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Delta Covid variant Infects Fully Vaccinated Adults

Posted: June 28th, 2021, 2:31 pm
by BeNotDeceived
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Re: Delta Covid variant Infects Fully Vaccinated Adults

Posted: June 28th, 2021, 2:53 pm
by tribrac
Covid sucks.

Re: Delta Covid variant Infects Fully Vaccinated Adults

Posted: June 28th, 2021, 3:14 pm
by NewEliza
Of course it does. It probably also infects dolphins and pizzas and apples and everything else we hold dear.

Re: Delta Covid variant Infects Fully Vaccinated Adults

Posted: June 28th, 2021, 3:31 pm
by Cruiserdude
🙄Can't most of the 'scariants' of covid infect fully 'vaxxed' sheeple? .... This smells like good ol classic US media sensationalism at its best. God bless USA

Re: Delta Covid variant Infects Fully Vaccinated Adults

Posted: June 28th, 2021, 4:31 pm
by tribrac
The NIH website still has an article saying they hope that maybe the injections will providethe same level of protection that recovered covid patients have.

Well duh. If your "vaccine" doesnt actually prevent anyone from getting the disease rathwr it masks thwir syptoms so they don't get tested then eventually all "vaccinated" people will have had the diaease, acquired the natural immunity and the NIH goals will have been met.

Re: Delta Covid variant Infects Fully Vaccinated Adults

Posted: June 28th, 2021, 4:41 pm
by DavidWebb
tribrac wrote: ↑June 28th, 2021, 2:53 pmCovid sucks.
I'll take the disease over the cure...
Methods
We used a large Israeli field study [6] that involved approximately one million persons and the data reported therein to calculate the number needed to vaccinate (NNTV) to prevent one case of SARS-CoV2 infection and to prevent one death caused by COVID-19. In addition, we used the most prominent trial data from regulatory phase 3 trials to assess the NNTV [4,5,7]. The NNTV is the reciprocal of the absolute risk difference between risk in the treated group and in the control group, expressed as decimals. To give an artificial example: An absolute risk difference between a risk of 0.8 in the control group and a risk of 0.3 in the treated group would result in an absolute risk difference of 0.5; thus, the number needed to treat or the NNTV would be 1/0.5 = 2. This is the clinical effectiveness of the vaccine.

We checked the Adverse Drug Reaction (ADR) database of the European Medicine Agency (EMA: http://www.adrreports.eu/en/search_subst.html#, accessed on 28 May 2021; the COVID-19 vaccines are accessible under “C” in the index). Looking up the number of single cases with side effects reported for the three most widely used vaccines (Comirnaty by BioNTech/Pfizer, the vector vaccination product Vaxzevria marketed by AstraZeneca, and the mRNA vaccine by Moderna) by country, we discovered that the reporting of side effects varies by a factor of 47 (Figure 1). While the European average is 127 individual case safety reports (ICSRs), i.e., cases with side effect reports, per 100,000 vaccinations, the Dutch authorities have registered 701 reports per 100,000 vaccinations, while Poland has registered only 15 ISCRs per 100,000 vaccinations. Assuming that this difference is not due to differential national susceptibility to vaccination side effects, but due to different national reporting standards, we decided to use the data of the Dutch national register (https://www.lareb.nl/coronameldingen; accessed on 29 May 2021) to gauge the number of severe and fatal side effects per 100,000 vaccinations. We compare these quantities to the NNTV to prevent one clinical case of and one fatality by COVID-19.

Conclusions
The present assessment raises the question whether it would be necessary to rethink policies and use COVID-19 vaccines more sparingly and with some discretion only in those that are willing to accept the risk because they feel more at risk from the true infection than the mock infection. Perhaps it might be necessary to dampen the enthusiasm by sober facts? In our view, the EMA and national authorities should instigate a safety review into the safety database of COVID-19 vaccines and governments should carefully consider their policies in light of these data. Ideally, independent scientists should carry out thorough case reviews of the very severe cases, so that there can be evidence-based recommendations on who is likely to benefit from a SARS-CoV2 vaccination and who is in danger of suffering from side effects. Currently, our estimates show that we have to accept four fatal and 16 serious side effects per 100,000 vaccinations in order to save the lives of 2–11 individuals per 100,000 vaccinations, placing risks and benefits on the same order of magnitude.
https://www.mdpi.com/2076-393X/9/7/693/htm

...kill 4 to save 2...
The world’s richest medical research foundation, the Wellcome Trust, has teamed up with a pair of former DARPA directors who built Silicon Valley’s skunkworks to usher in an age of nightmarish surveillance, including for babies as young as three months old. Their agenda can only advance if we allow it.
https://unlimitedhangout.com/2021/06/in ... struction/

Fully Vaccinated

Posted: June 28th, 2021, 11:28 pm
by BeNotDeceived
Cruiserdude wrote: ↑June 28th, 2021, 3:31 pm 🙄Can't most of the 'scariants' of covid infect fully 'vaxxed' sheeple? .... This smells like good ol classic US media sensationalism at its best. God bless USA
I was just listening to the Buck Sexton Show and he mentioned the Delta Variant is expected to ravish the southern states, but failed to mention anything about "fully vaxxed people". Being vaxxed, or more accurately jabbed is no guarantee of immunity.

Vaccinated, but not protected. :geek: dbnp