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Before the crisis ends, there will be civil violence and governments will be toppled, noted Harvard economist and best-selling author Niall Ferguson.

Disagreeing with Federal Reserve Board Chairman Bernanke's testimony to Congress last week that the economic recovery could begin yet in 2009, Ferguson warned, "There will be blood."

"This is a crisis of globalization," he said, according to a report of the speech published in the GlobalInvestor.com.

"A crisis of this magnitude is bound to increase political as well as economic [conflict]. It is bound to destabilize some countries," Ferguson warned. "It will cause civil wars to break out that have been dormant. It will topple governments that were moderate and bring in governments that are extreme."

"It's a crisis of excessive debt," he said, "and the deleveraging process has barely begun. U.S. consumers are not going to suddenly bounce back and hit the shopping malls just because they get a tax cut."
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Very true, I saw him today on the Glen Beck show. He mention how compare to the rest of the world we, here in America have it far better. He also mention how crazy things are getting over in the European union and how England's pm is pushing for a NEW new world deal. A world wide economy with one currency. Glen went on to mention that what's happening to the EU could potentially happen here where states that are doing ok refuse to bail out bankrupt states such as California and in the worst case scenario separate from the USA and seek sovereignty . Right now Germany is refusing to bailout east European countries that are part of the EU.

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lamanite_mormonGirl wrote:Very true, I saw him today on the Glen Beck show. He mention how compare to the rest of the world we, here in America have it far better. He also mention how crazy things are getting over in the European union and how England's pm is pushing for a NEW new world deal. A world wide economy with one currency. Glen went on to mention that what's happening to the EU could potentially happen here where states that are doing ok refuse to bail out bankrupt states such as California and in the worst case scenario separate from the USA and seek sovereignty . Right now Germany is refusing to bailout east European countries that are part of the EU

Yep, saw that story today. I wish all 50 states would just tell Washington, DC and especially the 'Fed' that they are no longer going to be a part of a corrupt system where fraud, deceit, criminality, money schemes, big money interests and corporatism reign supreme over the people with debt slavery, destruction of wealth and impoverishment as the end result
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I hope you guys don't follow Glen Beck just because he's a Mormon on tv. He won't even admit that there are FEMA camps. Says he will look in to it. Ha! I tell you this guy is a phony! He is no patriot. He is an employee of the faux news channel. Stick with Jones. He's a real patriot.

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TheBrotherOfJared wrote:I hope you guys don't follow Glen Beck just because he's a Mormon on tv. He won't even admit that there are FEMA camps. Says he will look in to it. Ha! I tell you this guy is a phony! He is no patriot. He is an employee of the faux news channel. Stick with Jones. He's a real patriot.
Jones is insane. I do not follow men, I follow true priniciples. 8)

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TheBrotherOfJared wrote:I hope you guys don't follow Glen Beck just because he's a Mormon on tv. He won't even admit that there are FEMA camps. Says he will look in to it. Ha! I tell you this guy is a phony! He is no patriot. He is an employee of the faux news channel. Stick with Jones. He's a real patriot.
Prove there are fema camps. I have looked into it, trust me, I am open. I have found ZERO evidence.

Alex is a loud mouth, socialist promoter, sensationalist, publicity seeking ego maniac

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Alex is a @#!!$#!%.

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Jones is insane. I do not follow men, I follow true priniciples. 8)[/quote]

Exactly!! well said, I personally like Glen although He has his moments. BTW It has nothing to do with the man's religious beliefs He could be a pagan goat worshiper for all I care.

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TheBrotherOfJared wrote:I hope you guys don't follow Glen Beck just because he's a Mormon on tv. He won't even admit that there are FEMA camps. Says he will look in to it. Ha! I tell you this guy is a phony! He is no patriot. He is an employee of the faux news channel. Stick with Jones. He's a real patriot.
Beck is a good man... he's becoming more and more aware of truths as the months go by and he's doing a good job warning people, but at the same, he has to be careful of what he says because of who he works for, which is unfortunate. If Fox News has given him a green light though to talk about whatever he wants, then why not go for broke and tell people the real, cold, hard truth? At least he's covered the fact that the 'Fed' is a private banking cartel consisting of mostly international banks that have no business controlling our monetary system... few media outlets have the guts to do even that much, but that's because of who owns the networks. Make no mistake... Beck is doing the public a service by what he covers.

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Emmanuel Goldstein wrote:
TheBrotherOfJared wrote:I hope you guys don't follow Glen Beck just because he's a Mormon on tv. He won't even admit that there are FEMA camps. Says he will look in to it. Ha! I tell you this guy is a phony! He is no patriot. He is an employee of the faux news channel. Stick with Jones. He's a real patriot.
Jones is insane. I do not follow men, I follow true priniciples. 8)
Alex is NOT insane. He's actually highly intelligent... he just goes over the top sometimes on certain subjects. He has done his homework on a LOT of issues and more often than not, you can trust his information.

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Mahonri wrote:
TheBrotherOfJared wrote:I hope you guys don't follow Glen Beck just because he's a Mormon on tv. He won't even admit that there are FEMA camps. Says he will look in to it. Ha! I tell you this guy is a phony! He is no patriot. He is an employee of the faux news channel. Stick with Jones. He's a real patriot.
Prove there are fema camps. I have looked into it, trust me, I am open. I have found ZERO evidence.

Alex is a loud mouth, socialist promoter, sensationalist, publicity seeking ego maniac

Loud mouth? At times. Socialist promoter? :roll: Sensationalist? Sometimes, but that's his 'shtick'. Publicity-seeking? Occasionally. Ego-maniac? Sometimes.

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mirkwood wrote:Alex is a @#!!$#!%.
Why makes you loathe him? Truth?

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Col. Flagg wrote:
Mahonri wrote:
TheBrotherOfJared wrote:I hope you guys don't follow Glen Beck just because he's a Mormon on tv. He won't even admit that there are FEMA camps. Says he will look in to it. Ha! I tell you this guy is a phony! He is no patriot. He is an employee of the faux news channel. Stick with Jones. He's a real patriot.
Prove there are fema camps. I have looked into it, trust me, I am open. I have found ZERO evidence.

Alex is a loud mouth, socialist promoter, sensationalist, publicity seeking ego maniac

Loud mouth? At times. Socialist promoter? :roll: Sensationalist? Sometimes, but that's his 'shtick'. Publicity-seeking? Occasionally. Ego-maniac? Sometimes.

Why would you roll your eyes? He is constantly promoting Socialists and Communists as well as their solution.

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Col. Flagg wrote:
Emmanuel Goldstein wrote:
TheBrotherOfJared wrote:I hope you guys don't follow Glen Beck just because he's a Mormon on tv. He won't even admit that there are FEMA camps. Says he will look in to it. Ha! I tell you this guy is a phony! He is no patriot. He is an employee of the faux news channel. Stick with Jones. He's a real patriot.
Jones is insane. I do not follow men, I follow true priniciples. 8)
Alex is NOT insane. He's actually highly intelligent... he just goes over the top sometimes on certain subjects. He has done his homework on a LOT of issues and more often than not, you can trust his information.
I concur with that statement Col.
Mahonri wrote:Prove there are fema camps. I have looked into it, trust me, I am open. I have found ZERO evidence.
Are you kidding?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84
FEMA Camp Footage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P-hvPJPTi4&eurl
During the Iran Contra hearings in the 1980s, the existence of a plan called Readiness Exercise 84 (Rex 84) was revealed. Rex 84 outlined a plan for concentration camps which would be placed under the operational control of FEMA should martial law need to be implemented:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug0IL7k3elQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_gD25lwjAk
KBR announces contract to construct camps:
http://www.kbr.com/news/2006/govnews_060124.aspx
There over 800 prison camps in the United States, all fully operational and ready to receive prisoners. They are all staffed and even surrounded by full-time guards, but they are all empty. These camps are to be operated by FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) should Martial Law need to be implemented in the United States and all it would take is a presidential signature on a proclamation and the attorney general's signature on a warrant to which a list of names is attached. Ask yourself if you really want to be on Ashcroft's list.

The Rex 84 Program was established on the reasoning that if a "mass exodus" of illegal aliens crossed the Mexican/US border, they would be quickly rounded up and detained in detention centers by FEMA. Rex 84 allowed many military bases to be closed down and to be turned into prisons.

Operation Cable Splicer and Garden Plot are the two sub programs which will be implemented once the Rex 84 program is initiated for its proper purpose. Garden Plot is the program to control the population. Cable Splicer is the program for an orderly takeover of the state and local governments by the federal government. FEMA is the executive arm of the coming police state and thus will head up all operations. The Presidential Executive Orders already listed on the Federal Register also are part of the legal framework for this operation.

The camps all have railroad facilities as well as roads leading to and from the detention facilities. Many also have an airport nearby. The majority of the camps can house a population of 20,000 prisoners. Currently, the largest of these facilities is just outside of Fairbanks, Alaska. The Alaskan facility is a massive mental health facility and can hold approximately 2 million people.

Now let's review the justification for any actions taken...

Executive Orders associated with FEMA that would suspend the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. These Executive Orders have been on record for nearly 30 years and could be enacted by the stroke of a Presidential pen:...

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990

allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995

allows the government to seize and control the communication media.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997

allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998

allows the government to seize all means of transportation, including personal cars, trucks or vehicles of any kind and total control over all highways, seaports, and waterways.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10999

allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000

allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001

allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002

designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005

allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051

specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310

grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049

assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921

allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months. The Federal Emergency Management Agency has broad powers in every aspect of the nation. General Frank Salzedo, chief of FEMA's Civil Security Division stated in a 1983 conference that he saw FEMA's role as a "new frontier in the protection of individual and governmental leaders from assassination, and of civil and military installations from sabotage and/or attack, as well as prevention of dissident groups from gaining access to U.S. opinion, or a global audience in times of crisis." FEMA's powers were consolidated by President Carter to incorporate the...

National Security Act of 1947

allows for the strategic relocation of industries, services, government and other essential economic activities, and to rationalize the requirements for manpower, resources and production facilities.

1950 Defense Production Act

gives the President sweeping powers over all aspects of the economy.

Act of August 29, 1916

authorizes the Secretary of the Army, in time of war, to take possession of any transportation system for transporting troops, material, or any other purpose related to the emergency.

International Emergency Economic Powers Act

enables the President to seize the property of a foreign country or national. These powers were transferred to FEMA in a sweeping consolidation in 1979.

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Mahonri wrote:
Col. Flagg wrote:
Mahonri wrote:I hope you guys don't follow Glen Beck just because he's a Mormon on tv. He won't even admit that there are FEMA camps. Says he will look in to it. Ha! I tell you this guy is a phony! He is no patriot. He is an employee of the faux news channel. Stick with Jones. He's a real patriot.
Prove there are fema camps. I have looked into it, trust me, I am open. I have found ZERO evidence.

Alex is a loud mouth, socialist promoter, sensationalist, publicity seeking ego maniac

Loud mouth? At times. Socialist promoter? :roll: Sensationalist? Sometimes, but that's his 'shtick'. Publicity-seeking? Occasionally. Ego-maniac? Sometimes.

Why would you roll your eyes? He is constantly promoting Socialists and Communists as well as their solution.
Mahonri, I think you're confusing him with someone else. Alex supported Ron Paul's candidacy for president, he's fully aware of the 9/11 fraud and has been trying to wake people up to that, he's anti-police state, anti-socialism, anti-corruption, but pro-freedom. Do your homework my friend.

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Col. Flagg wrote: Mahonri, I think you're confusing him with someone else. Alex supported Ron Paul's candidacy for president, he's fully aware of the 9/11 fraud and has been trying to wake people up to that, he's anti-police state, anti-socialism, anti-corruption, but pro-freedom. Do your homework my friend.

Ha! That is pretty arrogant. I agree with you a good chunk of the time, but that is a bit much.

I have done my homework. I know who that schmuck is, and he basically promotes anything and everything that is not mainstream, so yes, he "supported" Ron Paul. He also supports Hugo Chavez and Rosie O'Donnell, so I am not impressed with his "support" of Dr. Paul.

The evidence of what I said speaks for it self. Get your blinders off.

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I will have to concur with Col. Flagg. Alex Jones is a Christian Constitutionalist. He has said so on his show many times. He does not agree with the policies of Hugo Chavez. He is for sound constitutional and minimal government. Please do your homework.
He has many people on his show who do not share his view points. That doesn't mean he agrees with them.

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I like Glenn Beck. I feel like he is telling the truth. Perhaps that is why he is where he is, to try to wake people up.

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Col. Flagg wrote:
mirkwood wrote:Alex is a @#!!$#!%.
Why makes you loathe him? Truth?
For one, I get sick of him coddling and petting all of the future BEAST countires like Russia, China, and the Muslim nations as if they are some sort of victim of the NWO. He totally plays Satan's fiddle here. He's like an unwitting modern Assyrian. Sure we hate Babylon the Great, but the replacement is ten times worse.

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Glen Beck is behind the times, like maybe 15 years. What ever he says today has already been proven by Jones and others.

You know why they call it REX 84?

It is from George Orwell's book 1984.

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pjbrownie wrote:
Col. Flagg wrote:
mirkwood wrote:Alex is a @#!!$#!%.
Why makes you loathe him? Truth?
For one, I get sick of him coddling and petting all of the future BEAST countires like Russia, China, and the Muslim nations as if they are some sort of victim of the NWO. He totally plays Satan's fiddle here. He's like an unwitting modern Assyrian. Sure we hate Babylon the Great, but the replacement is ten times worse.

These are the exact countries that are spoken of in the Bible The Gog and Magog.

Can't wait for the army to come from under the ice in the north countries like D&C says.

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Are you Mormons blind or something? You think this Beck guy is going to give you what you need to prepare for the coming events? I suspect there will be Mormon icons in the days to come. Some will be a deceit and not even know it. Some will be leaders and know the real truth. Secret combinations are every where and Satan NEVER rests.

Beck may tell the truth but I certainly don't think he sees the future like most Jones listeners do.

People! It's going to be bad! Real bad. Like the Book of Revelation says it will be a time like none other. That means what ever evil event you can conjure up for the future, that will likely be an event to happen.

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Glen Beck actually thinks FEMA camps might be needed. Needed? For who? And if you think they are needed then doesn't that mean you believe or know they exist? But he still won't fully admit there existence.

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From what I gathered when I watched Glenn Beck was that he's been asked so much about FEMA camps, that he's sincerely trying to find out what's going on. He's not going to speculate on national TV about something like that! He's on Fox News and he must show a bit of restraint. That said, he's waking up a lot of people and I thank him for that.

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