First Presidency Urges Saints to Wear Masks and Take the Vaccine

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TrueFaith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 5:27 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 5:21 pm
TrueFaith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 5:18 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 5:16 pm


Young man (woman), I am not lying.

You are just not understanding.

Your employer may also require you to wear a certain uniform. You may also be required to work on certain days and at a certain times. You are required to do what the supervisors ask of you.

This is not compulsion. You are still free not to. They just may not pay you anymore if you don’t.
Stop lying. Forcing medical care is not the same thing. It is compulsion if it has nothing to do with your job.
Young man (woman),

Compulsion would be when they strap you down and inject you against your will.

Compulsion would be when they throw you in jail if you don’t comply.

You know nothing of compulsion.

This is decades old. I had to get vaccinated to serve a mission many many years ago. I wasn’t compelled to. But it was required. So was a haircut and suit.

Please calm down.
Where have you been, that is happening all over the world right now. :lol:
There are videos of people in Spain literally being held down by men and given the shot against their will. The vids get taken down so fast though, I haven't gotten the chance to download any.

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Why are you guys still carrying on with the troll? Just don't play his game. It's all BS.

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Chip wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 5:30 pm Why are you guys still carrying on with the troll? Just don't play his game. It's all BS.

I was reported to the moderator for asking people about tithing.

Yet I had been asked about everything from devil worship to rape.

What exactly is going on here?

You can go back through and read my posts. They are respectful.

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Chip wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 5:30 pm Why are you guys still carrying on with the troll? Just don't play his game. It's all BS.
It's entertaining on occasion.

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Chip wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 5:30 pm Why are you guys still carrying on with the troll? Just don't play his game. It's all BS.
It's enjoyable and presents a nice challenge. It's easy to get complacent on these forums because we're mostly in agreement. It's fun to prove to someone that they are misguided and misdirected like this fellow every once in a while.

"Contend against no church, save it be the church of the devil."
D&C 18:20

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A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:17 pm
Chip wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 5:30 pm Why are you guys still carrying on with the troll? Just don't play his game. It's all BS.

I was reported to the moderator for asking people about tithing.

Yet I had been asked about everything from devil worship to rape.

What exactly is going on here?

You can go back through and read my posts. They are respectful.
Telling people they should be forced to be vaccinated with poison is the most disrespectful thing I've read on these forums.

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TrueFaith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:33 pm
Chip wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 5:30 pm Why are you guys still carrying on with the troll? Just don't play his game. It's all BS.
It's enjoyable and presents a nice challenge. It's easy to get complacent on these forums because we're mostly in agreement. It's fun to prove to someone that they are misguided and misdirected like this fellow every once in a while.

"Contend against no church, save it be the church of the devil."
D&C 18:20
All you’ve done is named called

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TrueFaith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:36 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:17 pm
Chip wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 5:30 pm Why are you guys still carrying on with the troll? Just don't play his game. It's all BS.

I was reported to the moderator for asking people about tithing.

Yet I had been asked about everything from devil worship to rape.

What exactly is going on here?

You can go back through and read my posts. They are respectful.
Telling people they should be forced to be vaccinated with poison is the most disrespectful thing I've read on these forums.

If I’ve written that then go ahead and link to it.

You won’t be able to though.

Because I haven’t.

You are just looking for a fight and chose to pick on the old guy which is fine. But it doesn’t mean you’re right.

It just shows that you don’t know the difference between “urge” and “compel”

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TrueFaith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:36 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:17 pm
Chip wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 5:30 pm Why are you guys still carrying on with the troll? Just don't play his game. It's all BS.

I was reported to the moderator for asking people about tithing.

Yet I had been asked about everything from devil worship to rape.

What exactly is going on here?

You can go back through and read my posts. They are respectful.
Telling people they should be forced to be vaccinated with poison is the most disrespectful thing I've read on these forums.
The guy hasn't said that, so let's at least try to keep the debate honest.

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A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:37 pm
TrueFaith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:33 pm
Chip wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 5:30 pm Why are you guys still carrying on with the troll? Just don't play his game. It's all BS.
It's enjoyable and presents a nice challenge. It's easy to get complacent on these forums because we're mostly in agreement. It's fun to prove to someone that they are misguided and misdirected like this fellow every once in a while.

"Contend against no church, save it be the church of the devil."
D&C 18:20
All you’ve done is named called
Yes, I've used strong words because you've supported strong actions. You are causing pain by supporting and pushing a vaccine which is killing thousands around the world and hurting others in unimaginable ways. I have held back the words I'd like to say.

But they are words only. Speech.

People here want to be left alone on this issue. Please let us choose in peace.

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A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 4:04 pm
HereWeGo wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 4:02 pm Tell all the people who died or were maimed shortly after taking the shot that "It won't hurt".
I’m not saying it. I am repeating the words of the leaders. They said we are all urged to get it. They also said that they are safe and effective.

Your argument is not with me.
But they aren't safe and effective. They lack the long term testing to really be able to say they're safe; and the VAERS data and direct experimental data coming from Dr. Hoffe and others belie this assertion, as well.
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Niyr wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:41 pm
TrueFaith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:36 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:17 pm
Chip wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 5:30 pm Why are you guys still carrying on with the troll? Just don't play his game. It's all BS.

I was reported to the moderator for asking people about tithing.

Yet I had been asked about everything from devil worship to rape.

What exactly is going on here?

You can go back through and read my posts. They are respectful.
Telling people they should be forced to be vaccinated with poison is the most disrespectful thing I've read on these forums.
The guy hasn't said that, so let's at least try to keep the debate honest.
Thank you.

I have been wondering if this is just a place for loons or if there is actually any worthwhile discussion on here.

I appreciate you.

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A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:17 pm
Chip wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 5:30 pm Why are you guys still carrying on with the troll? Just don't play his game. It's all BS.

I was reported to the moderator for asking people about tithing.

Yet I had been asked about everything from devil worship to rape.

What exactly is going on here?

You can go back through and read my posts. They are respectful.
Pretty much had the same experience in this very thread. Got reported for...something...and got labelled and called names pretty much from the outset. Welcome to the club.

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Niyr wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:41 pm
TrueFaith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:36 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:17 pm
Chip wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 5:30 pm Why are you guys still carrying on with the troll? Just don't play his game. It's all BS.

I was reported to the moderator for asking people about tithing.

Yet I had been asked about everything from devil worship to rape.

What exactly is going on here?

You can go back through and read my posts. They are respectful.
Telling people they should be forced to be vaccinated with poison is the most disrespectful thing I've read on these forums.
The guy hasn't said that, so let's at least try to keep the debate honest.
Yes he did. He said he was looking forward to when employers required vaccines to prove people are following the prophet. Go back and read it yourself.

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TrueFaith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:42 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:37 pm
TrueFaith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:33 pm
Chip wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 5:30 pm Why are you guys still carrying on with the troll? Just don't play his game. It's all BS.
It's enjoyable and presents a nice challenge. It's easy to get complacent on these forums because we're mostly in agreement. It's fun to prove to someone that they are misguided and misdirected like this fellow every once in a while.

"Contend against no church, save it be the church of the devil."
D&C 18:20
All you’ve done is named called
Yes, I've used strong words because you've supported strong actions. You are causing pain by supporting and pushing a vaccine which is killing thousands around the world and hurting others in unimaginable ways. I have held back the words I'd like to say.

But they are words only. Speech.

People here want to be left alone on this issue. Please let us choose in peace.

You are a drama queen.

All I have done is written a few things in support of our church leaders, state governments, federal government and top researchers around the world.

I understand that not everyone agrees.

But look around. Our First Presidency has recommended this. You are basically accusing them of murder.

It’s just drama drama drama with you.

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TrueFaith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:44 pm
Niyr wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:41 pm
TrueFaith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:36 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:17 pm


I was reported to the moderator for asking people about tithing.

Yet I had been asked about everything from devil worship to rape.

What exactly is going on here?

You can go back through and read my posts. They are respectful.
Telling people they should be forced to be vaccinated with poison is the most disrespectful thing I've read on these forums.
The guy hasn't said that, so let's at least try to keep the debate honest.
Yes he did. He said he was looking forward to when employers required vaccines to prove people are following the prophet. Go back and read it yourself.

So in your mind requiring a vaccine for employment is the same as forcing someone to be vaccinated?

How? Vaccination is also required for missions. Has been for decades.

You are just a drama queen seems like. You don’t understand that in English those two concepts are not the same.

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A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:46 pm You are basically accusing them of murder.
Among other things. You've chosen a rather mild thread.

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A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:46 pm
TrueFaith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:42 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:37 pm
TrueFaith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:33 pm

It's enjoyable and presents a nice challenge. It's easy to get complacent on these forums because we're mostly in agreement. It's fun to prove to someone that they are misguided and misdirected like this fellow every once in a while.

"Contend against no church, save it be the church of the devil."
D&C 18:20
All you’ve done is named called
Yes, I've used strong words because you've supported strong actions. You are causing pain by supporting and pushing a vaccine which is killing thousands around the world and hurting others in unimaginable ways. I have held back the words I'd like to say.

But they are words only. Speech.

People here want to be left alone on this issue. Please let us choose in peace.

You are a drama queen.

All I have done is written a few things in support of our church leaders, state governments, federal government and top researchers around the world.

I understand that not everyone agrees.

But look around. Our First Presidency has recommended this. You are basically accusing them of murder.

It’s just drama drama drama with you.
They are supporting murder. They should be arrested for what they have done. I want to know how much money they are making off this scam.

People are losing their lives and livelihood all around the world. Do you seriously only watch CNN, do you know the government in Australia abducted thousands of children to force vaccinate them? They're killing dogs in cold blood. They're locking people up for walking outside.

This isn't drama. This is real. People are literally being rounded up and put in camps for possible covid infection. This tyranny is as bad as anything that ever happened under Communist regimes.

Wake up to the awful situation surrounding us.
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Gadianton Slayer wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:50 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:46 pm You are basically accusing them of murder.
Among other things. You've chosen a rather mild thread.
So you are accusing them of murder? Oh my. What else?

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A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:51 pm
Gadianton Slayer wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:50 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:46 pm You are basically accusing them of murder.
Among other things. You've chosen a rather mild thread.
So you are accusing them of murder? Oh my. What else?
As did Christ, Moroni, and Isaiah. I'm on good ground.

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TrueFaith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:50 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:46 pm
TrueFaith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:42 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:37 pm

All you’ve done is named called
Yes, I've used strong words because you've supported strong actions. You are causing pain by supporting and pushing a vaccine which is killing thousands around the world and hurting others in unimaginable ways. I have held back the words I'd like to say.

But they are words only. Speech.

People here want to be left alone on this issue. Please let us choose in peace.

You are a drama queen.

All I have done is written a few things in support of our church leaders, state governments, federal government and top researchers around the world.

I understand that not everyone agrees.

But look around. Our First Presidency has recommended this. You are basically accusing them of murder.

It’s just drama drama drama with you.
They are supporting murder. They should be arrested for what they have done. I want to know how much money they are making off this scam.

People are losing their lives and livelihood all around the world. Do you seriously only watch CNN, do you know the government in Australia abducted thousands of children to force vaccinate them? They're killing dogs in cold blood. They're locking people up for walking outside.

This isn't drama. This is real. People are literally being rounded up and put in camps for possible covid infection. This tyranny is as bad as anything that ever happened under Communist regimes.

Wake up to the awful situation surrounding us.

The First Presidency should be arrested?

That is what you’ve been getting at?

Okay. I had no idea that I was dealing with talking to you. Now I see.

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AstonishingGrunt wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:43 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:17 pm
Chip wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 5:30 pm Why are you guys still carrying on with the troll? Just don't play his game. It's all BS.

I was reported to the moderator for asking people about tithing.

Yet I had been asked about everything from devil worship to rape.

What exactly is going on here?

You can go back through and read my posts. They are respectful.
Pretty much had the same experience in this very thread. Got reported for...something...and got labelled and called names pretty much from the outset. Welcome to the club.
Lol you've the VAST majority the world to echo in your chamber....why come to the fringe with the loons ?

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Gadianton Slayer wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:52 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:51 pm
Gadianton Slayer wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:50 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:46 pm You are basically accusing them of murder.
Among other things. You've chosen a rather mild thread.
So you are accusing them of murder? Oh my. What else?
As did Christ, Moroni, and Isaiah. I'm on good ground.
Christ accused the First Presidency of murder?

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nightlight wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:53 pm
AstonishingGrunt wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:43 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:17 pm
Chip wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 5:30 pm Why are you guys still carrying on with the troll? Just don't play his game. It's all BS.

I was reported to the moderator for asking people about tithing.

Yet I had been asked about everything from devil worship to rape.

What exactly is going on here?

You can go back through and read my posts. They are respectful.
Pretty much had the same experience in this very thread. Got reported for...something...and got labelled and called names pretty much from the outset. Welcome to the club.
Lol you've the VAST majority the world to echo in your chamber....why come to the fringe with the loons ?
I don’t know. I didn’t know what I was getting into.

The world is so big that it doesn’t echo. Only little places like this do.

But I had no idea that this was the prevailing sentiment.

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A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:53 pm
TrueFaith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:50 pm
A Global Faith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:46 pm
TrueFaith wrote: August 23rd, 2021, 6:42 pm

Yes, I've used strong words because you've supported strong actions. You are causing pain by supporting and pushing a vaccine which is killing thousands around the world and hurting others in unimaginable ways. I have held back the words I'd like to say.

But they are words only. Speech.

People here want to be left alone on this issue. Please let us choose in peace.

You are a drama queen.

All I have done is written a few things in support of our church leaders, state governments, federal government and top researchers around the world.

I understand that not everyone agrees.

But look around. Our First Presidency has recommended this. You are basically accusing them of murder.

It’s just drama drama drama with you.
They are supporting murder. They should be arrested for what they have done. I want to know how much money they are making off this scam.

People are losing their lives and livelihood all around the world. Do you seriously only watch CNN, do you know the government in Australia abducted thousands of children to force vaccinate them? They're killing dogs in cold blood. They're locking people up for walking outside.

This isn't drama. This is real. People are literally being rounded up and put in camps for possible covid infection. This tyranny is as bad as anything that ever happened under Communist regimes.

Wake up to the awful situation surrounding us.

The First Presidency should be arrested?

That is what you’ve been getting at?

Okay. I had no idea that I was dealing with talking to you. Now I see.
Absolutely arrested. They have a responsibility in this crime. This is the greatest hoax in world history. It has caused the greatest worldwide loss of human freedom ever.

We locked up British leadership for less than this. Captain Moroni did far worse to Nephite leaders taking freedom from the Nephite people. Alma 51. Read it.

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