Is this the literal mark of the beast?

[GeeR]

When I read this short article I thought: “Is this the literal mark of the beast that will be displayed on the forehead and hand that will qualify one to buy and sell in the market place?” What do you think?

Virginia introduces QR codes to verify COVID-19 vaccination

https://justthenews.com/nation/states/v ... ggregators

[markharr]

It can't be the mark of the beast unless you are put to death for refusing it.

[GeeR]

It can't be the mark of the beast unless you are put to death for refusing it.

Hey, this is a new thing that is just getting started. Will it be an on going development like the frog in higher and higher heat temperatures until the frog is boiled to death?

[tribrac]

You guys need to dig deeper into the probably sensational Christian endtimes conspiracies.

Lots of entertainingaterial there .

One i read a couple of weeks ago is a self vaccination program where vaccinces are delivered through the skin from a bandage like device that is left on the skin for a day. When you take the bandage off it leaves a mark in your skin to show you self vaccinated.

The christians were adamant that the bible says people choose to mark themselves.

[GeeR]

The christians were adamant that the bible says people choose to mark themselves.

I guess I'm not familiar with that scripture, where is It?

[TruthSeeker77]

When I read this short article I thought: “Is this the literal mark of the beast that will be displayed on the forehead and hand that will qualify one to buy and sell in the market place?” What do you think?

Virginia introduces QR codes to verify COVID-19 vaccination

https://justthenews.com/nation/states/v ... ggregators

I definitely feel that at the very least, it is preparation for the mark.

[Jason]

It can't be the mark of the beast unless you are put to death for refusing it.

...not to far off from that. Good number of places in the world where it is difficult and in some cases impossible to buy/sell without proof of vaccination...

...if its not the real thing...its paving the way...

[markharr]

It can't be the mark of the beast unless you are put to death for refusing it.

Hey, this is a new thing that is just getting started. Will it be an on going development like the frog in higher and higher heat temperatures until the frog is boiled to death?

It's scripture. Specifically revelation 13.

15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

And then this happens. So only those who worship the beast are given the mark. Those who refused to worship the beast are dead.

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

But, it you are good and righteous person, you will be preserved in the wilderness before this happens. Because this happens in the previous chapter.

13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.

14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

Those in Zion will be protected from a lot of the end days judgements but they will not be protected from the persecutions that happen before they flee to zion.

[mahalanobis]

It can't be the mark of the beast unless you are put to death for refusing it.

My understanding of the prophecy is that

1) first there will be a mark that is buy/sell
2) then a certain leader that rises up (or event occurs) that transitions the system to include death penalty for non-compliance.

My guess is that the full implementation will be related to social credit. And the rules for a "high credit score" will start with vaccines then morph over time to include everything associated with being a good global citizen. Eventually that will of course include denying Christ. Otherwise you'll be a suspected terrorist-sympathizer (ya know, all those domestic terrorist white supremacists bogeymen out there)

[tribrac]

The christians were adamant that the bible says people choose to mark themselves.

I guess I'm not familiar with that scripture, where is It?

The Bible.

[tribrac]

Sorry, i dont have a reference but they were sure it had to be freely accepted not physically forced on you and not tricked into getting it.

They argued there would be many forerunners and similar marks but the mark of the beast would be a clear choice...after the beast arrived on the scene.

Worship the beast by getting the mark. Get the mark and you get all these benefits.

[Robin Hood]

It can't be the mark of the beast unless you are put to death for refusing it.

Give it time.

[markharr]

What is the mark of the beast according to LDS doctrine? The new Testament manual says.

This may symbolize that the wicked show by their actions (hands) and beliefs (heads) that they do the will of the beast and accept his ideology. However, the precise meaning of “the mark” has not been revealed.

I agree with that. Does this mean that there will not be a literal Mark of the beast. I believe there will be. It makes sense to me that Lucifer would brand his cattle. A lot of scriptures have both literal and symbolic translation.

A comment was made that this is preparation for the mark of the beast and it absolutely is. Think back on your life and think about all of the times you were trained from youth to be an obedient slave instead of a willing follower. During each and every one of those times, you were trained for the mark of the beast.

[markharr]

It can't be the mark of the beast unless you are put to death for refusing it.

My understanding of the prophecy is that

1) first there will be a mark that is buy/sell
2) then a certain leader that rises up (or event occurs) that transitions the system to include death penalty for non-compliance.

My guess is that the full implementation will be related to social credit. And the rules for a "high credit score" will start with vaccines then morph over time to include everything associated with being a good global citizen. Eventually that will of course include denying Christ. Otherwise you'll be a suspected terrorist-sympathizer (ya know, all those domestic terrorist white supremacists bogeymen out there)

That's not the order that it's written in Revelation 13

[markharr]

Just my personal thoughts and opinions that are partially backed by scripture.

I think the mark of the beast and the oath are conscription into Lucifer's massive army. Specifically, the massive army of 200 million that marches on Israel. The Oath obviously extends beyond military conscription because you can't buy or sell without the mark so obviously it extends beyond that but think about the military of any nation. It's not all just front-line soldiers. There is a lot of it that is administrative and support. Likely as the army marches, it defeats nation after nation and as each nation is defeated, those who survive are forced to join or die.

Or... They can flee to Zion.

These are my scriptures to back it up.

In D&C 45, we are told several things.

That Lucifers armies do not dare go against Zion.

That anyone who does not want to take a sword against their neighbor will have to feel to Zion. It specifically mentions the wicked here meaning even the wicked who want peace will have to flee to Zion. I don't believe the wicked will be allowed in the city itself but will live in the perimeter and those in Zion will go out and minister to them. This is the harvest of the olives where the Lord shakes the tree and the harvest comes to us.

Members of every nation in the world will flee there.

it is the only place in the world where there will be peace

65 And with one heart and with one mind, gather up your riches that ye may purchase an inheritance which shall hereafter be appointed unto you.

66 And it shall be called the New Jerusalem, a land of peace, a city of refuge, a place of safety for the saints of the Most High God;

67 And the glory of the Lord shall be there, and the terror of the Lord also shall be there, insomuch that the wicked will not come unto it, and it shall be called Zion.

68 And it shall come to pass among the wicked, that every man that will not take his sword against his neighbor must needs flee unto Zion for safety.

69 And there shall be gathered unto it out of every nation under heaven; and it shall be the only people that shall not be at war one with another.

70 And it shall be said among the wicked: Let us not go up to battle against Zion, for the inhabitants of Zion are terrible; wherefore we cannot stand.

71 And it shall come to pass that the righteous shall be gathered out from among all nations, and shall come to Zion, singing with songs of everlasting joy.

In D&C 27 we read that there will be more than just members of the church at Adam-Ondi-Ahmen.

14 And also with all those whom my Father hath given me out of the world.

[InfoWarrior82]

It can't be the mark of the beast unless you are put to death for refusing it.

That's later...

[markharr]

It can't be the mark of the beast unless you are put to death for refusing it.

That's later...

Once again.

That is not the order it is written in.

[markharr]

Revelation as a whole is not written in chronological order but parts of it are in chronological order. I guess what is up for debate here is if that part of revelation 13 is in chronological order.

[InfoWarrior82]

It can't be the mark of the beast unless you are put to death for refusing it.

That's later...

Once again.

That is not the order it is written in.

I don't think the following has to necessarily be in chronological order. Just a list of things to watch for.



15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

[TrueFaith]

I think many leftists will follow the description because they know it bothers Christians. I think they literally try to mock us on purpose. So in a way, it's not so much a fulfilling of prophecy as it is liberals with daddy issues...which then becomes a self fulfillment of the book of Revelations...if that makes sense.

So I have no doubt they understand perfectly what the Bible says and are trying to replicate it one step at a time. They use the imagery all the time; "luciferase", 6 feet social distancing, 6 million, etc. So what is happening right now IS the Mark of the Beast for all intent and purposes. The left understands this perfectly.

[Godislove]

Interestingly enough....on a fairly recent purchase I made (baby formula) I noticed right next to the barcode was depicted a small picture of a hand that was being scanned....it showed kind of like a cross-mark over the hand placed between the thumb and the forefinger like that area was being scanned. If I knew how to post and upload the photo here, I would do it so you could see what it looks like.
The fact that this was depicted right next to the barcode shows me how near this is.
I also find it interesting because I recently watched a video of a man who had dreamed about being forced to take it and he said that this area between the thumb and forefinger is where they were putting it, if I understood correctly.

[markharr]

It can't be the mark of the beast unless you are put to death for refusing it.

That's later...

Once again.

That is not the order it is written in.

I don't think the following has to necessarily be in chronological order. Just a list of things to watch for.



15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

My interpretation of "And" is that it happens around the same time.

As an example.. "I went to the Grocery store AND bought some bread"

Meaning the oath, and the mark happen at roughly the same time. You are made to worship the beast which I interpret to mean take an oath to the beast to do his will, or be put to death if you refuse. If you have taken the oath you are then immediately given the mark which is a spiritual mark but is likely also a literal mark so that followers of Lucifer can distinguish foe from friend. They can know who has been forced to swear allegiance and who has not.

[Juliet]

It can't be the mark of the beast unless you are put to death for refusing it.

The media is taken over so if people are put to death we most likely won't hear about it. People can disappear quite easily now. And there are laws on the books, according to Lisa Haven and Celeste Solum, they can round up terrorists for homeschooling or believing in God, and if two doctors sign off, they can legally end your life.

[markharr]

One scripture that I missed previously when I was presenting evidence for my interpretation that taking the mark is conscription into Lucifer's army.

This passage from revelation 13.

7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

[markharr]

It can't be the mark of the beast unless you are put to death for refusing it.

The media is taken over so if people are put to death we most likely won't hear about it. People can disappear quite easily now. And there are laws on the books, according to Lisa Haven and Celeste Solum, they can round up terrorists for homeschooling or believing in God, and if two doctors sign off, they can legally end your life.

Are there people who are taken in secret and told to swear an oath to lucifer and warned that they will be killed if they ever divulge it?

I absolutely believe that is happening. That was the oath that Cain took and it has been passed down and exists even now. I think that could be counted as the mark of the beast. My interpretation of Revelation 13 is that it is some sort of mass event.

A second beast performs some sort of a demonstration of miracles and wonders to a large group of people. The description of the miracles sound a lot like advanced military tech.

And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

And the members of this audience are deceived and wonder who can defeat this tech or army and so they give in and take the oath to join it. Those who do are marked. Those who do not are put to death likely by the same tech that was just demonstrated for them.