Ron DeSantis

[mahalanobis]

I'm curious regarding what this board thinks about Ron DeSantis. His show of spine is refreshing. In theory he would have my vote for POTUS.

But I can't shake the feeling that something isn't right about him. I don't trust him. Perhaps his recent decisions and "successes" in Florida is all political theatre to set him up as the next GOP presidential ticket. The media coverage and outrage over him feels forced and fake. To me, it doesn't add up.

In short, there seem to be some spiritual red flags I can't ignore.

What say you?

[abijah`]

i would say this pretty much sums up my position pending further info

[mahalanobis]

i would say this pretty much sums up my position pending further info

A good watch. For other folks, start the video at the 7 minute mark, give or take.

He pretty much confirms the gut feel I have about DeSantis. He raises some good questions about the behavior of the media and establishment. I also agree that DeSantis doesn't strike fear into the hearts of the elite political class, which is a disqualifier to me.

[TrueFaith]

I think like Trump, DeSantis is being groomed to be the right's next pressure release valve. He will talk a big game, then fail to do anything substantial. The goal is to calm us down and to make us believe someone else will fix the problem.

And like Trump, he has already kissed the ring. A true Christian would never don the garb of an Anti-Christ religion and worship at their altars.


He's for free speech as long as it doesn't harm his rulers.

"The bill also adds a definition of anti-Semitism similar to the definition adopted by the U.S. Department of State’s Special Envoy to Monitor and Combat Anti-Semitism, providing that “anti-Semitism” is a certain perception of Jewish people, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jewish people, rhetorical and physical manifestations of anti-Semitism directed toward a person, his or her property, or toward Jewish community institutions or religious facilities."
https://www.flgov.com/2019/05/31/govern ... cs-hb-741/

[FreedomJess]

I'm curious regarding what this board thinks about Ron DeSantis. His show of spine is refreshing. In theory he would have my vote for POTUS.

But I can't shake the feeling that something isn't right about him. I don't trust him. Perhaps his recent decisions and "successes" in Florida is all political theatre to set him up as the next GOP presidential ticket. The media coverage and outrage over him feels forced and fake. To me, it doesn't add up.

In short, there seem to be some spiritual red flags I can't ignore.

What say you?

I love when he stands up against Covid stuff.
But I’m with you, something isn’t right about him.

The Doyle video Abijah posted makes sense to me. But I would even argue that Doyle is too nice about him. I think DeSantis is already playing a part for the bad guys.
If you follow Lin Wood (I like Lin Wood), he recently put DeSantis on a list of Republicans we should investigate, implying that DeSantis is deep state.

I didn’t want to accept that at first. I am very optimistic about the future. I wanted DeSantis to be good. But I’m afraid the filth in politics is very deep and wide and the bad guys in charge have what appears to be unlimited resources and planning. Not saying they will win, just that we have a fight on our hands for sure.

Edit: grammar (accept vs except) lol

[mahalanobis]

I agree about "needs investigation".

Does anyone know if he's ever been a member of Alfalfa Club, CFR, Bohemian Club, Skull&Bones, or ANY questionable groups? He just seems like "the type".

[larsenb]

I think like Trump, DeSantis is being groomed to be the right's next pressure release valve. He will talk a big game, then fail to do anything substantial. The goal is to calm us down and to make us believe someone else will fix the problem.

And like Trump, he has already kissed the ring. A true Christian would never don the garb of an Anti-Christ religion and worship at their altars.


He's for free speech as long as it doesn't harm his rulers.

"The bill also adds a definition of anti-Semitism similar to the definition adopted by the U.S. Department of State’s Special Envoy to Monitor and Combat Anti-Semitism, providing that “anti-Semitism” is a certain perception of Jewish people, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jewish people, rhetorical and physical manifestations of anti-Semitism directed toward a person, his or her property, or toward Jewish community institutions or religious facilities."
https://www.flgov.com/2019/05/31/govern ... cs-hb-741/

Problem with this thesis, is that Trump has already done something substantial. Tough to take that away from him, to include showing how easy it is to regain our 'relative' economic independence and protect our borders, etc., etc. He has also served to wake up many, many people regarding the globalist onslaught.

Going to the wall w/a kippa on your head is simply an accepted way to show you sympathize with the Holocaust narrative, which is hard to avoid. I've been in Jewish congregations w/the same garb. Just a sign of respect. But do I align with AIPAC, or our Congressional leaders bowing and scraping every time Netanyahu comes to town, etc.? Not at all.

And DeSantis does have a large Jewish constituency in his state.

[TrueFaith]

I think like Trump, DeSantis is being groomed to be the right's next pressure release valve. He will talk a big game, then fail to do anything substantial. The goal is to calm us down and to make us believe someone else will fix the problem.

And like Trump, he has already kissed the ring. A true Christian would never don the garb of an Anti-Christ religion and worship at their altars.


He's for free speech as long as it doesn't harm his rulers.

"The bill also adds a definition of anti-Semitism similar to the definition adopted by the U.S. Department of State’s Special Envoy to Monitor and Combat Anti-Semitism, providing that “anti-Semitism” is a certain perception of Jewish people, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jewish people, rhetorical and physical manifestations of anti-Semitism directed toward a person, his or her property, or toward Jewish community institutions or religious facilities."
https://www.flgov.com/2019/05/31/govern ... cs-hb-741/

Problem with this thesis, is that Trump has already done something substantial. Tough to take that away from him, to include showing how easy it is to regain our 'relative' economic independence and protect our borders, etc., etc. He has also served to wake up many, many people regarding the globalist onslaught.

Going to the wall w/a kippa on your head is simply an accepted way to show you sympathize with the Holocaust narrative, which is hard to avoid. I've been in Jewish congregations w/the same garb. Just a sign of respect. But do I align with AIPAC, or our Congressional leaders bowing and scraping every time Netanyahu comes to town, etc.? Not at all.

And DeSantis does have a large Jewish constituency in his state.

But he didn't really do any of that. I said from day one that if Trump didn't arrest the criminals in our government that every one of his accomplishments would be undone after he left office. Sure enough, our economy and border is worse than ever...in fact he left office far worse than he entered it. Trump told us who the criminals were, then walked away.

The Holocaust is a religious event for Jews not unlike the passover. Its not based in reality, but myth. The Holocaust was applied to mythological events of the war, like it was applied to ancient Israelite sacrifice.

"A holocaust is a religious animal sacrifice that is completely consumed by fire. The word derives from the Ancient Greek holokaustos (ὁλόκαυστος from ὅλος "whole" and καυστός "burnt", with rough breathing), which is used solely for one of the major forms of sacrifice. This form of sacrifice is also known as a burnt offering."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_(sacrifice)

Jews only make up less than 2% of the US population (about as much as Mormons) yet hold inordinate positions of power in government, media, and finance. Our leaders do not pray at Mormon, Sikh, Buddhist, or Muslim holy sites before entering office, only Jewish. This is not just symbolism, they are pledging allegiance to a foreign country when they enter office.

Constitutional law, like free speech, does not apply to US citizens when it impacts Israel. Israel's border is highly protected from outsiders, while ours is wide open. Ben Shapiro, a Jew, and Charlie Kirk has said this on the record. Israel is a real place with a people, while America is simply "an idea".

The following video lists the number of Jews who worked in Trump's administration. The number is shocking.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/INNbIU5JorG4/

Both parties are beholden to the same foreign country. Two sides of the same coin.







Its the same in Hollywood and the MSM and big tech. If Mormons and Jews have the same number of members why don't we see the same representation in powerful positions? This is a CONSPIRACY.

Paul the Apostle warned us of their behavior toward Christians AND their consequences.

"14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judæa are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:
15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:
16 Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost."
1 Thessalonians 2

[mahalanobis]

A bell curve of IQ can explain why you see disparities in the extremes (over representation of Jews in positions of influence). In my opinion, the conspiracy presented by TrueFaith doesn't add up.

If you want to make a case about all politicians being controlled by the Jews, we can debate that. But let's put that in a different thread.

[HVDC]

A bell curve of IQ can explain why you see disparities in the extremes (over representation of Jews in positions of influence). In my opinion, the conspiracy presented by TrueFaith doesn't add up..

Oh oh, you've opened Pandora's box. If your arguement is true then the accusation of Systemic Racism unfairly targeting "Blacks" is just something else that our high IQ church leaders have gotten wrong:

https://www.human-intelligence.org/race ... elligence/

However, there other explanations for the over representation of a particular "religious" group in positions of power. Here is one:

http://www.judeofascism.com/2011/07/jew ... d.html?m=1

And yes, De Santis is a Wolf in Sheep's clothing.

Sir H

[larsenb]

Problem with this thesis, is that Trump has already done something substantial. Tough to take that away from him, to include showing how easy it is to regain our 'relative' economic independence and protect our borders, etc., etc. He has also served to wake up many, many people regarding the globalist onslaught.

Going to the wall w/a kippa on your head is simply an accepted way to show you sympathize with the Holocaust narrative, which is hard to avoid. I've been in Jewish congregations w/the same garb. Just a sign of respect. But do I align with AIPAC, or our Congressional leaders bowing and scraping every time Netanyahu comes to town, etc.? Not at all.

And DeSantis does have a large Jewish constituency in his state.

But he didn't really do any of that. I said from day one that if Trump didn't arrest the criminals in our government that every one of his accomplishments would be undone after he left office. Sure enough, our economy and border is worse than ever...in fact he left office far worse than he entered it. Trump told us who the criminals were, then walked away.

The Holocaust is a religious event for Jews not unlike the passover. Its not based in reality, but myth. The Holocaust was applied to mythological events of the war, like it was applied to ancient Israelite sacrifice.

"A holocaust is a religious animal sacrifice that is completely consumed by fire. The word derives from the Ancient Greek holokaustos (ὁλόκαυστος from ὅλος "whole" and καυστός "burnt", with rough breathing), which is used solely for one of the major forms of sacrifice. This form of sacrifice is also known as a burnt offering."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_(sacrifice)

Jews only make up less than 2% of the US population (about as much as Mormons) yet hold inordinate positions of power in government, media, and finance. Our leaders do not pray at Mormon, Sikh, Buddhist, or Muslim holy sites before entering office, only Jewish. This is not just symbolism, they are pledging allegiance to a foreign country when they enter office.

Constitutional law, like free speech, does not apply to US citizens when it impacts Israel. Israel's border is highly protected from outsiders, while ours is wide open. Ben Shapiro, a Jew, and Charlie Kirk has said this on the record. Israel is a real place with a people, while America is simply "an idea".

The following video lists the number of Jews who worked in Trump's administration. The number is shocking.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/INNbIU5JorG4/

Both parties are beholden to the same foreign country. Two sides of the same coin.

Its the same in Hollywood and the MSM and big tech. If Mormons and Jews have the same number of members why don't we see the same representation in powerful positions? This is a CONSPIRACY.

Paul the Apostle warned us of their behavior toward Christians AND their consequences.

"14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judæa are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:
15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:
16 Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost."
1 Thessalonians 2

But he did do the things I've mentioned. We'll just have to disagree on that one.

And no, he didn't just walk away. The election was egregiously stolen from him (and many others at the same time) And he was constrained right-and-left on what he could even do w/the DOJ, FBI, etc., during his term in office. His one big mistake was the role he played in pushing the development of the mRNA vaccines, but you can see why he did that.

People in their various positions in life, government, businesses, just don't see what you and I may see after much study and thinking. Assuming they do, and in a black-and-white fashion, is a big mistake, imsho.

I'm not disagreeing with your assessment of the role played in the Secret Combinations of the Last Days by significant numbers of Jewish individuals, including members of the Rothschild family. Not at all.

[OCDMOM]

Florida Gov. DeSantis Expands Monoclonal Antibody Treatments Amid COVID-19 Spike.
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronaviru ... d-19-spike.

[mahalanobis]

A bell curve of IQ can explain why you see disparities in the extremes (over representation of Jews in positions of influence). In my opinion, the conspiracy presented by TrueFaith doesn't add up..

Oh oh, you've opened Pandora's box. If your arguement is true then the accusation of Systemic Racism unfairly targeting "Blacks" is just something else that our high IQ church leaders have gotten wrong:

https://www.human-intelligence.org/race ... elligence/

However, there other explanations for the over representation of a particular "religious" group in positions of power. Here is one:

http://www.judeofascism.com/2011/07/jew ... d.html?m=1

And yes, De Santis is a Wolf in Sheep's clothing.

Sir H

I'm not afraid to tackle IQ facts (which includes race) because I know that intrinsic human worth isn't about intelligence test scores. It's the academicians that trip over themselves trying to dismiss facts so that everyone can be equal in outcome, while blaming everyone else for "systemic" problems. Eww. It's so dishonest.

But it's worth pointing out that I'm NOT claiming that IQ is the only explanation for misrepresentation. It's a whole lot more complicated than that. I'm saying it's an important factor.

To me it's no Pandora's Box.

[markharr]

I don't know how any gentile could stand up to the gads at this point. We all saw over the past four years how they have infiltrated everything.

The sun is setting on the time of the gentiles.

[EvanLM]

every American has been trained to question and not trust. We are waaaaaaaaaaay out of political bounds because of this.

Americans practice wickedness every day but expect the politicians to somehow walk a higher standard

For example a many, many immoral people were offended by Trumps supposed affairs. Now I as an American can be immoral and have affairs but the president better not. I can repent and change my ways, but the politicians better not. This is how we think. we are hypocrites, especially the COJCLDS

So, this obvious piousness has led to many of our politicians hiding their personal lives. I suggest that you support a politician based on what you see him/her do for the general population. People have been asking for an alternative to the covid shot. Desantis is providing a healthy and effective alternative to the covid vax. He should have the vote of everyone on LDSFF that has pooh poohed the vax.

That alone proves that he is interested in helping the people of his state and he has listened to them. Different than Cox that many of you voted for.

Trump was the same. He DID many things that have been listed in different posts on this forum, that benefited the American public. One of them was to allow alternative medication to be given to children and adults without the permission of their doctor. Oh, I guess you guys in Utah don't know that your Utah law says that the parent cannot decide to give an alternative to their child unless the doctor gives permission and the parent cannot seek any other treatment without doctors say. So even if you pass a medical marijuana law then the doctor can still say no.

This law has affected the way your doctors do medicine in Utah. I asked my doctor a few years ago, in Utah, for a script of hydroxicloriquin. He said that IHC will NOT allow him to give it to anyone. hmf btw I didn't stay in Utah longer than 2 years. don't like the feel good voting and politics.

So. . . keep going with your gut and when the laws are changed against you then don't be surprised. Utah gut is what got unfit Mitt voted in. and he knew how to play hypocrites. No one in Utah, including the media, even cared to research the lawsuits and mess he left behind in mass. Did anyone learn a lesson after seeing who he is? just saying

[HVDC]

A bell curve of IQ can explain why you see disparities in the extremes (over representation of Jews in positions of influence). In my opinion, the conspiracy presented by TrueFaith doesn't add up..

Oh oh, you've opened Pandora's box. If your arguement is true then the accusation of Systemic Racism unfairly targeting "Blacks" is just something else that our high IQ church leaders have gotten wrong:

https://www.human-intelligence.org/race ... elligence/

However, there other explanations for the over representation of a particular "religious" group in positions of power. Here is one:

http://www.judeofascism.com/2011/07/jew ... d.html?m=1

And yes, De Santis is a Wolf in Sheep's clothing.

Sir H

I'm not afraid to tackle IQ facts (which includes race) because I know that intrinsic human worth isn't about intelligence test scores. It's the academicians that trip over themselves trying to dismiss facts so that everyone can be equal in outcome, while blaming everyone else for "systemic" problems. Eww. It's so dishonest.

But it's worth pointing out that I'm NOT claiming that IQ is the only explanation for misrepresentation. It's a whole lot more complicated than that. I'm saying it's an important factor.

To me it's no Pandora's Box.

Absolutely.

Nor to me, and I do agree that IQ is one factor, just not the strongest one.

Sir H

[mahalanobis]

Bump.

I'm still skeptical of this guy. He says lots of things I like, but he seems so slimy.

[creator]

I'm curious regarding what this board thinks about Ron DeSantis. His show of spine is refreshing. In theory he would have my vote for POTUS...

Don't fall into the trap of the false left-right paradigm.

[mahalanobis]

I'm curious regarding what this board thinks about Ron DeSantis. His show of spine is refreshing. In theory he would have my vote for POTUS...

Don't fall into the trap of the false left-right paradigm.

You'll need to articulate what you mean by "trap" and "left-right paradigm".

I view it all as good versus evil. And there are agents of evil disguised as good.

Elsewhere on the forum, I've articulated recently about how the left-right thing is broken. I'm with you there. But to say "the RNC and DNC are 100% controlled" doesn't fly with me. "compromised" is a much better word than "controlled".

There are some good and sincere folks in the political sphere. There are also many useful idiot folks who get manipulated. There are lots of bad folks, and there are evil folks.

[creator]

In that view of "good versus evil", most of the Republicans and Democrats are on the side of evil. The false left-right paradigm is part of the game they play, a game of the conspiracy.

For context on the false left right paradigm >>>

[mahalanobis]

In that view of "good versus evil", most of the Republicans and Democrats are on the side of evil. The false left-right paradigm is part of the game they play, a game of the conspiracy.

For context on the false left right paradigm >>>

Can you point to which democrats and which republicans are NOT on the side of evil?

If you can't point to them, then your model is simply one of distrust. ... and I mean: point to more than one. Saying "ron paul" isn't gonna fly with me. I think it's a trap to just lot everyone into one big pot.

[mahalanobis]

Some stuff I edited above:

Elsewhere on the forum, I've articulated recently about how the left-right thing is broken. I'm with you there. But to say "the RNC and DNC are 100% controlled" doesn't fly with me. "compromised" is a much better word than "controlled".

There are some good and sincere folks in the political sphere. There are also many useful idiot folks who get manipulated. There are lots of bad folks, and there are evil folks.

[markharr]

He is holding his own pretty well for being one man against an abomnible church that has infiltrated every institution.

We need every single person who still loves this country as founded to wake up.

[Claymore]

As a resident of the state of Florida, I love Governor Desantis. I appreciate everything he has done to protect us from Federal overreach and all the shenanigans that came with COVID. I would love for him to run for president, but at the same time don't want him to because I want him to continue as governor.

However, I do worry about this all being a ploy and he being controlled opposition. I really want to believe there are still good people in politics that are looking out for the people. I'm just wanting for the other shoe to drop though.

Claymore

[Niyr]

He's a decent governor, though everyone seems to forget that he still did mask mandates and shut downs early on. He and the people are better served with him as governor. We need stronger states.