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A secret society so secret I mean good luck finding any info on these guys that isn't propaganda. Every website I can find on them you get the feeling something isn't right. I've noticed that even the most credible people out there know little or nothing about them. Paul Jensen (ktalk) has been looking into it and has found bits of info. Any of his reliable guests hardly know anything. Any good info would be greatly appreciated.

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Let's start with two links. The first is the web page to the Pilgrims Society itself at: http://www.pilgrimsociety.org The second is the Wikipedia entry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilgrims_Society

From these two one would conclude that it is a British society dedicated to the good relations between the United States and the United Kingdom.

However from the tenor of you question one would suspect you're after more nefarious information because in the world of LDSFF nothing is ever just as it seems.

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gkearney wrote: September 19th, 2021, 12:30 pm Let's start with two links. The first is the web page to the Pilgrims Society itself at: http://www.pilgrimsociety.org The second is the Wikipedia entry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilgrims_Society

From these two one would conclude that it is a British society dedicated to the good relations between the United States and the United Kingdom.

However from the tenor of you question one would suspect you're after more nefarious information because in the world of LDSFF nothing is ever just as it seems.
Interesting. But unlike the UN website I don't see anything nefarious or bragging about nefarious works.

The names on Wikipedia are the same as the ones I have found on other lists. No Rothschilds were mentioned. Henry Kissinger was mentioned for better or for way worse. I don't consider any of those names listed as being role models or people I would want to invite to my birthday party 🎉.

About the only thing I have heard about them is they have a lot of control over mainstream media. I once heard John Huntsman Sr. Was a member but couldn't find him on a list anywhere.

Until I have been proven facts I question everything. Wikipedia is about as reliable as a corporate attorney with a dagger in his back pocket.

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My limited understanding is that they were originally composed of the elite non-jewish founding families of this country who maintained financial and familal connections to Great Britain. Probably composed of those whom went along with the revolution but were Loyalists at heart. No doubt the Episcopal church plays a large part in their lives, but not only for religious reasons. I suspect Mitt is likely connected to this group through both his father and his mother's side as well as many other Mormons you would never suspect. This would explain how a poor Mexican born Latter-day Saint crossed the border and became the Govenor of Michigan. Rags to riches indeed.

Just my opinion.

But the main thing to know is:

"It's a big club, and you ain't in it"

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Atlanticism is a pretty common-or-garden doctrine. The most obvious manifestation of it is NATO. There is an obvious link between the UK Ireland, Canada and USA in terms of language.

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Niemand wrote: September 20th, 2021, 12:49 am Atlanticism is a pretty common-or-garden doctrine. The most obvious manifestation of it is NATO. There is an obvious link between the UK Ireland, Canada and USA in terms of language.
Indeed perhaps the biggest failure of the European Union was the failure to understand that the UK had far more in common, politically, socially, and culturally with the United States, Canada and Australia than it ever did with continental Europe. As recent events have so clearly shown.

Furthermore the UK has in it grasp the means to carry on trade and cultural ties that no European nation can match in the form of the Commonwealth and its connection with the United States which might as well be a defacto member of the Commonwealth.
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gkearney wrote: September 20th, 2021, 1:12 am
Niemand wrote: September 20th, 2021, 12:49 am Atlanticism is a pretty common-or-garden doctrine. The most obvious manifestation of it is NATO. There is an obvious link between the UK Ireland, Canada and USA in terms of language.
Indeed perhaps the biggest failure of the European Union was the failure to understand that the UK had far more in common, politically, socially, and culturally with the United States, Canada and Australia than it ever did with continental Europe. As recent events have so clearly shown.

Furthermore the UK had in it grasp the means to carry on trade and cultural ties that no European nation can match in the form of the Commonwealth and its connection with the United States which might as well be a defacto member of the Commonwealth.
It's strange, but I would say yes and no. About the nearest other equivalent would be France which retains some overseas territory.

It gets complicated when you talk about Scotland and Ireland because they each have a slightly different relationship to the Commonwealth/US and there are differences between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland over this.

I have more relatives in the States than I do over here and most people have family over in Canada and Oz (NZ too to a lesser extent). South Africa's a bit more complicated!!!

The main difference is geography. We do have a lot of ties to Continental Europe because it's next door and easier to get to for holidays/vacations. Their food and drink is also great. I think someone once said a hundred years is a long time to an American and a hundred miles is a long distance to a European, so we're European in that sense.

It gets more complex with attitudes I think, but we share some of our political mindset with the US. However, there is more feudalism and socialism here (sometimes in the same people - however that works!)

Most of Continental Europe has been under dictatorships in living memory. Half of Europe was openly Communist in my lifetime, and a lot of it was under Fascism and Nazism a few generations ago. Including the likes of Greece, Belgium, Norway and Portugal... and US-Canada-Aus-NZ-UK-ROI haven't... although Oz is trying hard to go down that road.

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HVDC wrote: September 19th, 2021, 8:48 pm My limited understanding is that they were originally composed of the elite non-jewish founding families of this country who maintained financial and familal connections to Great Britain. Probably composed of those whom went along with the revolution but were Loyalists at heart. No doubt the Episcopal church plays a large part in their lives, but not only for religious reasons. I suspect Mitt is likely connected to this group through both his father and his mother's side as well as many other Mormons you would never suspect. This would explain how a poor Mexican born Latter-day Saint crossed the border and became the Govenor of Michigan. Rags to riches indeed.

Just my opinion.

But the main thing to know is:

"It's a big club, and you ain't in it"

George Carlin.

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Romney associate Robert Maxwell came to mind when you mentioned Romney. Definitely one of those big names that appears in elite groups and circles and major contributor to Bain Capital. Besides his involvement with the Mossod and his daughter being Epstein's mistress.

I started to look into Bain Capital and the Pilgrims Society and limited info showing but more than I could find before.
Well we are probably getting somewhere now. Rockefellers, Clinton foundation, etc. Still dead ends.

Birds of a feather flock together is important to remember when researching.

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Found this a few years ago on this group. MEET THE WORLD MONEY POWER
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I've heard from a few different people that they believe the Pilgrims Society is one of the main worldwide conspiratorial groups controlling things.

On the surface these groups typically seem like an ordinary networking group, and some of these groups attract the top worldwide leaders to their meetings. What you see in public is the outer circle, the public facing aspect of the group. Much less is known about the inner circles of such groups.
https://tinyurl.com/plgrms

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creator wrote: March 17th, 2023, 1:52 pm I've heard from a few different people that they believe the Pilgrims Society is one of the main worldwide conspiratorial groups controlling things.

On the surface these groups typically seem like an ordinary networking group, and some of these groups attract the top worldwide leaders to their meetings. What you see in public is the outer circle, the public facing aspect of the group. Much less is known about the inner circles of such groups.
https://tinyurl.com/plgrms
Thanks. This is great. I have head Paul Jenson KTALK radio mention them several times and really no one else I can think of. He has said the same exact thing you did. They are a big deal. Reading the list of members made that pretty clear. One time one of Pauls guests asked Alex Newman about them and he really didn't know anything. I was really stunned.

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Its main aim is to maintain Anglophone(*) hegemony over the rest of the world, and to undo the breach between the two main factions (the British Commonwealth and US blocs) caused by the independence of the USA. Promote the "Special Relationship" in other words. It is likely the moving force behind:
* The London-New York financial/stock market axis. It is amazing London still has this kind of financial clout.
* Propping up the British royal family, and American military presence in Commonwealth countries.
* British tax havens/offshore banking interests – Cayman islands, Bermuda, Virgin Islands, Channel Islands, Isle of Man etc.
* NATO which has major Anglophone dominance in the US-Canada-UK triumvirate, which is projected over the Atlantic, Europe and Middle East.
* ANZUS, a Pacific equivalent to NATO,.minus Canada, but projected into the Asia-Pacific-Indian Ocean regions.
* The Five Eyes, maintaining the dominance of Anglophone intelligence gathering and military worldwide.
* CHOGM - Commonwealth Heads of Government Meetings & the Commonwealth Games.
* The Trilateral Commission, which projects their power into the likes of Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, France, Scandinavia, the Netherlands and Germany. Other alliances/agreements between the UK and France going back over a century.
* Popular media – not just Hollywood, but also helping promote the disproportionate British contribution to global pop and rock. (Not saying British bands are bad, but they may have a helping hand.)
* I suspect soft power via Anglicanism and other denominations centred around these nations. Maybe this includes major Methodist, Baptist and Presbyterian bodies, as well as Mormonism.
* Control of the Suez and Panama canals by English speaking interests. The US has been in and out of Panama. The UK maintains bases in Cyprus and the Indian Ocean

(*) Note when I say Anglophone, I'm mainly referring to the USA, UK, Australia and New Zealand. Countries such as the Republic of Ireland, which is officially (but not always) neutral, and South Africa, hover around the fringes of it, and have an ambiguous role around these power blocs. The State of Israel is more controversial, but also linked. The major English speaking nations in Africa and Asia such as Nigeria, Malaysia, India, Pakistan and so on do not seem to play a leading role, but are sometimes involved. How all these interact with independence movements including Scotland's and Quebec's is yet another issue.

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Niemand wrote: March 17th, 2023, 2:34 pm Its main aim is to maintain Anglophone(*) hegemony over the rest of the world, and to undo the breach between the two main factions (the British Commonwealth and US blocs) caused by the independence of the USA. Promote the "Special Relationship" in other words. It is likely the moving force behind:
* The London-New York financial/stock market axis. It is amazing London still has this kind of financial clout.
* Propping up the British royal family, and American military presence in Commonwealth countries.
* British tax havens/offshore banking interests – Cayman islands, Bermuda, Virgin Islands, Channel Islands, Isle of Man etc.
* NATO which has major Anglophone dominance in the US-Canada-UK triumvirate, which is projected over the Atlantic, Europe and Middle East.
* ANZUS, a Pacific equivalent to NATO,.minus Canada, but projected into the Asia-Pacific-Indian Ocean regions.
* The Five Eyes, maintaining the dominance of Anglophone intelligence gathering and military worldwide.
* CHOGM - Commonwealth Heads of Government Meetings & the Commonwealth Games.
* The Trilateral Commission, which projects their power into the likes of Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, France, Scandinavia, the Netherlands and Germany. Other alliances/agreements between the UK and France going back over a century.
* Popular media – not just Hollywood, but also helping promote the disproportionate British contribution to global pop and rock. (Not saying British bands are bad, but they may have a helping hand.)
* I suspect soft power via Anglicanism and other denominations centred around these nations. Maybe this includes major Methodist, Baptist and Presbyterian bodies, as well as Mormonism.
* Control of the Suez and Panama canals by English speaking interests. The US has been in and out of Panama. The UK maintains bases in Cyprus and the Indian Ocean

(*) Note when I say Anglophone, I'm mainly referring to the USA, UK, Australia and New Zealand. Countries such as the Republic of Ireland, which is officially (but not always) neutral, and South Africa, hover around the fringes of it, and have an ambiguous role around these power blocs. The State of Israel is more controversial, but also linked. The major English speaking nations in Africa and Asia such as Nigeria, Malaysia, India, Pakistan and so on do not seem to play a leading role, but are sometimes involved. How all these interact with independence movements including Scotland's and Quebec's is yet another issue.
Great list and info!
Like he says in the video. They are the ones steering the car. I was extremely surprised how much I already knew in this video but what I didn't know was how involved the Pilgrims Society is in all of this. How much they are a shadow we never hear about.
I also knew about Kamala Harris and her family background of slave ownership. What I didn't know was the Rockefeller and central bank connection. I'm finding more and more DC elite connections that are generational the more I look and listen. Barry Sotorro aka Barack Hussein Obama and his massive wealth inheritance and connection to the Bush Family was a real eye opener. The City of London and centralized banks were something I have been aware of for quite some time. I always knew something was missing from the puzzle. This opens more up but at the same time I know it runs much deeper.

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gkearney wrote: September 19th, 2021, 12:30 pm Let's start with two links. The first is the web page to the Pilgrims Society itself at: http://www.pilgrimsociety.org The second is the Wikipedia entry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilgrims_Society

From these two one would conclude that it is a British society dedicated to the good relations between the United States and the United Kingdom.

However from the tenor of you question one would suspect you're after more nefarious information because in the world of LDSFF nothing is ever just as it seems.
I blame it on the Book of Mormon. 😂

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New 12 minute synopsis of the Pilgrim Society

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creator wrote: April 6th, 2023, 1:28 pm New 12 minute synopsis of the Pilgrim Society
This is fascinating. It connects the dots to a few historical questions I had. I was fully aware of the socialist movements and programs going on in the United States years before the European Communist revolutions occurred. Brigham Young didn’t like at all what he heard from a meeting he attended. They are behind the military industrial complex. World government corporatism. This video sure blows the lid off a lot of things especially for how short it is. Thanks for sharing. I’m glad I made this post a while back. I’ve been curious especially since this one of the topics I have had the most difficult time finding information on.

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dreamtheater76 wrote: April 6th, 2023, 5:16 pm..I was fully aware of the socialist movements and programs going on in the United States years before the European Communist revolutions occurred. Brigham Young didn’t like at all what he heard from a meeting he attended...
You might be thinking of this statement from Joseph Smith.. it was a lecture based on the ideas of Robert Owen.
Joseph Smith wrote:I attended a second lecture on Socialism, by Mr. Finch; and after he got through, I made a few remarks… I said I did not believe the doctrine.
( Source: History of the Church 6:33 )

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creator wrote: April 6th, 2023, 5:19 pm
dreamtheater76 wrote: April 6th, 2023, 5:16 pm..I was fully aware of the socialist movements and programs going on in the United States years before the European Communist revolutions occurred. Brigham Young didn’t like at all what he heard from a meeting he attended...
You might be thinking of this statement from Joseph Smith.. it was a lecture based on the ideas of Robert Owen.
Joseph Smith wrote:I attended a second lecture on Socialism, by Mr. Finch; and after he got through, I made a few remarks… I said I did not believe the doctrine.
( Source: History of the Church 6:33 )
I stand corrected.
Yes this was what I was thinking about or read about a few years ago.

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