Wearing Masks During Priesthood Blessings/Ordinances (Poll)

[Voyager]

Well, everyone has to decide where to draw the line on people they associate with. I have a very low tolerance for stupidity, especially when it is self imposed, that I would decline. If you want my presence, you are going to have to wise up a notch. If you can't do that, then whatever you do is whatever you do and just count me out. It is a hoax. A complete fraud. The purpose is to enslave mankind. All participants are complicit. No exceptions. I have relatives that are too stupid to be considered human. If it wasn't self imposed, I would have empathy. But since it is, I can't think of a single possible reason to allow them to share my air space.

So much of Jesus in your words Fred, as always.

[Dave62]

For those of us who would occassionally wear a mask before it became contentious, this is a non issue. Been to Japan nine times. You get used to wearing a mask if you get a bit of a cold, end of story.

If you are sick enough to need to wear a mask maybe you should decline giving the blessing and stay home until you are better.

If there is nothing wrong with you, why wear a mask to do a blessing? I wouldn't.

[Fred]

Well, everyone has to decide where to draw the line on people they associate with. I have a very low tolerance for stupidity, especially when it is self imposed, that I would decline. If you want my presence, you are going to have to wise up a notch. If you can't do that, then whatever you do is whatever you do and just count me out. It is a hoax. A complete fraud. The purpose is to enslave mankind. All participants are complicit. No exceptions. I have relatives that are too stupid to be considered human. If it wasn't self imposed, I would have empathy. But since it is, I can't think of a single possible reason to allow them to share my air space.

So much of Jesus in your words Fred, as always.

What? You don't think Jesus has requirements to obtain His presence?

[Reluctant Watchman]

Since it's family and a baby and only for a minute, I would just wear the mask then take it off. It's stupid, but sometimes we gotta respect stupid parenting choices of others. I think it's dumb if some family won't let their kids have sugar, but I'm not going to give it to them when the parents are watching. jk

And sometimes saying "No" is the best thing you could do.

[Voyager]

Well, everyone has to decide where to draw the line on people they associate with. I have a very low tolerance for stupidity, especially when it is self imposed, that I would decline. If you want my presence, you are going to have to wise up a notch. If you can't do that, then whatever you do is whatever you do and just count me out. It is a hoax. A complete fraud. The purpose is to enslave mankind. All participants are complicit. No exceptions. I have relatives that are too stupid to be considered human. If it wasn't self imposed, I would have empathy. But since it is, I can't think of a single possible reason to allow them to share my air space.

So much of Jesus in your words Fred, as always.

What? You don't think Jesus has requirements to obtain His presence?

Of course he does. And yet he dined with publicans, harlots, and sinners rather than those who viewed themselves as holy men. I agree that we need to set reasonable boundaries for who we associate with, and that we have the right to choose those associations. But the worthiness requirements to stand in God's presence aren't exactly the same requirements to stand in front of you or me.

[Lineman1012]

I'm the Elder's Quorum president in my ward, I got a call from one of my elders asking me to come over and give him and his wife a blessing as they had decided to get the vaccine later that day and wanted god's protection. At that moment I had a big conflict hit me - could I give a blessing to someone that was going to get the jab? knowing how bad the shot was and what was in it, to me it was like wanting a blessing right before you commit suicide.

I went over and we talked for over an hour. All about life, the vax and what's in it, along with the last days and evil and
designing men. Right or wrong, in the end I told them that I couldn't give them a blessing because of what I know about what's in the needle, however if they were still going to go thru with it, I would find someone in the ward that would give them the blessing they wanted.

To this day they have not got the shot and yesterday another person in our ward who works at the same place just got a religious exemption approved.

I think this is probably okay; I think giving a blessing that someone be protected from harm when they are about to jump off a building would be tempting God.

We just need to make sure that we remember (which is more an after the fact verse rather than before verse):

17 Perhaps thou shalt say: The man has brought upon himself his misery; therefore I will stay my hand, and will not give unto him of my food, nor impart unto him of my substance that he may not suffer, for his punishments are just—

18 But I say unto you, O man, whosoever doeth this the same hath great cause to repent; and except he repenteth of that which he hath done he perisheth forever, and hath no interest in the kingdom of God.

19 For behold, are we not all abeggars? Do we not all depend upon the same Being, even God, for all the substance which we have, for both food and raiment, and for gold, and for silver, and for all the riches which we have of every kind?

alurker, You bring up an interesting point and it might need a new thread, but it has to do with priesthood blessings.

When the point in time comes that the shot damage, both mental and physical, becomes so obvious and people's hearts are torn and broken and their bodies are deeply damaged from the injected concoction that they can barely move. Their faith is shattered as they have realized they fell for the lie, at this point, they ask for a blessing. Can we have enough charity and love to give them one?

Or will our pride kick in and we say, “they brought this on themselves, their punishments are just”. (Verse 17)

Will we have the faith it will take to heal them or will our pride get in the way?

Yes, we should be preparing for this day.

[SPIRIT]

There are many different types of blessings and ordinances. There are also many different types of situations that may or may not persuade you to don the mask.

I have been 100% against wearing a mask for no reason. My sister just asked everyone standing in the circle for her baby blessing to wear a mask. I REALLY do not want to. I am debating and praying on what to do. Do I stand in the circle, not create a scene, not anger my sister, and wear the bloody mask? Or do I just tell her I cannot wear one and risk what happens? To add to the situation, I just got over Covid a couple weeks ago and the blessing is in a couple of weeks. So I would be plenty past the ever changing bull crap quarantine period anyway.

What would you do or what have you done? What was the reaction or the result of your decision? Is it worth it?

explain to her why you can not wear a mask - and how important that is to you.
Then tell her that you would like to participate in the blessing,
but - if you did not wear a mask, you would create a scene; which you do not want to do.

[Fred]

Well, everyone has to decide where to draw the line on people they associate with. I have a very low tolerance for stupidity, especially when it is self imposed, that I would decline. If you want my presence, you are going to have to wise up a notch. If you can't do that, then whatever you do is whatever you do and just count me out. It is a hoax. A complete fraud. The purpose is to enslave mankind. All participants are complicit. No exceptions. I have relatives that are too stupid to be considered human. If it wasn't self imposed, I would have empathy. But since it is, I can't think of a single possible reason to allow them to share my air space.

So much of Jesus in your words Fred, as always.

What? You don't think Jesus has requirements to obtain His presence?

Of course he does. And yet he dined with publicans, harlots, and sinners rather than those who viewed themselves as holy men. I agree that we need to set reasonable boundaries for who we associate with, and that we have the right to choose those associations. But the worthiness requirements to stand in God's presence aren't exactly the same requirements to stand in front of you or me.

There is a pretty good chance that they did not dictate what He had to wear.

[Reluctant Watchman]

I've been a lurker on this website for the last few years, it has been a long time since I've commented or engaged with anyone. I dread coming to this website anymore and wonder why I even come to check things out because it seems like such a pessimistic, fault finding place where people spend their time arguing and putting down others, even family members. Whenever I visit this website, I often think of Jeffrey R. Hollands talk called, The Tongue of Angels, specifically where he states the following, "The voice that bears profound testimony, utters fervent prayer, and sings the hymns of Zion can be the same voice that berates and criticizes, embarrasses and demeans, inflicts pain and destroys the spirit of oneself and of others in the process. Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. James Grieves." He goes on, "I have often thought that Nephi's being bound with cords and beaten by rods must have been more tolerable to him than listening to Laman and Lemuel's constant murmuring. Surely he must have said at last once, "Hit me one more time. I can still hear you." Yes life has its problems and yes, there are negative things to face, but please accept one of Elder Holland's maxims for living--- no misfortune is so bad that whining about won't make it worse."

My heart goes out to your sister, she is obviously concerned. Is it really too much of a sacrifice and discomfort to wear a mask to be able to participate in the blessing of your sister's child? The sacrifice our ancestors went through for each other was a lot worse then wearing a mask for a baby blessing or for a 2 hr church service. I often think of the sacrifice, blood, sweat, tears and lives lost for the sake of the temple, the building of Zion and coming across west. It blows me away people want to complain about having to wear a mask to pass the sacrament or to be able to worship in the temple or whatever is being asked of us to be able to keep church's and temple's open. Wearing a mask to be able to participate in sacred ordinances is such a minor inconvenience. If you have a deep relationship with your sister, and not a superficial one, a mask for a 5 minute blessing would seem of little significance to be of a support to her during this special time. My vote is 5 minutes of your personal discomfort for your sister's special moment is worth more than you realize.

It's not the small sacrifice (wear a mask for a min) that bothers many of us, it is the intentions behind the demand. I'll gladly die for your right to choose to or not to mask or jab, just don't take away my agency to do the same. It seems as if we've taken the call to meekness as bending to the will of evil men and women.

[Gadianton Slayer]

I will never. I understand the purpose, I understand the efficacy; as a result, I would be lying to the faces of all those who saw me.

Well, to half of their faces.

[Reluctant Watchman]

My heart goes out to your sister, she is obviously concerned. Is it really too much of a sacrifice and discomfort to wear a mask to be able to participate in the blessing of your sister's child? The sacrifice our ancestors went through for each other was a lot worse then wearing a mask for a baby blessing or for a 2 hr church service. I often think of the sacrifice, blood, sweat, tears and lives lost for the sake of the temple, the building of Zion and coming across west. It blows me away people want to complain about having to wear a mask to pass the sacrament or to be able to worship in the temple or whatever is being asked of us to be able to keep church's and temple's open. Wearing a mask to be able to participate in sacred ordinances is such a minor inconvenience. If you have a deep relationship with your sister, and not a superficial one, a mask for a 5 minute blessing would seem of little significance to be of a support to her during this special time. My vote is 5 minutes of your personal discomfort for your sister's special moment is worth more than you realize.

Ah of course the respect and sacrifice only goes one way.

Wearing a mask to be able to participate in sacred ordinances is such a minor inconvenience. (for you, obviously you are not compassionate enough to understand that other see it differently).

If you have a deep relationship with your sister, and not a superficial one, a mask for a 5 minute blessing would seem of little significance to be of a support to her during this special time.
(of course you don't say that if this individual has a deep enough relationship with the sister then she would understand his refusal to wear a mask and to participate).

My vote is 5 minutes of your personal discomfort for your sister's special moment is worth more than you realize.
(of course, everyone must cater to everyone else's personal discomfort, not a single thought for HIS personal discomfort).

The liberals, they always use love, kindness, sacrifice as weapons to get their way. It happens with LGBTQ+, masking, with everything. They claim love, kindness, sacrifice but they themselves are always the ones with the least amount of tolerance, compassion, love and sacrifice for those who think differently.

Genuine question. Based off your statement, would you have called Joseph Smith a liberal for showing love, kindness and sacrifice? The night he was tarred and feathered and an attempt on his life was performed ( because that was the intent) instead of retaliating, he was found the next morning, just hours later giving a sermon and baptized 3 people. Could he have done that with the spirit of retaliation? All those months in Liberty Jail, where were is rights?? And those suffering with them?? Why didnt they retaliate and fight back? Joseph learned compassion during his persecution and trials. One of the greatest attributes of the Savior is meekness ( self restraint) and long suffering.
And by the way, I'm not a liberal. Never have been, never will be. Those 2 attributes of the Savior, meekness and long suffering could really be used more on both sides of the political spectrum.

IMO Joseph would be excommunicated today. Study the Hebrew definition of meekness. It does not mean we go along with every word that proceeds forth from the mouth of men.

[WikiUp]

Same situation: I have a grand daughter who wants me to baptize her Dec11.

Not sure I will be able to get a recommend because of my views on masks, etc.

At this moment, I'll have to ask her Step Father to perform the ordinance.

[keeprunning]

Since it's family and a baby and only for a minute, I would just wear the mask then take it off. It's stupid, but sometimes we gotta respect stupid parenting choices of others. I think it's dumb if some family won't let their kids have sugar, but I'm not going to give it to them when the parents are watching. jk

And sometimes saying "No" is the best thing you could do.

I mean, if a few minutes discomfort is worth a potential rift in your sibling relationship... I would do it for the innocent baby.
I think masks are lame, but I'm not an extremist that thinks having one on makes you Satan's follower.

[Reluctant Watchman]

Since it's family and a baby and only for a minute, I would just wear the mask then take it off. It's stupid, but sometimes we gotta respect stupid parenting choices of others. I think it's dumb if some family won't let their kids have sugar, but I'm not going to give it to them when the parents are watching. jk

And sometimes saying "No" is the best thing you could do.

I mean, if a few minutes discomfort is worth a potential rift in your sibling relationship... I would do it for the innocent baby.
I think masks are lame, but I'm not an extremist that thinks having one on makes you Satan's follower.

Flaxen cords my friend.

It's not the discomfort. I can handle pain quite well. The people asking you to mask and jab are satanic. You are following satanic orders. Who's your daddy?

[keeprunning]

If you want to give a mask that power, go for it. I like giving relationships more power. I could refuse to fly and never see family because of masks, but I think family is more important. There are ways to work around it.

[Reluctant Watchman]

If you want to give a mask that power, go for it. I like giving relationships more power. I could refuse to fly and never see family because of masks, but I think family is more important. There are ways to work around it.

If you value your freedoms so little, go for it. Christ was quite specific about relationships and standing up for what is right.

[Fred]

Since it's family and a baby and only for a minute, I would just wear the mask then take it off. It's stupid, but sometimes we gotta respect stupid parenting choices of others. I think it's dumb if some family won't let their kids have sugar, but I'm not going to give it to them when the parents are watching. jk

And sometimes saying "No" is the best thing you could do.

I mean, if a few minutes discomfort is worth a potential rift in your sibling relationship... I would do it for the innocent baby.
I think masks are lame, but I'm not an extremist that thinks having one on makes you Satan's follower.

Well then you need to do a little research. The sole purpose of the mask is to show compliance. The compliance is to the deep state (satan) There is NO legitimate medical reason to wear a mask. NONE. Anyone that says there is, is a liar. So for the double digit dweebs that wish to show their devotion and support of his attempt to overthrow the Almighty God, then wear a mask. There simply is no other reason to. If your brain capacity is so limited that you can not understand why a chain link fence will not keep mosquitos out, then I suggest you seek a triple digit IQ to explain it to you.

[keeprunning]

Um, yeah. I know all that. Been saying it from day one. Do you guys not get out and socialize ever? Man. Some people on here still have to have lives.

[Fred]

Um, yeah. I know all that. Been saying it from day one. Do you guys not get out and socialize ever? Man. Some people on here still have to have lives.

Sure. But fortunately you can choose who you share your life with. Why invite people into your life that are too stupid to even comprehend what you talk about. I mean if they are only 2 years old, they will grow out of it. But if they are 40, just pretend they have the plague.

[harakim]

There are many different types of blessings and ordinances. There are also many different types of situations that may or may not persuade you to don the mask.

I have been 100% against wearing a mask for no reason. My sister just asked everyone standing in the circle for her baby blessing to wear a mask. I REALLY do not want to. I am debating and praying on what to do. Do I stand in the circle, not create a scene, not anger my sister, and wear the bloody mask? Or do I just tell her I cannot wear one and risk what happens? To add to the situation, I just got over Covid a couple weeks ago and the blessing is in a couple of weeks. So I would be plenty past the ever changing bull crap quarantine period anyway.

What would you do or what have you done? What was the reaction or the result of your decision? Is it worth it?

I would wear a mask if the person requested the blessing asked me to (in most cases.) I would not if a bishop or other uninvolved person asked me to. It's a weird gray area where you have a baby that can't speak for themself.

[keeprunning]

Exactly. Your sister sounds like a hormonal, paranoid new mom. Don't put up a fight about this with her. If ever there is a time to show love and humility it is now. Just put it on then take it off. Over and done.

[keeprunning]

Same situation: I have a grand daughter who wants me to baptize her Dec11.

Not sure I will be able to get a recommend because of my views on masks, etc.

At this moment, I'll have to ask her Step Father to perform the ordinance.

Seriously? All because of masks?? I totally disagree with mask mandates, but not baptizing your own granddaughter who asked you too would be heartbreaking to her. Not worth it. Please just do it.

[bbsion]

I could and in many ways do put up with discomfort to help another person. But for many of us, the mask is not so much (not much at all) about comfort, compared to what it communicates. It is symbolic to us of being on board with the agenda of the satanic secret combination that President Benson told us about.

In other words, we could substitute “swastika” or “hammer and sickle” for “mask.” Could you wear a swastika on your face or on your lapel to give a Priesthood blessing? Would you do it if it made your friend or loved one feel better?

It’s more of a dilemma for those of us who don’t see covid as the plague the Gadiantons want everyone to believe it is.

Well put. This is my dilemma, or at least very close to it, not comfort. A couple minutes of a mask is bearable comfort wise, but not symbolically.

[Fred]

Well, I have the perfect solution. This way, even those against masks can be very willing to wear one. Because it's purpose is obvious and not deceitful like RMNs mask This one is the female version and every bit as effective as Fauci's mask. But you can wear this one proudly to church, because it is an honesty mask.

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[Reluctant Watchman]

Exactly. Your sister sounds like a hormonal, paranoid new mom. Don't put up a fight about this with her. If ever there is a time to show love and humility it is now. Just put it on then take it off. Over and done.

How about having a nice, loving conversation with her about how the intentions behind the mask are evil? Being a light to the world was not about submitting to Babylon. Probably why the Lord also included the blessing of those who are persecuted for standing up for truth.