What do you guys know about hiding sexual abuse in the LDS church?

[Niemand]

The other obvious case is with the former MTC president confessing on tape to sexually assaulting sister missionaries. One wonders how often this kind of thing has occurred. I give most of them benefit of the doubt, but probably more often than we've heard of. I'm excluding false accusations of course.

[zhang_daqian]

The LDS clergy is molesting the LDS children it seems to be. Apostle is the highest clergy position? So the man in the video said the whole of Utah are covering it up and the LDS are like the Catholics and Jehovahs witness then. I don't think I can let my family join if this is true. Did the boy prophet Joseph do this once he was older? What about the larger man who came after him?

Like all places, some people are good and some bad. Some are good in the church and some are bad. Some are wolves in sheep's clothing and some are sheep and there are a few shepherds. If you are a believing man, I would pray and ask if it is right - or whether to give them the decision or not and just have your family realize there are some dangers - but in today's world, there are dangers everywhere - including other denominations and non-denominational churches, because wolves like to eat sheep. However, just because there are wolves doesn't mean we don't go out to eat grass. A community of believers is important and being baptized unto repentance is important. Most importantly baptism is not solely to get into an organization, it's purpose is to give up your life to bear the Lord's name. To give up your old life of sin and to take upon ourselves the rightoeusness of Christ and to let His grace change us into His image. If they haven't had a chance to be baptized yet with that purpose in their heart, I would at least let them try and seek someone to obtain that, because that act can be a blessing as well as communicating among other believers. A society that is truly seeking Christ together is a beautiful society.

2 Nephi 31:13 Wherefore, my beloved brethren, I know that if ye shall follow the Son, with full purpose of heart, acting no hypocrisy and no deception before God, but with real intent, repenting of your sins, witnessing unto the Father that ye are willing to take upon you the name of Christ, by baptism—yea, by following your Lord and your Savior down into the water, according to his word, behold, then shall ye receive the Holy Ghost; yea, then cometh the baptism of fire and of the Holy Ghost; and then can ye speak with the tongue of angels, and shout praises unto the Holy One of Israel.

Matthew 28:19

“Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:”

Baptism is the symbol of death in our old ways and life in a new way, accepting Christ, but living as if our past is dead. It is the first sign of repentance (turning towards God) when one desires to be baptized they are showing they truly desire to accept the mercy of hte Lord and live a new life, bearing/carrying the name of the Lord to others, so that when others see them, they also see Christ in them.

As an aside, the church will not save your family, only Christ, but baptism is an important part of becoming a part of the body of Christ if they are able to do so. Good luck in your decisions!

Yes we know the ceremony of baptism. Jesus was baptized by John in Jordan and after in the holy book of the acts of the apostles the apostles baptize also. We have already received it but we do not believe that it was the right one.

I know Nephi now as well, he's in the book of mormon and is a holy man maybe. Alma is certainly a holy man but if your cite from him teaches baptism in the name of the trinity maybe Nephi is also. I do not know yet. But when I read Alma I knew from his words that he knew about the resurrections.

[Robin Hood]

The other obvious case is with the former MTC president confessing on tape to sexually assaulting sister missionaries. One wonders how often this kind of thing has occurred. I give most of them benefit of the doubt, but probably more often than we've heard of. I'm excluding false accusations of course.

Thing is, he didn't confess to anything on tape. Have you heard it?
It turns out that this story is likely untrue and the accuser has got previous for something similar.

[Gadianton Slayer]

This video is SHOCKING - is it real?

I believe so. Think through the logic that Ron presents...

If this was made up, why hasn't the church sued him for defamation? This video has over 200k views. Just like in his story, they won't pursue it and would rather let him due his thing, because it's true.

[Gadianton Slayer]

The other obvious case is with the former MTC president confessing on tape to sexually assaulting sister missionaries. One wonders how often this kind of thing has occurred. I give most of them benefit of the doubt, but probably more often than we've heard of. I'm excluding false accusations of course.

Thing is, he didn't confess to anything on tape. Have you heard it?
It turns out that this story is likely untrue and the accuser has got previous for something similar.

He denies nothing.

Why were there no repercussions for the woman threatening his life with a gun?

[Robin Hood]

The other obvious case is with the former MTC president confessing on tape to sexually assaulting sister missionaries. One wonders how often this kind of thing has occurred. I give most of them benefit of the doubt, but probably more often than we've heard of. I'm excluding false accusations of course.

Thing is, he didn't confess to anything on tape. Have you heard it?
It turns out that this story is likely untrue and the accuser has got previous for something similar.

He denies nothing.

Why were there no repercussions for the woman threatening his life with a gun?

If you listen to the recording it's clear he doesn't really have a clue who she is or what she's talking about. He's an old man with fading memories and simply apologises in the face of this angry woman who says he did something wrong that he can't remember.
If you follow the story through you will discover that the woman is a certified nut case and has made accusations like this against men more than once.

[Gadianton Slayer]

The other obvious case is with the former MTC president confessing on tape to sexually assaulting sister missionaries. One wonders how often this kind of thing has occurred. I give most of them benefit of the doubt, but probably more often than we've heard of. I'm excluding false accusations of course.

Thing is, he didn't confess to anything on tape. Have you heard it?
It turns out that this story is likely untrue and the accuser has got previous for something similar.

He denies nothing.

Why were there no repercussions for the woman threatening his life with a gun?

If you listen to the recording it's clear he doesn't really have a clue who she is or what she's talking about. He's an old man with fading memories and simply apologises in the face of this angry woman who says he did something wrong that he can't remember.
If you follow the story through you will discover that the woman is a certified nut case and has made accusations like this against men more than once.

You can feel that way.

Do you believe she ever threatened his life at all? Or was the entire account made up?

[Niemand]

The other obvious case is with the former MTC president confessing on tape to sexually assaulting sister missionaries. One wonders how often this kind of thing has occurred. I give most of them benefit of the doubt, but probably more often than we've heard of. I'm excluding false accusations of course.

Thing is, he didn't confess to anything on tape. Have you heard it?
It turns out that this story is likely untrue and the accuser has got previous for something similar.

I'm maybe getting false memory syndrome myself here, but I seem to recall he did 'fess up to something and even apologised.

[Robin Hood]

Thing is, he didn't confess to anything on tape. Have you heard it?
It turns out that this story is likely untrue and the accuser has got previous for something similar.

He denies nothing.

Why were there no repercussions for the woman threatening his life with a gun?

If you listen to the recording it's clear he doesn't really have a clue who she is or what she's talking about. He's an old man with fading memories and simply apologises in the face of this angry woman who says he did something wrong that he can't remember.
If you follow the story through you will discover that the woman is a certified nut case and has made accusations like this against men more than once.

You can feel that way.

Do you believe she ever threatened his life at all? Or was the entire account made up?

It's nothing to do with feeling any particular way. The facts are the facts.
Like I said, she's a sandwich short of a picnic.

[Gadianton Slayer]

He denies nothing.

Why were there no repercussions for the woman threatening his life with a gun?

If you listen to the recording it's clear he doesn't really have a clue who she is or what she's talking about. He's an old man with fading memories and simply apologises in the face of this angry woman who says he did something wrong that he can't remember.
If you follow the story through you will discover that the woman is a certified nut case and has made accusations like this against men more than once.

You can feel that way.

Do you believe she ever threatened his life at all? Or was the entire account made up?

It's nothing to do with feeling any particular way. The facts are the facts.
Like I said, she's a sandwich short of a picnic.

Yeah. That's why I wouldn't place bets on any of these individual circumstances... but collectively? Something is going on.

It's a serious question I have, if Ron Karren's video and accusations are wrong... why hasn't the church attempted to sue him for defamation? It has reached a lot of people. Why haven't they made any statements to deny such accusations? They don't want to draw attention to it, just like Nelson wanted the attention off of his daughter.

These are the connections I have to make. As I said, it is scriptural. If this isn't the whoredom and abomination then what is?

[zhang_daqian]

The LDS clergy is molesting the LDS children it seems to be. Apostle is the highest clergy position? So the man in the video said the whole of Utah are covering it up and the LDS are like the Catholics and Jehovahs witness then. I don't think I can let my family join if this is true. Did the boy prophet Joseph do this once he was older? What about the larger man who came after him?

The LDS Church only has full time paid ‘clergy’ at the highest levels. About 110 men in total. All local leadership - the men who conduct weekly worship services - are unpaid volunteers.

There is zero evidence - none - of any of the full time leaders of the Church being involved in the sexual abuse of children. It would be all over every newspaper in the world if there was even a hint of truth in that accusation.

The board post of Gadianton Slayer in the video the man said doctors were telling him that some of the apostles were molesting. Is that man a liar? Why don't the LDS know? Do the congregation members talk about their leaders to see if they are good or not? Yes we do not believe in paying money for ceremonies b/c of what the bible teaches. Do the full time clergy get paid for ceremonies or something else?

[Robin Hood]

If you listen to the recording it's clear he doesn't really have a clue who she is or what she's talking about. He's an old man with fading memories and simply apologises in the face of this angry woman who says he did something wrong that he can't remember.
If you follow the story through you will discover that the woman is a certified nut case and has made accusations like this against men more than once.

You can feel that way.

Do you believe she ever threatened his life at all? Or was the entire account made up?

It's nothing to do with feeling any particular way. The facts are the facts.
Like I said, she's a sandwich short of a picnic.

Yeah. That's why I wouldn't place bets on any of these individual circumstances... but collectively? Something is going on.

It's a serious question I have, if Ron Karren's video and accusations are wrong... why hasn't the church attempted to sue him for defamation? It has reached a lot of people. Why haven't they made any statements to deny such accusations? They don't want to draw attention to it, just like Nelson wanted the attention off of his daughter.

These are the connections I have to make. As I said, it is scriptural. If this isn't the whoredom and abomination then what is?

For the same reason the church doesn't sue apostates or anti's. The attitude is to let them do their worst, have their time in the sun, and then it all blows over and nobody remembers it.
But surely you can see the flaw in your reasoning... the church's failure to give credibility to the accusation by sueing the accuser is interpreted by you as guilt.
Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? The onus is not on the church to prove innocence.

[Robin Hood]

The LDS clergy is molesting the LDS children it seems to be. Apostle is the highest clergy position? So the man in the video said the whole of Utah are covering it up and the LDS are like the Catholics and Jehovahs witness then. I don't think I can let my family join if this is true. Did the boy prophet Joseph do this once he was older? What about the larger man who came after him?

The LDS Church only has full time paid ‘clergy’ at the highest levels. About 110 men in total. All local leadership - the men who conduct weekly worship services - are unpaid volunteers.

There is zero evidence - none - of any of the full time leaders of the Church being involved in the sexual abuse of children. It would be all over every newspaper in the world if there was even a hint of truth in that accusation.

The board post of Gadianton Slayer in the video the man said doctors were telling him that some of the apostles were molesting. Is that man a liar? Why don't the LDS know? Do the congregation members talk about their leaders to see if they are good or not? Yes we do not believe in paying money for ceremonies b/c of what the bible teaches. Do the full time clergy get paid for ceremonies or something else?

Yes, I would say the man is probably a liar.
At best it's hearsay.

[Gadianton Slayer]

You can feel that way.

Do you believe she ever threatened his life at all? Or was the entire account made up?

It's nothing to do with feeling any particular way. The facts are the facts.
Like I said, she's a sandwich short of a picnic.

Yeah. That's why I wouldn't place bets on any of these individual circumstances... but collectively? Something is going on.

It's a serious question I have, if Ron Karren's video and accusations are wrong... why hasn't the church attempted to sue him for defamation? It has reached a lot of people. Why haven't they made any statements to deny such accusations? They don't want to draw attention to it, just like Nelson wanted the attention off of his daughter.

These are the connections I have to make. As I said, it is scriptural. If this isn't the whoredom and abomination then what is?

For the same reason the church doesn't sue apostates or anti's. The attitude is to let them do their worst, have their time in the sun, and then it all blows over and nobody remembers it.
But surely you can see the flaw in your reasoning... the church's failure to give credibility to the accusation by sueing the accuser is interpreted by you as guilt.
Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? The onus is not on the church to prove innocence.

It comes down to this... you don't see that the church is actively trying to hide, not just ignore, sexual abuse. I believe that they are.

A friend of mine had a YW come to him as a bishop and tell him that her father was abusing her. This bishop brought the father in and asked him a few questions, never accusing the man. This father is a wealthy and influential member in the area. The bishop is then contacted by an area 70 who begins to question him about his meeting with the father, ultimately being very unkind. Word gets around, and the verbal abuse from members in his area gets bad enough that he decides to move his family. He received his excommunication letter on the way out the door, no church court. This is in SW Idaho.

Instances like this may seem insignificant to some, but I don't think so.

[Gadianton Slayer]

I don't believe in "coincidences", especially not hundreds and thousands of them.

[Robin Hood]

It's nothing to do with feeling any particular way. The facts are the facts.
Like I said, she's a sandwich short of a picnic.

Yeah. That's why I wouldn't place bets on any of these individual circumstances... but collectively? Something is going on.

It's a serious question I have, if Ron Karren's video and accusations are wrong... why hasn't the church attempted to sue him for defamation? It has reached a lot of people. Why haven't they made any statements to deny such accusations? They don't want to draw attention to it, just like Nelson wanted the attention off of his daughter.

These are the connections I have to make. As I said, it is scriptural. If this isn't the whoredom and abomination then what is?

For the same reason the church doesn't sue apostates or anti's. The attitude is to let them do their worst, have their time in the sun, and then it all blows over and nobody remembers it.
But surely you can see the flaw in your reasoning... the church's failure to give credibility to the accusation by sueing the accuser is interpreted by you as guilt.
Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? The onus is not on the church to prove innocence.

It comes down to this... you don't see that the church is actively trying to hide, not just ignore, sexual abuse. I believe that they are.

A friend of mine had a YW come to him as a bishop and tell him that her father was abusing her. This bishop brought the father in and asked him a few questions, never accusing the man. This father is a wealthy and influential member in the area. The bishop is then contacted by an area 70 who begins to question him about his meeting with the father, ultimately being very unkind. Word gets around, and the verbal abuse from members in his area gets bad enough that he decides to move his family. He received his excommunication letter on the way out the door, no church court. This is in SW Idaho.

Instances like this may seem insignificant to some, but I don't think so.

Again, lots of hearsay. You don't really know who said what to who. You don't know anything really, only what you've been told.
These stories are ten a penny.

I have a relative who's daughter went to her bishop and told him her father was sexually abusing her. She repeated the allegation to the authorities and was taken into care. The father, who denied it all, was investigated by the police. The daughter went into foster care. The father was released from his callings etc, but the police eventually dropped all charges for lack of evidence.
Years later the daughter admitted she made the whole thing up.
Don't be so easily taken in.

[zhang_daqian]

The LDS clergy is molesting the LDS children it seems to be. Apostle is the highest clergy position? So the man in the video said the whole of Utah are covering it up and the LDS are like the Catholics and Jehovahs witness then. I don't think I can let my family join if this is true. Did the boy prophet Joseph do this once he was older? What about the larger man who came after him?

The LDS Church only has full time paid ‘clergy’ at the highest levels. About 110 men in total. All local leadership - the men who conduct weekly worship services - are unpaid volunteers.

There is zero evidence - none - of any of the full time leaders of the Church being involved in the sexual abuse of children. It would be all over every newspaper in the world if there was even a hint of truth in that accusation.

The board post of Gadianton Slayer in the video the man said doctors were telling him that some of the apostles were molesting. Is that man a liar? Why don't the LDS know? Do the congregation members talk about their leaders to see if they are good or not? Yes we do not believe in paying money for ceremonies b/c of what the bible teaches. Do the full time clergy get paid for ceremonies or something else?

Yes, I would say the man is probably a liar.
At best it's hearsay.

The congregation members do not know the man? The church has grown so big so you can't speak to him if he is in Utah or ask the apostles? We can't tell if there is dark ceremonies in the LDS or not. Does anyone on this board practice them or know those who do? In China some practice openly or everyone knows but the government is ok to let them.

[Gadianton Slayer]

Yeah. That's why I wouldn't place bets on any of these individual circumstances... but collectively? Something is going on.

It's a serious question I have, if Ron Karren's video and accusations are wrong... why hasn't the church attempted to sue him for defamation? It has reached a lot of people. Why haven't they made any statements to deny such accusations? They don't want to draw attention to it, just like Nelson wanted the attention off of his daughter.

These are the connections I have to make. As I said, it is scriptural. If this isn't the whoredom and abomination then what is?

For the same reason the church doesn't sue apostates or anti's. The attitude is to let them do their worst, have their time in the sun, and then it all blows over and nobody remembers it.
But surely you can see the flaw in your reasoning... the church's failure to give credibility to the accusation by sueing the accuser is interpreted by you as guilt.
Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? The onus is not on the church to prove innocence.

It comes down to this... you don't see that the church is actively trying to hide, not just ignore, sexual abuse. I believe that they are.

A friend of mine had a YW come to him as a bishop and tell him that her father was abusing her. This bishop brought the father in and asked him a few questions, never accusing the man. This father is a wealthy and influential member in the area. The bishop is then contacted by an area 70 who begins to question him about his meeting with the father, ultimately being very unkind. Word gets around, and the verbal abuse from members in his area gets bad enough that he decides to move his family. He received his excommunication letter on the way out the door, no church court. This is in SW Idaho.

Instances like this may seem insignificant to some, but I don't think so.

Again, lots of hearsay. You don't really know who said what to who. You don't know anything really, only what you've been told.
These stories are ten a penny.

I have a relative who's daughter went to her bishop and told him her father was sexually abusing her. She repeated the allegation to the authorities and was taken into care. The father, who denied it all, was investigated by the police. The daughter went into foster care. The father was released from his callings etc, but the police eventually dropped all charges for lack of evidence.
Years later the daughter admitted she made the whole thing up.
Don't be so easily taken in.

I don't think my point was made, I don't care so much about the accusation but the REACTION of the area 70.

Real or not, they are hiding it and shaming members into compliance. If it was all a lie, why excommunicate my friend over it?

[zhang_daqian]

The other obvious case is with the former MTC president confessing on tape to sexually assaulting sister missionaries. One wonders how often this kind of thing has occurred. I give most of them benefit of the doubt, but probably more often than we've heard of. I'm excluding false accusations of course.

MTC president is clergy? If he was on tape did he go to jail?

[Robin Hood]

For the same reason the church doesn't sue apostates or anti's. The attitude is to let them do their worst, have their time in the sun, and then it all blows over and nobody remembers it.
But surely you can see the flaw in your reasoning... the church's failure to give credibility to the accusation by sueing the accuser is interpreted by you as guilt.
Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? The onus is not on the church to prove innocence.

It comes down to this... you don't see that the church is actively trying to hide, not just ignore, sexual abuse. I believe that they are.

A friend of mine had a YW come to him as a bishop and tell him that her father was abusing her. This bishop brought the father in and asked him a few questions, never accusing the man. This father is a wealthy and influential member in the area. The bishop is then contacted by an area 70 who begins to question him about his meeting with the father, ultimately being very unkind. Word gets around, and the verbal abuse from members in his area gets bad enough that he decides to move his family. He received his excommunication letter on the way out the door, no church court. This is in SW Idaho.

Instances like this may seem insignificant to some, but I don't think so.

Again, lots of hearsay. You don't really know who said what to who. You don't know anything really, only what you've been told.
These stories are ten a penny.

I have a relative who's daughter went to her bishop and told him her father was sexually abusing her. She repeated the allegation to the authorities and was taken into care. The father, who denied it all, was investigated by the police. The daughter went into foster care. The father was released from his callings etc, but the police eventually dropped all charges for lack of evidence.
Years later the daughter admitted she made the whole thing up.
Don't be so easily taken in.

I don't think my point was made, I don't care so much about the accusation but the REACTION of the area 70.

Real or not, they are hiding it and shaming members into compliance. If it was all a lie, why excommunicate my friend over it?

Firstly, you don't know what the reaction of the Area Seventy was... you weren't there, so you have no idea. You have the word of your friend, or perhaps the friend of a friend etc. Who knows how many hands the story passed through!
There was a story here on LDSFF about a situation/excommunication just the other day. I checked out the story because I figured out I knew who it was about. I spoke directly with the person and got the real story, not the one presented on here. But of course even then I only got my friends side of the story, not the church's. So even though I got to the source of the story I only heard one side. There are always two sides.... always!

What you do appear to have is an eagerness to believe anything that paints the church, or in this case the Seventy, (preferably both) in a poor light.
You guys inherited the principle of innocent until proven guilty from English law, I suggest it should be deployed more often.

[Robin Hood]

I don't believe in "coincidences", especially not hundreds and thousands of them.

"Hundreds and thousands of them". Well, which is it... are there hundreds or are there thousands?
Or was it just a form of words calculated to make it sound like a lot when you really have no idea how many, if any, for sure?

[Gadianton Slayer]

It comes down to this... you don't see that the church is actively trying to hide, not just ignore, sexual abuse. I believe that they are.

A friend of mine had a YW come to him as a bishop and tell him that her father was abusing her. This bishop brought the father in and asked him a few questions, never accusing the man. This father is a wealthy and influential member in the area. The bishop is then contacted by an area 70 who begins to question him about his meeting with the father, ultimately being very unkind. Word gets around, and the verbal abuse from members in his area gets bad enough that he decides to move his family. He received his excommunication letter on the way out the door, no church court. This is in SW Idaho.

Instances like this may seem insignificant to some, but I don't think so.

Again, lots of hearsay. You don't really know who said what to who. You don't know anything really, only what you've been told.
These stories are ten a penny.

I have a relative who's daughter went to her bishop and told him her father was sexually abusing her. She repeated the allegation to the authorities and was taken into care. The father, who denied it all, was investigated by the police. The daughter went into foster care. The father was released from his callings etc, but the police eventually dropped all charges for lack of evidence.
Years later the daughter admitted she made the whole thing up.
Don't be so easily taken in.

I don't think my point was made, I don't care so much about the accusation but the REACTION of the area 70.

Real or not, they are hiding it and shaming members into compliance. If it was all a lie, why excommunicate my friend over it?

Firstly, you don't know what the reaction of the Area Seventy was... you weren't there, so you have no idea. You have the word of your friend, or perhaps the friend of a friend etc. Who knows how many hands the story passed through!
There was a story here on LDSFF about a situation/excommunication just the other day. I checked out the story because I figured out I knew who it was about. I spoke directly with the person and got the real story, not the one presented on here. But of course even then I only got my friends side of the story, not the church's. So even though I got to the source of the story I only heard one side. There are always two sides.... always!

What you do appear to have is an eagerness to believe anything that paints the church, or in this case the Seventy, (preferably both) in a poor light.
You guys inherited the principle of innocent until proven guilty from English law, I suggest it should be deployed more often.

I see just as much eagerness to defend the church no matter what happens. There are false accusations against the church, that doesn't mean that none of this exists and is simply a fairy tale from bitter "critics".

When it comes down to my friend vs. a church leader, I am inclined to believe the friend. I personally see that the brethren have been proven to be liars, both in regard to church history and their involvement in this covid scheme. I don't believe ignorance is a viable option whatsoever.

[Luke]

This is worth a read:

https://www.restoreourhumanity.org/files/ABlipHere.pdf

[Gadianton Slayer]

I don't believe in "coincidences", especially not hundreds and thousands of them.

"Hundreds and thousands of them". Well, which is it... are there hundreds or are there thousands?
Or was it just a form of words calculated to make it sound like a lot when you really have no idea how many, if any, for sure?

There are hundreds of these accusations, take a gander through the link in the OP. I think it's safe to assume that the ones reported don't make up all of the actual situations, likely only a fraction. These people have an imposing male figure, supposedly holding their salvation in his hands, who abuses them and demands that they remain quiet. How many will speak up?

If you don't want to believe any of this RH that's fine.

[Niemand]

Yeah. That's why I wouldn't place bets on any of these individual circumstances... but collectively? Something is going on.

It's a serious question I have, if Ron Karren's video and accusations are wrong... why hasn't the church attempted to sue him for defamation? It has reached a lot of people. Why haven't they made any statements to deny such accusations? They don't want to draw attention to it, just like Nelson wanted the attention off of his daughter.

These are the connections I have to make. As I said, it is scriptural. If this isn't the whoredom and abomination then what is?

For the same reason the church doesn't sue apostates or anti's. The attitude is to let them do their worst, have their time in the sun, and then it all blows over and nobody remembers it.
But surely you can see the flaw in your reasoning... the church's failure to give credibility to the accusation by sueing the accuser is interpreted by you as guilt.
Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? The onus is not on the church to prove innocence.

It comes down to this... you don't see that the church is actively trying to hide, not just ignore, sexual abuse. I believe that they are.

A friend of mine had a YW come to him as a bishop and tell him that her father was abusing her. This bishop brought the father in and asked him a few questions, never accusing the man. This father is a wealthy and influential member in the area. The bishop is then contacted by an area 70 who begins to question him about his meeting with the father, ultimately being very unkind. Word gets around, and the verbal abuse from members in his area gets bad enough that he decides to move his family. He received his excommunication letter on the way out the door, no church court. This is in SW Idaho.

Instances like this may seem insignificant to some, but I don't think so.

Again, lots of hearsay. You don't really know who said what to who. You don't know anything really, only what you've been told.
These stories are ten a penny.

I have a relative who's daughter went to her bishop and told him her father was sexually abusing her. She repeated the allegation to the authorities and was taken into care. The father, who denied it all, was investigated by the police. The daughter went into foster care. The father was released from his callings etc, but the police eventually dropped all charges for lack of evidence.
Years later the daughter admitted she made the whole thing up.
Don't be so easily taken in.

Rape and abuse is a Catch 22. A lot of false accusations and a lot of people who can't prove real events. I know we had a case in Scotland of someone who admitted to being sexually attracted to children - no, I don't know the name - but at least the person acknowledged it instead of becoming a predator.

I've known a number of people who were sexually assaulted who never reported it. Some would argue that by doing so they allow it continue. In real cases it's distressing to report and hard to prove, especially some time after.

I've heard a lot about this problem with boarding schools where it was rife. In some cases the schools would just sack/fire the man in question who would go off and work somewhere else and start again.

We have had a big problem with high level abuse in the UK, but haven't heard much about it in the LDS. I suppose every time you have large numbers of children, trusting people, authority figures and other vulnerable, it will attract these types.

I'm glad the church does require other people in the building when a bishop is interviewing women etc. It's better for both parties.