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PeacefulProtests wrote: November 12th, 2021, 7:37 am
Gadianton Slayer wrote: November 12th, 2021, 6:30 am
Alaris wrote: November 11th, 2021, 11:29 pm
Gadianton Slayer wrote: November 11th, 2021, 10:49 pm
LMAO!

God help me the next time I talk with someone like that, I may lose it. Thank the heavens for this forum that isn’t full of communist members.

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I mean... these types of members are literally cursed for trusting a man. They will throw themselves and their children on the altar of Moloch at the direction of a church leader with supposed authority. Blind obedience is widely accepted in the world today, and it's showing.
Its worse than that though, they aren't just trusting one man they are trusting Pfizer (paid out one of the largest criminal fines in human history and literally have ZERO liability), they are trusting Anthony Fauci (already pulled this same scam with aids, guy has an extremely sketchy track record), they are trusting the WHO ( Changed the definition of what a pandemic is in 2009 so they could pull off these pandemic scams over and over) they are trusting the CDC (conveniently changed the definition of what a vaccine is) etc etc

I mean these people do zero due diligence, they have massive cognitive dissonance so any injury they see or hear about is either completely ignored or dismissed as a coincidence. I was having a conversation about this on another thread on that board and everybody that was on that thread was blind to the fact that they were being scammed except one other guy it was unreal. When I started showing them videos that China had faked the whole Pandemic right from the beginning (dead people fake dying in the streets etc) They said that had been fact checked as false and they kicked me out of the thread lol. Can't make this stuff up

Hard to have charity for these insolent people that vaxx their kids.

We saw a 3-part Netflix documentary called "Murder Among the Mormons" last night. It was about Mark Hoffman and his escapades. It was loaded with period clips of Mormons reacting to the news back then, before and after Hoffman was detected. Huge parallels to today's vaxx drama. Church leaders duped, members certain nothing is wrong,, and nefarious rascality below the surface from psychotic narcissist Hoffman, who is the SAME type of person as Bill Gates and Anthony Fauci are. The feeling was like that of "Abducted In Plain Sight". Gullible church members, all swearing on each other's credibility.

Hoffman was raised in a very orthodox Mormon home and became an Eagle Scout at 14, the same year he secretly became an atheist. He had already begun developing forging techniques for coins and documents, by then. He would have the Treasury and later the church, FBI, and some nuclear-testing lab all declare his forgeries as authentic originals. He even built a skin-resistance meter to practice passing polygraph tests. Sneaky bastard.

He relished in seeing general authorities use his forgeries as proof that the BoM was true. His ultimate goal was to forge the 116 missing pages of the BoM in Martin Harris' handwriting, which the church would have likely validated against Hoffman's other Martin Harris' forgeries, which they had bought from him.

Our Mormon weakness is that we love to suppose that we are a very righteous people. Most everyone knows the gig and takes their place on the Mormon stage, playing their part to the utmost.
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PeacefulProtests wrote: November 12th, 2021, 8:07 am
Gadianton Slayer wrote: November 12th, 2021, 7:44 am
PeacefulProtests wrote: November 12th, 2021, 7:37 am
Gadianton Slayer wrote: November 12th, 2021, 6:30 am

I mean... these types of members are literally cursed for trusting a man. They will throw themselves and their children on the altar of Moloch at the direction of a church leader with supposed authority. Blind obedience is widely accepted in the world today, and it's showing.
Its worse than that though, they aren't just trusting one man they are trusting Pfizer (paid out one of the largest criminal fines in human history and literally have ZERO liability), they are trusting Anthony Fauci (already pulled this same scam with aids, guy has an extremely sketchy track record), they are trusting the WHO ( Changed the definition of what a pandemic is in 2009 so they could pull off these pandemic scams over and over) they are trusting the CDC (conveniently changed the definition of what a vaccine is) etc etc

I mean these people do zero due diligence, they have massive cognitive dissonance so any injury they see or hear about is either completely ignored or dismissed as a coincidence. I was having a conversation about this on another thread on that board and everybody that was on that thread was blind to the fact that they were being scammed except one other guy it was unreal. When I started showing them videos that China had faked the whole Pandemic right from the beginning (dead people fake dying in the streets etc) They said that had been fact checked as false and they kicked me out of the thread lol. Can't make this stuff up
I think it’s simpler than that... they trust the Q15, who have the same intentions as Pfizer, Fauci, WHO, and the CDC. If you present a threat to the narrative you will be removed.

Cognitive dissonance is a nice way to say that some people are stupid :D
I can't speak to the intentions of the 15, but when I see Renlund for example mention "safe and effective vaccines" across the podium in General conference makes me wonder if he is intentionally lying to me or if he has just been brainwashed like a lot of the medical community has. If a guy like Ezra Taft Benson was alive today I would have a hard time seeing him going along with all of this considering a lot of his conference talks were directly speaking out against communism and the conspiracies happening in a lot of these organizations
They are complicit in evil, which showcases their intentions IMO.

Think about the FP message, saying that vaxxination is the "ONLY" way to win this "war"... it's a blatant lie. Not only are they spewing garbage about the safety and efficacy, they are ignoring information related to natural immunity and alternative solutions like Ivermectin.

Even the phrase "good global citizen" is used by government officials. They are playing straight out of the NWO handbook. See TrueFaith's thread about Oaks speaking about individualism, it's nearly identical to the CRT manual. They want a collective, unquestioning body of members, teaching in this last conference again that we must do what they say without question (see Rasband's talk).

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Gadianton Slayer wrote: November 12th, 2021, 8:20 am
PeacefulProtests wrote: November 12th, 2021, 8:07 am
Gadianton Slayer wrote: November 12th, 2021, 7:44 am
PeacefulProtests wrote: November 12th, 2021, 7:37 am

Its worse than that though, they aren't just trusting one man they are trusting Pfizer (paid out one of the largest criminal fines in human history and literally have ZERO liability), they are trusting Anthony Fauci (already pulled this same scam with aids, guy has an extremely sketchy track record), they are trusting the WHO ( Changed the definition of what a pandemic is in 2009 so they could pull off these pandemic scams over and over) they are trusting the CDC (conveniently changed the definition of what a vaccine is) etc etc

I mean these people do zero due diligence, they have massive cognitive dissonance so any injury they see or hear about is either completely ignored or dismissed as a coincidence. I was having a conversation about this on another thread on that board and everybody that was on that thread was blind to the fact that they were being scammed except one other guy it was unreal. When I started showing them videos that China had faked the whole Pandemic right from the beginning (dead people fake dying in the streets etc) They said that had been fact checked as false and they kicked me out of the thread lol. Can't make this stuff up
I think it’s simpler than that... they trust the Q15, who have the same intentions as Pfizer, Fauci, WHO, and the CDC. If you present a threat to the narrative you will be removed.

Cognitive dissonance is a nice way to say that some people are stupid :D
I can't speak to the intentions of the 15, but when I see Renlund for example mention "safe and effective vaccines" across the podium in General conference makes me wonder if he is intentionally lying to me or if he has just been brainwashed like a lot of the medical community has. If a guy like Ezra Taft Benson was alive today I would have a hard time seeing him going along with all of this considering a lot of his conference talks were directly speaking out against communism and the conspiracies happening in a lot of these organizations
They are complicit in evil, which showcases their intentions to IMO.

Think about the FP message, saying that vaxxination is the "ONLY" way to win this "war"... it's a blatant lie. Not only are they spewing garbage about the safety and efficacy, they are ignoring information related to natural immunity and alternative solutions like Ivermectin.

Even the phrase "good global citizen" is used by government officials. They are playing straight out of the NWO handbook. See TrueFaith's thread about Oaks speaking about individualism, it's nearly identical to the CRT manual. They want a collective, unquestioning body of members, teaching in this last conference again that we must do what they say without question (see Rasband's talk).
yup. they totally ignore natural immunity in that aug 13 letter.

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mudflap wrote: November 12th, 2021, 8:23 am yup. they totally ignore natural immunity in that aug 13 letter.
If they want to save lives, why intentionally avoid teaching people about something that gives stronger and longer-lasting immunity than these shots?

Because that's not what they want.

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At some point, the lies of the leaders are going to be exposed, or made undeniable, along with whatever has been fueling their lies. It's going to be Mark Hoffman times 1,000. This needs to happen. It's going to serve as an unforgettable lesson by God about trusting in man.

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Chip wrote: November 12th, 2021, 8:33 am At some point, the lies of the leaders are going to be exposed, or made undeniable, along with whatever has been fueling their lies. It's going to be Mark Hoffman times 1,000. This needs to happen. It's going to serve as an unforgettable lesson by God about trusting in man.
People will still deny it. I think are about past this point, there's not much more they could do that will sway people to either side. We will either follow or not, but the middle-ground is definitely going to be pulled out soon.

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Gadianton Slayer wrote: November 12th, 2021, 8:37 am
Chip wrote: November 12th, 2021, 8:33 am At some point, the lies of the leaders are going to be exposed, or made undeniable, along with whatever has been fueling their lies. It's going to be Mark Hoffman times 1,000. This needs to happen. It's going to serve as an unforgettable lesson by God about trusting in man.
People will still deny it. I think are about past this point, there's not much more they could do that will sway people to either side. We will either follow or not, but the middle-ground is definitely going to be pulled out soon.

If this charade carries far enough, there will be a vaxx mandate for church attendance. That would make things pretty darn simple. All the morons would go down with the ship.

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Chip wrote: November 12th, 2021, 8:43 am
Gadianton Slayer wrote: November 12th, 2021, 8:37 am
Chip wrote: November 12th, 2021, 8:33 am At some point, the lies of the leaders are going to be exposed, or made undeniable, along with whatever has been fueling their lies. It's going to be Mark Hoffman times 1,000. This needs to happen. It's going to serve as an unforgettable lesson by God about trusting in man.
People will still deny it. I think are about past this point, there's not much more they could do that will sway people to either side. We will either follow or not, but the middle-ground is definitely going to be pulled out soon.

If this charade carries far enough, there will be a vaxx mandate for church attendance. That would make things pretty darn simple. All the morons would go down with the ship.
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Chip wrote: November 12th, 2021, 8:33 am At some point, the lies of the leaders are going to be exposed, or made undeniable, along with whatever has been fueling their lies. It's going to be Mark Hoffman times 1,000. This needs to happen. It's going to serve as an unforgettable lesson by God about trusting in man.
The snake is already on the pole, so to speak, for those who will only look.

not to detract from your point, which I think is excellent on its own, but
Which will happen first,

1. MSM becomes so irrelevant that they can't afford to broadcast
2. MSM exposes the lies

I'm guessing "1". Joe Rogan is ensuring that.

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mudflap wrote: November 12th, 2021, 9:02 am
Chip wrote: November 12th, 2021, 8:33 am At some point, the lies of the leaders are going to be exposed, or made undeniable, along with whatever has been fueling their lies. It's going to be Mark Hoffman times 1,000. This needs to happen. It's going to serve as an unforgettable lesson by God about trusting in man.
The snake is already on the pole, so to speak, for those who will only look.

not to detract from your point, which I think is excellent on its own, but
Which will happen first,

1. MSM becomes so irrelevant that they can't afford to broadcast
2. MSM exposes the lies

I'm guessing "1". Joe Rogan is ensuring that.

That is kind of what Mark Taylor, the Trump-prophecy guy said would happen. It can't happen soon enough.

It occurred to me this morning that In people like Mark Hoffman, Bill Gates, and Anthony Fauci, the church truly meets its equal. They are all ambitious liars who don't mind casualties. And they're huge gaslighters.

"Deceivers will wax worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived."

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Chip wrote: November 12th, 2021, 8:33 am At some point, the lies of the leaders are going to be exposed, or made undeniable, along with whatever has been fueling their lies. It's going to be Mark Hoffman times 1,000. This needs to happen. It's going to serve as an unforgettable lesson by God about trusting in man.
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mudflap wrote: November 12th, 2021, 9:02 am
Chip wrote: November 12th, 2021, 8:33 am At some point, the lies of the leaders are going to be exposed, or made undeniable, along with whatever has been fueling their lies. It's going to be Mark Hoffman times 1,000. This needs to happen. It's going to serve as an unforgettable lesson by God about trusting in man.
The snake is already on the pole, so to speak, for those who will only look.

not to detract from your point, which I think is excellent on its own, but
Which will happen first,

1. MSM becomes so irrelevant that they can't afford to broadcast
2. MSM exposes the lies

I'm guessing "1". Joe Rogan is ensuring that.

Look like CNN is going to cut their personality roster:

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/cnn ... or-shakeup
But according to Jon Nicosia - former Mediaite and IJR managing editor (and former breaking news editor at the DC Examiner) - CNN is going to revert to a 100% news channel, and a "good number" of CNN's "talent/staff" will be fired as part of a major shakeup.

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mudflap wrote: November 12th, 2021, 8:17 am you know....

this "safe and effective" nonsense is not holding up.

In mathematics (discrete math), we talk about tautologies: statements that are true in every situation. like....
all rabbits hop
if you find me a situation where a rabbit doesn't hop (a rabbit with a broken leg), then
all rabbits hop
isn't true anymore.

Same with
safe and effective
if I find just one case where the vaccine was proven "not safe" or "not effective", then the entire statement
safe and effective
isn't true anymore.

I think we need less lawyers and Rockefeller doctors on the Q15 team, and more mathematicians....., but it will probably work itself out at this point with the "safe and effective" vaccines....
Unless you believe in racial cleansing and eugenics. Then it could qualify as safe and effective if that is your purpose. It may be safe and effective in getting rid of anyone who would not be of use to the NWO.

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PeacefulProtests wrote: November 11th, 2021, 9:48 pm I saw on another message board that a poster had singled out this post as well as a few others as having a disgusting and dangerous mindset to be talking about these "conspiracy theories"

Now I have personally seen family members and friends get injured from this vaccine, some worse than others, and I'm just one person. If this vaccine was "Safe and effect" like the church and so many other "experts" claim then it would be statistically improbable for me to know one injured person let alone multiple people. So to call this a disgusting and dangerous mindset is honestly offensive, the cognitive dissonance is just unreal, I've never seen anything like this. Its not a conspiracy theory when I am literally seeing it happen in front of my eyes

https://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/74 ... 1210062510
I'm sweeping with a broad brush here and my generalisation likely doesn't characterise all of them, but from what I've generally seen of MormonDialogue is that they are basically mormon NPC's. Background-characters, in the metaphorical video game that we call the Plan of Salvation, who are married to the worldly mainstream narrative which they take for a touchstone, proper grim.

LDSFF, with all us weirdos, have so much more value to offer, than sterile places for sterile people like mormondialogue. Plenty of falsehood here, but also plenty of truth. Which is truly a rare and precious thing in our day, for those with eyes to see it.

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abijah` wrote: November 13th, 2021, 3:07 am
PeacefulProtests wrote: November 11th, 2021, 9:48 pm I saw on another message board that a poster had singled out this post as well as a few others as having a disgusting and dangerous mindset to be talking about these "conspiracy theories"

Now I have personally seen family members and friends get injured from this vaccine, some worse than others, and I'm just one person. If this vaccine was "Safe and effect" like the church and so many other "experts" claim then it would be statistically improbable for me to know one injured person let alone multiple people. So to call this a disgusting and dangerous mindset is honestly offensive, the cognitive dissonance is just unreal, I've never seen anything like this. Its not a conspiracy theory when I am literally seeing it happen in front of my eyes

https://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/74 ... 1210062510
I'm sweeping with a broad brush here and my generalisation likely doesn't characterise all of them, but from what I've generally seen of MormonDialogue is that they are basically mormon NPC's. Background-characters, in the metaphorical video game that we call the Plan of Salvation, who are married to the worldly mainstream narrative which they take for a touchstone, proper grim.

LDSFF, with all us weirdos, have so much more value to offer, than sterile places for sterile people like mormondialogue. Plenty of falsehood here, but also plenty of truth. Which is truly a rare and precious thing in our day, for those with eyes to see it.
Just looking at the comments; looks like their site consists of Samizdat, FranklinBluth, Subcommandante, and clones

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mudflap wrote: November 12th, 2021, 9:02 am The snake is already on the pole, so to speak, for those who will only look.

not to detract from your point, which I think is excellent on its own, but
Which will happen first,

1. MSM becomes so irrelevant that they can't afford to broadcast
That has already been happening, although they have been working hard to stop that. The BBC which has a compulsory licence fee (if you have a TV) is being overtaken by YouTube here, so YouTube adopted a model where BBC content is prioritised (or whatever the local propaganda networks are e.g. CNN/MSNBC) and independent content deprioritised or censored.

The internet and streaming services were killing off broadcast TV, so the internet has been more or less reduced to one search engine (Google), and a handful of "fact checked" websites (social media etc)

I find it ironic when I go online and see a big list of mainstream news outlets in the "news" section and the big broadcasters publicised all over YouTube. If I wanted to look at either of these (and I do occasionally), I would go directly to them instead of being directed to them.

So they do keep becoming irrelevant, but they are being artificially resuscitated.

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