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ransomme wrote: ↑August 24th, 2021, 10:04 pm

K9 wrote: ↑August 24th, 2021, 7:56 pm Replacing beef with this will be the next mandate in order to save the planet.

It will be called Soylent Green.

abijah` wrote: ↑August 24th, 2021, 2:29 pm This is me going on a mental excursion into the heretical, the unorthodox, and primarily, the speculative.

Specifically regarding the possibility of rampant cannibalism and human sacrifice during the age of the giants, leading up the Flood.

Matthew 24
For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark

Now, one aspect of "eating and drinking" is celebration and merrymaking in general.

But I have voiced my suspicions in the past about this potentially having sacramental implications. And even yet more certain than this, is my suspicion that there is at least a covenantal aspect to what Jesus is referring to here. A perverse counterfeit of the Bridegroom Marriage Feast.

Marriage is the chiefmost metaphor for when a community/people-group becomes collectively covenant-bonded to a deity. A marriage.

That's what the covenant-making at Sinai between YHWH and Israel was: a marriage ceremony. And the golden calf debacle was them cheating on the honeymoon -

Exodus 32
And he received the gold from their hand and fashioned it with a graving tool and made a golden calf. And they said, “These are your gods [plural pronoun, lol?], O Israel, who brought you up out of the land of Egypt!”
When Aaron saw this, he built an altar before it. And Aaron made a proclamation and said, “Tomorrow shall be a feast to the LORD.”
And they rose up early the next day and offered burnt offerings and brought peace offerings. And the people sat down to eat and drink and rose up to play. ["play", alternately translated as "indulged in pagan sexual revelry". Happens to be a variation of Isaac's name, which same verb gets used for when he gets found out for lying about Rebekah being his sister, its this same word ^"play" here that allows Abimelech to figure out they are married.]
... When Joshua heard the noise of the people as they shouted, he said to Moses, “There is a noise of war in the camp.”
But he said, “It is not the sound of shouting for victory, or the sound of the cry of defeat, but the sound of singing that I hear.”
And as soon as he came near the camp and saw the calf and the dancing, Moses’ anger burned hot, and he threw the tablets out of his hands and broke them at the foot of the mountain.

I feel like all the elements are here They are having a false marriage-feast, upon having become covenant-bonded to false gods. They are "eating and drinking", and in a corporate sense to demonic entity, as well as in their orgiastic, unbridled revelry we see the "marriage" aspect.

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Giants, Idolatry and Proxy-Marriage to Demons wrote: ↑February 26th, 2021, 6:30 pm
Og and his bed: Pinaccle of blasphemy

Giant king, "last of the rephaim" who's bed was used for ritual fornication

Bed was ~15ft, ancient peoples around the world all approximate spiritual beings appearing to them as being about 15ft
During festivals, the priest-king would embody (possession) the god (deity) and sleep with the temple prostitute (or visversa she would embody a goddess). How rebel angels were able to procreate, via possissive proxy. Post-flood if a child was born from said union, would be considered to have three parents, like how gilgamesh was 2/3 god 1/3 human

Festivals usually involved mask-wearing, human sacrifice, blood drinking and cannibalism

Ritual sex (hieros gamos) was for fertility of the land, consummation of union between the gods and the people. Basically an unholy sacrament.

Demons use ritual sex to hybridise with humans, producing nephilim spawn[/b]

So I submit that its not implausible that things of a similar idolatrous nature were possibly expressing themself in the form of -- amongst other things -- cannibalism. False sacraments, false marriage-feasts, and false reasons to merrymake.

I wonder how we'd react if we could see the full details of the events leading up to the flood, it almost makes me wonder if things more like Attack on Titan than we might've suspected.

And if the nephilim -- being produced through the (false) cosmic union of heaven and earth, spiritual and human parentage into something of a demi-god -- are basically perversions/counterfeits of Jesus Christ, it also perhaps speaks to the general pattern we see of Christ showing the true way, from which the counterfeits are inverting/subverting.

Maybe the nephilim were characteristic of consuming human flesh and drinking blood, perhaps even in a sacramental/covenantal context. So maybe this is just a plain inversion of Christ, who conversely freely offers His own flesh to be symbolically/ritually consumed, and who freely offers His own lifeblood to be symbolically/ritually drunk.

He being the Truth, His pattern being after the original, divine blueprint.

captainfearnot wrote: ↑August 24th, 2021, 1:37 pm The conditions you cite are exactly what leads to this kind of satire. The whole point is to comment on the current state of affairs, and question where we may be heading.

If it were any more on the nose he'd be plagiarizing Jonathan Swift.

thaabit wrote: ↑October 27th, 2021, 2:10 pm If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding!

tmac wrote: ↑November 21st, 2021, 7:09 pm I venture to speculate that at some point there will be people here in the U.S. who turn to cannibalism for the same basic reasons the Donner party did.

tmac wrote: ↑November 21st, 2021, 7:09 pm I venture to speculate that at some point there will be people here in the U.S. who turn to cannibalism for the same basic reasons the Donner party did.

Sirocco wrote: ↑November 22nd, 2021, 5:19 pm I'd rather become a mountain man. There's more then enough land in Canada for that. I don't need to eat anyone.

bbrown wrote: ↑November 25th, 2021, 8:46 pm I met the guy that found the Uruguayans on my mission. He grazed sheep waaaay up in the mountains It’s pretty amazing those guys ever made it out. I’ll pass on the canabalism part though.

abijah` wrote: ↑October 7th, 2021, 6:08 pm Monstrous Appetites: Giants, Cannibalism, and Insatiable Eating in Enochic Literature

https://www.academia.edu/382956/Monstrous_Appetites_Giants_Cannibalism_and_Insatiable_Eating_in_Enochic_Literature

BuriedTartaria wrote: ↑December 2nd, 2021, 9:29 am There was cannibalism mentioned in the Book of Mormon. I want to say it was attached to the Lamanites and stated to be a sign of accomplishment among them but I might be remembering wrong and maybe the text attributes the practice to both the Lamanites and Nephites.

thaabit wrote: ↑October 27th, 2021, 2:10 pm If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding!