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Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
Posted: August 12th, 2021, 2:05 pm
by markharr
My personal revelation has been to hold out as long as possible because the reasoning behind getting the vaccine would eventually fall apart.
Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
Posted: August 12th, 2021, 2:07 pm
by HisWrathSoon
Destroyer wrote: ↑August 12th, 2021, 1:33 pm
Trucker wrote: ↑August 12th, 2021, 1:31 pm
How do you know when he is speaking for the Lord and when he his speaking as a man?
When he is speaking as a man, it's all UN slogans, taglines, and propaganda.
While shaking the pope's hand with a big grin on his face.
Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
Posted: August 12th, 2021, 2:10 pm
by TrueFaith
The lightning strike on the Salt Lake Temple was a warning to the church for joining with Babylon. Now they double down.
If you're living in the Salt Lake Valley right now, I would be packing my bags for an extended vacation.
Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
Posted: August 12th, 2021, 2:11 pm
by OPMissionary
Trucker wrote: ↑August 12th, 2021, 1:31 pm
How do you know when he is speaking for the Lord and when he his speaking as a man?
He stopped speaking for the Lord a long time ago.
Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
Posted: August 12th, 2021, 2:11 pm
by Aprhys
I am calling on the First Presidency to kiss my you-know-what.
Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
Posted: August 12th, 2021, 2:12 pm
by markharr
JSmith wrote: ↑August 12th, 2021, 2:04 pm
the facebook comment section is a flat our brawl. members at each others throats or singing praise
Since facebook users tend to value "science" above all else and tend to believe that they are more intelligent than everyone else, show them this.

Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
Posted: August 12th, 2021, 2:12 pm
by Reluctant Watchman
Oh, my... from the comments:
Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
Posted: August 12th, 2021, 2:13 pm
by ParticleMan
"'A Prophet is not always a Prophet' only when he is acting as such." --Joseph Smith
Consider these remarks:
https://latterdayspence.blogspot.com/20 ... -only.html
What would the Lord have you do?
Pray until you know for yourself, and then act accordingly and fear not man.
Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
Posted: August 12th, 2021, 2:13 pm
by ampeterlin
It just popped up on my church notifications.
This announcement not only hurts my sensibilities, but seriously makes me wonder if our leaders have any discernment at all.
I just don't get it. SMH
Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
Posted: August 12th, 2021, 2:14 pm
by TrueFaith
Is the prophet counseling us to follow Jesus Christ?
No:
"We can win this war if everyone will follow the wise and thoughtful recommendations of medical experts and government leaders”
I mean...seriously...what else do you need to see to realize that Russel M Nelson isn't following Christ? HE. JUST. TOLD. US.
Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
Posted: August 12th, 2021, 2:14 pm
by Gazelem
This statement can’t possibly stir up contention within the church can it?
Curious to see where all the lines are drawn for various people. If you don’t have a line for your morals, and let an institution that is changing morals regularly now to be more in line with the world’s preferences be your only source of moral code you set for yourself - Do you really have morals?
Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
Posted: August 12th, 2021, 2:14 pm
by Cruiserdude
“When ‘Mormonism’ finds favor with the wicked in this land, it will have gone into the shade; but until the power of the Priesthood is gone, ‘Mormonism’ will never become popular with the wicked.” (Brigham Young, JD 4:38, 31 August 1856)
“And when the spirit of persecution, the spirit of hatred, of wrath, and malice ceases in the world against this people, it will be the time that this people have apostatized and joined hands with the wicked, and never until then; which I pray may never come.” (Brigham Young, JD 4:326-327, 31 May 1857)
Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
Posted: August 12th, 2021, 2:15 pm
by Reluctant Watchman
ampeterlin wrote: ↑August 12th, 2021, 2:13 pm
It just popped up on my church notifications.
This announcement not only hurts my sensibilities, but seriously makes me wonder if our leaders have any discernment at all.
I just don't get it. SMH
Collusion...
Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
Posted: August 12th, 2021, 2:18 pm
by TrueFaith
JSmith wrote: ↑August 12th, 2021, 2:04 pm
the facebook comment section is a flat our brawl. members at each others throats or singing praise
I dont know who this guy is, but he predicted this perfectly last November.
Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
Posted: August 12th, 2021, 2:19 pm
by Destroyer
TrueFaith wrote: ↑August 12th, 2021, 2:14 pm
Is the prophet counseling us to follow Jesus Christ?
No:
"We can win this war if everyone will follow the wise and thoughtful recommendations of medical experts and government leaders”
I mean...seriously...what else do you need to see to realize that Russel M Nelson isn't following Christ? HE. JUST. TOLD. US.
So thankful for all the wisdom of man...
Isaiah 29
14 Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.
Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
Posted: August 12th, 2021, 2:19 pm
by Robin Hood
Now would be a really good time for the OM&S to show up.
Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
Posted: August 12th, 2021, 2:20 pm
by Gazelem
Cruiserdude wrote: ↑August 12th, 2021, 2:14 pm
“When ‘Mormonism’ finds favor with the wicked in this land, it will have gone into the shade; but until the power of the Priesthood is gone, ‘Mormonism’ will never become popular with the wicked.” (Brigham Young, JD 4:38, 31 August 1856)
“And when the spirit of persecution, the spirit of hatred, of wrath, and malice ceases in the world against this people, it will be the time that this people have apostatized and joined hands with the wicked, and never until then; which I pray may never come.” (Brigham Young, JD 4:326-327, 31 May 1857)
Wow, we can give Brother Brigham credit where credit is due.
Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
Posted: August 12th, 2021, 2:22 pm
by HisWrathSoon
This is nothing to what God soon delivers.
Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
Posted: August 12th, 2021, 2:23 pm
by tribrac
I siad TPTB would stop at nothing until we were all injected.
Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
Posted: August 12th, 2021, 2:24 pm
by nvr
We have to get our own personal revelation, as Pres. Nelson counsels, to know whether they're speaking inspired counsel or not. As Joseph Smith taught,
A Prophet is not always a Prophet only when he is acting as such.
https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper ... h-1843/178
Given the doubtless intense pressure the first presidency and quorum are receiving from the church's legal team / PR department, in addition to the entangling alliances our church has with various international groups who are all lock-step on this issue, I think this is another instance of them speaking men instead of as prophets & apostles.
The dissenting opinion from numerous doctors seem to suggest masks do nothing for viruses and that the gene therapy injection may actually be making things worse.
We should never follow a course of action based merely on a majority consensus - it only takes one dissenting voice for all these arguments from every other source to be proven a waste of breath.
Everyone's entitled to receive their own personal confirmation.
Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
Posted: August 12th, 2021, 2:24 pm
by Gadianton Slayer
OPMissionary wrote: ↑August 12th, 2021, 2:11 pm
Trucker wrote: ↑August 12th, 2021, 1:31 pm
How do you know when he is speaking for the Lord and when he his speaking as a man?
He stopped speaking for the Lord a long time ago.
He never did.
Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
Posted: August 12th, 2021, 2:25 pm
by tribrac
Gosh I hope there are any vaccine doses left in Utah.
Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
Posted: August 12th, 2021, 2:26 pm
by Trucker
Destroyer wrote: ↑August 12th, 2021, 2:19 pm
TrueFaith wrote: ↑August 12th, 2021, 2:14 pm
Is the prophet counseling us to follow Jesus Christ?
No:
"We can win this war if everyone will follow the wise and thoughtful recommendations of medical experts and government leaders”
I mean...seriously...what else do you need to see to realize that Russel M Nelson isn't following Christ? HE. JUST. TOLD. US.
So thankful for all the wisdom of man...
Isaiah 29
14 Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.
Read the previous chapter and tell me what you think is going on.
Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
Posted: August 12th, 2021, 2:27 pm
by tribrac
Did they happen to tell us which of the 3 vaccines we should choose?
Seems pretty important distinction to me.
Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
Posted: August 12th, 2021, 2:27 pm
by Gadianton Slayer
TrueFaith wrote: ↑August 12th, 2021, 2:14 pm
Is the prophet counseling us to follow Jesus Christ?
No:
"We can win this war if everyone will follow the wise and thoughtful recommendations of medical experts and government leaders”
I mean...seriously...what else do you need to see to realize that Russel M Nelson isn't following Christ? HE. JUST. TOLD. US.
Precisely. This church is cursed, putting your trust in the arm of flesh is equivalent to following Satan directly.