communities.

Even if there is only one Alma the Younger out of a million, the Lord wants us to find them and save them.

As if the Lord can’t find them, but we can, and we can save them. Seriously?

This has been doctrine since the day the church was founded. It's not like I just presented some new radical concept. Tossing people out of our communities is the new radical concept.

[BuriedTartaria]

If someone like Moroni was the prophet right now, he would stand up for freedom, call out secret combinations and communist governments, and rebuke sin like nobody’s business. He would be hated by the world and their leaders. No government officials or other religions would desire to meet with him. His life would be sought after as all ancient prophets experienced.

Sounds like Trump, to be honest

[Gadianton Slayer]

Our primary mission that we have been given as a church is to spread the gospel. You can't do that if you cast people out. Nobody can show me a scripture that says our mission is to destroy secret combinations.

Perhaps not destroy them... but join with them??? Have you read Ether 8?

[markharr]

This is what they do.

What is the point if we behave exactly as they do?

Isn't that what they want? Now we are all Democrats.

[markharr]

Our primary mission that we have been given as a church is to spread the gospel. You can't do that if you cast people out. Nobody can show me a scripture that says our mission is to destroy secret combinations.

Perhaps not destroy them... but join with them??? Have you read Ether 8?

What is behaving like they do if not joining with them?

I suggested nothing of the sort. Be a light unto the world.

[TrueFaith]

If someone like Moroni was the prophet right now, he would stand up for freedom, call out secret combinations and communist governments, and rebuke sin like nobody’s business. He would be hated by the world and their leaders. No government officials or other religions would desire to meet with him. His life would be sought after as all ancient prophets experienced.

Sounds like Trump, to be honest

Fact is most people calling for a true modern Captain Moroni would actually be appalled by him and reject him. Captain Moroni didn't screw around. He followed his speeches up with the mass murder of the psychopaths destroying his nation. They didn't get much of a trial either, probably a lot of half-decent people got caught up in it (were all of Zerahemna's soldiers really deserving of death, for example?). The real Captain Moroni doesn't exactly measure up to the fantastical cartoons and paintings of him. The dude was absolutely brutal to the bad guys.

As I've said before, the closest we've seen to a modern Captain Moroni in the last 100 years is probably Adolf Hitler. And yet, Mormon says he was a man of God that all men should aspire to.

Could most people here handle that? I doubt it. Because most today in our feminized, globohomo world have no real clue anymore what right and wrong even means anymore

[Gadianton Slayer]

Our primary mission that we have been given as a church is to spread the gospel. You can't do that if you cast people out. Nobody can show me a scripture that says our mission is to destroy secret combinations.

Perhaps not destroy them... but join with them??? Have you read Ether 8?

What is behaving like they do if not joining with them?

I suggested nothing of the sort. Be a light unto the world.

I'm speaking about the collective church as led by its leaders, wearing a mask and promoting the jab is joining.

[markharr]

Our primary mission that we have been given as a church is to spread the gospel. You can't do that if you cast people out. Nobody can show me a scripture that says our mission is to destroy secret combinations.

Perhaps not destroy them... but join with them??? Have you read Ether 8?

What is behaving like they do if not joining with them?

I suggested nothing of the sort. Be a light unto the world.

I'm speaking about the collective church as led by its leaders, wearing a mask and promoting the jab is joining.

I can't speak for them because I am not privy to what is happening behind the scenes. I don't want to be held accountable for making false accusations so I am reserving judgement until I know all of the details. This thread isn't about that anyway.

We are commanded to leave Babylon and build Zion. Zion then attracts others to whom we can minister because it is the only place where there is peace. We leave Babylon. We do not attempt to make Babylon into Zion.

Throwing out everyone who doesn't agree with you in an attempt at building your Utopia is the opposite of that and it is what Lucifer does.

[dreamtheater76]

Our primary mission that we have been given as a church is to spread the gospel. You can't do that if you cast people out. Nobody can show me a scripture that says our mission is to destroy secret combinations. That might change in the future, but as of now, our mission is to Thrust in Your Sickle. Nobody has ever been converted to the gospel who was cast out of your communities.

Even if there is only one Alma the Younger out of a million, the Lord wants us to find them and save them.

As if the Lord can’t find them, but we can, and we can save them. Seriously?

This has been doctrine since the day the church was founded. It's not like I just presented some new radical concept. Tossing people out of our communities is the new radical concept.

You are right about that. Throwing people in the lion's den always comes back to bite you later. It's not easy to be both right and be a peacemaker. But it's more effective than lowering yourself to the level of those who reject the Savior and His teachings.
That is why I admire President Benson. I love the way he handled himself.
W.Cleon Skousen was that way too. I ran into him a few times because I grew up with his grandson. A man full of the Saviors love and spoke truth.
Faith, love, hope, and charity. Important to have Christlike traits and be on the right side. You have to have both or it becomes a losing situation.

[lundbaek]

I know of no scripture that says our mission is to destroy secret combinations. But there is one that says "suffer not that these murderous combinations shall get above you, which are built up to get power and gain" (Ether 8:23). And I think that in D&C 123:13 we are being told to work to expose "all the hidden things of darkness". I believe these words require Latter-day Saints to do something about our awful situation' brought on by the secret combination that shall be among you".

[markharr]

I know of no scripture that says our mission is to destroy secret combinations. But there is one that says "suffer not that these murderous combinations shall get above you, which are built up to get power and gain" (Ether 8:23). And I think that in D&C 123:13 we are being told to work to expose "all the hidden things of darkness". I believe these words require Latter-day Saints to do something about our awful situation' brought on by the secret combination that shall be among you".

I agree. We should expose it everywhere we can. If for no other reason than it forces them to either repent or lie even more to cover it up. Heaping more coals of fire upon their heads.

Either way, it works out for us. If some repent, then we have found that one Alma in a million. Those that don't are only making it worse for themselves.

[TrueFaith]

I know of no scripture that says our mission is to destroy secret combinations. But there is one that says "suffer not that these murderous combinations shall get above you, which are built up to get power and gain" (Ether 8:23). And I think that in D&C 123:13 we are being told to work to expose "all the hidden things of darkness". I believe these words require Latter-day Saints to do something about our awful situation' brought on by the secret combination that shall be among you".

I agree. We should expose it everywhere we can. If for no other reason than it forces them to either repent or lie even more to cover it up. Heaping more coals of fire upon their heads.

Either way, it works out for us. If some repent, then we have found that one Alma in a million. Those that don't are only making it worse for themselves.

You guys didn't read 3 Nephi 4 where Nephites go to battle, annihilating the Gandianton Robbers, cutting off all their retreat, and hanging their leader?

Verse 29:
"May the Lord preserve his people in righteousness and in holiness of heart, that they may cause to be felled to the earth all who shall seek to slay them because of power and secret combinations, even as this man hath been felled to the earth."

Sounds like they destroyed tons and tons of secret combinations to me, and even prayed for it.

[markharr]

I know of no scripture that says our mission is to destroy secret combinations. But there is one that says "suffer not that these murderous combinations shall get above you, which are built up to get power and gain" (Ether 8:23). And I think that in D&C 123:13 we are being told to work to expose "all the hidden things of darkness". I believe these words require Latter-day Saints to do something about our awful situation' brought on by the secret combination that shall be among you".

I agree. We should expose it everywhere we can. If for no other reason than it forces them to either repent or lie even more to cover it up. Heaping more coals of fire upon their heads.

Either way, it works out for us. If some repent, then we have found that one Alma in a million. Those that don't are only making it worse for themselves.

You guys didn't read 3 Nephi 4 where Nephites go to battle, annihilating the Gandianton Robbers, cutting off all their retreat, and hanging their leader?

Verse 29:
"May the Lord preserve his people in righteousness and in holiness of heart, that they may cause to be felled to the earth all who shall seek to slay them because of power and secret combinations, even as this man hath been felled to the earth."

Sounds like they destroyed tons and tons of secret combinations to me, and even prayed for it.

I'm willing to bet that they didn't do it without following the law outlined in D&C 98 first. The Lord specifically says that that was the same law that he gave to all of his ancient peoples.

Have we followed that law?

[TrueFaith]

I know of no scripture that says our mission is to destroy secret combinations. But there is one that says "suffer not that these murderous combinations shall get above you, which are built up to get power and gain" (Ether 8:23). And I think that in D&C 123:13 we are being told to work to expose "all the hidden things of darkness". I believe these words require Latter-day Saints to do something about our awful situation' brought on by the secret combination that shall be among you".

I agree. We should expose it everywhere we can. If for no other reason than it forces them to either repent or lie even more to cover it up. Heaping more coals of fire upon their heads.

Either way, it works out for us. If some repent, then we have found that one Alma in a million. Those that don't are only making it worse for themselves.

You guys didn't read 3 Nephi 4 where Nephites go to battle, annihilating the Gandianton Robbers, cutting off all their retreat, and hanging their leader?

Verse 29:
"May the Lord preserve his people in righteousness and in holiness of heart, that they may cause to be felled to the earth all who shall seek to slay them because of power and secret combinations, even as this man hath been felled to the earth."

Sounds like they destroyed tons and tons of secret combinations to me, and even prayed for it.

I'm willing to bet that they didn't do it without following the law outlined in D&C 98 first. The Lord specifically says that that was the same law that he gave to all of his ancient peoples.

Have we followed that law?

That's a separate question. The original statement was, "I know of no scripture that says our mission is to destroy secret combinations". You said, "I agree".

I just showed where that statement is demonstrably false.

[Serragon]

Whenever an organization or community forms around certain values, those values need to be maintained. Whenever something enters that organization or community with the intent to remove the old values and instill new ones, it needs to be removed. This is especially true when those doing the changing are trying to hide what they are doing.

I believe in freedom of the individual to think, speak, and live their lives how they wish. But in order for a community to exist where people can live as they please, everyone has to be united around certain fundamental principles. If they are not, they become a cancer. We can have wildly different ideas about how to achieve those values in our community, but we can't disagree on what those values are.

Principles don't exist in a vaccuum. There must be implementation around those principles. And in that implementation, boundaries have to be set in order for that implementation to survive and thrive. Allowing cancer posing as healthy cells into those boundaries is not a reflection of tolerance. It is madness and will alwasy lead to the destruction of the very principles you were attempting to implement in the first place.

[markharr]

I just showed where that statement is demonstrably false.

I don't know that it is. If the Nephite people followed D&C 98, they didn't go to battle without the Lord's permission. We don't have that and so as of right now, our primary mission is to spread the gospel.

[nightlight]

If someone like Moroni was the prophet right now, he would stand up for freedom, call out secret combinations and communist governments, and rebuke sin like nobody’s business. He would be hated by the world and their leaders. No government officials or other religions would desire to meet with him. His life would be sought after as all ancient prophets experienced.

Sounds like Trump, to be honest

Fact is most people calling for a true modern Captain Moroni would actually be appalled by him and reject him. Captain Moroni didn't screw around. He followed his speeches up with the mass murder of the psychopaths destroying his nation. They didn't get much of a trial either, probably a lot of half-decent people got caught up in it (were all of Zerahemna's soldiers really deserving of death, for example?). The real Captain Moroni doesn't exactly measure up to the fantastical cartoons and paintings of him. The dude was absolutely brutal to the bad guys.

As I've said before, the closest we've seen to a modern Captain Moroni in the last 100 years is probably Adolf Hitler. And yet, Mormon says he was a man of God that all men should aspire to.

Could most people here handle that? I doubt it. Because most today in our feminized, globohomo world have no real clue anymore what right and wrong even means anymore

By definition....Moroni didn't "mass murder" anyone.

He executed the people who were dodging the draft.

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[Fred]

Fred, I think they have fallen for the ideas of Babylon like the rest of the world. No they weren’t born that way. No one is born evil. Children cannot be evil. We know that once we stop listening to the Holy Ghost and put our worldly desires first, then Satan enters in. The love of money and lack of revelation is a big part of the downfall. If someone like Moroni was the prophet right now, he would stand up for freedom, call out secret combinations and communist governments, and rebuke sin like nobody’s business. He would be hated by the world and their leaders. No government officials or other religions would desire to meet with him. His life would be sought after as all ancient prophets experienced.

You are mistaken. A third part of the spirits followed Lucifer and was cast out. A third part realized that Jesus was correct about God's plan. The other third part. Hmmm. Do you suppose they were just plain stupid? Of course not. Some wanted to follow Lucifer because they really did believe that forcing people was the correct way. These spirits were evil to the core before they were born. They decided to take the best of both worlds. Get a body and follow Lucifer that way.

Now we know for 100% certainty that you are totally wrong about there not being evil spirits in heaven before birth because Lucifer was there along with a third part of evil spirits that followed him. Are you silly enough to believe that Lucifer did not become evil until he met Adam and Eve? How utterly ridiculous. Are you also silly enough to believe that a spirit changes from evil to good the day it is born. Total foolishness. We are exactly the same person after birth as we was before. We just had a memory lapse.

You better wake up and accept truth!