The 15 Bretheren Have Painted Themselves Into a Corner

[Peeps]

I think the real problem is that withing the last 20 months a lot of people heard about VAERS for the first time. Those same people are arguing with others who have known about the problem with vaccines, doctors and VAERS reporting for years.

Your arguments about what reporting is and isn't required, vaccine safety, etc. are not going to have an effect because the rest of us didn't just wake up March 2020 and realize their was a problem. We have been studying and talking about this for many, many years.

Showing up late to the discussion and making under-educated comments will not get you respect or change the minds of those who know better.

You would do better to ask questions and then listen to the answers before making judgement and throwing all your eggs in one basket.

FWIW - Artaxerxes has been on LDSFF since Sep 17, 2014, when s/he registered under the name Stacy Oliver - so, this person isn't new to the discussion - only the current/latest name is new. Then, on Feb 01, 2021, s/he added franklinbluth as another sock puppet. And now Artaxerxes, created on Oct 24, 2021. All three are the same person - and they've been on the forum trolling for over 7 years now. Again, FWIW.

Wow, how can you tell?

After being on LDSFF for almost 16 years, it gets pretty easy to spot these types. Most people who leave or get banned come back under different names, but they continue to post about/word things/treat people exactly like they did before (there are many on LDSFF right now who fall into this category - a couple posting on this very thread besides Artaxerxes). It becomes obvious and easy to tell - sometimes right off the bat, sometimes it takes a few posts - but they always reveal themselves in how and what they say. It's easy for people to change their name, but not so easy to change who they are. As for the dates, scroll to the bottom of the page and click on "Members" - that gives their join date, etc.

And I will add my own observations from another thread about why some forum members are currently doing what they are doing....

Law of large numbers people. Law of Large Numbers...

A secret plan of genocide people, formed by the top members of secret societies.

That is why the lower level initiates come out and defend vaccines, gas lightning the ones who see, or even question, to silence them.

[Fred]

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[Durzan]

FWIW - Artaxerxes has been on LDSFF since Sep 17, 2014, when s/he registered under the name Stacy Oliver - so, this person isn't new to the discussion - only the current/latest name is new. Then, on Feb 01, 2021, s/he added franklinbluth as another sock puppet. And now Artaxerxes, created on Oct 24, 2021. All three are the same person - and they've been on the forum trolling for over 7 years now. Again, FWIW.

Wow, how can you tell?

After being on LDSFF for almost 16 years, it gets pretty easy to spot these types. Most people who leave or get banned come back under different names, but they continue to post about/word things/treat people exactly like they did before (there are many on LDSFF right now who fall into this category - a couple posting on this very thread besides Artaxerxes). It becomes obvious and easy to tell - sometimes right off the bat, sometimes it takes a few posts - but they always reveal themselves in how and what they say. It's easy for people to change their name, but not so easy to change who they are. As for the dates, scroll to the bottom of the page and click on "Members" - that gives their join date, etc.

And I will add my own observations from another thread about why some forum members are currently doing what they are doing....

Law of large numbers people. Law of Large Numbers...

A secret plan of genocide people, formed by the top members of secret societies.

That is why the lower level initiates come out and defend vaccines, gas lightning the ones who see, or even question, to silence them.

I'm not even an initiate. I just randomly call BS/play skeptic/whatever on anyone and everything whenever I get too annoyed with the shenanigans on this forum. There's a lot of baloney on here... but there's also a lot of baloney in the media, the internet, in the government, and other places too, sooo...

[The Red Pill]

The Red Pill????? not original but used to produce trust from other posters

Anyway, the COJCLDS media sold a series of posters in the 80s or 90s that could be used in your home or teaching. One poster showed a boy who had painted himself in a corner. I'm too lazy to look up the poster and show it to you, but, the answer was to repent. Even, without a poster, then we know that the person gets out of the corner by repenting.

So. . . .what if the brethren that you are accusing decide to repent. Yeah, what if they repent? What would you do? Are you willing to forgive them?

If they honestly discover their failings or sins or whatever you find them guilty of, what if they repent? Can you and the other posters on this forum. . . forgive them?

Can you forgive your fellowman and inherit a celestial kingdom where they will also be after repentance and fulfilling their mission?

What is our lot after this world if we do not forgive? just saying

What is our lot in this world....if we get a bunch of people killed and injured by being utterly reckless in "urging" a jab.

I can't deal in what may be, I have to deal with what is right now. Nobody in the 15 has even acknowledged that there are dangerous side effects and deaths...let alone admit mistakes...let alone repent.

...and by the way, I chose Red Pill long long ago, when it was not even referred to, except by those who had seen the Matrix.

[PeacefulProtests]

The 15 brethren have painted themselves into a corner.


A very outspoken critic of the covid jab is Dr. Peter McCollough. Dr. McCollough is known worldwide and his credentials are unquestionable. Interestingly, he was a proponent of the jab in January and was actually administering it to his patients. What changed? In a word: Data. He knew from experience that when conducting a trial with a new vaccine or drug, if the adverse reactions lead to the death of over 25 people…it would be halted and pulled off the market immediately. That’s the established protocol for safety.

By February, Dr. McCollough knew something was very wrong. The number of deaths on the CDC’s VAERS database had climbed to over 200…yet no-one was doing anything to stop the covid jab. When he tried to sound alarm bells, he found himself being criticized, censored and slandered. He knew back in February that the jab was NOT “safe and effective”. He also knew, this had nothing to do with public health.

Today the VAERS database on the covid jab has over 17,000 deaths and over 900,000 injuries. To put that in perspective, it is greater than ALL vaccine injuries reported over the 30 years of the VAERS history.

To be parroting the ridiculous and laughable lie, at this point in time, that the jab is “safe and effective” is outright criminal and evil.

Because the 15 brethren have hitched their horse to the vax wagon with steel cables that are welded in place, it seems they have set up their own downfall. People have died and been injured BECAUSE of their urging members to get the jab. Many more will follow with ADE, cancers, autoimmune disorders, blood clots, strokes, heart attacks and weakened immune systems.

In a nutshell…this is only going to get worse and people are waking up to the fact that the jab is deadly and ineffective. so….what is the natural reaction if you loose your spouse, child, a parent, co-worker or friend BECAUSE of the jab?

How are you and others going to feel towards those who were URGING people to get it???

Now add in the “Prophet” factor and you can get a sense of what is coming…

I don't understand the appeal to authority. One doctor says it's bad therefore it's bad? What of the 99% of doctors, also with unimpeachable credentials, who say it's safe and effective?

My brother is a doctor, believes in the vaxx 100%, yet knows very little about it other than he likes to parrot the slogan "Safe and effective". I think a lot of doctors are in this camp due to the schooling they go to where they are inundated with information and propaganda from Drug companies. The ones who are actually looking at all of the data (or lack thereof), setting aside their cognitive dissonance and using their critical thinking skills are seeing things in a much different light. All you have to do is ask yourself this one question: "How much incentive would a company have to make a product as safe as possible if they had ZERO liability and they had the backing of Governments to mandate it" aka a guaranteed market for their product? Especially if they knew it would be very difficult to link dangerous side effects to that said product

Critical thinkers don't just look to the consensus of "experts" for their opinions, they ask the hard questions

[HVDC]

The 15 brethren have painted themselves into a corner.


A very outspoken critic of the covid jab is Dr. Peter McCollough. Dr. McCollough is known worldwide and his credentials are unquestionable. Interestingly, he was a proponent of the jab in January and was actually administering it to his patients. What changed? In a word: Data. He knew from experience that when conducting a trial with a new vaccine or drug, if the adverse reactions lead to the death of over 25 people…it would be halted and pulled off the market immediately. That’s the established protocol for safety.

By February, Dr. McCollough knew something was very wrong. The number of deaths on the CDC’s VAERS database had climbed to over 200…yet no-one was doing anything to stop the covid jab. When he tried to sound alarm bells, he found himself being criticized, censored and slandered. He knew back in February that the jab was NOT “safe and effective”. He also knew, this had nothing to do with public health.

Today the VAERS database on the covid jab has over 17,000 deaths and over 900,000 injuries. To put that in perspective, it is greater than ALL vaccine injuries reported over the 30 years of the VAERS history.

To be parroting the ridiculous and laughable lie, at this point in time, that the jab is “safe and effective” is outright criminal and evil.

Because the 15 brethren have hitched their horse to the vax wagon with steel cables that are welded in place, it seems they have set up their own downfall. People have died and been injured BECAUSE of their urging members to get the jab. Many more will follow with ADE, cancers, autoimmune disorders, blood clots, strokes, heart attacks and weakened immune systems.

In a nutshell…this is only going to get worse and people are waking up to the fact that the jab is deadly and ineffective. so….what is the natural reaction if you loose your spouse, child, a parent, co-worker or friend BECAUSE of the jab?

How are you and others going to feel towards those who were URGING people to get it???

Now add in the “Prophet” factor and you can get a sense of what is coming…

I don't understand the appeal to authority. One doctor says it's bad therefore it's bad? What of the 99% of doctors, also with unimpeachable credentials, who say it's safe and effective?

My brother is a doctor, believes in the vaxx 100%, yet knows very little about it other than he likes to parrot the slogan "Safe and effective". I think a lot of doctors are in this camp due to the schooling they go to where they are inundated with information and propaganda from Drug companies. The ones who are actually looking at all of the data (or lack thereof), setting aside their cognitive dissonance and using their critical thinking skills are seeing things in a much different light. All you have to do is ask yourself this one question: "How much incentive would a company have to make a product as safe as possible if they had ZERO liability and they had the backing of Governments to mandate it" aka a guaranteed market for their product? Especially if they knew it would be very difficult to link dangerous side effects to that said product

Critical thinkers don't just look to the consensus of "experts" for their opinions, they ask the hard questions

"Doctors" are very carefully screened for their intelligence and rigidity of thought. Then put through a series of eliminations that only passes those who show no sign of independence. Afterwards they are subsequently trained to not question the orthodoxy of the medical industrial complex and to have complete faith in the wisdom of the pharmaceutical paradiem.

This process accomplishes two goals. First, it directs the mental energies of intelligent people to focus on a very small part of the pie to the exclusion of anything else, and secondly prevents anyone not approved by the priests of this priestcraft from obtaining any levers of real power. All professional organizations to one degree or another do the same thing.

That is why when I see the widespread Nepotism in the Church, I cannot help but think that the same process is taking place here.

Sir H

[Peeps]

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[Peeps]

Wow, how can you tell?

After being on LDSFF for almost 16 years, it gets pretty easy to spot these types. Most people who leave or get banned come back under different names, but they continue to post about/word things/treat people exactly like they did before (there are many on LDSFF right now who fall into this category - a couple posting on this very thread besides Artaxerxes). It becomes obvious and easy to tell - sometimes right off the bat, sometimes it takes a few posts - but they always reveal themselves in how and what they say. It's easy for people to change their name, but not so easy to change who they are. As for the dates, scroll to the bottom of the page and click on "Members" - that gives their join date, etc.

And I will add my own observations from another thread about why some forum members are currently doing what they are doing....

Law of large numbers people. Law of Large Numbers...

A secret plan of genocide people, formed by the top members of secret societies.

That is why the lower level initiates come out and defend vaccines, gas lightning the ones who see, or even question, to silence them.

I'm not even an initiate. I just randomly call BS/play skeptic/whatever on anyone and everything whenever I get too annoyed with the shenanigans on this forum. There's a lot of baloney on here... but there's also a lot of baloney in the media, the internet, in the government, and other places too, sooo...

I could buy that, but then there is also this:

November 2020 was always going to be the end of the old government and beginning of the new government.

400th anniversary of the Pilgrims landing at Cape Cod and signing the Mayflower Compact.

But now the two new governments are well on their way to being established: Zion and the Metaverse.

Actually, the pilgrims landing at cape cod is hardly a marker to use for the establishment of one American government. Especially since the United States wasn’t an actual nation until 1787. So by your logic, we have another 200 years to go.

So are you suggesting that the date set up by the illuminati/Masons that established the United States' government to be the actual date for the anniversary instead of the pilgrim's signing the Mayflower Compact?

By your logic you must be a mason also just like the forum member who has the square and compass as his avatar.

So no, I'm not buying it. Masons are luciferian at the higher levels. So they can, and do, with good conscience intentionally deceieve the vulgar and profane (as Albert Pike, or maybe it was Manly P Hall) called the uninitiated masses.

I am really getting annoyed with the secret societies, New World Order shenanigans.

[Silver Pie]

"Doctors" are very carefully screened for their intelligence and rigidity of thought. Then put through a series of eliminations that only passes those who show no sign of independence. Afterwards they are subsequently trained to not question the orthodoxy of the medical industrial complex and to have complete faith in the wisdom of the pharmaceutical paradiem.

This process accomplishes two goals. First, it directs the mental energies of intelligent people to focus on a very small part of the pie to the exclusion of anything else, and secondly prevents anyone not approved by the priests of this priestcraft from obtaining any levers of real power. All professional organizations to one degree or another do the same thing.

Confessions of a Medical Heretic

5 of the reviews on the book from that site (Goodreads):

Aug 16, 2018
☘Misericordia☘
The courage this guy demonstrated by addressing the issues of contemporary medical practices is astonishing!

The popular grievance on this book is that 'the info is dated'... Seriously? Children were born with conditions due to their mothers being prescribed drugs. People were misdiagnosed, had undergone all kinds of procedures leading to no improvements of their health (and in many cases to new illnesses). How can this suffering be dated?

Another thing is: just how imaginably can a person get info on what kind of havoc is going on today, if to understand what's going on, decades might be needed? What's clear is that with this kind of track, there definitely are bound to be issues in this industry.

The bonus point is: if the doctors are right, then questioning their verdicts should do no harm. Of course, many people will always say that patients with questions are the worst - well, they should change professions, then. A doctor has to be articulate enough to explain things. A patient needs to get informed and stay informed.

Jul 11, 2009
Sharon Garnes
I read this book when my children were small, and I think in may have saved my oldest son's life. I questioned one of my pediatrician's suggestions and he scoffed. So I found another doctor who assured me that my intuition was based on sound medicine. Dr. Mendelsohn empowered me to question established medical practice.

Those of us who are baby boomers need this book more than ever. Even though "Confessions of a Medical Heretic" is more than twenty years old, it is relevant reading for any of us who are faced with chronic medical conditions and frequent doctor visits.

Reading "Confessions of a Medicat Heretic" will save you money, time, and may even save your life!

I'm going to read it again.

Nov 14, 2012
The Goon
Shelves: enjoyed, health, science
In "Confessions of a Medical Heretic," a wayward doctor goes rogue and sticks it to the man.
Dr Mendelsohn is blunt, sarcastic and at times shockingly funny.
He is also honest, which is refreshing and wonderful. This book was published in 1979, and much of what was written still holds true to this very day. What's more is that Dr. Mendelsohn was right about many of his most passionately held medical beliefs. So right, in fact that many of his beliefs have become a part of the mainstream. His ideas have stood the test of time and this book is a most valuable read. There is no doubt that Dr Mendelsohn wished to promote the best interests of all people. He was not afraid to call out corruption where he saw it, and to empower his fellow human beings to reclaim their own good health.
This is a great book--no, it is a wonderful book. It's a fantastic book! This book is a book worth reading!

Aug 25, 2013
Joey Camen
One of the best books ever written on how the medical profession lies and makes fools of us all. This is a must read if you'd like to become more aware of what goes on behind your back and what the powers that be, who run it all don't want you to know. It may have been originally written many years ago and medical technologies have changed, but the greed of man and doctors (as Dr. Mendelsohn points out) is here to stay. I loved this book.

Apr 08, 2010
Dan
The author, really hits the medical profession and hospitals hard as real demons who basically cause a lot of unnecessary suffering for their patients. The book was written in 1979 so hopefully doctors and hospitals have become more humane in treating people. However, I observed how some doctors and hospital staffs have treated their patients as if they were dumb animals and they (the doctors and staff) should "never be questioned" as to their methods and procedures. So I can relate to what the author says about the "high and mighty" attitude of the medical profession. I know that probably most doctors are not like that, but as a patient we have the right to question their methods. There is a reason doctors call their business a "pratice". They don't have all the answers. So it is ok to ask, "what are you doing and why?". If the doctor/staff has any bedside manners and common sense, they will honestly tell what they know. I think the author has some good points, but I am hoping that he may have gone over the top bad mouthing doctors in order to get them to clean up some problems with the medical industry.

[larsenb]

As I posted elsewhere, there is a new treatment, that may be a "way out of the corner" -

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/202 ... 95&irgwc=1

"Hurray for the safe and effective treatment - now we don't need to urge cov-vaxx!"

We never did need to urge cov-vaxx. Dr McCullough and many others were early on suggesting and having great success with what McCullough describes as sequenced multidrug therapies. Molnupiravir could simply be one added to this collection.

The big draw back for me about this claim is that Moderna is involved, and will probably charge an arm and a leg for it. I'm curious what McCullough may think about it in view of his assiduously following the scientific literature on such things.

[Niemand]

I can't deal in what may be, I have to deal with what is right now. Nobody in the 15 has even acknowledged that there are dangerous side effects and deaths...let alone admit mistakes...let alone repent.

They will never openly repent or admit mistakes in any instance. Unless it's a conference talk about how they were naughty as a child... but never as an adult. It is their Achilles' heel.

[Iceberg]

The Red Pill????? not original but used to produce trust from other posters

Anyway, the COJCLDS media sold a series of posters in the 80s or 90s that could be used in your home or teaching. One poster showed a boy who had painted himself in a corner. I'm too lazy to look up the poster and show it to you, but, the answer was to repent. Even, without a poster, then we know that the person gets out of the corner by repenting.

So. . . .what if the brethren that you are accusing decide to repent. Yeah, what if they repent? What would you do? Are you willing to forgive them?

If they honestly discover their failings or sins or whatever you find them guilty of, what if they repent? Can you and the other posters on this forum. . . forgive them?

Can you forgive your fellowman and inherit a celestial kingdom where they will also be after repentance and fulfilling their mission?

What is our lot after this world if we do not forgive? just saying

If the church came clean and asked for forgiveness on all their whitewashing, deceptions and Babylonisms and showed it by their actions in revealing where they have covered up truth and if they turned away from the world, I would be thrilled and forgive. No one looks bigger in my eyes than someone who truly asks for forgiveness and tries to change their way; especially one who is forgiving down...parent to child, teacher to student, ect.