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Lately I've been studying the TIMING of the Vaxx Mandates along with Exemptions.
Based on these data, I've developed an hypothesis regarding what TPTB are up to - and WHEN they will spring the trap. (Soon...)

But first, there are some holes in the data - and I request your help in filling in the blanks. Much of the data so far comes from: https://newswithviews.com/covid-19-vacc ... es-part-2/
Also, feel free to express your own hypotheses regarding where this all leads.

FACTS so far:
Exempt: All Pfizer and Moderna employees (why would they be exempted from the jab, if their own Va((ines are so safe and effective?)
The entire White House staff (wouldn't Joe want his own staff "protected"?)
All the Congressional staff
USPS workers
The Judicial Branch, including FBI and CIA -- all exempt I understand
All employees in the CDC and FDA (again, why exempt / protect them?)

Are there any others exempted?

NOT EXEMPT - and Deadlines (important to the picture)
All Border Patrol agents - mandated to take the jab BY 22 November 2021, or be fired
All Federal Employees and contractors - but I don't know the deadline (can you help?)
All hospital workers, nationwide - again, I don't know the deadline (can you help?) I understand that many hospitals are facing nurse shortages... so evidently the deadline is imminent.
All military personnel - I don't know the deadline (can you help?)
All employees in corporations with over 100 employees - I don't know the deadline (can you help?) Notably, Southwest Airlines is facing major problems now with "sick-outs"

Not sure about the Army Reserve - are they mandated to get the jab? if so, when is the deadline?

Thanks for your help in this research.
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Oh, yes - and all Illegal Immigrants pouring in across the southern border are Exempted from any Vaxx mandate. (The northern border I understand, is essentially closed...)

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I know info from at least one hospital and it is Dec. 15th. But they must have in their survey by Nov. 1st.

The Southwest thing is feeling huge to me. I'm hoping this is something that really gets the ball rolling for medical freedom.

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BroJones wrote: October 10th, 2021, 8:30 pm All employees in corporations with over 100 employees - I don't know the deadline (can you help?)
Question mark on this one. Biden threatened that OSHA was going to put out a ruling on vaccine mandates for companies with over 100 employees, but to date I haven't seen or heard of OSHA actually doing so. All the large corporations are acting as if this were already true.

But it's not.

Second thought: Biden can mandate it for Federal employees, because technically I think he's their boss. And he can make a ruling that it extends to Federal contractors, because they can change contractual obligations upon renewal. So any large company with over 100 employees that contracts with the Federal government is under this obligation, but those that aren't contracted with the Feds don't really have any legal reason to (as far as I understand it).

Final thought: I really like where this is going. Please keep expounding.

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ZH has an article up detailing military deadlines. Oh, by the way, I love you Brother Jones.

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/stag ... s-approach

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My brother works at Southwest Airlines. I’ll try to get some insider info although he is only a lowly ramp supervisor and may not hear much.

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Note 1:
I heard that the "pharma employees exempt" was debunked and that they DO require it. (Same with CDC and FDA). I would love to be wrong. Can someone prove this either way? (Not with a meme, but with real documentation)

Note 2:
The mandate for federal contractors and federal subcontractors is EO 14042. It applies to ALL regardless of company size. Also, this EO applies to new and modified contracts. But for most contractors that happens frequently enough that the effect is basically immediate. However the deadline to comply is December 8th.

Note 3:
Native American Tribes are exempt.

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BroJones wrote: October 10th, 2021, 8:33 pm Oh, yes - and all Illegal Immigrants pouring in across the southern border are Exempted from any Vaxx mandate. (The northern border I understand, is essentially closed...)

I really want to know what you think the trap is that they are going to spring.

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Will the trap wake up the people in denial?

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Chip wrote: October 10th, 2021, 9:39 pm
BroJones wrote: October 10th, 2021, 8:33 pm Oh, yes - and all Illegal Immigrants pouring in across the southern border are Exempted from any Vaxx mandate. (The northern border I understand, is essentially closed...)

I really want to know what you think the trap is that they are going to spring.
Not so sure its a trap as it is looking like a controlled demolition of the west. Mass layoffs/firings about to happen for healthcare workers, firefighters, cops, pilots, military etc and a poison jab for everybody else who remains behind. Can't think of a better way to totally collapse the system to be honest

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PeacefulProtests wrote: October 10th, 2021, 10:04 pm
Chip wrote: October 10th, 2021, 9:39 pm
BroJones wrote: October 10th, 2021, 8:33 pm Oh, yes - and all Illegal Immigrants pouring in across the southern border are Exempted from any Vaxx mandate. (The northern border I understand, is essentially closed...)

I really want to know what you think the trap is that they are going to spring.
Not so sure its a trap as it is looking like a controlled demolition of the west. Mass layoffs/firings about to happen for healthcare workers, firefighters, cops, pilots, military etc and a poison jab for everybody else who remains behind. Can't think of a better way to totally collapse the system to be honest

Yes, I agree. It's like they want to wreck everything as rapidly as possible. Kick the legs out from under the table.

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mahalanobis wrote: October 10th, 2021, 9:04 pm

Native American Tribes are exempt.
That is interesting, given the Book of Mormon prophecy.
Does anyone know if there is a lot of opposition to the vax amongst the tribes?
I know the Canadian government have been specifically targeting the First Nations for the vaccine.

Also, what about the Amish and Mennonites?

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According to the article below the active duty army faces a Dec. 15th deadline.
*Note: I also watched a recent video speculating that the reason was to cause enough troops to quit in order that they would need to bring in U.N. troops/peacekeepers.
It at least seems like we will be weakened from within and possibly at the border which could bring on a full on invasion not only of U.N. but also more people flooding in at the border. Combine that with all the people quitting in these other important occupations like healthcare workers, trucking, airlines, etc. Perhaps we are looking at a full on collapse by the end of the year. They've also postponed the debt ceiling until early Dec. I believe they know it can't/won't be paid and it will finally be time to pay the piper.
One radio program I listen to quoted a comment made by Biden in which he said that 'things will be very different by the end of of year.'
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... e-mandate/

Federal Contractors have until Dec. 8th
https://www.fisherphillips.com/news-ins ... ccess.html

I believe with the companies that have 100 or more employees, they are waiting for more OSHA guidelines before a deadline will be put out. However my best guess with the way things are moving is that it would also be sometime in Dec. before years end.
https://www.thecut.com/2021/10/bidens-v ... -know.html

Looking forward to hearing your hypothesis Brother Jones. 😀

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They seem to use winter as a kind of weapon. The reason there is so much trouble in Oz and NZ is that they are just coming out of their winter... now the Northern Hemisphere is going into its one, they're pushing this ever harder.

The reasons are that people have to stay indoors in winter, the weather is worse in many places and people eat and even socialise more. So easier to manipulate people then.

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Robin Hood wrote: October 11th, 2021, 12:05 am
mahalanobis wrote: October 10th, 2021, 9:04 pm

Native American Tribes are exempt.
That is interesting, given the Book of Mormon prophecy.
Does anyone know if there is a lot of opposition to the vax amongst the tribes?
I know the Canadian government have been specifically targeting the First Nations for the vaccine.

Also, what about the Amish and Mennonites?
From what I'm hearing very few Amish are getting theirs. Probably harder to brainwash people without TVs. But I see the Amish as a canary in the coalmine as far as America goes. As soon as the state persecutes them, the rest of the US is in trouble. I know they have their internal issues, but the Amish do little harm to anyone else and should be left alone.

Also hearing that US and Canadian natives are very hesistant too. There are one or two on this board - one was saying (apologies for forgetting your name - poss Truthseeker77?) that this wasn't the case on his/her rez, and that the tribal governments were getting big money thrown at them to push this. That said, I gather most natives don't fall under tribal governments these days, because they live elsewhere. If anyone has a better idea than me, please say so.

Some discussion here - Truthseeker is registered with the Eastern Cherokee and mentions some disgusting emotional blackmail being used there:
viewtopic.php?f=1&p=1166986#p1166986
TruthSeeker77 wrote: August 16th, 2021, 8:32 am While I cannot provide you with actual statistics (basically because I do not believe it is possible), I can give you my thoughts based on my personal experience. I am an enrolled member of the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians, and while I do not live on the reservation, I live very close to it. I also attended the Cherokee Ward, until it got real dumb, real fast.

... true to their word, the tribe was the earliest people to get the vax. They even provided it to children 12 and up without parental consent, even when the rest of the state was requiring it. Now, to be clear, there was also a massive campaign of fear mongering and propaganda on the rez. "Protect your elders" and "Show respect" signs can be seen everywhere on the reservation. The level of fear among my people was astounding and troubling, which is the least I can say about it. Especially from a "sovereign" nation who hate white people and the government, but that's another post entirely...

Our Principal Chief has already shown himself to be highly corrupt and money driven. Our tribe received a HUGE payout from the feds branded as COVID reflief. I mean, HUGE. And most of that money is not accounted for... You could not get on the boundary unless you were an enrolled member or lived there....

As soon as vaccine distribution began on the rez, I thought "I wonder if you get a free small pox blanket with your jab..." LOL Funny, but not funny, right?

My point of this post is that we, us brown folk, are being TARGETED for the vaccine. TARGETED.
Blacks are another hesitant group. On this side of the Atlantic too. I suppose like native Americans, they have heard many stories of the authorities attacking them and are reluctant as a result. BLM may be Soros-funded but that effort has backfired in this case. UK YouTube has a lot of NHS adverts targetted at Muslims and blacks, so they're obviously aware of the issue, even though they are trying not to advertise it.

The groups I'm not hearing much about are vegans (since the shot is not vegan at all, being tested on animals), left wing anarchists, Roman Catholics (apart from some principled priests - where is their usual outrage on the use of foetuses?) I suspect all of these groups have some angry members, but we're not hearing about it, because it's being covered up. There are also issues with mass vaccination in India and parts of Africa, but again very little news getting out.

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I remember seeing a news article talking about the Mennonites here the other day. There is no religious exemption for them.
Robin Hood wrote: October 11th, 2021, 12:05 am Also, what about the Amish and Mennonites?
No religious exemptions from COVID-19 vaccines: Mennonite Church Canada

‘...The command to love God and love our neighbour is paramount. Vaccinations allow us to live out this command.’

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Niemand wrote: October 11th, 2021, 3:26 am
Robin Hood wrote: October 11th, 2021, 12:05 am
mahalanobis wrote: October 10th, 2021, 9:04 pm

Native American Tribes are exempt.
That is interesting, given the Book of Mormon prophecy.
Does anyone know if there is a lot of opposition to the vax amongst the tribes?
I know the Canadian government have been specifically targeting the First Nations for the vaccine.

Also, what about the Amish and Mennonites?
From what I'm hearing very few Amish are getting theirs. Probably harder to brainwash people without TVs. But I see the Amish as a canary in the coalmine as far as America goes. As soon as the state persecutes them, the rest of the US is in trouble. I know they have their internal issues, but the Amish do little harm to anyone else and should be left alone.

Also hearing that US and Canadian natives are very hesistant too. There are one or two on this board - one was saying (apologies for forgetting your name - poss Truthseeker77?) that this wasn't the case on his/her rez, and that the tribal governments were getting big money thrown at them to push this. That said, I gather most natives don't fall under tribal governments these days, because they live elsewhere. If anyone has a better idea than me, please say so.

Some discussion here - Truthseeker is registered with the Eastern Cherokee and mentions some disgusting emotional blackmail being used there:
viewtopic.php?f=1&p=1166986#p1166986
TruthSeeker77 wrote: August 16th, 2021, 8:32 am While I cannot provide you with actual statistics (basically because I do not believe it is possible), I can give you my thoughts based on my personal experience. I am an enrolled member of the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians, and while I do not live on the reservation, I live very close to it. I also attended the Cherokee Ward, until it got real dumb, real fast.

... true to their word, the tribe was the earliest people to get the vax. They even provided it to children 12 and up without parental consent, even when the rest of the state was requiring it. Now, to be clear, there was also a massive campaign of fear mongering and propaganda on the rez. "Protect your elders" and "Show respect" signs can be seen everywhere on the reservation. The level of fear among my people was astounding and troubling, which is the least I can say about it. Especially from a "sovereign" nation who hate white people and the government, but that's another post entirely...

Our Principal Chief has already shown himself to be highly corrupt and money driven. Our tribe received a HUGE payout from the feds branded as COVID reflief. I mean, HUGE. And most of that money is not accounted for... You could not get on the boundary unless you were an enrolled member or lived there....

As soon as vaccine distribution began on the rez, I thought "I wonder if you get a free small pox blanket with your jab..." LOL Funny, but not funny, right?

My point of this post is that we, us brown folk, are being TARGETED for the vaccine. TARGETED.
Blacks are another hesitant group. On this side of the Atlantic too. I suppose like native Americans, they have heard many stories of the authorities attacking them and are reluctant as a result. BLM may be Soros-funded but that effort has backfired in this case. UK YouTube has a lot of NHS adverts targetted at Muslims and blacks, so they're obviously aware of the issue, even though they are trying not to advertise it.

The groups I'm not hearing much about are vegans (since the shot is not vegan at all, being tested on animals), left wing anarchists, Roman Catholics (apart from some principled priests - where is their usual outrage on the use of foetuses?) I suspect all of these groups have some angry members, but we're not hearing about it, because it's being covered up. There are also issues with mass vaccination in India and parts of Africa, but again very little news getting out.
Hi Niemand. Here is the latest for the Eastern Band:

https://theonefeather.com/2021/09/16/fa ... -vax-cash/

Also, as of Sept 28, they stated rolling out boosters. See attached pic from our Principal Chief's Facebook page.
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And here is some info about money given to tribes for "COVID Relief." This was a second allotment. Our tribe specifically received two major payouts, one in 2020 and then another in 2021.


https://www.acf.hhs.gov/occ/data/crrsa- ... ons-tribes

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mahalanobis wrote: October 10th, 2021, 9:04 pm Note 1:
I heard that the "pharma employees exempt" was debunked and that they DO require it. (Same with CDC and FDA). I would love to be wrong. Can someone prove this either way? (Not with a meme, but with real documentation)

Note 2:
The mandate for federal contractors and federal subcontractors is EO 14042. It applies to ALL regardless of company size. Also, this EO applies to new and modified contracts. But for most contractors that happens frequently enough that the effect is basically immediate. However the deadline to comply is December 8th.

Note 3:
Native American Tribes are exempt.
The vaccine is being pushed HARD on my reservation. I have not heard we are exempt, and on the contrary, we are considered "marginalized" so TPTB have determined that we need the vaccine first.

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Here's another little campaign they've got going on the rez:

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President Biden announced a plan to require all private employers with one hundred (100) or more employees to ensure that their workers are fully vaccinated against COVID-19, or produce a negative COVID-19 test each week. So the question is how will they handle testing if they do not require the vaccine. Half my office is unvaccinated and would probably quit. So it will be interesting how they will roll this out

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I work full-time for Department of Energy. Dec 8th is the "drop dead" date for my full time job. For my National Guard Job it has mostly been up to each state's TAG, but it appears to be approximately the same on average. For Arizona the date is 2 Dec. However, for the National Guard, there is a process for requesting a waiver and it's expected to take 2-3 months at a minimum to process any waivers.

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TruthSeeker77 wrote: October 11th, 2021, 5:58 am Hi Niemand. Here is the latest for the Eastern Band:

https://theonefeather.com/2021/09/16/fa ... -vax-cash/

Also, as of Sept 28, they stated rolling out boosters. See attached pic from our Principal Chief's Facebook page.Screenshot_20211011-075639_Facebook.jpg


And here is some info about money given to tribes for "COVID Relief." This was a second allotment. Our tribe specifically received two major payouts, one in 2020 and then another in 2021.


https://www.acf.hhs.gov/occ/data/crrsa- ... ons-tribes
I'm pretty disgusted by what you've shown us. One of the things that pains me is how they want to brand people like you and me as "granny killers". That whole "Respect your Elders" thing... the exact same emotional blackmail I see here in Scotland. I don't blame any native American being suspicious of the Federal Government for obvious reasons... I imagine due to bureaucratic structures that larger tribes like Navajo or Cherokee get more Covid attention and money, whereas smaller ones will be lower down the list. Much like with churches (I think the LDS will be part way down the list - way below Catholics, but above tin tabernacles.)

Funny how never mention how this thing is being used to gradually usher in a global electronIc ID system. It's already happened in continental Europe, Israel, Canada, Australia and NZ. None of the Christian apologists can justify something which is becoming similar to the Mark of the Beast in controlling how people buy and sell. (Personally I suspect it is a precursor, which is bad enough.) They also cannot justify the active and obvious attacks on our Christian faith. I half joked that our ward should meet in our local big supermarket, since you could do what you wanted in there.

Much appreciate your input by the way. I tend to get any info on these things third or fourth hand, so it's good to hear from someone on the ground. I've been able to witness a few things myself - we have two ward members in hospital with Covid the now, both "double vaccinated".

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TruthSeeker77 wrote: October 11th, 2021, 6:15 am Screenshot_20211011-081426_Facebook.jpgHere's another little campaign they've got going on the rez:
They use that "stay safe" nonsense here too. Thing is that I don't feel safe at all, and it's NOT because of any virus. The real threat to my safety and well-being is not biological.

Some subliminal stuff in that art - bunnies and kids at the bottom, predators at the top. Maybe not intended but that's what it looks like.

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TruthSeeker77 wrote: October 11th, 2021, 6:05 am
mahalanobis wrote: October 10th, 2021, 9:04 pm Note 1:
I heard that the "pharma employees exempt" was debunked and that they DO require it. (Same with CDC and FDA). I would love to be wrong. Can someone prove this either way? (Not with a meme, but with real documentation)

Note 2:
The mandate for federal contractors and federal subcontractors is EO 14042. It applies to ALL regardless of company size. Also, this EO applies to new and modified contracts. But for most contractors that happens frequently enough that the effect is basically immediate. However the deadline to comply is December 8th.

Note 3:
Native American Tribes are exempt.
The vaccine is being pushed HARD on my reservation. I have not heard we are exempt, and on the contrary, we are considered "marginalized" so TPTB have determined that we need the vaccine first.
Yeah that's that I've heard. But EO 14042 explicitly exempts them (from that particular mandate). My guess is that it was done that way for legal reasons to make it harder to overturn in the courts.

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mahalanobis wrote: October 11th, 2021, 7:52 am
TruthSeeker77 wrote: October 11th, 2021, 6:05 am
mahalanobis wrote: October 10th, 2021, 9:04 pm Note 1:
I heard that the "pharma employees exempt" was debunked and that they DO require it. (Same with CDC and FDA). I would love to be wrong. Can someone prove this either way? (Not with a meme, but with real documentation)

Note 2:
The mandate for federal contractors and federal subcontractors is EO 14042. It applies to ALL regardless of company size. Also, this EO applies to new and modified contracts. But for most contractors that happens frequently enough that the effect is basically immediate. However the deadline to comply is December 8th.

Note 3:
Native American Tribes are exempt.
The vaccine is being pushed HARD on my reservation. I have not heard we are exempt, and on the contrary, we are considered "marginalized" so TPTB have determined that we need the vaccine first.
Yeah that's that I've heard. But EO 14042 explicitly exempts them (from that particular mandate). My guess is that it was done that way for legal reasons to make it harder to overturn in the courts.

I was not aware of this!! Do you have a link??? I'd love to be able to shove it in people's faces. Lol.

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