There are videos of people in Spain literally being held down by men and given the shot against their will. The vids get taken down so fast though, I haven't gotten the chance to download any.TrueFaith wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 5:27 pmWhere have you been, that is happening all over the world right now.A Global Faith wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 5:21 pmYoung man (woman),TrueFaith wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 5:18 pmStop lying. Forcing medical care is not the same thing. It is compulsion if it has nothing to do with your job.A Global Faith wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 5:16 pm
Young man (woman), I am not lying.
You are just not understanding.
Your employer may also require you to wear a certain uniform. You may also be required to work on certain days and at a certain times. You are required to do what the supervisors ask of you.
This is not compulsion. You are still free not to. They just may not pay you anymore if you don’t.
Compulsion would be when they strap you down and inject you against your will.
Compulsion would be when they throw you in jail if you don’t comply.
You know nothing of compulsion.
This is decades old. I had to get vaccinated to serve a mission many many years ago. I wasn’t compelled to. But it was required. So was a haircut and suit.
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First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
- Gadianton Slayer
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Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
Why are you guys still carrying on with the troll? Just don't play his game. It's all BS.
- A Global Faith
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Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
I was reported to the moderator for asking people about tithing.
Yet I had been asked about everything from devil worship to rape.
What exactly is going on here?
You can go back through and read my posts. They are respectful.
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TrueFaith
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Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
It's enjoyable and presents a nice challenge. It's easy to get complacent on these forums because we're mostly in agreement. It's fun to prove to someone that they are misguided and misdirected like this fellow every once in a while.
"Contend against no church, save it be the church of the devil."
D&C 18:20
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TrueFaith
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Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
Telling people they should be forced to be vaccinated with poison is the most disrespectful thing I've read on these forums.A Global Faith wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:17 pm
I was reported to the moderator for asking people about tithing.
Yet I had been asked about everything from devil worship to rape.
What exactly is going on here?
You can go back through and read my posts. They are respectful.
- A Global Faith
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Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
All you’ve done is named calledTrueFaith wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:33 pmIt's enjoyable and presents a nice challenge. It's easy to get complacent on these forums because we're mostly in agreement. It's fun to prove to someone that they are misguided and misdirected like this fellow every once in a while.
"Contend against no church, save it be the church of the devil."
D&C 18:20
- A Global Faith
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Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
TrueFaith wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:36 pmTelling people they should be forced to be vaccinated with poison is the most disrespectful thing I've read on these forums.A Global Faith wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:17 pm
I was reported to the moderator for asking people about tithing.
Yet I had been asked about everything from devil worship to rape.
What exactly is going on here?
You can go back through and read my posts. They are respectful.
If I’ve written that then go ahead and link to it.
You won’t be able to though.
Because I haven’t.
You are just looking for a fight and chose to pick on the old guy which is fine. But it doesn’t mean you’re right.
It just shows that you don’t know the difference between “urge” and “compel”
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Niyr
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Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
The guy hasn't said that, so let's at least try to keep the debate honest.TrueFaith wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:36 pmTelling people they should be forced to be vaccinated with poison is the most disrespectful thing I've read on these forums.A Global Faith wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:17 pm
I was reported to the moderator for asking people about tithing.
Yet I had been asked about everything from devil worship to rape.
What exactly is going on here?
You can go back through and read my posts. They are respectful.
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TrueFaith
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Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
Yes, I've used strong words because you've supported strong actions. You are causing pain by supporting and pushing a vaccine which is killing thousands around the world and hurting others in unimaginable ways. I have held back the words I'd like to say.A Global Faith wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:37 pmAll you’ve done is named calledTrueFaith wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:33 pmIt's enjoyable and presents a nice challenge. It's easy to get complacent on these forums because we're mostly in agreement. It's fun to prove to someone that they are misguided and misdirected like this fellow every once in a while.
"Contend against no church, save it be the church of the devil."
D&C 18:20
But they are words only. Speech.
People here want to be left alone on this issue. Please let us choose in peace.
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larsenb
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Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
But they aren't safe and effective. They lack the long term testing to really be able to say they're safe; and the VAERS data and direct experimental data coming from Dr. Hoffe and others belie this assertion, as well.A Global Faith wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 4:04 pmI’m not saying it. I am repeating the words of the leaders. They said we are all urged to get it. They also said that they are safe and effective.
Your argument is not with me.
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- A Global Faith
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Thank you.Niyr wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:41 pmThe guy hasn't said that, so let's at least try to keep the debate honest.TrueFaith wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:36 pmTelling people they should be forced to be vaccinated with poison is the most disrespectful thing I've read on these forums.A Global Faith wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:17 pm
I was reported to the moderator for asking people about tithing.
Yet I had been asked about everything from devil worship to rape.
What exactly is going on here?
You can go back through and read my posts. They are respectful.
I have been wondering if this is just a place for loons or if there is actually any worthwhile discussion on here.
I appreciate you.
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AstonishingGrunt
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Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
Pretty much had the same experience in this very thread. Got reported for...something...and got labelled and called names pretty much from the outset. Welcome to the club.A Global Faith wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:17 pm
I was reported to the moderator for asking people about tithing.
Yet I had been asked about everything from devil worship to rape.
What exactly is going on here?
You can go back through and read my posts. They are respectful.
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TrueFaith
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Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
Yes he did. He said he was looking forward to when employers required vaccines to prove people are following the prophet. Go back and read it yourself.Niyr wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:41 pmThe guy hasn't said that, so let's at least try to keep the debate honest.TrueFaith wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:36 pmTelling people they should be forced to be vaccinated with poison is the most disrespectful thing I've read on these forums.A Global Faith wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:17 pm
I was reported to the moderator for asking people about tithing.
Yet I had been asked about everything from devil worship to rape.
What exactly is going on here?
You can go back through and read my posts. They are respectful.
- A Global Faith
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Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
TrueFaith wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:42 pmYes, I've used strong words because you've supported strong actions. You are causing pain by supporting and pushing a vaccine which is killing thousands around the world and hurting others in unimaginable ways. I have held back the words I'd like to say.A Global Faith wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:37 pmAll you’ve done is named calledTrueFaith wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:33 pmIt's enjoyable and presents a nice challenge. It's easy to get complacent on these forums because we're mostly in agreement. It's fun to prove to someone that they are misguided and misdirected like this fellow every once in a while.
"Contend against no church, save it be the church of the devil."
D&C 18:20
But they are words only. Speech.
People here want to be left alone on this issue. Please let us choose in peace.
You are a drama queen.
All I have done is written a few things in support of our church leaders, state governments, federal government and top researchers around the world.
I understand that not everyone agrees.
But look around. Our First Presidency has recommended this. You are basically accusing them of murder.
It’s just drama drama drama with you.
- A Global Faith
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Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
TrueFaith wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:44 pmYes he did. He said he was looking forward to when employers required vaccines to prove people are following the prophet. Go back and read it yourself.Niyr wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:41 pmThe guy hasn't said that, so let's at least try to keep the debate honest.TrueFaith wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:36 pmTelling people they should be forced to be vaccinated with poison is the most disrespectful thing I've read on these forums.A Global Faith wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:17 pm
I was reported to the moderator for asking people about tithing.
Yet I had been asked about everything from devil worship to rape.
What exactly is going on here?
You can go back through and read my posts. They are respectful.
So in your mind requiring a vaccine for employment is the same as forcing someone to be vaccinated?
How? Vaccination is also required for missions. Has been for decades.
You are just a drama queen seems like. You don’t understand that in English those two concepts are not the same.
- Gadianton Slayer
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Among other things. You've chosen a rather mild thread.
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TrueFaith
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Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
They are supporting murder. They should be arrested for what they have done. I want to know how much money they are making off this scam.A Global Faith wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:46 pmTrueFaith wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:42 pmYes, I've used strong words because you've supported strong actions. You are causing pain by supporting and pushing a vaccine which is killing thousands around the world and hurting others in unimaginable ways. I have held back the words I'd like to say.A Global Faith wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:37 pmAll you’ve done is named calledTrueFaith wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:33 pm
It's enjoyable and presents a nice challenge. It's easy to get complacent on these forums because we're mostly in agreement. It's fun to prove to someone that they are misguided and misdirected like this fellow every once in a while.
"Contend against no church, save it be the church of the devil."
D&C 18:20
But they are words only. Speech.
People here want to be left alone on this issue. Please let us choose in peace.
You are a drama queen.
All I have done is written a few things in support of our church leaders, state governments, federal government and top researchers around the world.
I understand that not everyone agrees.
But look around. Our First Presidency has recommended this. You are basically accusing them of murder.
It’s just drama drama drama with you.
People are losing their lives and livelihood all around the world. Do you seriously only watch CNN, do you know the government in Australia abducted thousands of children to force vaccinate them? They're killing dogs in cold blood. They're locking people up for walking outside.
This isn't drama. This is real. People are literally being rounded up and put in camps for possible covid infection. This tyranny is as bad as anything that ever happened under Communist regimes.
Wake up to the awful situation surrounding us.
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Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
So you are accusing them of murder? Oh my. What else?Gadianton Slayer wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:50 pmAmong other things. You've chosen a rather mild thread.
- Gadianton Slayer
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Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
As did Christ, Moroni, and Isaiah. I'm on good ground.A Global Faith wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:51 pmSo you are accusing them of murder? Oh my. What else?Gadianton Slayer wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:50 pmAmong other things. You've chosen a rather mild thread.
- A Global Faith
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TrueFaith wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:50 pmThey are supporting murder. They should be arrested for what they have done. I want to know how much money they are making off this scam.A Global Faith wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:46 pmTrueFaith wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:42 pmYes, I've used strong words because you've supported strong actions. You are causing pain by supporting and pushing a vaccine which is killing thousands around the world and hurting others in unimaginable ways. I have held back the words I'd like to say.
But they are words only. Speech.
People here want to be left alone on this issue. Please let us choose in peace.
You are a drama queen.
All I have done is written a few things in support of our church leaders, state governments, federal government and top researchers around the world.
I understand that not everyone agrees.
But look around. Our First Presidency has recommended this. You are basically accusing them of murder.
It’s just drama drama drama with you.
People are losing their lives and livelihood all around the world. Do you seriously only watch CNN, do you know the government in Australia abducted thousands of children to force vaccinate them? They're killing dogs in cold blood. They're locking people up for walking outside.
This isn't drama. This is real. People are literally being rounded up and put in camps for possible covid infection. This tyranny is as bad as anything that ever happened under Communist regimes.
Wake up to the awful situation surrounding us.
The First Presidency should be arrested?
That is what you’ve been getting at?
Okay. I had no idea that I was dealing with talking to you. Now I see.
- nightlight
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Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
Lol you've the VAST majority the world to echo in your chamber....why come to the fringe with the loons ?AstonishingGrunt wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:43 pmPretty much had the same experience in this very thread. Got reported for...something...and got labelled and called names pretty much from the outset. Welcome to the club.A Global Faith wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:17 pm
I was reported to the moderator for asking people about tithing.
Yet I had been asked about everything from devil worship to rape.
What exactly is going on here?
You can go back through and read my posts. They are respectful.
- A Global Faith
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Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
Christ accused the First Presidency of murder?Gadianton Slayer wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:52 pmAs did Christ, Moroni, and Isaiah. I'm on good ground.A Global Faith wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:51 pmSo you are accusing them of murder? Oh my. What else?Gadianton Slayer wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:50 pmAmong other things. You've chosen a rather mild thread.
- A Global Faith
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Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
I don’t know. I didn’t know what I was getting into.nightlight wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:53 pmLol you've the VAST majority the world to echo in your chamber....why come to the fringe with the loons ?AstonishingGrunt wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:43 pmPretty much had the same experience in this very thread. Got reported for...something...and got labelled and called names pretty much from the outset. Welcome to the club.A Global Faith wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:17 pm
I was reported to the moderator for asking people about tithing.
Yet I had been asked about everything from devil worship to rape.
What exactly is going on here?
You can go back through and read my posts. They are respectful.
The world is so big that it doesn’t echo. Only little places like this do.
But I had no idea that this was the prevailing sentiment.
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TrueFaith
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Re: First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine
Absolutely arrested. They have a responsibility in this crime. This is the greatest hoax in world history. It has caused the greatest worldwide loss of human freedom ever.A Global Faith wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:53 pmTrueFaith wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:50 pmThey are supporting murder. They should be arrested for what they have done. I want to know how much money they are making off this scam.A Global Faith wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:46 pmTrueFaith wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:42 pm
Yes, I've used strong words because you've supported strong actions. You are causing pain by supporting and pushing a vaccine which is killing thousands around the world and hurting others in unimaginable ways. I have held back the words I'd like to say.
But they are words only. Speech.
People here want to be left alone on this issue. Please let us choose in peace.
You are a drama queen.
All I have done is written a few things in support of our church leaders, state governments, federal government and top researchers around the world.
I understand that not everyone agrees.
But look around. Our First Presidency has recommended this. You are basically accusing them of murder.
It’s just drama drama drama with you.
People are losing their lives and livelihood all around the world. Do you seriously only watch CNN, do you know the government in Australia abducted thousands of children to force vaccinate them? They're killing dogs in cold blood. They're locking people up for walking outside.
This isn't drama. This is real. People are literally being rounded up and put in camps for possible covid infection. This tyranny is as bad as anything that ever happened under Communist regimes.
Wake up to the awful situation surrounding us.
The First Presidency should be arrested?
That is what you’ve been getting at?
Okay. I had no idea that I was dealing with talking to you. Now I see.
We locked up British leadership for less than this. Captain Moroni did far worse to Nephite leaders taking freedom from the Nephite people. Alma 51. Read it.
