WTH - Mother of Loudoun County Bathroom Rapist Blames Victim: 'You're 15. You Can Reasonably Defend Yourself'

[Gadianton Slayer]

Some people...

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/landonmio ... f-n2598458

The mother of the skirt-wearing boy, who was convicted of raping a ninth-grade girl in a Loudoun County school restroom, said Monday that the victim was to blame for being assaulted because she did not make stronger attempts to defend herself.

The boy's mother said in an interview that her son, who last week was found guilty on two counts of rape, was not transgender despite reports alleging that he was. She said he just likes to wear skirts sometimes.

But she also defended her son's actions pertaining to the sexual assault, falsely alleging that, at the time of the May 28 assault, he "wanted to have sex in the bathroom, with somebody that was willing."

The mother then proceeded to blame the victim for not doing more to fight off her rapist.

"If I was in a position where I was about to be raped, I would be screaming, kicking, everything," she told the Daily Mail. "You're 15. You can reasonably defend yourself. You're not just going to sit there and take it. And so, because there wasn't a presence of a fight, he felt it was okay to keep going."

The assault in question received national attention after The Daily Wire reported that the victim's father, Scott Smith, showed up to a June 22 school board meeting and accused the Loudoun County School district of trying to cover up his daughter's rape. He was arrested and ultimately charged with disorderly conduct and resisting arrest following an altercation with a woman at the meeting who said she doubted the validity of his daughter's sexual assault.

The school district's superintendent said at this board meeting that "the predator transgender student or person simply does not exist," and, to his knowledge, "we don’t have any record of assaults occurring in our restrooms."

But in an email from May 28, the day of the assault, the superintendent alerted school board members that a sexual assault had been reported.

Virginia gubernatorial candidate Glenn Youngkin (R) called for the resignations of the county's school board members last month after the email proved the school board was aware of the sexual assault.

"People who have not resigned, I don't understand how they can possibly go into their next school board meeting," he said. "How can they go into their next school board meeting and be expected to sit there and represent our kids' future when they covered this up?"

[Gadianton Slayer]

She looks very reasonable and intelligent.

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[Durzan]

While it is reasonable to assume the potential of someone to defend themselves, it is not reasonable to expect most people to do it, nor is it reasonable to blame a crime on the victim NOT trying to defend themselves. This is because of an INSTINCTUAL human response known as the fight/flight/freeze response, in which the person may subconsiously attempt to freeze (to avoid notice), flee (to escape the situation), or fight in order to ensure the preservation of their life. However, the fight response is the least often response that is triggered overall, presumably due to the fact that engaging in combat is by far the riskiest option of the three and will almost assuredly risk harm to ones self while the other two options can practically guarantee a relative lack of harm in comparision if it proves successful.

[Gadianton Slayer]

While it is reasonable to assume the potential of someone to defend themselves, it is not reasonable to expect most people to do it, nor is it reasonable to blame a crime on the victim NOT trying to defend themselves. This is because of an INSTINCTUAL human response known as the fight/flight/freeze response, in which the person may subconsiously attempt to freeze (to avoid notice), flee (to escape the situation), or fight in order to ensure the preservation of their life. However, the fight response is the least often response that is triggered overall, presumably due to the fact that engaging in combat is by far the riskiest option of the three and will almost assuredly risk harm to ones self while the other two options can practically guarantee a relative lack of harm in comparision if it proves successful.

I agree. The things people will justify today are absolutely sickening. It makes me incredibly sad, to see how low people have come.

[Jason]

Its also reasonable to take the boy out behind the woodshed and put a few cents of lead into him because he's a menace to society...arrange the judgement meeting...

[Durzan]

Its also reasonable to take the boy out behind the woodshed and put a few cents of lead into him because he's a menace to society...arrange the judgement meeting...

Ehhh... no not really.

One (admittedly horrible crime with one person as the victim) is not objectively equivalent to being a "menace to society." Also, rape =/= murder, so the punishment for the individual in question shouldn't be death.

I honestly don't think a person's life should be taken except POSSIBLY in cases where lives have physically been lost. Since the victim not only survived and has the potential to recover and live a happy life, the Rapist's life shouldn't be forfeit... though he still deserves to spend a lot of time rotting in jail. Killing this man will not bring the girl or anyone else peace, and furthermore, it ends any possible chance of the rapist being able to reform themselves or do ANY good down the line.

Note: I'm am speaking with cold unfeeling logic right now.

[Jason]

Its also reasonable to take the boy out behind the woodshed and put a few cents of lead into him because he's a menace to society...arrange the judgement meeting...

Ehhh... no not really.

One (admittedly horrible crime with one person as the victim) is not objectively equivalent to being a "menace to society." Also, rape =/= murder, so the punishment for the individual in question shouldn't be death.

I honestly don't think a person's life should be taken except POSSIBLY in cases where lives have physically been lost. Since the victim not only survived and has the potential to recover and live a happy life, the Rapist's life shouldn't be forfeit... though he still deserves to spend a lot of time rotting in jail. Killing this man will not bring the girl or anyone else peace, and furthermore, it ends any possible chance of the rapist being able to reform themselves or do ANY good down the line.

Note: I'm am speaking with cold unfeeling logic right now.

everyone has an opinion...and amen on the cold unfeeling logic...

of course if you want to personally support the kid while he's rotting in jail learning new skills with a slice of your economic pie...more power to you...and remember that slice has to not only cover the kid...but the jail itself...the guards...laundry...cooks...etc...

sometimes for the benefit of society as a whole...you pass the problem back to the Creator so He can manage it as He sees fit...

fyi...that's not his only victim...and with a mom like that...probably not his last...

[EmmaLee]

Its also reasonable to take the boy out behind the woodshed and put a few cents of lead into him because he's a menace to society...arrange the judgement meeting...

Ehhh... no not really. One (admittedly horrible crime with one person as the victim) is not objectively equivalent to being a "menace to society." Also, rape =/= murder, so the punishment for the individual in question shouldn't be death. I honestly don't think a person's life should be taken except POSSIBLY in cases where lives have physically been lost. Since the victim not only survived and has the potential to recover and live a happy life, the Rapist's life shouldn't be forfeit... though he still deserves to spend a lot of time in jail.

Hope you never get raped, Durzan - your tune might change a little. The reason actual rape is so bad and should be equal with murder on the judgement scale is because when you are raped, something has been violently taken from you that cannot ever be gotten back - it cannot be restored - just like a life. Therefore, the perpetrator should pay for it with his life.

[Niemand]

Very twisted morality. I suppose the mother thinks that the girl was more willing than claimed, but she could also have been much physically weaker and smaller than the boy, and it's also a toilet so hard to escape.

[Durzan]

Its also reasonable to take the boy out behind the woodshed and put a few cents of lead into him because he's a menace to society...arrange the judgement meeting...

Ehhh... no not really. One (admittedly horrible crime with one person as the victim) is not objectively equivalent to being a "menace to society." Also, rape =/= murder, so the punishment for the individual in question shouldn't be death. I honestly don't think a person's life should be taken except POSSIBLY in cases where lives have physically been lost. Since the victim not only survived and has the potential to recover and live a happy life, the Rapist's life shouldn't be forfeit... though he still deserves to spend a lot of time in jail.

Hope you never get raped, Durzan - your tune might change a little. The reason actual rape is so bad and should be equal with murder on the judgement scale is because when you are raped, something has been violently taken from you that cannot ever be gotten back - it cannot be restored - just like a life. Therefore, the perpetrator should pay for it with his life.

Considering how the thing you are talking about (Virginity) is 90% a philosophical construct of mankind designed to control people, I don't consider it to be equivalent to taking a life (in most circumstances). Yes, in a sense, something was violently taken from the victims. And in a sense, it can never return, but that doesn't mean that it inherently has the same level of value as life by default.

Rape is still extremely horrible because it takes something that is all about creation (Creation of life, strengthening of emotional bonds/attachment, giving of pleasure) and twists it into a form of torture that can cause unquantifiable physical and mental trauma/anguish. NOT because of some misguided notion of purity. And while that IS awful, by itself it doesn't compare to actually taking a person's life, as like I said before, the victim(s) can still recover and move past it (at least theoretically), while someone who was killed doesn't even have that chance. Death is exponentially harder to recover from than rape. That is literally why murder is the one unforgivable sin.

Just so you know, I have friends who have been raped. Including one who had a child from it (and chose to keep it). I don't have to have experienced it myself in order to empathize or understand, especially since my imagination is potent enough to allow me to feel a similar level of emotional pain to the victim at times. So be careful with how you judge.

[Niemand]

I dunno @Durzan I know a few women who were once raped or sexually assaulted. It has taken some of them years to get past it.

To be fair, the one person I admire on this score is Elizabeth Smart (or whatever her married name is). She said while she forgives her captors, she can never condone what they did. Very few people handle it as well as she has.

[Durzan]

I dunno @Durzan I know a few women who were once raped or sexually assaulted. It has taken some of them years to get past it.

To be fair, the one person I admire on this score is Elizabeth Smart (or whatever her married name is). She said while she forgives her captors, she can never condone what they did. Very few people handle it as well as she has.

But the fact remains that it is possible for them to do so. Difficult, yes. May take a long time? Absolutely. But its possible. Someone who's dead doesn't have that chance at all (from a mortal perspective where what happens beyond death is speculative at best).

Elizabeth Smart showed exceptional mental fortitude when she forgave her captors. That is something to admire about her.

[Jason]

I dunno @Durzan I know a few women who were once raped or sexually assaulted. It has taken some of them years to get past it.

To be fair, the one person I admire on this score is Elizabeth Smart (or whatever her married name is). She said while she forgives her captors, she can never condone what they did. Very few people handle it as well as she has.

at least on the surface it appears that way...sure has wreaked havoc with the whole family and her father going off the deep end...

meanwhile we are paying for that frootloop to rot in jail...rather than passing him on to the other side...


...rape actually creates more lives...all within the same body...one of the main tools of Operation Monarch and creating multiple personalities and controlling people...

...a quick examination of the lives of the girls in the Disney Club can give you an appreciation for what they go through in terms of personality disorders and such...

[Durzan]

I dunno @Durzan I know a few women who were once raped or sexually assaulted. It has taken some of them years to get past it.

To be fair, the one person I admire on this score is Elizabeth Smart (or whatever her married name is). She said while she forgives her captors, she can never condone what they did. Very few people handle it as well as she has.

at least on the surface it appears that way...sure has wreaked havoc with the whole family and her father going off the deep end...

meanwhile we are paying for that frootloop to rot in jail...rather than passing him on to the other side...


...rape actually creates more lives...all within the same body...one of the main tools of Operation Monarch and creating multiple personalities and controlling people...

...a quick examination of the lives of the girls in the Disney Club can give you an appreciation for what they go through in terms of personality disorders and such...

And that's the kind of thing I was talking about when I pointed out to EmmaLee that Rape brings significant mental trauma, which is arguably more horrifying than the more traditional reasons why many consider it to be on par with murder.

[Fred]

Its also reasonable to take the boy out behind the woodshed and put a few cents of lead into him because he's a menace to society...arrange the judgement meeting...

Ehhh... no not really. One (admittedly horrible crime with one person as the victim) is not objectively equivalent to being a "menace to society." Also, rape =/= murder, so the punishment for the individual in question shouldn't be death. I honestly don't think a person's life should be taken except POSSIBLY in cases where lives have physically been lost. Since the victim not only survived and has the potential to recover and live a happy life, the Rapist's life shouldn't be forfeit... though he still deserves to spend a lot of time in jail.

Hope you never get raped, Durzan - your tune might change a little. The reason actual rape is so bad and should be equal with murder on the judgement scale is because when you are raped, something has been violently taken from you that cannot ever be gotten back - it cannot be restored - just like a life. Therefore, the perpetrator should pay for it with his life.

This is what is wrong with our justice system. There should be no jails at all except perhaps as holding tanks for those awaiting trial. The correct verdict in all cases, should be restitution. Whatever that takes, even if it takes a lifetime. In cases where restitution is not possible, such as murder, rape, or whatever else, the death penalty should be awarded swiftly. At least 90% of the justice system industrial complex should be disbanded.

Oh, and if a cop brings a false charge, he/she should be awarded the death penalty immediately on the very same day.

[Jason]

and perhaps in some cases maybe the death penalty isn't the right avenue...and the eunuch way is...

[EmmaLee]

Its also reasonable to take the boy out behind the woodshed and put a few cents of lead into him because he's a menace to society...arrange the judgement meeting...

Ehhh... no not really. One (admittedly horrible crime with one person as the victim) is not objectively equivalent to being a "menace to society." Also, rape =/= murder, so the punishment for the individual in question shouldn't be death. I honestly don't think a person's life should be taken except POSSIBLY in cases where lives have physically been lost. Since the victim not only survived and has the potential to recover and live a happy life, the Rapist's life shouldn't be forfeit... though he still deserves to spend a lot of time in jail.

Hope you never get raped, Durzan - your tune might change a little. The reason actual rape is so bad and should be equal with murder on the judgement scale is because when you are raped, something has been violently taken from you that cannot ever be gotten back - it cannot be restored - just like a life. Therefore, the perpetrator should pay for it with his life.

Considering how the thing you are talking about (Virginity) is 90% a philosophical construct of mankind designed to control people, I don't consider it to be equivalent to taking a life (in most circumstances). Yes, in a sense, something was violently taken from the victims. And in a sense, it can never return, but that doesn't mean that it inherently has the same level of value as life by default.

Rape is still extremely horrible because it takes something that is all about creation (Creation of life, strengthening of emotional bonds/attachment, giving of pleasure) and twists it into a form of torture that can cause unquantifiable physical and mental trauma/anguish. NOT because of some misguided notion of purity. And while that IS awful, by itself it doesn't compare to actually taking a person's life, as like I said before, the victim(s) can still recover and move past it (at least theoretically), while someone who was killed doesn't even have that chance. Death is exponentially harder to recover from than rape. That is literally why murder is the one unforgivable sin.

Just so you know, I have friends who have been raped. Including one who had a child from it (and chose to keep it). I don't have to have experienced it myself in order to empathize or understand, especially since my imagination is potent enough to allow me to feel a similar level of emotional pain to the victim at times. So be careful with how you judge.

Did I judge you?? Nope, sure didn't. But you sure are being defensive (wonder why...). This is all your opinion - we all have opinions - I do not agree with your opinion. Again, I hope you never get raped.

[EmmaLee]

I dunno @Durzan I know a few women who were once raped or sexually assaulted. It has taken some of them years to get past it.

To be fair, the one person I admire on this score is Elizabeth Smart (or whatever her married name is). She said while she forgives her captors, she can never condone what they did. Very few people handle it as well as she has.

at least on the surface it appears that way...sure has wreaked havoc with the whole family and her father going off the deep end...

meanwhile we are paying for that frootloop to rot in jail...rather than passing him on to the other side...

...rape actually creates more lives...all within the same body...one of the main tools of Operation Monarch and creating multiple personalities and controlling people...

...a quick examination of the lives of the girls in the Disney Club can give you an appreciation for what they go through in terms of personality disorders and such...

And that's the kind of thing I was talking about when I pointed out to EmmaLee that Rape brings significant mental trauma, which is arguably more horrifying than the more traditional reasons why many consider it to be on par with murder.

YOU didn't point that out to me - just the opposite, in fact. I'm the one who considers rape on par with murder, not you. Your statement here makes zero sense. The body can usual heal from rape - the mind/soul has a much harder time of it, and very often, doesn't even happen in this life, despite best attempts. That is why rapists should be put to death, just like murderers and child abusers.

[EmmaLee]

Its also reasonable to take the boy out behind the woodshed and put a few cents of lead into him because he's a menace to society...arrange the judgement meeting...

Ehhh... no not really. One (admittedly horrible crime with one person as the victim) is not objectively equivalent to being a "menace to society." Also, rape =/= murder, so the punishment for the individual in question shouldn't be death. I honestly don't think a person's life should be taken except POSSIBLY in cases where lives have physically been lost. Since the victim not only survived and has the potential to recover and live a happy life, the Rapist's life shouldn't be forfeit... though he still deserves to spend a lot of time in jail.

Hope you never get raped, Durzan - your tune might change a little. The reason actual rape is so bad and should be equal with murder on the judgement scale is because when you are raped, something has been violently taken from you that cannot ever be gotten back - it cannot be restored - just like a life. Therefore, the perpetrator should pay for it with his life.

This is what is wrong with our justice system. There should be no jails at all except perhaps as holding tanks for those awaiting trial. The correct verdict in all cases, should be restitution. Whatever that takes, even if it takes a lifetime. In cases where restitution is not possible, such as murder, rape, or whatever else, the death penalty should be awarded swiftly. At least 90% of the justice system industrial complex should be disbanded.

Wholeheartedly agree.

[EmmaLee]

and perhaps in some cases maybe the death penalty isn't the right avenue...and the eunuch way is...

That would be just, as well.

[Niemand]

I dunno @Durzan I know a few women who were once raped or sexually assaulted. It has taken some of them years to get past it.

To be fair, the one person I admire on this score is Elizabeth Smart (or whatever her married name is). She said while she forgives her captors, she can never condone what they did. Very few people handle it as well as she has.

at least on the surface it appears that way...sure has wreaked havoc with the whole family and her father going off the deep end...

meanwhile we are paying for that frootloop to rot in jail...rather than passing him on to the other side...


...rape actually creates more lives...all within the same body...one of the main tools of Operation Monarch and creating multiple personalities and controlling people...

...a quick examination of the lives of the girls in the Disney Club can give you an appreciation for what they go through in terms of personality disorders and such...

I think by the things she says she has a better handle on it than some people. It hasn't stopped her having a life of her own. Some people don't get to her stage. It could have completely destroyed her.

As for Disney, was never really a fan of just about any of their products even as a child. Certainly not of their TV stuff. Very creepy, and I could never put my finger on it.

I think it goes further though. The trauma can be intergenerational. Certainly the women (and men), who were sexually assaulted in Europe and Asia in WW2 may have passed on their mental issues to next generations. Eastern Europe will be filled with families whose parents were assaulted by Axis and Soviet forces. The Red Army had a free for all with German women.

[TheDuke]

Well, given the mother's reaction to her son's evil actions, it is easy to see why he felt empowered to do what he wants. He was obviously never taught anything from that mother. Worse, though is he is a repeat offender.... Obviously no attempt at correction between the separate event in separate schools.............................. He likes to wear skirts and go into girls bathrooms.... but that is ok. He is a predator ... but that is ok.......... school board covers for him .. but thats ok......... mothers coddles him ........... but thats ok. I guess he learned his lesson from all the parental and school board teachings.

[Fred]

and perhaps in some cases maybe the death penalty isn't the right avenue...and the eunuch way is...

Maybe let the victim decide.

[EmmaLee]

Well, given the mother's reaction to her son's evil actions, it is easy to see why he felt empowered to do what he wants. He was obviously never taught anything from that mother. Worse, though is he is a repeat offender.... Obviously no attempt at correction between the separate event in separate schools.............................. He likes to wear skirts and go into girls bathrooms.... but that is ok. He is a predator ... but that is ok.......... school board covers for him .. but thats ok......... mothers coddles him ........... but thats ok. I guess he learned his lesson from all the parental and school board teachings.

I wonder where his father is? What kind of a man his father is? I wonder how many rapists have good, strong, loving fathers.

[Gadianton Slayer]

Well, given the mother's reaction to her son's evil actions, it is easy to see why he felt empowered to do what he wants. He was obviously never taught anything from that mother. Worse, though is he is a repeat offender.... Obviously no attempt at correction between the separate event in separate schools.............................. He likes to wear skirts and go into girls bathrooms.... but that is ok. He is a predator ... but that is ok.......... school board covers for him .. but thats ok......... mothers coddles him ........... but thats ok. I guess he learned his lesson from all the parental and school board teachings.

I wonder where his father is? What kind of a man his father is? I wonder how many rapists have good, strong, loving fathers.

Or two "mothers"...