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Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine

Posted: August 23rd, 2021, 8:12 pm
by A Global Faith
TrueFaith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:07 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:04 pm
TrueFaith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 7:48 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 7:40 pm

I wasn’t intending to stir trouble. I just came on here, made a few posts about being loyal to the LDS church leadership ala D&C 1:38, and before I know it I am a demon, a devil worshipper, and I am being informed that the First Presidency of our church is guilty of human rights violations and worse.

It has been eye opening. And semi interesting!

Some posters seem to be sincere. Some seem to be on drugs (or off of their prescribed drugs).

I just can’t follow the logic.

Is that the consensus? Arrest President Nelson for war crimes?
Yes, the word of God is "quick and powerful, sharper than a two-edged sword, to the dividing asunder of both joints and marrow.”
You’re saying yes?

The scriptures have lead you to believe that Russel M Nelson is guilty of war crimes?
Yes, absolutely. They support the Great Reset which is a genocidal program designed to reduce human population to control carbon emissions. It is being done with the vaccines, lockdowns, reduced fertility, and replacement migration. Its in the open, they cheer it on late night television.

Where have you been? Pay attention.
Okay so now it’s murder, whoredoms, war crimes and genocide.

President Nelson has been very busy apparently.

It’s going to be hard to prove the genocide part of he himself got the vaccine you know.

Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine

Posted: August 23rd, 2021, 8:14 pm
by OPMissionary
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:04 pm
TrueFaith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 7:48 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 7:40 pm
Fred wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 7:33 pm

Well then, why did you come to stir trouble?
I wasn’t intending to stir trouble. I just came on here, made a few posts about being loyal to the LDS church leadership ala D&C 1:38, and before I know it I am a demon, a devil worshipper, and I am being informed that the First Presidency of our church is guilty of human rights violations and worse.

It has been eye opening. And semi interesting!

Some posters seem to be sincere. Some seem to be on drugs (or off of their prescribed drugs).

I just can’t follow the logic.

Is that the consensus? Arrest President Nelson for war crimes?
Yes, the word of God is "quick and powerful, sharper than a two-edged sword, to the dividing asunder of both joints and marrow.”
You’re saying yes?

The scriptures have lead you to believe that Russel M Nelson is guilty of war crimes?
Point to me where in the scriptures it says that the leadership of the church can never lead the people astray. That their agency is suspended upon reaching a high priesthood calling. I'll wait.

Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine

Posted: August 23rd, 2021, 8:15 pm
by Gadianton Slayer
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:09 pm No I did not agree to that.

There are multiple churches being referred to.

The lord did not condemn this church.
Wasn’t this you?

“I believe it is indeed referring to the LDS church and other restoration offshoots.”
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:09 pm
I do believe that at some point in the past or future that it was or will be polluted.

How you pin all this on our current First Presidency is still a mystery though. It’s your logic that falls apart.

These few verses are what has lead you to believe that President Nelson is a murderer? That’s your evidence?

How do you know it wasn’t Monson or Hinckley? How do you know it wasn’t Benson or McKay? How do you know it isn’t something that happens 100 years down the road?

How do you know that it isn’t referring to bishops and not the first Presidency? How do you know it isn’t referring to the early church?

That is what you are basing all these accusations on?
You won’t like my answer. I’m creating something that will include my thoughts and sources, I believe the corruption began in the early church and continues to today.

When it’s finished I’m sure you’ll know.

I’m done here, we won’t agree.

Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine

Posted: August 23rd, 2021, 8:16 pm
by TrueFaith
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:09 pm
Gadianton Slayer wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 7:49 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 7:42 pm
Gadianton Slayer wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 7:38 pm
So will you deny that he is speaking to the same people in verses 40-41?

The LDS church has blood on its hands.

These injections may very well be part of that (Isaiah 28:15,18).
No that might apply to the church as well. But I’m not sure.

I surely wouldn’t accuse President Nelson of those things though. That’s where you are making an impossible leap in logic.
It's not a maybe, he is speaking to the church. You agreed with that.

This is where your logic begins to fall apart, I tell you that because it happened to me.

You come in here telling everyone to follow the brethren's counsel and that they cannot lead us astray, and when you are confronted with scripture you must admit that the Lord condemned this church, specifically its leaders.

It's all there, we can justify our comfort as long as we want.

No I did not agree to that.

There are multiple churches being referred to.

The lord did not condemn this church.

I do believe that at some point in the past or future that it was or will be polluted.

How you pin all this on our current First Presidency is still a mystery though. It’s your logic that falls apart.

These few verses are what has lead you to believe that President Nelson is a murderer? That’s your evidence?

How do you know it wasn’t Monson or Hinckley? How do you know it wasn’t Benson or McKay? How do you know it isn’t something that happens 100 years down the road?

How do you know that it isn’t referring to bishops and not the first Presidency? How do you know it isn’t referring to the early church?

That is what you are basing all these accusations on?
Watch this video, the whole thing. We are in the end times right now. President Nelson has been deceived by this and done evil, but he, himself has spoken the truth when he said we would have front row seats to witness the final events before the second coming. The final battle is between those led by coercion and compulsion and those who believe in the freedom to choose.

See for yourself:

Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine

Posted: August 23rd, 2021, 8:20 pm
by A Global Faith
Gadianton Slayer wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:15 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:09 pm No I did not agree to that.

There are multiple churches being referred to.

The lord did not condemn this church.
Wasn’t this you?

“I believe it is indeed referring to the LDS church and other restoration offshoots.”
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:09 pm
I do believe that at some point in the past or future that it was or will be polluted.

How you pin all this on our current First Presidency is still a mystery though. It’s your logic that falls apart.

These few verses are what has lead you to believe that President Nelson is a murderer? That’s your evidence?

How do you know it wasn’t Monson or Hinckley? How do you know it wasn’t Benson or McKay? How do you know it isn’t something that happens 100 years down the road?

How do you know that it isn’t referring to bishops and not the first Presidency? How do you know it isn’t referring to the early church?

That is what you are basing all these accusations on?
You won’t like my answer. I’m creating something that will include my thoughts and sources, I believe the corruption began in the early church and continues to today.

When it’s finished I’m sure you’ll know.

I’m done here, we won’t agree.
I have no idea what you are saying.

The scripture says “why have you polluted the holy church of god?”

And then you say, see! Gotcha therefore President Nelson is a war criminal.

It doesn’t track.

I understand that the church is not perfect and is subject to all manner of mistakes. But this doesn’t mean that the First Presidency are murderers. That is too crazy.

Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine

Posted: August 23rd, 2021, 8:21 pm
by A Global Faith
TrueFaith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:16 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:09 pm
Gadianton Slayer wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 7:49 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 7:42 pm

No that might apply to the church as well. But I’m not sure.

I surely wouldn’t accuse President Nelson of those things though. That’s where you are making an impossible leap in logic.
It's not a maybe, he is speaking to the church. You agreed with that.

This is where your logic begins to fall apart, I tell you that because it happened to me.

You come in here telling everyone to follow the brethren's counsel and that they cannot lead us astray, and when you are confronted with scripture you must admit that the Lord condemned this church, specifically its leaders.

It's all there, we can justify our comfort as long as we want.

No I did not agree to that.

There are multiple churches being referred to.

The lord did not condemn this church.

I do believe that at some point in the past or future that it was or will be polluted.

How you pin all this on our current First Presidency is still a mystery though. It’s your logic that falls apart.

These few verses are what has lead you to believe that President Nelson is a murderer? That’s your evidence?

How do you know it wasn’t Monson or Hinckley? How do you know it wasn’t Benson or McKay? How do you know it isn’t something that happens 100 years down the road?

How do you know that it isn’t referring to bishops and not the first Presidency? How do you know it isn’t referring to the early church?

That is what you are basing all these accusations on?
Watch this video, the whole thing. We are in the end times right now. President Nelson has been deceived by this and done evil, but he, himself has spoken the truth when he said we would have front row seats to witness the final events before the second coming. The final battle is between those led by coercion and compulsion and those who believe in the freedom to choose.

See for yourself:

Ahh okay. So according to you President Nelson is a murdering war criminal but he is also prophetic at the same time.

Okay.

Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine

Posted: August 23rd, 2021, 8:23 pm
by TrueFaith
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:21 pm
TrueFaith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:16 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:09 pm
Gadianton Slayer wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 7:49 pm
It's not a maybe, he is speaking to the church. You agreed with that.

This is where your logic begins to fall apart, I tell you that because it happened to me.

You come in here telling everyone to follow the brethren's counsel and that they cannot lead us astray, and when you are confronted with scripture you must admit that the Lord condemned this church, specifically its leaders.

It's all there, we can justify our comfort as long as we want.

No I did not agree to that.

There are multiple churches being referred to.

The lord did not condemn this church.

I do believe that at some point in the past or future that it was or will be polluted.

How you pin all this on our current First Presidency is still a mystery though. It’s your logic that falls apart.

These few verses are what has lead you to believe that President Nelson is a murderer? That’s your evidence?

How do you know it wasn’t Monson or Hinckley? How do you know it wasn’t Benson or McKay? How do you know it isn’t something that happens 100 years down the road?

How do you know that it isn’t referring to bishops and not the first Presidency? How do you know it isn’t referring to the early church?

That is what you are basing all these accusations on?
Watch this video, the whole thing. We are in the end times right now. President Nelson has been deceived by this and done evil, but he, himself has spoken the truth when he said we would have front row seats to witness the final events before the second coming. The final battle is between those led by coercion and compulsion and those who believe in the freedom to choose.

See for yourself:

Ahh okay. So according to you President Nelson is a murdering war criminal but he is also prophetic at the same time.

Okay.
Yes, God spoke the truth through him, and then he was deceived, just like King David, Saul, Solomon. Prophets can begin righteous and turn wicked. All men are free to choose good and evil, even prophets.

Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine

Posted: August 23rd, 2021, 8:24 pm
by A Global Faith
OPMissionary wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:14 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:04 pm
TrueFaith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 7:48 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 7:40 pm

I wasn’t intending to stir trouble. I just came on here, made a few posts about being loyal to the LDS church leadership ala D&C 1:38, and before I know it I am a demon, a devil worshipper, and I am being informed that the First Presidency of our church is guilty of human rights violations and worse.

It has been eye opening. And semi interesting!

Some posters seem to be sincere. Some seem to be on drugs (or off of their prescribed drugs).

I just can’t follow the logic.

Is that the consensus? Arrest President Nelson for war crimes?
Yes, the word of God is "quick and powerful, sharper than a two-edged sword, to the dividing asunder of both joints and marrow.”
You’re saying yes?

The scriptures have lead you to believe that Russel M Nelson is guilty of war crimes?
Point to me where in the scriptures it says that the leadership of the church can never lead the people astray. That their agency is suspended upon reaching a high priesthood calling. I'll wait.
Are you on board with the war crimes accusation too then?

Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine

Posted: August 23rd, 2021, 8:25 pm
by OPMissionary
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:24 pm
OPMissionary wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:14 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:04 pm
TrueFaith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 7:48 pm

Yes, the word of God is "quick and powerful, sharper than a two-edged sword, to the dividing asunder of both joints and marrow.”
You’re saying yes?

The scriptures have lead you to believe that Russel M Nelson is guilty of war crimes?
Point to me where in the scriptures it says that the leadership of the church can never lead the people astray. That their agency is suspended upon reaching a high priesthood calling. I'll wait.
Are you on board with the war crimes accusation too then?
Not sure what you're talking about, but I'm still waiting on that scripture.

Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine

Posted: August 23rd, 2021, 8:25 pm
by A Global Faith
TrueFaith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:23 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:21 pm
TrueFaith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:16 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:09 pm


No I did not agree to that.

There are multiple churches being referred to.

The lord did not condemn this church.

I do believe that at some point in the past or future that it was or will be polluted.

How you pin all this on our current First Presidency is still a mystery though. It’s your logic that falls apart.

These few verses are what has lead you to believe that President Nelson is a murderer? That’s your evidence?

How do you know it wasn’t Monson or Hinckley? How do you know it wasn’t Benson or McKay? How do you know it isn’t something that happens 100 years down the road?

How do you know that it isn’t referring to bishops and not the first Presidency? How do you know it isn’t referring to the early church?

That is what you are basing all these accusations on?
Watch this video, the whole thing. We are in the end times right now. President Nelson has been deceived by this and done evil, but he, himself has spoken the truth when he said we would have front row seats to witness the final events before the second coming. The final battle is between those led by coercion and compulsion and those who believe in the freedom to choose.

See for yourself:

Ahh okay. So according to you President Nelson is a murdering war criminal but he is also prophetic at the same time.

Okay.
Yes, God spoke the truth through him, and then he was deceived, just like King David, Saul, Solomon. Prophets can begin righteous and turn wicked. All men are free to choose good and evil, even prophets.

Okay. Thank you for your opinion. Very interesting.

Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine

Posted: August 23rd, 2021, 8:26 pm
by TrueFaith
One of the greatest things Elder Nelson taught before he was deceived was that God's love is conditional.
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... e?lang=eng

Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine

Posted: August 23rd, 2021, 8:31 pm
by A Global Faith
OPMissionary wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:25 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:24 pm
OPMissionary wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:14 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:04 pm

You’re saying yes?

The scriptures have lead you to believe that Russel M Nelson is guilty of war crimes?
Point to me where in the scriptures it says that the leadership of the church can never lead the people astray. That their agency is suspended upon reaching a high priesthood calling. I'll wait.
Are you on board with the war crimes accusation too then?
Not sure what you're talking about, but I'm still waiting on that scripture.
No ones agency is ever suspended as far as I am aware.

However I have faith that our leadership is doing their best in these unprecedented times.

Anything is possible but I have no reason to believe anything other than the First Presidency has the best of intentions.

I am more worried about myself and family and those around me. Each family prayer, each episode of family scripture study, and each family home evening is a brushstroke on the canvas of our souls.

The lord has always provided prophets and apostles to guide His people. Of course he will do the same right now.

Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine

Posted: August 23rd, 2021, 8:33 pm
by A Global Faith
TrueFaith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:26 pm One of the greatest things Elder Nelson taught before he was deceived was that God's love is conditional.
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... e?lang=eng
You are all over the place.

Remember Lehis dream?

The fruit on the tree signified Gods love.

Obtaining it was conditional upon you reaching the tree and picking it.

Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine

Posted: August 23rd, 2021, 8:33 pm
by OPMissionary
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:09 pm
Gadianton Slayer wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 7:49 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 7:42 pm
Gadianton Slayer wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 7:38 pm
So will you deny that he is speaking to the same people in verses 40-41?

The LDS church has blood on its hands.

These injections may very well be part of that (Isaiah 28:15,18).
No that might apply to the church as well. But I’m not sure.

I surely wouldn’t accuse President Nelson of those things though. That’s where you are making an impossible leap in logic.
It's not a maybe, he is speaking to the church. You agreed with that.

This is where your logic begins to fall apart, I tell you that because it happened to me.

You come in here telling everyone to follow the brethren's counsel and that they cannot lead us astray, and when you are confronted with scripture you must admit that the Lord condemned this church, specifically its leaders.

It's all there, we can justify our comfort as long as we want.

No I did not agree to that.

There are multiple churches being referred to.

The lord did not condemn this church.

I do believe that at some point in the past or future that it was or will be polluted.

How you pin all this on our current First Presidency is still a mystery though. It’s your logic that falls apart.

These few verses are what has lead you to believe that President Nelson is a murderer? That’s your evidence?

How do you know it wasn’t Monson or Hinckley? How do you know it wasn’t Benson or McKay? How do you know it isn’t something that happens 100 years down the road?

How do you know that it isn’t referring to bishops and not the first Presidency? How do you know it isn’t referring to the early church?

That is what you are basing all these accusations on?
I'm surprised that he got you to admit that the church can indeed be led astray. My question is, why do you you think that couldn't happen now? Do you really trust a church that preaches obedience to the government and man's methods? We know from the Book of Mormon that governments are corrupt and engage in secret combinations. We also know that there will be a "mark" of the devil that will be required in order to buy and sell. If that doesn't ring a bell, then I'm not sure I can help you any further. I hope at this point you can see why many are concerned, even if you don't agree.

Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine

Posted: August 23rd, 2021, 8:34 pm
by Gadianton Slayer
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:31 pm The lord has always provided prophets and apostles to guide His people. Of course he will do the same right now.
Numbers 11:29

Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine

Posted: August 23rd, 2021, 8:40 pm
by A Global Faith
OPMissionary wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:33 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:09 pm
Gadianton Slayer wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 7:49 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 7:42 pm

No that might apply to the church as well. But I’m not sure.

I surely wouldn’t accuse President Nelson of those things though. That’s where you are making an impossible leap in logic.
It's not a maybe, he is speaking to the church. You agreed with that.

This is where your logic begins to fall apart, I tell you that because it happened to me.

You come in here telling everyone to follow the brethren's counsel and that they cannot lead us astray, and when you are confronted with scripture you must admit that the Lord condemned this church, specifically its leaders.

It's all there, we can justify our comfort as long as we want.

No I did not agree to that.

There are multiple churches being referred to.

The lord did not condemn this church.

I do believe that at some point in the past or future that it was or will be polluted.

How you pin all this on our current First Presidency is still a mystery though. It’s your logic that falls apart.

These few verses are what has lead you to believe that President Nelson is a murderer? That’s your evidence?

How do you know it wasn’t Monson or Hinckley? How do you know it wasn’t Benson or McKay? How do you know it isn’t something that happens 100 years down the road?

How do you know that it isn’t referring to bishops and not the first Presidency? How do you know it isn’t referring to the early church?

That is what you are basing all these accusations on?
I'm surprised that he got you to admit that the church can indeed be led astray. My question is, why do you you think that couldn't happen now? Do you really trust a church that preaches obedience to the government and man's methods? We know from the Book of Mormon that governments are corrupt and engage in secret combinations. We also know that there will be a "mark" of the devil that will be required in order to buy and sell. If that doesn't ring a bell, then I'm not sure I can help you any further. I hope at this point you can see why many are concerned, even if you don't agree.

Did you read through this thread? They believe that President Nelson, Oaks and Eyring are guilty of war crimes, murders, crimes against humanity, whoredoms, genocide and more.

Are you now saying that Covid-19 vaccination is the literal mark of the beast spoken of in Revelation?

We could go astray at any moment. Every moment we are in peril. We work out our salvation with fear and trembling.

But this is too much. They are using 1000 year old ambiguous scripture verses to pin murders onto people.

I have a feeling that if we were to talk face to face, you and I, these other people on here, and the First Presidency… it would be instantly apparent who is more grounded in reality and who is just on or off their meds and willing to toss around wild accusations.

Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine

Posted: August 23rd, 2021, 8:41 pm
by Fred
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:09 pm
Gadianton Slayer wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 7:49 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 7:42 pm
Gadianton Slayer wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 7:38 pm
So will you deny that he is speaking to the same people in verses 40-41?

The LDS church has blood on its hands.

These injections may very well be part of that (Isaiah 28:15,18).
No that might apply to the church as well. But I’m not sure.

I surely wouldn’t accuse President Nelson of those things though. That’s where you are making an impossible leap in logic.
It's not a maybe, he is speaking to the church. You agreed with that.

This is where your logic begins to fall apart, I tell you that because it happened to me.

You come in here telling everyone to follow the brethren's counsel and that they cannot lead us astray, and when you are confronted with scripture you must admit that the Lord condemned this church, specifically its leaders.

It's all there, we can justify our comfort as long as we want.

No I did not agree to that.

There are multiple churches being referred to.

The lord did not condemn this church.

I do believe that at some point in the past or future that it was or will be polluted.

How you pin all this on our current First Presidency is still a mystery though. It’s your logic that falls apart.

These few verses are what has lead you to believe that President Nelson is a murderer? That’s your evidence?

How do you know it wasn’t Monson or Hinckley? How do you know it wasn’t Benson or McKay? How do you know it isn’t something that happens 100 years down the road?

How do you know that it isn’t referring to bishops and not the first Presidency? How do you know it isn’t referring to the early church?

That is what you are basing all these accusations on?
There are ONLT 2 churches. Are you making up scripture?

Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine

Posted: August 23rd, 2021, 8:41 pm
by A Global Faith
Gadianton Slayer wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:34 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:31 pm The lord has always provided prophets and apostles to guide His people. Of course he will do the same right now.
Numbers 11:29
I am aware.

Also aware of Numbers 12:6

Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine

Posted: August 23rd, 2021, 8:45 pm
by Fred
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:41 pm
Gadianton Slayer wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:34 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:31 pm The lord has always provided prophets and apostles to guide His people. Of course he will do the same right now.
Numbers 11:29
I am aware.

Also aware of Numbers 12:6
You must be proud of yourself. The literal godsend has killed over 50,000 just in the US. Some of those were sent to their death by RMN. Even a dumb arse can read the label on a mask that says it does not work. So that makes RMN a liar, among other things.

Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine

Posted: August 23rd, 2021, 8:46 pm
by A Global Faith
Fred wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:41 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:09 pm
Gadianton Slayer wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 7:49 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 7:42 pm

No that might apply to the church as well. But I’m not sure.

I surely wouldn’t accuse President Nelson of those things though. That’s where you are making an impossible leap in logic.
It's not a maybe, he is speaking to the church. You agreed with that.

This is where your logic begins to fall apart, I tell you that because it happened to me.

You come in here telling everyone to follow the brethren's counsel and that they cannot lead us astray, and when you are confronted with scripture you must admit that the Lord condemned this church, specifically its leaders.

It's all there, we can justify our comfort as long as we want.

No I did not agree to that.

There are multiple churches being referred to.

The lord did not condemn this church.

I do believe that at some point in the past or future that it was or will be polluted.

How you pin all this on our current First Presidency is still a mystery though. It’s your logic that falls apart.

These few verses are what has lead you to believe that President Nelson is a murderer? That’s your evidence?

How do you know it wasn’t Monson or Hinckley? How do you know it wasn’t Benson or McKay? How do you know it isn’t something that happens 100 years down the road?

How do you know that it isn’t referring to bishops and not the first Presidency? How do you know it isn’t referring to the early church?

That is what you are basing all these accusations on?
There are ONLT 2 churches. Are you making up scripture?
Calm down little fella. I am aware of what Nephi wrote.

Despite what he wrote though, Mormon prophesied multiple churches being polluted.

Sorry to break that to you.

You can’t just pin your whole philosophy on one or two verses. This may be all of yours problem. You have some sort of fixation on a few verses but forget that there are many others.

“your churches, yea, even every one, have become polluted because of the pride of your hearts.”

I guess there is the church of the lamb and the church of the devil and also these other multiple polluted churches? Go figure.

Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine

Posted: August 23rd, 2021, 8:46 pm
by Gadianton Slayer
I want to point something out...

He went from this:
A Global Faith wrote: August 22nd, 2021, 6:00 pm Follow the Prophet. He won’t lead you astray.
To this:
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:09 pm I do believe that at some point in the past or future that it was or will be polluted.
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:20 pm I understand that the church is not perfect and is subject to all manner of mistakes.
That’s what we call progress people!!!
🤜🤛

Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine

Posted: August 23rd, 2021, 8:47 pm
by A Global Faith
Fred wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:45 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:41 pm
Gadianton Slayer wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:34 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:31 pm The lord has always provided prophets and apostles to guide His people. Of course he will do the same right now.
Numbers 11:29
I am aware.

Also aware of Numbers 12:6
You must be proud of yourself. The literal godsend has killed over 50,000 just in the US. Some of those were sent to their death by RMN. Even a dumb arse can read the label on a mask that says it does not work. So that makes RMN a liar, among other things.

I will add liar to the list of accusations I guess but I must say, lying would be the least of his crimes if you all are right.

Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine

Posted: August 23rd, 2021, 8:48 pm
by Fred
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:46 pm
Fred wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:41 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:09 pm
Gadianton Slayer wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 7:49 pm
It's not a maybe, he is speaking to the church. You agreed with that.

This is where your logic begins to fall apart, I tell you that because it happened to me.

You come in here telling everyone to follow the brethren's counsel and that they cannot lead us astray, and when you are confronted with scripture you must admit that the Lord condemned this church, specifically its leaders.

It's all there, we can justify our comfort as long as we want.

No I did not agree to that.

There are multiple churches being referred to.

The lord did not condemn this church.

I do believe that at some point in the past or future that it was or will be polluted.

How you pin all this on our current First Presidency is still a mystery though. It’s your logic that falls apart.

These few verses are what has lead you to believe that President Nelson is a murderer? That’s your evidence?

How do you know it wasn’t Monson or Hinckley? How do you know it wasn’t Benson or McKay? How do you know it isn’t something that happens 100 years down the road?

How do you know that it isn’t referring to bishops and not the first Presidency? How do you know it isn’t referring to the early church?

That is what you are basing all these accusations on?
There are ONLT 2 churches. Are you making up scripture?
Calm down little fella. I am aware of what Nephi wrote.

Despite what he wrote though, Mormon prophesied multiple churches being polluted.

Sorry to break that to you.

You can’t just pin your whole philosophy on one or two verses. This may be all of yours problem. You have some sort of fixation on a few verses but forget that there are many others.

“your churches, yea, even every one, have become polluted because of the pride of your hearts.”

I guess there is the church of the lamb and the church of the devil and also these other multiple polluted churches? Go figure.

You keep avoiding the issue. Masks do not work and the jab kills. There can be no denying that RMN is a liar and sent people to their death.

Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine

Posted: August 23rd, 2021, 8:49 pm
by Fred
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:47 pm
Fred wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:45 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:41 pm
Gadianton Slayer wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:34 pm
Numbers 11:29
I am aware.

Also aware of Numbers 12:6
You must be proud of yourself. The literal godsend has killed over 50,000 just in the US. Some of those were sent to their death by RMN. Even a dumb arse can read the label on a mask that says it does not work. So that makes RMN a liar, among other things.

I will add liar to the list of accusations I guess but I must say, lying would be the least of his crimes if you all are right.
You have no evidence to say otherwise. Therefore you are agreeing that RMN is all of the things accused of.

Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine

Posted: August 23rd, 2021, 8:50 pm
by TrueFaith
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:33 pm
TrueFaith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 8:26 pm One of the greatest things Elder Nelson taught before he was deceived was that God's love is conditional.
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... e?lang=eng
You are all over the place.

Remember Lehis dream?

The fruit on the tree signified Gods love.

Obtaining it was conditional upon you reaching the tree and picking it.
Wrong. The love of God was received when they "tasted" the fruit. The word "pick" doesn't exist in the scriptures.