Kyle Rittenhouse Trial (Poll)
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Serragon
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I have a friend who is a strident leftist. Lived in cities his whole life. Never owned a car. Thinks himself very, very smart and hip. He is an excellent reflection of what the cool kids on the left are saying about things.
I kept asking him how this couldn't be self defense, and he kept saying that Kyle shouldn't have been there and that he was attempting to disrupt these other people's right to protest. The fact that he was armed with a scary rifle was a threat.in and of itself. Basically, he can't be engaged in self defense because his presence with a gun was aggressive and anything the other guys did was by definition self defense.
When I said the other guys weren't supposed to be there, he disagreed and said they should be there because they were protesting civil rights violations.
So I don't think Kyle is out of the woods yet. There are plenty of irrational leftists out there pretending to be rational. Hopefully they are not on the jury, and hopefully the jury or judge has the fortitude to do the right thing and not give in to the public threats of violence directed at them.
I kept asking him how this couldn't be self defense, and he kept saying that Kyle shouldn't have been there and that he was attempting to disrupt these other people's right to protest. The fact that he was armed with a scary rifle was a threat.in and of itself. Basically, he can't be engaged in self defense because his presence with a gun was aggressive and anything the other guys did was by definition self defense.
When I said the other guys weren't supposed to be there, he disagreed and said they should be there because they were protesting civil rights violations.
So I don't think Kyle is out of the woods yet. There are plenty of irrational leftists out there pretending to be rational. Hopefully they are not on the jury, and hopefully the jury or judge has the fortitude to do the right thing and not give in to the public threats of violence directed at them.
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Serragon
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CNN's lead right now:
"Armed paramedic who was shot testifies he thought teen was an active shooter"
Once again telling you exactly how you are supposed to think about things.
"Armed paramedic who was shot testifies he thought teen was an active shooter"
Once again telling you exactly how you are supposed to think about things.
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Serragon
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The Guardian:
"Man who survived gunshot thought he was going to die"
Seriously.. this is what they are feeding to people. It is all emotional manipulation all the time with these "news" organizations.
"Man who survived gunshot thought he was going to die"
Seriously.. this is what they are feeding to people. It is all emotional manipulation all the time with these "news" organizations.
- jreuben
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Clearly they are setting this up for mass riots for when Kyle is acquitted.
- h_p
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Should have been "radical leftist with gun lucky to be alive after admitting he pointed gun at child trying to turn himself into the police."
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BLM is already threatening the jury....
https://www.wisconsinrightnow.com/2021/ ... deotaping/The videotaping report comes shortly after a Minneapolis BLM activist said someone was photographing Kenosha jurors in a live stream video. That same man, Cortez Rice, also recorded video saying he was outside the door of the home of the judge in the Daunte Wright case in Minnesota. That’s a police shooting death.
It’s not clear whether any of those incidents was related to the videotaping in Kenosha; the judge did not reveal anything about the person doing the videotaping of Rittenhouse jurors.
https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/sta ... 0370125824
https://alphanews.org/george-floyds-all ... ouse-jury/An apparent relative of George Floyd suggested that protesters should threaten jurors in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial — just like he recently threatened a judge presiding over a high-profile police shooting case.
Cortez Rice is a left-wing activist in Minneapolis. He has been described as George Floyd’s nephew by the Washington Post, his cousin by the International Business Times and as a close friend by other outlets. Whatever his relationship, Rice has become a central figure in Minnesota protest circles since Floyd’s death. He frequently spearheads rallies and draws attention from the mainstream media.
His most recent protest took place inside a private building that he believed to be the home of Judge Regina Chu. Chu ruled in August that the trial of former police officer Kim Potter, who shot Daunte Wright apparently by accident, will not be broadcast or video recorded.
https://alphanews.org/judge-confirms-th ... se-jurors/
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Who knows, but I would like to hear their thought process
- h_p
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Yeah, that was satisfying to watch, but it appears to have amounted to nothing. The rest of the day, Binger absolutely tortured Kyle on the stand, tried to introduce bogus evidence, and acted like a complete horse's butt, and the defense attorneys must have been either drugged or asleep. They barely ever raised an objection through the whole thing. The judge even had to step in to defend Kyle from Binger's assault when it got outrageous a few times. Kyle kept looking at his lawyers while on the stand, apparently trying to ask them for help, but to no avail.
I think most people would have completely crumbled from what the kid was subjected to today. But I think overall, he held up. He really shouldn't have taken the stand, though. There was nothing to be gained from it.
If Kyle's case wasn't so open-and-shut from the get-go, he'd be sunk with that pathetic legal team of his.
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Why wonder? It's just going to be a regurgitation of this:nightlight wrote: ↑November 10th, 2021, 2:43 pmWho knows, but I would like to hear their thought process
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I'm still listening to today's testimony and I have to say that as a software engineer, this is maddening. The prosecution is attempting to bring in video evidence that they weren't even aware of until halfway through the trial. They're claiming that this video shows Kyle pointing his rifle at a couple people, and that's what provoked the child rapist to attack Kyle. In other words, if this evidence is admitted, it could easily become the hinge point of the entire case. A single video that nobody even had until 6 days ago.
The thing that's driving me nuts is they are all debating about the validity of enlarging a video image to see something that isn't visible in the original image. The prosecution attorneys think enlarging a computer image is exactly the same as looking at it through a magnifying glass. Think of movies where a blurry image is enhanced and all of a sudden they can see the person's eye color. None of these bozos have any idea what they're talking about, and their expert witness barely understands. Folks, this is literally computer-fabricated evidence. Kyle could actually be convicted because of an imperfect software rendering of a video.
The thing that's driving me nuts is they are all debating about the validity of enlarging a video image to see something that isn't visible in the original image. The prosecution attorneys think enlarging a computer image is exactly the same as looking at it through a magnifying glass. Think of movies where a blurry image is enhanced and all of a sudden they can see the person's eye color. None of these bozos have any idea what they're talking about, and their expert witness barely understands. Folks, this is literally computer-fabricated evidence. Kyle could actually be convicted because of an imperfect software rendering of a video.
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...in a day and age when the President of the United States chimes in on a court case...calls the families...justice is fleeting...h_p wrote: ↑November 11th, 2021, 7:43 pm I'm still listening to today's testimony and I have to say that as a software engineer, this is maddening. The prosecution is attempting to bring in video evidence that they weren't even aware of until halfway through the trial. They're claiming that this video shows Kyle pointing his rifle at a couple people, and that's what provoked the child rapist to attack Kyle. In other words, if this evidence is admitted, it could easily become the hinge point of the entire case. A single video that nobody even had until 6 days ago.
The thing that's driving me nuts is they are all debating about the validity of enlarging a video image to see something that isn't visible in the original image. The prosecution attorneys think enlarging a computer image is exactly the same as looking at it through a magnifying glass. Think of movies where a blurry image is enhanced and all of a sudden they can see the person's eye color. None of these bozos have any idea what they're talking about, and their expert witness barely understands. Folks, this is literally computer-fabricated evidence. Kyle could actually be convicted because of an imperfect software rendering of a video.
- h_p
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Things really aren't looking good for Kyle after today. I'm seeing a lot of folks cheering the judge for yelling at the prosecution so much, thinking that must mean the court is in Kyle's favor. But watch enough of the trial and you'll see the judge is all bark and no bite. He has given them almost everything they wanted. The defense attorneys are asleep at the wheel, and Kyle's life hangs in the balance.
The prosecution was essentially able to get the green light to state in their closing arguments that Kyle provoked all 4 shootings by pointing a gun at another individual altogether, and so he has lost his right of self defense. This is all based on a low-resolution video that nobody knows where it came from, mid-trial, and was enlarged by a computer algorithm into a blurry mess where only the prosecution can see Kyle pointing a gun. The judge rewatched it a dozen times, and still couldn't see it, but allowed it as evidence anyway.
The jury will also be instructed about the "provocation", and keep in mind, the prosecution has been arguing this whole time that Kyle provoked the attacks by merely being in Kenosha with a rifle. So they've primed the jury to think about provocation, showed them evidence of other people being belligerent that night making Kyle guilty by association, and then they'll talk about a single unwitnessed act that they'll claim is the actual provocation as one of the last things the jury will hear. It's a classic bait and switch maneuver, and the judge and defense swallowed it hook, line, and sinker.
Hopefully the jury can see through all this nonsense, but the deck is seriously stacked against him now.
The prosecution was essentially able to get the green light to state in their closing arguments that Kyle provoked all 4 shootings by pointing a gun at another individual altogether, and so he has lost his right of self defense. This is all based on a low-resolution video that nobody knows where it came from, mid-trial, and was enlarged by a computer algorithm into a blurry mess where only the prosecution can see Kyle pointing a gun. The judge rewatched it a dozen times, and still couldn't see it, but allowed it as evidence anyway.
The jury will also be instructed about the "provocation", and keep in mind, the prosecution has been arguing this whole time that Kyle provoked the attacks by merely being in Kenosha with a rifle. So they've primed the jury to think about provocation, showed them evidence of other people being belligerent that night making Kyle guilty by association, and then they'll talk about a single unwitnessed act that they'll claim is the actual provocation as one of the last things the jury will hear. It's a classic bait and switch maneuver, and the judge and defense swallowed it hook, line, and sinker.
Hopefully the jury can see through all this nonsense, but the deck is seriously stacked against him now.
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HVCD best comments I have ever heard. We will all face this type of attacks in the future. We could just leave and be driven or finally take a stand. I wonder if the saints' story would be different if they would have taken a stand in Missouri. A stand. . . not started a war . . .but protected their homes and property. Some did stay in Missouri. We don't know their stories but that was something of a stand. . .to protect their rights and land.
They good guys in the BofM always fought for their land, family and homes and government. The whole Christian leadership in the USA have told their people to stand down and do what they are told by government. That is so against the Lord's promise on this land. We can sue and defend ourselves and our lives and the lives of those we love. That is never wrong. We need to quit listening to main stream new who are all just liars. time to build Zion
They good guys in the BofM always fought for their land, family and homes and government. The whole Christian leadership in the USA have told their people to stand down and do what they are told by government. That is so against the Lord's promise on this land. We can sue and defend ourselves and our lives and the lives of those we love. That is never wrong. We need to quit listening to main stream new who are all just liars. time to build Zion
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After watching the trial, I have moved my vote from "Unsure" to "Rittenhouse is innocent." It is very clear that the prosecution has no case.
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Well, based on the initial question from the poll I said “yes” he’ll be convicted because their is no true justice in this country anymore. I believe he was in the right, but I don’t trust peoples judgment anymore in this country.bbsion wrote: ↑November 4th, 2021, 4:10 pm Right now the trial of Kyle Rittenhouse is going on. I have not followed it extensively, I am just curious. Based on the information you know about this trial so far, do you think he should be convicted and serve time in prison? Is it too early to tell? Would you have done the same thing in his position? Is this a frivolous case wasting tax payer money?
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The Face Palm Plant was righteous. Bet he had to clean out his shorts post haste. (snicker)nightlight wrote: ↑November 8th, 2021, 3:47 pm https://m.tiktok.com/v/7028285240271572 ... pp_id=1233
- h_p
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If he's convicted, there will be no riots or demonstrations, of course. But if he's set free, there will be. The propaganda media is prepping the battlespace for this as we speak.
Kyle was attacked by a radical leftist mob on August 25, 2020. And he's spent every day since that night fighting an even bigger leftist mob with guns, jails, and access to all our money.
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A hung jury could be an option I suppose.h_p wrote: ↑November 13th, 2021, 8:08 amIf he's convicted, there will be no riots or demonstrations, of course. But if he's set free, there will be. The propaganda media is prepping the battlespace for this as we speak.
Kyle was attacked by a radical leftist mob on August 25, 2020. And he's spent every day since that night fighting an even bigger leftist mob with guns, jails, and access to all our money.
