Condemnation due to neglecting a major theme of Book of Mormon: Secret Combinations?

For discussion of secret combinations (political, economic, spiritual, religious, etc.) (Ether 8:18-25.)
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15 Yea, he said unto them: As the Lord liveth, except ye repent of all your iniquities, and cry unto the Lord, ye will in no wise be delivered out of the hands of those Gadianton robbers.

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lundbaek wrote: July 26th, 2021, 10:52 am "But a very important thing Pres. Benson did in echoing Moroni (Ether 8:22-26) who was talking about a single secret combination (give Ether 8: 24-25 a close read), was to also essentially testify that it was a single secret combination that was "seek[ing] to overthrow the freedom of all lands, nations, and countries [and] is increasing its evil influence and control over America and the entire world.""
I believe that particular secret combination is the new world order conspiracy. As it applies to the United States today, we have been beset for over 100 years with a carefully and methodically executed conspiracy intent on completely destroying the constitutional government given Americans and saddling the United States with a centralized socialist government and making our nation subservient to a single, world government, a.k.a. the New World Order. We are now living thru a series of actions by certain people of wealth and power, guided by Satan, with the ultimate goal of establishing a single world dictatorship in control of all the world's resources: human, natural, industrial, agricultural, economic, and any others I haven't thought of yet.

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larsenb wrote: July 26th, 2021, 11:37 am And regarding the eugenics/trans-human movement coupled with the COVID fraud, I see the potential of greatly ramping up the "evil influence and control over America and the entire world" of this secret combination (i.e., imposing its tyranny over us), by means of having it ride in on a medical horse, as absolutely cunning and even brilliant.

The catch phrase would be: "tyranny riding in on a medical horse (i.e., the COVID fiasco and resulting 'vaccines') ".
For anyone reading this thread who does not belong to the LDSFF poster 'bubble', you should know that many or even most of this group believe they/we have waked up to our awful situation because of the single, high-level secret combination among us and the works we see they are doing, as per Ether 8:24.

Regarding my remark, above, about "the COVID fiasco/fraud and resulting dangerous 'vaccines', I'm going to post information from highly trained professionals who agree with this assessment . . . for those who aren't aware of this type of information, or need clear expositions of the problems they pose.

You’ve got to understand, however, that the degree of censorship and vilification of this group of professionals is unprecedented. This alone should greatly alarm any reasonable, freedom-loving individual. And if you have not heard of this information, it is precisely because of this across-the-board censorship.

First, are two video presentations from Dr. Michael Yeadon, a former VP and Science Officer at Pfizer, etc. The first is the best I’ve seen from him, being interviewed by Del BigTree of the HighWire, though not posted there yet. In this video, he covers the scientific problems of the COVID-19 narrative, testing procedures and statistics, but especially the deficiencies of the vaccines, as experimental medical technology, noting that they violate the Nuremberg Code/Protocols covering research ethics and principles dealing with human medical experimentation.

Near the end, he notes the absolute dangers and implications of forced vaccine passports and booster shots, noting that once these are implemented, we have basically submitted to a world-wide digital database that could potentially control everything we do, as well as doing us great physical harm and even death via forced vaccines and boosters. And because of the simultaneous, coordinated efforts we see and saw across the world in purveying the COVID-19 narrative and forced lock-downs, masking, close of businesses and churches, and the incredble push for universal vaccination using an experimental technology, he strongly believes the only logical explanation for this, is a behind-the-scenes group pushing it . . . a secret combination, as it were. Sound familiar?

Here is the link to his first video interview: IN HARM'S WAY. THE EPIC DEL BIGTREE INTERVIEW. About 1 hr 38 min long at: https://rumble.com/vk8ykk-dr-michael-ye ... rview.html Well worth the watch for those seeking the truth.

Another video produced by Dr. Yeadon, also very good: https://rumble.com/vg4inv-michael-yeado ... kdown.html

See an image of his credentials, below.

Next, is a presentation by Dr. Peter McCullough, a cardiologist and professor of medicine; currently Vice Chief of Internal Medicine at Baylor University Medical Center in Dallas, Texas and Senior Professor of Internal Medicine at the Texas A&M University Health Sciences.

He emphasizes how logical non-evasive sequential multi-drug therapeutics (e.g., Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine [plus supplemental substances], prednisone, etc.) as well as the use of monoclinal antibodies, would have prevented almost all deaths incurred by SARS-CoV-2 and/or greatly reduced time in hospital.

The best interview I’ve seen of of him was by a Brit named Dan Aston Gregory, but both his YouTube video and a subsequent podcast from his web site have been scrubbed.

Here’s a recent interview (21 Jul 21) of Dr. McCullough by Stew Peters, here: Dr. Peter McCullough - URGENT WARNING About Poisonous Jabs - "An Agonizing Situation" at: https://rumble.com/vk5jd0-dr.-peter-mcc ... situa.html . Frightening stuff, readers.

Another interview of Dr. Peter McCullough by Dr. Reiner Fuellmich, here: https://www.bitchute.com/video/rKP61hruGxIt/ And there are others you can find on the internet. Just checking, this video has been scrubbed. Typical.

Dr. Charles Hoffe, M.D., a medical practitioner in British Columbia, Canada, says he has discovered that at least 62% of his vaccinated patients exhibit microscopic blood clots as determined by the D-dimer test, that can lead to permanent damage to brain, spinal cord, heart and lungs tissue, which cannot be corrected. Here: https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-07-13- ... eople.html

Here is a presentation by Dr. Reiner Fuellmich, a doctor of law from Germany, who does an excellent review of the illegal tactics promulgated by those pushing the COVID-19 narrative and its ‘vaccines’: CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY at: https://www.bitchute.com/video/zarFW3hwuyBc/ , with emphasis on violations of the Nuremberg Code/Protocols, dealing w/forced experimental medical procedures.

Warning from Dr. Robert W. Malone, discoverer of in-vitro and in-vivo RNA transfection and the inventor of mRNA core platform technology while he was at the Salk Institute in 1988, about the bioethical violations surrounding vaccine deployment and adverse vaccine reportage, shown here: https://trialsitenews.com/bioethics-of- ... oing-down/, titled: Bioethics of Experimental COVID Vaccine Deployment under EUA: It’s time we stop and look at what’s going down.

His conclusions:
In conclusion, I hope that you will join me; stop to take a moment and consider for yourself what is going on. The logic seems clear to me. 1) An unlicensed medical product deployed under emergency use authorization (EUA) remains an experimental product under clinical research development. 2) EUA authorized by national authorities basically grants a short-term right to administer the research product to human subjects without written informed consent. 3) The Geneva Convention, the Helsinki declaration, and the entire structure which supports ethical human subjects research requires that research subjects be fully informed of risks and must consent to participation without coercion. Has that bright line been crossed? If so, what actions are to be taken? I look forward to learning from your thoughts and conclusions.
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larsenb wrote: July 28th, 2021, 11:18 pm
larsenb wrote: July 26th, 2021, 11:37 am And regarding the eugenics/trans-human movement coupled with the COVID fraud, I see the potential of greatly ramping up the "evil influence and control over America and the entire world" of this secret combination (i.e., imposing its tyranny over us), by means of having it ride in on a medical horse, as absolutely cunning and even brilliant.

The catch phrase would be: "tyranny riding in on a medical horse (i.e., the COVID fiasco and resulting 'vaccines') ".
For anyone reading this thread who does not belong to the LDSFF poster 'bubble', you should know that many or even most of this group believe they/we have waked up to our awful situation because of the single, high-level secret combination among us and the works we see they are doing, as per Ether 8:24.

Regarding my remark, above, about "the COVID fiasco/fraud and resulting dangerous 'vaccines', I'm going to post information from highly trained professionals who agree with this assessment . . . for those who aren't aware of this type of information, or need clear expositions of the problems they pose.

You’ve got to understand, however, that the degree of censorship and vilification of this group of professionals is unprecedented. This alone should greatly alarm any reasonable, freedom-loving individual. And if you have not heard of this information, it is precisely because of this across-the-board censorship.

First, are two video presentations from Dr. Michael Yeadon, a former VP and Science Officer at Pfizer, etc. The first is the best I’ve seen from him, being interviewed by Del BigTree of the HighWire, though not posted there yet. In this video, he covers the scientific problems of the COVID-19 narrative, testing procedures and statistics, but especially the deficiencies of the vaccines, as experimental medical technology, noting that they violate the Nuremberg Code/Protocols covering research ethics and principles dealing with human medical experimentation.

Near the end, he notes the absolute dangers and implications of forced vaccine passports and booster shots, noting that once these are implemented, we have basically submitted to a world-wide digital database that could potentially control everything we do, as well as doing us great physical harm and even death via forced vaccines and boosters. And because of the simultaneous, coordinated efforts we see and saw across the world in purveying the COVID-19 narrative and forced lock-downs, masking, close of businesses and churches, and the incredble push for universal vaccination using an experimental technology, he strongly believes the only logical explanation for this, is a behind-the-scenes group pushing it . . . a secret combination, as it were. Sound familiar?

Here is the link to his first video interview: IN HARM'S WAY. THE EPIC DEL BIGTREE INTERVIEW. About 1 hr 38 min long at: https://rumble.com/vk8ykk-dr-michael-ye ... rview.html Well worth the watch for those seeking the truth.

Another video produced by Dr. Yeadon, also very good: https://rumble.com/vg4inv-michael-yeado ... kdown.html

See an image of his credentials, below.

Next, is a presentation by Dr. Peter McCullough, a cardiologist and professor of medicine; currently Vice Chief of Internal Medicine at Baylor University Medical Center in Dallas, Texas and Senior Professor of Internal Medicine at the Texas A&M University Health Sciences.

He emphasizes how logical non-evasive sequential multi-drug therapeutics (e.g., Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine [plus supplemental substances], prednisone, etc.) as well as the use of monoclinal antibodies, would have prevented almost all deaths incurred by SARS-CoV-2 and/or greatly reduced time in hospital.

The best interview I’ve seen of of him was by a Brit named Dan Aston Gregory, but both his YouTube video and a subsequent podcast from his web site have been scrubbed.

Here’s a recent interview (21 Jul 21) of Dr. McCullough by Stew Peters, here: Dr. Peter McCullough - URGENT WARNING About Poisonous Jabs - "An Agonizing Situation" at: https://rumble.com/vk5jd0-dr.-peter-mcc ... situa.html . Frightening stuff, readers.

Another interview of Dr. Peter McCullough by Dr. Reiner Fuellmich, here: https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/vi ... e-11-2021/ And there are others you can find on the internet. Just checking, this video has been scrubbed. Typical.

Dr. Charles Hoffe, M.D., a medical practitioner in British Columbia, Canada, says he has discovered that at least 62% of his vaccinated patients exhibit microscopic blood clots as determined by the D-dimer test, that can lead to permanent damage to brain, spinal cord, heart and lungs tissue, which cannot be corrected. Here: https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-07-13- ... eople.html

Here is a presentation by Dr. Reiner Fuellmich, a doctor of law from Germany, who does an excellent review of the illegal tactics promulgated by those pushing the COVID-19 narrative and its ‘vaccines’: CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY at: https://www.bitchute.com/video/zarFW3hwuyBc/ , with emphasis on violations of the Nuremberg Code/Protocols, dealing w/forced experimental medical procedures.

And there is much, much more.



It's ok.

We don't have to listen to any of that. And according to Elder Bednar, we shouldn't.




“Misinformation is a major obstacle in a health crisis. Faith communities can debunk rumors, calm fears, and facilitate accurate information,” Elder Bednar said. “Many will be fearful of vaccines. Religious leaders can be helpful in the fight against the coronavirus.”
https://www.deseret.com/faith/2020/10/1 ... udi-arabia




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InfoWarrior82 wrote: July 29th, 2021, 8:22 am
larsenb wrote: July 28th, 2021, 11:18 pm
larsenb wrote: July 26th, 2021, 11:37 am And regarding the eugenics/trans-human movement coupled with the COVID fraud, I see the potential of greatly ramping up the "evil influence and control over America and the entire world" of this secret combination (i.e., imposing its tyranny over us), by means of having it ride in on a medical horse, as absolutely cunning and even brilliant.

The catch phrase would be: "tyranny riding in on a medical horse (i.e., the COVID fiasco and resulting 'vaccines') ".
For anyone reading this thread who does not belong to the LDSFF poster 'bubble', you should know that many or even most of this group believe they/we have waked up to our awful situation because of the single, high-level secret combination among us and the works we see they are doing, as per Ether 8:24.

Regarding my remark, above, about "the COVID fiasco/fraud and resulting dangerous 'vaccines', I'm going to post information from highly trained professionals who agree with this assessment . . . for those who aren't aware of this type of information, or need clear expositions of the problems they pose.

You’ve got to understand, however, that the degree of censorship and vilification of this group of professionals is unprecedented. This alone should greatly alarm any reasonable, freedom-loving individual. And if you have not heard of this information, it is precisely because of this across-the-board censorship.

First, are two video presentations from Dr. Michael Yeadon, a former VP and Science Officer at Pfizer, etc. The first is the best I’ve seen from him, being interviewed by Del BigTree of the HighWire, though not posted there yet. In this video, he covers the scientific problems of the COVID-19 narrative, testing procedures and statistics, but especially the deficiencies of the vaccines, as experimental medical technology, noting that they violate the Nuremberg Code/Protocols covering research ethics and principles dealing with human medical experimentation.

Near the end, he notes the absolute dangers and implications of forced vaccine passports and booster shots, noting that once these are implemented, we have basically submitted to a world-wide digital database that could potentially control everything we do, as well as doing us great physical harm and even death via forced vaccines and boosters. And because of the simultaneous, coordinated efforts we see and saw across the world in purveying the COVID-19 narrative and forced lock-downs, masking, close of businesses and churches, and the incredble push for universal vaccination using an experimental technology, he strongly believes the only logical explanation for this, is a behind-the-scenes group pushing it . . . a secret combination, as it were. Sound familiar?

Here is the link to his first video interview: IN HARM'S WAY. THE EPIC DEL BIGTREE INTERVIEW. About 1 hr 38 min long at: https://rumble.com/vk8ykk-dr-michael-ye ... rview.html Well worth the watch for those seeking the truth.

Another video produced by Dr. Yeadon, also very good: https://rumble.com/vg4inv-michael-yeado ... kdown.html

See an image of his credentials, below.

Next, is a presentation by Dr. Peter McCullough, a cardiologist and professor of medicine; currently Vice Chief of Internal Medicine at Baylor University Medical Center in Dallas, Texas and Senior Professor of Internal Medicine at the Texas A&M University Health Sciences.

He emphasizes how logical non-evasive sequential multi-drug therapeutics (e.g., Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine [plus supplemental substances], prednisone, etc.) as well as the use of monoclinal antibodies, would have prevented almost all deaths incurred by SARS-CoV-2 and/or greatly reduced time in hospital.

The best interview I’ve seen of of him was by a Brit named Dan Aston Gregory, but both his YouTube video and a subsequent podcast from his web site have been scrubbed.

Here’s a recent interview (21 Jul 21) of Dr. McCullough by Stew Peters, here: Dr. Peter McCullough - URGENT WARNING About Poisonous Jabs - "An Agonizing Situation" at: https://rumble.com/vk5jd0-dr.-peter-mcc ... situa.html . Frightening stuff, readers.

Another interview of Dr. Peter McCullough by Dr. Reiner Fuellmich, here: https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/vi ... e-11-2021/ And there are others you can find on the internet. Just checking, this video has been scrubbed. Typical.

Dr. Charles Hoffe, M.D., a medical practitioner in British Columbia, Canada, says he has discovered that at least 62% of his vaccinated patients exhibit microscopic blood clots as determined by the D-dimer test, that can lead to permanent damage to brain, spinal cord, heart and lungs tissue, which cannot be corrected. Here: https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-07-13- ... eople.html

Here is a presentation by Dr. Reiner Fuellmich, a doctor of law from Germany, who does an excellent review of the illegal tactics promulgated by those pushing the COVID-19 narrative and its ‘vaccines’: CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY at: https://www.bitchute.com/video/zarFW3hwuyBc/ , with emphasis on violations of the Nuremberg Code/Protocols, dealing w/forced experimental medical procedures.

And there is much, much more.



It's ok.

We don't have to listen to any of that. And according to Elder Bednar, we shouldn't.




“Misinformation is a major obstacle in a health crisis. Faith communities can debunk rumors, calm fears, and facilitate accurate information,” Elder Bednar said. “Many will be fearful of vaccines. Religious leaders can be helpful in the fight against the coronavirus.”
https://www.deseret.com/faith/2020/10/1 ... udi-arabia




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He should have stuck to his arguments that the COVID fiasco and its restrictions could have a very negative impact on religious freedom.

However your quote from him above, is exactly why I opened this thread. With the Tribune article on LDSFF, I would think a lot of 'higher-up' LDS, etc., may have taken notice of this lowly board and think it would be a good place to monitor fringe, freedom-loving people such as ourselves.

This was my audience. They have a chance to see what we think about their ignore-ance of a major Book of Mormon theme: secret combinations. They have a chance to get an alternative view of what we think and feel about 'the Godsend" and the surrounding COVID-19 fiasco . . . a view they seem to be totally unaware of, except in the pejorative; i.e., not by direct experience w/ the experts we are using, but by how these experts are maligned by the MSM-type of information/news sources they seem to be stuck on.

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larsenb wrote: July 29th, 2021, 2:18 pm
InfoWarrior82 wrote: July 29th, 2021, 8:22 am
larsenb wrote: July 28th, 2021, 11:18 pm
larsenb wrote: July 26th, 2021, 11:37 am And regarding the eugenics/trans-human movement coupled with the COVID fraud, I see the potential of greatly ramping up the "evil influence and control over America and the entire world" of this secret combination (i.e., imposing its tyranny over us), by means of having it ride in on a medical horse, as absolutely cunning and even brilliant.

The catch phrase would be: "tyranny riding in on a medical horse (i.e., the COVID fiasco and resulting 'vaccines') ".
For anyone reading this thread who does not belong to the LDSFF poster 'bubble', you should know that many or even most of this group believe they/we have waked up to our awful situation because of the single, high-level secret combination among us and the works we see they are doing, as per Ether 8:24.

Regarding my remark, above, about "the COVID fiasco/fraud and resulting dangerous 'vaccines', I'm going to post information from highly trained professionals who agree with this assessment . . . for those who aren't aware of this type of information, or need clear expositions of the problems they pose.

You’ve got to understand, however, that the degree of censorship and vilification of this group of professionals is unprecedented. This alone should greatly alarm any reasonable, freedom-loving individual. And if you have not heard of this information, it is precisely because of this across-the-board censorship.

First, are two video presentations from Dr. Michael Yeadon, a former VP and Science Officer at Pfizer, etc. The first is the best I’ve seen from him, being interviewed by Del BigTree of the HighWire, though not posted there yet. In this video, he covers the scientific problems of the COVID-19 narrative, testing procedures and statistics, but especially the deficiencies of the vaccines, as experimental medical technology, noting that they violate the Nuremberg Code/Protocols covering research ethics and principles dealing with human medical experimentation.

Near the end, he notes the absolute dangers and implications of forced vaccine passports and booster shots, noting that once these are implemented, we have basically submitted to a world-wide digital database that could potentially control everything we do, as well as doing us great physical harm and even death via forced vaccines and boosters. And because of the simultaneous, coordinated efforts we see and saw across the world in purveying the COVID-19 narrative and forced lock-downs, masking, close of businesses and churches, and the incredble push for universal vaccination using an experimental technology, he strongly believes the only logical explanation for this, is a behind-the-scenes group pushing it . . . a secret combination, as it were. Sound familiar?

Here is the link to his first video interview: IN HARM'S WAY. THE EPIC DEL BIGTREE INTERVIEW. About 1 hr 38 min long at: https://rumble.com/vk8ykk-dr-michael-ye ... rview.html Well worth the watch for those seeking the truth.

Another video produced by Dr. Yeadon, also very good: https://rumble.com/vg4inv-michael-yeado ... kdown.html

See an image of his credentials, below.

Next, is a presentation by Dr. Peter McCullough, a cardiologist and professor of medicine; currently Vice Chief of Internal Medicine at Baylor University Medical Center in Dallas, Texas and Senior Professor of Internal Medicine at the Texas A&M University Health Sciences.

He emphasizes how logical non-evasive sequential multi-drug therapeutics (e.g., Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine [plus supplemental substances], prednisone, etc.) as well as the use of monoclinal antibodies, would have prevented almost all deaths incurred by SARS-CoV-2 and/or greatly reduced time in hospital.

The best interview I’ve seen of of him was by a Brit named Dan Aston Gregory, but both his YouTube video and a subsequent podcast from his web site have been scrubbed.

Here’s a recent interview (21 Jul 21) of Dr. McCullough by Stew Peters, here: Dr. Peter McCullough - URGENT WARNING About Poisonous Jabs - "An Agonizing Situation" at: https://rumble.com/vk5jd0-dr.-peter-mcc ... situa.html . Frightening stuff, readers.

Another interview of Dr. Peter McCullough by Dr. Reiner Fuellmich, here: https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/vi ... e-11-2021/ And there are others you can find on the internet. Just checking, this video has been scrubbed. Typical.

Dr. Charles Hoffe, M.D., a medical practitioner in British Columbia, Canada, says he has discovered that at least 62% of his vaccinated patients exhibit microscopic blood clots as determined by the D-dimer test, that can lead to permanent damage to brain, spinal cord, heart and lungs tissue, which cannot be corrected. Here: https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-07-13- ... eople.html

Here is a presentation by Dr. Reiner Fuellmich, a doctor of law from Germany, who does an excellent review of the illegal tactics promulgated by those pushing the COVID-19 narrative and its ‘vaccines’: CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY at: https://www.bitchute.com/video/zarFW3hwuyBc/ , with emphasis on violations of the Nuremberg Code/Protocols, dealing w/forced experimental medical procedures.

And there is much, much more.



It's ok.

We don't have to listen to any of that. And according to Elder Bednar, we shouldn't.




“Misinformation is a major obstacle in a health crisis. Faith communities can debunk rumors, calm fears, and facilitate accurate information,” Elder Bednar said. “Many will be fearful of vaccines. Religious leaders can be helpful in the fight against the coronavirus.”
https://www.deseret.com/faith/2020/10/1 ... udi-arabia




Divine revelation has been severed.



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He should have stuck to his arguments that the COVID fiasco and its restrictions could have a very negative impact on religious freedom.

However your quote from him above, is exactly why I opened this thread. With the Tribune article on LDSFF, I would think a lot of 'higher-up' LDS, etc., may have taken notice of this lowly board and think it would be a good place to monitor fringe, freedom-loving people such as ourselves.

This was my audience. They have a chance to see what we think about their ignore-ance of a major Book of Mormon theme: secret combinations. They have a chance to get an alternative view of what we think and feel about 'the Godsend" and the surrounding COVID-19 fiasco . . . a view they seem to be totally unaware of, except in the pejorative; i.e., not by direct experience w/ the experts we are using, but by how these experts are maligned by the MSM-type of information/news sources they seem to be stuck on.

Elder Bednar on freedom:
“No doubt an emergency on the scale of COVID-19 justifies strong measures to protect the public, but we cannot lose sight of the fact that many of these measures are extraordinary assertions of government power that can dramatically constrain our basic freedoms,” he said. “The power of government must have limits.”

He should run for office. Spoken like a true politician. In a single sentence, he said essentially nothing. All parties are appeased and left feeling like they heard what they wanted to hear. He said literally nothing on what those limits should be or if they were ever crossed.



About the Q15 reading this site.... I don't know what to tell you. I can say quite confidently that they don't stray from CNN, MSNBC, Faux, and the other MSM outlets for their propaganda fix.

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InfoWarrior82 wrote: July 29th, 2021, 3:10 pm . . . . . About the Q15 reading this site.... I don't know what to tell you. I can say quite confidently that they don't stray from CNN, MSNBC, Faux, and the other MSM outlets for their propaganda fix.
Well, whether any of the Q15 would visit the site is problematic. But its probably a dead certainty that the Trib article put LDSFF on the radar of many more people, to include some in Church management, or people that may have the ear of the Q15 and of some in the other quorums.

My fantasy, which I've expressed in an earlier post here: viewtopic.php?p=1158095#p1158095 , was to picture the Q12 sitting at their circular table, all watching the pentagram-arranged screens displaying an LDSFF thread, and discussing its content.

I was surprised it got no comment or thumbs up, thinking it was a clever proposition 8-)

But maybe you're right. The screens may just be XFINITY-connected TV screens, and they are discussing the commentary coming from a CNN fake-news presenter, such as Brian Stelter.

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larsenb wrote: July 29th, 2021, 4:10 pm
InfoWarrior82 wrote: July 29th, 2021, 3:10 pm . . . . . About the Q15 reading this site.... I don't know what to tell you. I can say quite confidently that they don't stray from CNN, MSNBC, Faux, and the other MSM outlets for their propaganda fix.
Well, whether any of the Q15 would visit the site is problematic. But its probably a dead certainty that the Trib article put LDSFF on the radar of many more people, to include some in Church management, or people that may have the ear of the Q15 and of some in the other quorums.

My fantasy, which I've expressed in an earlier post here: viewtopic.php?p=1158095#p1158095 , was to picture the Q12 sitting at their circular table, all watching the pentagram-arranged screens displaying an LDSFF thread, and discussing its content.

I was surprised it got no comment or thumbs up, thinking it was a clever proposition 8-)

But maybe you're right. The screens may just be XFINITY-connected TV screens, and they are discussing the commentary coming from a CNN fake-news presenter, such as Brian Stelter.

The Trib article may have been brought up to a few of them, or perhaps they read the article itself but of course they would never dare to venture to a website that may have the remote possibility of being "anti". Just the thought of it is like hard liquor to these men. It will never touch their lips. Especially because of the slant the writer used to portray the comments made here.

I really don't think these men put together any content to be presented by themselves. They have assistants who work for them gather content from "trusted" sources. Not to do so would violate their own handbook policy to ignore any "baseless conspiracy theories".

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InfoWarrior82 wrote: July 29th, 2021, 4:22 pm
larsenb wrote: July 29th, 2021, 4:10 pm
InfoWarrior82 wrote: July 29th, 2021, 3:10 pm . . . . . About the Q15 reading this site.... I don't know what to tell you. I can say quite confidently that they don't stray from CNN, MSNBC, Faux, and the other MSM outlets for their propaganda fix.
Well, whether any of the Q15 would visit the site is problematic. But its probably a dead certainty that the Trib article put LDSFF on the radar of many more people, to include some in Church management, or people that may have the ear of the Q15 and of some in the other quorums.

My fantasy, which I've expressed in an earlier post here: viewtopic.php?p=1158095#p1158095 , was to picture the Q12 sitting at their circular table, all watching the pentagram-arranged screens displaying an LDSFF thread, and discussing its content.

I was surprised it got no comment or thumbs up, thinking it was a clever proposition 8-)

But maybe you're right. The screens may just be XFINITY-connected TV screens, and they are discussing the commentary coming from a CNN fake-news presenter, such as Brian Stelter.

The Trib article may have been brought up to a few of them, or perhaps they read the article itself but of course they would never dare to venture to a website that may have the remote possibility of being "anti". Just the thought of it is like hard liquor to these men. It will never touch their lips. Especially because of the slant the writer used to portray the comments made here.

I really don't think these men put together any content to be presented by themselves. They have assistants who work for them gather content from "trusted" sources. Not to do so would violate their own handbook policy to ignore any "baseless conspiracy theories".
You could very well be right. But one can only hope. Unless someone like you and I and many others here, is a close relative to one/some of the Brethren, not much chance of them getting direct info about these topics unless they are motivated to seek them out . . . . for one reason or another, maybe even the Spirit.

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Alexander wrote: July 27th, 2021, 9:51 pm 3 Nephi 3
15 Yea, he said unto them: As the Lord liveth, except ye repent of all your iniquities, and cry unto the Lord, ye will in no wise be delivered out of the hands of those Gadianton robbers.
If that's not a message for our time and our people, I don't know what is.

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Bump. It's Sunday.

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The extreme irony of LDS ignor-ance of the Secret Combination topic, is that this is happening in a day when thousands are waking up to their reality. Secret Combination agendas are being thrown into our face, and many of the perps are uncloaking. A situation that is causing even millions to start waking up to their reality.

Blogs and platforms covering these issues are springing up all over the internet/blogosphere like mushrooms in a hot house and among an incredibly diverse group of people both in this country and abroad..

Yet most LDS, on up the chain, seem strangely, strangely oblivious to any of this. And this in the face of our having very clear warnings about such things from our own Moroni, and in the face of having THE primer on the subject and danger of high-level secret combinations, the Book of Mormon.

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Here is an interview of Nichole Kidman, regarding what she learned from Stanley Kubrik, during her association with him in making his movie: Eyes Wide Shut (no, I'm not recommending the move) taken from: http://themillenniumreport.com/2017/07/ ... the-world/. The gist of his comments was that the world is run by a group of people who are deeply into pedophilia.

Extract:
“Stanley told me the world is run by pedophiles,” Nicole Kidman said while promoting HBO’s Big Little Lies, in Los Angeles. “He studied secret societies his whole life, he was fascinated by them, and he said the elite, the top secret societies, they are full of men with a certain predilection. They are tied together, sort of bonded, by pedophilia.

“They all know each other’s dark secrets. There is no way out for any of them. It’s a lifetime bond. Even if one of them wanted to go straight, repent, so to speak, he can’t. His peers will bring him down. They are in it until death, driving the world to ruin. That’s kind of how Stanley explained it but it was all very complex. I’m probably not doing it justice.” . . . . . .

Asked if Kubrick’s knowledge of secret societies and their darkest secrets had anything to do with his death, Kidman raised an eyebrow and said “That’s not a question I can answer here.”

“Though maybe I could. None of you in the media would be allowed to print it, would you? The men who own your companies wouldn’t allow it to get out,” Kidman said.

"“Stanley’s next film was going to be about psychopathic pedophiles. He said he was going deeper down the rabbit hole.”

Kubrick was a lifelong student of power structures, with many of his films exhibiting a closely-observed genius for exposing the corruption, depravity and madness of elite institutions.

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larsenb wrote: August 5th, 2021, 10:59 am Here is an interview of Nichole Kidman, regarding what she learned from Stanley Kubrik, during her association with him in making his movie: Eyes Wide Shut (no, I'm not recommending the move) taken from: http://themillenniumreport.com/2017/07/ ... the-world/. The gist of his comments was that the world is run by a group of people who are deeply into pedophilia.

Extract:
“Stanley told me the world is run by pedophiles,” Nicole Kidman said while promoting HBO’s Big Little Lies, in Los Angeles. “He studied secret societies his whole life, he was fascinated by them, and he said the elite, the top secret societies, they are full of men with a certain predilection. They are tied together, sort of bonded, by pedophilia.

“They all know each other’s dark secrets. There is no way out for any of them. It’s a lifetime bond. Even if one of them wanted to go straight, repent, so to speak, he can’t. His peers will bring him down. They are in it until death, driving the world to ruin. That’s kind of how Stanley explained it but it was all very complex. I’m probably not doing it justice.” . . . . . .

Asked if Kubrick’s knowledge of secret societies and their darkest secrets had anything to do with his death, Kidman raised an eyebrow and said “That’s not a question I can answer here.”

“Though maybe I could. None of you in the media would be allowed to print it, would you? The men who own your companies wouldn’t allow it to get out,” Kidman said.

"“Stanley’s next film was going to be about psychopathic pedophiles. He said he was going deeper down the rabbit hole.”

Kubrick was a lifelong student of power structures, with many of his films exhibiting a closely-observed genius for exposing the corruption, depravity and madness of elite institutions.
Just curious, but do you believe the secret oaths of the Gadianton robbers and in the Book of Ether involved pedophilia? If these oaths have been passed from Satan to men seeking power from the beginning, it would seem consistent.

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Tbone wrote: August 5th, 2021, 11:04 am . . . . Just curious, but do you believe the secret oaths of the Gadianton robbers and in the Book of Ether involved pedophilia? If these oaths have been passed from Satan to men seeking power from the beginning, it would seem consistent.
Could be. But I have no idea. Interesting proposition.

Many people have chimed in though, about the prevalence of pedophilia among our elites. Kubrik/Kidman aren't the only ones.

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One of (if not the most) prominent LDS figure in the spotlight is Mitt Romney. Unfortunately most LDS haven't awoke to the fact he is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

Defending Utah has a great post about this:
https://www.defendingutah.org/post/2020 ... societies/

The blinders are definitely on!

Edit - I forgot to add - If there is one, there are bound to be more, you can't have a secret "society" being alone.

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Lymelost wrote: August 5th, 2021, 12:09 pm One of (if not the most) prominent LDS figure in the spotlight is Mitt Romney. Unfortunately most LDS haven't awoke to the fact he is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

Defending Utah has a great post about this:
https://www.defendingutah.org/post/2020 ... societies/

The blinders are definitely on!

Edit - I forgot to add - If there is one, there are bound to be more, you can't have a secret "society" being alone.
Here is better info on the 'club': https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfalfa_Club . The Defending Utah document is clearly a tongue-in-cheek satire.

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I'm re-posting something I posted on this thread: viewtopic.php?p=1165281#p1165281

ATB wrote: "Excellent 30 minute use of you time (SA interviewer has many excellent interviews with folks on the front lines):
https://jermwarfare.com/blog/thomas-renz-vaccines-vaers "

Just had to say, this guy (Thomas Renz) is incredible. I only wish I could get my file leaders to watch it. He defines the whole situation even to include how it is a battle between tyranny and freedom, good and evil, etc. I.e., he has waked up to a sense of our awful situation.

When in heavens name, are our dear leaders going to wake up to this situation? For crying out loud, we have the premier primer on those who propel us into these awful situations. And we have been emphatically warned about them in our day (Benson '88; Moroni, ~421 AD)

The agendas of these 'secret' combinations are so evident and blatant now-a-days, that thousands and even millions all over the world are waking up to these agendas and those perpetrating them. Almost inummerable web sites and blogs are popping up to monitor these groups and their awful agendas.

Yet we LDS generally remain largely silent about the whole subject, showing no awareness of them. Instead, we seem to have fallen for some of their awful agendas. This situation alone, is a great and added burden for those who have waked up about this reality.

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What can we as individuals do to help awaken other Latter-day Saints to "this secret combination which shall be among you" that Moroni warned us about? For openers, one can ask God in prayer what he/she can do to help awaken other Latter-day Saints to "this secret combination which shall be among you" that Moroni warned us about.

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Bumping this. I'm going to add some more info a bit later.

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Finally a thread that gets to the heart of the problem. Thank you so much for the added information, although I have kept up on most of it there were some new parts to add to the puzzle. Thinking about our awful situation brings Helaman 6:38 to mind as the Neophytes were in the same awful situation and didn’t realize it.


38 And it came to pass on the other hand, that the Nephites did build them up and support them, beginning at the more wicked part of them, until they had overspread all the land of the Nephites, and had seduced the more part of the righteous until they had come down to believe in their works and partake of their spoils, and to join with them in their secret murders and combinations.


The line, “ … and had seduced the more part of the righteous until they had come down to believe in their works and partake of their spoils, and to join with them in their secret murders and combinations” Is very unnerving when you think about those we know who donated and participated in our most recent election and the fraud that was perpetrated upon us.

Once awaken, how can we awaken others as so many “believe in their works and partake of their spoils”…? And so many are under the spell of msm? The only answer I know is to work like crazy to wake others and then prayer twice as hard for help from above.

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"Once awaken, how can we awaken others..."?

One can ask God in prayer what he/she can do to help awaken other Latter-day Saints to "this secret combination which shall be among you" that Moroni warned us about.

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The dangers of group think. See viewtopic.php?f=1&t=62369&p=1173826#p1173826 for starters.

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Gadianton Slayer wrote: July 25th, 2021, 2:17 pm I think much more has been neglected than just secret combinations in the BoM.

It also speaks of pride, grinding the faces of the poor, building fine sanctuaries, teaches to obey a man only if his precepts are given by the HG, and condemns all churches in the last days.

Specifically the combinations... I don’t think it’s blinders. But I won’t elaborate much more on that here. “Covenant with the Devil” thread holds at least part of my opinion.
Oh there are tonnes of things in there... the Rameumpton, prophets coming from outside the mainstream tradition (Samuel the Lamanite etc), brother turning against brother, the notion that civilisations in the Americas have a tendency to collapse quickly (the Incas, Mayas and Aztecs being three prominent examples), and I believe even air pollution.

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Niemand wrote: August 30th, 2021, 6:55 pm
Gadianton Slayer wrote: July 25th, 2021, 2:17 pm I think much more has been neglected than just secret combinations in the BoM.

It also speaks of pride, grinding the faces of the poor, building fine sanctuaries, teaches to obey a man only if his precepts are given by the HG, and condemns all churches in the last days.

Specifically the combinations... I don’t think it’s blinders. But I won’t elaborate much more on that here. “Covenant with the Devil” thread holds at least part of my opinion.
Oh there are tonnes of things in there... the Rameumpton, prophets coming from outside the mainstream tradition (Samuel the Lamanite etc), brother turning against brother, the notion that civilisations in the Americas have a tendency to collapse quickly (the Incas, Mayas and Aztecs being three prominent examples), and I believe even air pollution.
And then there’s the doctrinal side of things... because the church has a few different anti-Christ teachings that directly contradict the BoM.

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