Statement that could be seen as gaslighting

[Thinker]

This topic of gaslighting may be among the most important things to be brought out of the dark & made aware of. It is so common in the cultish church leadership & thus also fanatic followers. On top of that, the culture seems to becoming increasingly narcissistic, shifting responsibility to others, especially those who already have integrity issues.

I just listened to this podcast & will include notes:

Jay & Dr Ramani narc red flags https://youtu.be/z4z93S8ri4U
^:35 (Dr:) Healthy relationship: compassionate, flexible, respectful, cooperative, collaborative, equitable, self-awareness, investing in growth of partner (& self)…
:43 when a person is repeatedly gaslighted/blamed/denied reality - that breaks the person’s spirit.
:46: (Jay:) Sad when people already have attachment issues & then after gaslighted repeatedly their self-doubt, self-criticism & anxiety r through the roof.
:47 (Dr:) Do therapeutic work (ideally before encountering gaslighting): “Who am I? What am I about? What is my identity? How do I stand as a person? What do I believe in & care about?… also your intention, the essence of who u r trying to b…”. Then when someone hurts u or makes u doubt yourself, talk to yourself reassuringly & do something to uplift u.
:50 when someone gaslights her, she doesn’t argue but may say, “ok, we’re just seeing it in different ways” Don’t go deep! Don’t defend, don’t engage, explain or personalize. DISENGAGE!
:58 about 1/2 stay w narc. If u do, expect: to be invalidated, not get emotional needs met, narc won’t empathize w u & will remain entitled. B ready for roller coaster of good & bad days - don’t personalize it. U will need to do inner work so u don’t fall for what narc tells u. Build your sense of self-worth & support (God/spiritual, friends, therapy etc). Even for the most healthy person, being in a relationship w a narc will take a toll on u.
1:00 ultimate healing w narc relationship is individualization. U become u, however u need to b guarded w narc - to not let them see all of u. Show all of u to those more trustworthy. It’s not that you r less than but r caring for yourself by restraining your more vulnerable/genuine/deeper parts when around repeatedly-abusive people. That self-care is literally an act of rebellion.

[Thinker]

I just had a healing laugh in this clip at about 7:30 when he said, “As if they took a weekend course on gaslighting to implement.”
https://youtu.be/FISZshe9L3s?feature=shared

Would would such a course and class of students look like?! Maybe there were other courses like “How to play the roll of … a s -… “ etc.

No, there’s no formal education on how to act dysfunctionally. It comes natural - and often subconsciously! Amazing how intelligence can be used for good or evil.