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Is the First Presidency still standing behind this?

The First Presidency of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints sent the following message on Thursday, August 12, 2021, to Church members around the world:

Dear Brothers and Sisters:

We find ourselves fighting a war against the ravages of COVID-19 and its variants, an unrelenting pandemic. We want to do all we can to limit the spread of these viruses. We know that protection from the diseases they cause can only be achieved by immunizing a very high percentage of the population.

To limit exposure to these viruses, we urge the use of face masks in public meetings whenever social distancing is not possible. To provide personal protection from such severe infections, we urge individuals to be vaccinated. Available vaccines have proven to be both safe and effective.

We can win this war if everyone will follow the wise and thoughtful recommendations of medical experts and government leaders. Please know of our sincere love and great concern for all of God’s children.

The First Presidency

Russell M. Nelson
Dallin H. Oaks
Henry B. Eyring

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lundbaek wrote: October 15th, 2021, 6:13 pm Is the First Presidency still standing behind this?

The First Presidency of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints sent the following message on Thursday, August 12, 2021, to Church members around the world:

Dear Brothers and Sisters:

We find ourselves fighting a war against the ravages of COVID-19 and its variants, an unrelenting pandemic. We want to do all we can to limit the spread of these viruses. We know that protection from the diseases they cause can only be achieved by immunizing a very high percentage of the population.

To limit exposure to these viruses, we urge the use of face masks in public meetings whenever social distancing is not possible. To provide personal protection from such severe infections, we urge individuals to be vaccinated. Available vaccines have proven to be both safe and effective.

We can win this war if everyone will follow the wise and thoughtful recommendations of medical experts and government leaders. Please know of our sincere love and great concern for all of God’s children.

The First Presidency

Russell M. Nelson
Dallin H. Oaks
Henry B. Eyring
Yes, I believe so. They have even instructed California leaders to refuse giving vaxx exemption letters because an exemption goes against the church's views on vaccines.

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You probably want to watch this important video. We are truly witnessing a luciferian effort sweeping the Earth and there is little left to doubt that the church leadership is complicit:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/KrSxZKZBRLSY/

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Four guys in my ward and I are each pitching in $200 to buy a decent microscope that will enable us to look at our blood. Two of us are vaxxed and three aren't. We'll use disposable lancets to get blood samples from our fingertips. The microscope has an 18Mpixel camera which will enable nice images/videos to be gathered and shared, at 1000x magnification.

Our objective is to see if there are obvious differences between vaxxed and unvaxxed blood. We will look at everyone's blood that is interested.

Maybe we should make a video, if warranted by what we see, that explains how we are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and we've been expecting something like this since the inception of the church. As members, we stand firmly against all the lies surrounding COVID and we will never acquiesce to getting this poison injected into us that they are calling a "vaccine". I think that would strike a chord with every awake member, and even reach the eyes and ears of the leaders.

We'll have to wait and see what people's blood looks like.

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jreuben wrote: October 14th, 2021, 12:52 pm Pfizer's Vanessa Gelman confronted about fetal cells usage in their death blaster - and runs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50kghlaHYvM
@Chip thanks for sharing. We can see that they are truly demons working for a higher devil in their efforts to obliterate the offspring of Elohim.

Boy, did she look panicked, or what?

I know she doesn't normally exercise that vigorously.

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lundbaek wrote: October 15th, 2021, 6:13 pm Is the First Presidency still standing behind this?

The First Presidency of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints sent the following message on Thursday, August 12, 2021, to Church members around the world:

Dear Brothers and Sisters:

We find ourselves fighting a war against the ravages of COVID-19 and its variants, an unrelenting pandemic. We want to do all we can to limit the spread of these viruses. We know that protection from the diseases they cause can only be achieved by immunizing a very high percentage of the population.

To limit exposure to these viruses, we urge the use of face masks in public meetings whenever social distancing is not possible. To provide personal protection from such severe infections, we urge individuals to be vaccinated. Available vaccines have proven to be both safe and effective.

We can win this war if everyone will follow the wise and thoughtful recommendations of medical experts and government leaders. Please know of our sincere love and great concern for all of God’s children.

The First Presidency

Russell M. Nelson
Dallin H. Oaks
Henry B. Eyring
Jesus doesn't social distance or wear a mask.
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Just looking at covid vaccination tracker for Utah county, comma probably the highest percentage of list of church members in the country in that 1 county,. There is A-sharp jump up in the percent vaccinated 1st shot. On July 12th the percentage was 33% on July 16th this had jumped to 43%.. The 1st presidency letter utter came out on July 12th

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BroJones wrote: October 17th, 2021, 10:38 am Just looking at covid vaccination tracker for Utah county, comma probably the highest percentage of list of church members in the country in that 1 county,. There is A-sharp jump up in the percent vaccinated 1st shot. On July 12th the percentage was 33% on July 16th this had jumped to 43%.. The 1st presidency letter utter came out on July 12th
The First Presidency letter came out August 12.

https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.or ... ugust-2021

Is your 10% jump for July or August?

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Chip wrote: October 16th, 2021, 2:11 am Four guys in my ward and I are each pitching in $200 to buy a decent microscope that will enable us to look at our blood. Two of us are vaxxed and three aren't. We'll use disposable lancets to get blood samples from our fingertips. The microscope has an 18Mpixel camera which will enable nice images/videos to be gathered and shared, at 1000x magnification.

Our objective is to see if there are obvious differences between vaxxed and unvaxxed blood. We will look at everyone's blood that is interested.

Maybe we should make a video, if warranted by what we see, that explains how we are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and we've been expecting something like this since the inception of the church. As members, we stand firmly against all the lies surrounding COVID and we will never acquiesce to getting this poison injected into us that they are calling a "vaccine". I think that would strike a chord with every awake member, and even reach the eyes and ears of the leaders.

We'll have to wait and see what people's blood looks like.
Please start a thread with your findings and post a link to it in this thread. I am very interested in seeing what you discover. If I lived close enough, you could look at my blood (no vax; may or may not have had covid, but my dd probably did).

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Silver Pie wrote: October 17th, 2021, 5:01 pm
Chip wrote: October 16th, 2021, 2:11 am Four guys in my ward and I are each pitching in $200 to buy a decent microscope that will enable us to look at our blood. Two of us are vaxxed and three aren't. We'll use disposable lancets to get blood samples from our fingertips. The microscope has an 18Mpixel camera which will enable nice images/videos to be gathered and shared, at 1000x magnification.

Our objective is to see if there are obvious differences between vaxxed and unvaxxed blood. We will look at everyone's blood that is interested.

Maybe we should make a video, if warranted by what we see, that explains how we are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and we've been expecting something like this since the inception of the church. As members, we stand firmly against all the lies surrounding COVID and we will never acquiesce to getting this poison injected into us that they are calling a "vaccine". I think that would strike a chord with every awake member, and even reach the eyes and ears of the leaders.

We'll have to wait and see what people's blood looks like.
Please start a thread with your findings and post a link to it in this thread. I am very interested in seeing what you discover. If I lived close enough, you could look at my blood (no vax; may or may not have had covid, but my dd probably did).
I will start a thread after we get the microscope and get some initial samples.

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Chip wrote: October 17th, 2021, 5:05 pm I will start a thread after we get the microscope and get some initial samples.
Awesome! 🙌🏻 Thank you.

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Does marijuana affect your blood? Asking for a friend. ;)

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA:
You think the authorities care? Utah begging for (bad) Afghan "refugees" and the church participating in this clown show is pretty sickening. Just look at the most recent garbage here:
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/biden-admin-has-released-over-16000-covid-positive-migrants-us-whistleblower

So you think anyone REALLY actually believes that Covid is a big deal who is on the inside track (like leaders of the church absolutely have to be)?

This is all so grotesque.

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Oops, first prezie again shows lack of insight and or care since they've been manipulated or participated in manipulation of millions of people for demonic grifters:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10111521/Pfizer-secret-government-contracts-COVID-vaccines.html

Authorities eh? LOL

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Chip wrote: October 16th, 2021, 2:11 am Four guys in my ward and I are each pitching in $200 to buy a decent microscope that will enable us to look at our blood. Two of us are vaxxed and three aren't. We'll use disposable lancets to get blood samples from our fingertips. The microscope has an 18Mpixel camera which will enable nice images/videos to be gathered and shared, at 1000x magnification.

Our objective is to see if there are obvious differences between vaxxed and unvaxxed blood. We will look at everyone's blood that is interested.

Maybe we should make a video, if warranted by what we see, that explains how we are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and we've been expecting something like this since the inception of the church. As members, we stand firmly against all the lies surrounding COVID and we will never acquiesce to getting this poison injected into us that they are calling a "vaccine". I think that would strike a chord with every awake member, and even reach the eyes and ears of the leaders.

We'll have to wait and see what people's blood looks like.
I don't think you're going to find anything useful or relevant with a microscope. The mechanisms at play are at a much smaller level than looking at blood cells. Antibodies, RNA/DNA strands, viruses, etc. are too small to be seen with a microscope --- especially a $200 one. There are scanning electron microscopes (very expensive, used in labs), but even they can't really get "pictures" of things that small. There are indirect means of seeing molecules and atoms, but the are very fuzzy/low definition, and are indirect --- they aren't "pictures," per se, they are images based on vibrations.

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Rubicon wrote: October 20th, 2021, 1:24 pm
Chip wrote: October 16th, 2021, 2:11 am Four guys in my ward and I are each pitching in $200 to buy a decent microscope that will enable us to look at our blood. Two of us are vaxxed and three aren't. We'll use disposable lancets to get blood samples from our fingertips. The microscope has an 18Mpixel camera which will enable nice images/videos to be gathered and shared, at 1000x magnification.

Our objective is to see if there are obvious differences between vaxxed and unvaxxed blood. We will look at everyone's blood that is interested.

Maybe we should make a video, if warranted by what we see, that explains how we are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and we've been expecting something like this since the inception of the church. As members, we stand firmly against all the lies surrounding COVID and we will never acquiesce to getting this poison injected into us that they are calling a "vaccine". I think that would strike a chord with every awake member, and even reach the eyes and ears of the leaders.

We'll have to wait and see what people's blood looks like.
I don't think you're going to find anything useful or relevant with a microscope. The mechanisms at play are at a much smaller level than looking at blood cells. Antibodies, RNA/DNA strands, viruses, etc. are too small to be seen with a microscope --- especially a $200 one. There are scanning electron microscopes (very expensive, used in labs), but even they can't really get "pictures" of things that small. There are indirect means of seeing molecules and atoms, but the are very fuzzy/low definition, and are indirect --- they aren't "pictures," per se, they are images based on vibrations.
I sometimes wonder if DNA even exists or if its just another anti-God manipulation to remove man's divinity. Note the symbolism of the double helix.

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Rubicon wrote: October 20th, 2021, 1:24 pm
Chip wrote: October 16th, 2021, 2:11 am Four guys in my ward and I are each pitching in $200 to buy a decent microscope that will enable us to look at our blood. Two of us are vaxxed and three aren't. We'll use disposable lancets to get blood samples from our fingertips. The microscope has an 18Mpixel camera which will enable nice images/videos to be gathered and shared, at 1000x magnification.

Our objective is to see if there are obvious differences between vaxxed and unvaxxed blood. We will look at everyone's blood that is interested.

Maybe we should make a video, if warranted by what we see, that explains how we are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and we've been expecting something like this since the inception of the church. As members, we stand firmly against all the lies surrounding COVID and we will never acquiesce to getting this poison injected into us that they are calling a "vaccine". I think that would strike a chord with every awake member, and even reach the eyes and ears of the leaders.

We'll have to wait and see what people's blood looks like.
I don't think you're going to find anything useful or relevant with a microscope. The mechanisms at play are at a much smaller level than looking at blood cells. Antibodies, RNA/DNA strands, viruses, etc. are too small to be seen with a microscope --- especially a $200 one. There are scanning electron microscopes (very expensive, used in labs), but even they can't really get "pictures" of things that small. There are indirect means of seeing molecules and atoms, but the are very fuzzy/low definition, and are indirect --- they aren't "pictures," per se, they are images based on vibrations.
The macro effects of the vaxx on the blood can be viewed easily using optical microscopy. We are looking for conglomerations of red blood cells. And possibly portions of erector sets and squids.

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Rubicon wrote: October 20th, 2021, 1:24 pm
Chip wrote: October 16th, 2021, 2:11 am Four guys in my ward and I are each pitching in $200 to buy a decent microscope that will enable us to look at our blood. Two of us are vaxxed and three aren't. We'll use disposable lancets to get blood samples from our fingertips. The microscope has an 18Mpixel camera which will enable nice images/videos to be gathered and shared, at 1000x magnification.

Our objective is to see if there are obvious differences between vaxxed and unvaxxed blood. We will look at everyone's blood that is interested.

Maybe we should make a video, if warranted by what we see, that explains how we are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and we've been expecting something like this since the inception of the church. As members, we stand firmly against all the lies surrounding COVID and we will never acquiesce to getting this poison injected into us that they are calling a "vaccine". I think that would strike a chord with every awake member, and even reach the eyes and ears of the leaders.

We'll have to wait and see what people's blood looks like.
I don't think you're going to find anything useful or relevant with a microscope. The mechanisms at play are at a much smaller level than looking at blood cells. Antibodies, RNA/DNA strands, viruses, etc. are too small to be seen with a microscope --- especially a $200 one. There are scanning electron microscopes (very expensive, used in labs), but even they can't really get "pictures" of things that small. There are indirect means of seeing molecules and atoms, but the are very fuzzy/low definition, and are indirect --- they aren't "pictures," per se, they are images based on vibrations.
It seems that you’re not aware of the latest German scientific blood studies where was clearly showed cell disorders through microscope. Therefore the desire about testing similar results is quite legit in my opinion.

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Chip wrote: October 20th, 2021, 3:36 pm
The macro effects of the vaxx on the blood can be viewed easily using optical microscopy. We are looking for conglomerations of red blood cells. And possibly portions of erector sets and squids.
Oh, you're looking for agglutination (clotting), and things like that. Those can be present in all kinds of people (vaxxed or not). My wife is on high doses of warfarin because she needs very thin blood at all times (spontaneous clotting disorder), so you'd be hard-pressed to find anything like that in her, vaxxed or not (none of us are).

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Chip wrote: October 20th, 2021, 3:36 pm
Rubicon wrote: October 20th, 2021, 1:24 pm
Chip wrote: October 16th, 2021, 2:11 am Four guys in my ward and I are each pitching in $200 to buy a decent microscope that will enable us to look at our blood. Two of us are vaxxed and three aren't. We'll use disposable lancets to get blood samples from our fingertips. The microscope has an 18Mpixel camera which will enable nice images/videos to be gathered and shared, at 1000x magnification.

Our objective is to see if there are obvious differences between vaxxed and unvaxxed blood. We will look at everyone's blood that is interested.

Maybe we should make a video, if warranted by what we see, that explains how we are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and we've been expecting something like this since the inception of the church. As members, we stand firmly against all the lies surrounding COVID and we will never acquiesce to getting this poison injected into us that they are calling a "vaccine". I think that would strike a chord with every awake member, and even reach the eyes and ears of the leaders.

We'll have to wait and see what people's blood looks like.
I don't think you're going to find anything useful or relevant with a microscope. The mechanisms at play are at a much smaller level than looking at blood cells. Antibodies, RNA/DNA strands, viruses, etc. are too small to be seen with a microscope --- especially a $200 one. There are scanning electron microscopes (very expensive, used in labs), but even they can't really get "pictures" of things that small. There are indirect means of seeing molecules and atoms, but the are very fuzzy/low definition, and are indirect --- they aren't "pictures," per se, they are images based on vibrations.
The macro effects of the vaxx on the blood can be viewed easily using optical microscopy. We are looking for conglomerations of red blood cells. And possibly portions of erector sets and squids.
I respect you for taking this approach very much. this will give you a starting point coming from your own knowledge that you can then research instead of taking it on faith from others.

If you find something anomalous, you can start researching the possible explanations and begin to determine the likelihood of the vaccine being the cause. Bravo.

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Rubicon wrote: October 20th, 2021, 4:01 pm
Chip wrote: October 20th, 2021, 3:36 pm
The macro effects of the vaxx on the blood can be viewed easily using optical microscopy. We are looking for conglomerations of red blood cells. And possibly portions of erector sets and squids.
Oh, you're looking for agglutination (clotting), and things like that. Those can be present in all kinds of people (vaxxed or not). My wife is on high doses of warfarin because she needs very thin blood at all times (spontaneous clotting disorder), so you'd be hard-pressed to find anything like that in her, vaxxed or not (none of us are).

Maybe we'll see a preponderance of this in vaxxed people. Maybe nothing, as well.

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Funny story. Or not so funny.

I had pitched this microscope deal to my friend in the stake presidency. He wasn't interested and proceeded to scold me somewhat, asking me what I expected to find and why don't I just use other people's research, as it would save time and money, and there are more important things to do, etc.

He used to be somewhat strident in his position that the vax was not a good idea, and he advised others against it. Anyway, a friend of my wife saw him for an appointment two days ago and he told her that he had gotten the vaxx and it made him quite sick for 4 or 5 days after the 2nd shot. He advised her not to take it, if she hadn't, already. So, he drank the Koolaid, finally.

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...But it looks like he's back to being anti-vaxx.

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"Authority" AP News caught lying for communists and evildoing devils supporting and pushing the vaccine:
DEFAMATION BY IMPLICATION: The Associated Press 'Strawmans' Project Veritas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK2_-VpzVl4

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Clearly a war is being waged on humanity by the few rich. They say.."You will think like us, and acknowledge our superiority, and in exchange we will allow you privileges that we choose".

The Fab-15 are all from the upper class. So are they trying to save me or enslave me?

If any of you figure it out please let me know.

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