Of all the "building methods", these "earthships" are probably abandoned the most. I've known a few become abandoned during construction.Fred wrote: ↑February 28th, 2022, 9:42 pm I would never join a community like this, but you might get some ideas about what can be done with the place you already have. Taos, New Mexico has been open to this sort of thing for decades. But these types of homes can be built anywhere.
Tire shops have to pay a disposal fee so if you want tires, you can get hundreds of thousands of them delivered for free.
Most of the homes in this video are made out of garbage.
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Grandpa always said 1"Nothing has a memory like a 10 cent notebook."mudflap wrote: ↑October 25th, 2021, 9:33 pm just wanted to add - you folks out there "wishing" - don't wish, start planning. Make do-able plans, of course, but make some. some ideas:
1. I worked at a doctor's office when I first moved here (I moved here without a job after leaving a top tier tech job at the phone company - moved here on faith) - went from making $65k to making $10/hr. That job sucked, but it was the Obama economy (funny - looks like we're headed for "round two"...), so I was glad to have anything. Lived in a rented trailer - it was a 3 bedroom single wide - and all 7 of us lived there (there's now 8, but only 3 of us live together). Anyway, there was this really efficient doctor there - out of 5 doctors - he saw twice, sometimes 3 times as many patients. He had a waiting list of patients who wanted to see him. Anyway, I made it my mission to figure out what made him so successful. I finally figured out how to frame my question (don't know why it was hard, but I figured I got one shot at it...) - I said, "how do you get so much done in a day?" His answer: "I only touch the charts one time." That was it. He read the chart one time, and made his notes at the same time. He didn't shuffle back through the stacks at the end of the day, listening to his tape recording of the event. He said he did that with his bills, and anything else that came in the mail.
2. My friend who died of cancer - I worked with him on restoring an old "mill house" he owned that I was going to buy. I asked him one time "how do you keep all the stuff you have to do on this house organized? It's a lot to think about - buying electrical, ripping out carpet, installing drywall, keeping up with new saw blades and drill bits - I think it would drive me crazy." He beamed - and then showed me his yellow notepad - "I write all the stuff I need to do on here as I think of it. Then I check it off as I get to it. When I run out of things to check off, I know I'm done." Best simple advice I've ever heard.
3. I hate "Franklin Planners". I've tried all the apps, too. I thought computers were going to make life easier. That train hasn't arrived yet (for me). So I found this tiny little notebook - about 3"x5". It's a little bit bigger than my wallet - I can stick it in my back pocket. Anything I think of, I can note it in there. Moleskin makes them, too. Anyway, I buy the ones with dots instead of writing lines because I do a lot of drawing for the cabin - tossing ideas around on paper is easier for me. I make a table of contents on the first page - then every page gets marked with a category that matches the TOC - I can easily flip to all my cabin ideas. I also keep a list of "ongoing supplies" - you could list exact ammo sizes for all your 2A stuff. I put the AC filter size, oil filter types for all the cars, lightbulbs, etc. It's also a journal, a cut sheet (for when I'm cutting lumber), a doodle pad for my knitting pattern ideas, gardening notes, mileage journal for my car (you should do this - if your mileage ever starts to drop on your car, it's a good indicator something needs attention- air filter, low air in tires, spark plugs going out).
4. And finally, I'm collecting info right now on stuff I know nothing about (the only thing good about computers is looking stuff up on the internet, lol) - instead of mindlessly scrolling through fb(although I still do that), I have a list of things I'm trying to figure out - what size wiring I need for the cabin - entrance cable vs outlet cable vs lighting cable (yes, they are all different sizes), what are the requirements for wood stove pipe, etc.. As I research all the fire codes, I'm taking notes. Once I condense the notes down to "soundbites" (in the brown picture), I add the soundbites to my notebook - then when I'm at home depot, I can check prices and supplies and know exactly what I need to buy.
Anyway, food for thought on "being organized"...
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This couple went off grid and haven't had a utility bill for 15 years. They did it in Canada where it is cold. They are nearly self sufficient.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/couple-wh ... 23831.html
https://www.theepochtimes.com/couple-wh ... 23831.html
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matrix may be a possibility but rural or not rural will not matter . . .when the NWO taxes all of your cows for farting . . . and your land has certain restrictions . . for example, my friend can only grow cord on certain years in so dakota and the cord has to be a matching hybrid that has patent on it . . . true story . . or you are taxed for the water usage . . .well or surface . . .even though you own the water rights . .
don't even believe for a minute that these gads don't have a plan for off or on the grid . . we will all pay for what we won . . . or what we have . . they have figured out how to squeeze everyone . . .
time to build Zion, a place of safety
don't even believe for a minute that these gads don't have a plan for off or on the grid . . we will all pay for what we won . . . or what we have . . they have figured out how to squeeze everyone . . .
time to build Zion, a place of safety
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Here's the same article - but without having to login:Fred wrote: ↑March 4th, 2022, 11:14 am This couple went off grid and haven't had a utility bill for 15 years. They did it in Canada where it is cold. They are nearly self sufficient.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/couple-wh ... 23831.html
https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-fina ... r-10-years
But also - some karen in their neighborhood made a complaint about their house, and the city came out and decided they built it without a permit, even though the previous building inspector told them they could build without a permit as long as they only used a shovel. Anyway, I can't figure out what happened after that (it was back in 2019), but I guess they are still there?
Anyway, it's a great idea.
instead of "making more money" they went with "NEED less money". smart.
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I believe that there will be a huge difference between rural and city. Right now, most people are comfortable. They tolerated the lockdowns, masks, shots, and the rest. But times have not got hard yet. People are still employed. They still have their playstation and the big screen tv. But when it comes to taxing cow farts, well, there aren't very many of them in the city and the rural people are not sissies like city dwellers. They already know that the government is the enemy. We are not very far from when badges are treated like a rattle snake. One does not come across a rattle snake and say that the vermin has a right to life and simply stay out of it's way. No. The way one treats a rattlesnake is if you see it, you kill it. Done deal. Threat removed. Permanently. The time is near when we will demand that freedom and take it. Some call it anarchy. Then the only people you need to fear is each other. Different people will have different methods for taking out the trash. Some prefer a high speed projectile though the skull. Some prefer the quickness of slitting a throat. Some may catch them in a bear trap and let the ants eat them to death. Some methods are funner than others. Either way, the trash gets taken out. All anyone must do to survive is to not get mistaken for trash. Some call it the golden rule.EvanLM wrote: ↑March 4th, 2022, 4:33 pm matrix may be a possibility but rural or not rural will not matter . . .when the NWO taxes all of your cows for farting . . . and your land has certain restrictions . . for example, my friend can only grow cord on certain years in so dakota and the cord has to be a matching hybrid that has patent on it . . . true story . . or you are taxed for the water usage . . .well or surface . . .even though you own the water rights . .
don't even believe for a minute that these gads don't have a plan for off or on the grid . . we will all pay for what we won . . . or what we have . . they have figured out how to squeeze everyone . . .
time to build Zion, a place of safety
City dwellers are by nature more communistic than rural folk. Some call it socialism. It is of the devil. Chasing the dollar, but producing nothing. The scriptures say a third will be killed. That is Billions with a B. Takes some big cities to come up with big numbers like that. It won't be where the cows fart.
People that are burdened with government over reach are not yet motivated to get off of the couch and do something about it. There are sissies that think it is wrong to kill in self defense. So they just complain and go along. As long as government employees are treated as anything other than the enemy, it has absolutely zero chance of getting any better. We are already at war. Most have simply refused to fight. It's like taking candy from a sissy.
I already live in Zion.
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