David Archuleta is GAY!

[JSmith]

Years ago church associated media praised lacy Schwimmer, a contestant on “so you think you can dance” for being a role model and sharing her testimony through dance.

I couple months later she did a photo shoot of her semi nude in a bathtub and no one seem to notice.

Years later her brother Benji swimmer came out as gay and everyone was quiet.

Then of course you have people like the lead singer of Neon Trees who came out as gay and then produced music to defame the Prophet Joseph Smith and people just seem to accept it.

Then Paul Cardall comes out and leaves the church

Now David Archuleta, the cherub faced little poster boy for Mormonism is announcing his bisexuality

It is interesting that so many of the public figures that the church leans on to show its relevance in modern media and culture turn out either in violation of the standards of the church or as proponents of causes and ideologies which are contrary to the gospel

Maybe this is because the churches PR campaigns to show its worldly relevance or missguided

[OCDMOM]

Why do we need to know that?

[mahalanobis]

Years ago church associated media praised lacy Schwimmer, a contestant on “so you think you can dance” for being a role model and sharing her testimony through dance.

I couple months later she did a photo shoot of her semi nude in a bathtub and no one seem to notice.

Years later her brother Benji swimmer came out as gay and everyone was quiet.

Then of course you have people like the lead singer of Neon Trees who came out as gay and then produced music to defame the Prophet Joseph Smith and people just seem to accept it.

Then Paul Cardall comes out and leaves the church

Now David Archuleta, the cherub faced little poster boy for Mormonism is announcing his bisexuality

It is interesting that so many of the public figures that the church leans on to show its relevance in modern media and culture turn out either in violation of the standards of the church or as proponents of causes and ideologies which are contrary to the gospel

Maybe this is because the churches PR campaigns to show its worldly relevance or missguided

The church leaning on individuals for its own media goals is the kiss of death.

If Sheri Dew ever shows up at your door to recruit you (saying the church image needs you - and that you alone can save the church from modern irrelevance)... Run away like your soul depends on it.

Every single "Mormon and Gay" profile was eventually taken down. They started off with these individuals saying they were committed to being chaste. And one by one they were taken down because each person changed their mind to enter into a same-sex relationship.

[JSmith]

“Every single "Mormon and Gay" profile was eventually taken down. They started off with these individuals saying they were committed to being chaste. And one by one they were taken down because each person changed their mind to enter into a same-sex relationship.”

Give me some more details on this. I have never heard of this before!

[abijah`]

Years ago church associated media praised lacy Schwimmer, a contestant on “so you think you can dance” for being a role model and sharing her testimony through dance.

I couple months later she did a photo shoot of her semi nude in a bathtub and no one seem to notice.

Years later her brother Benji swimmer came out as gay and everyone was quiet.

Then of course you have people like the lead singer of Neon Trees who came out as gay and then produced music to defame the Prophet Joseph Smith and people just seem to accept it.

Then Paul Cardall comes out and leaves the church

Now David Archuleta, the cherub faced little poster boy for Mormonism is announcing his bisexuality

It is interesting that so many of the public figures that the church leans on to show its relevance in modern media and culture turn out either in violation of the standards of the church or as proponents of causes and ideologies which are contrary to the gospel

Maybe this is because the churches PR campaigns to show its worldly relevance or missguided

Yeah, Satan is winning the culture war, and to paraphrase Andy Breitbart, "everything is downstream from culture".

Like Ive said many times before - I think the Davidic servant will at least start out as a "culture hero" / "culture warrior", and likely a musician w/ "the secret chord".

The power of any great messianic or prophetic figure is how contagious they are, and at the moment... who does the Lord have in terms of providing that inspiration/aspirational factor? A bunch of boomer octogenarians (no hate, just saying), and a church bogged down by soul-stifling corporate bureaucracy? Sorry, but theres absolutely nothing about the Church or its members thats particularly infectious, or exciting. Call em as i see em.

The Lord maybe doesn't need more cultural boomers, prim-and-proper "nice guys" or spiritual tumbleweeds who roll wherever the Babylonian winds are blowing. More likely it will be on the cultural fronts - public figures, musicians and renowned people associated w/ the Church who don't bend over for the hollow values of the world like Archuleta has done.

[mahalanobis]

“Every single "Mormon and Gay" profile was eventually taken down. They started off with these individuals saying they were committed to being chaste. And one by one they were taken down because each person changed their mind to enter into a same-sex relationship.”

Give me some more details on this. I have never heard of this before!

There was a dedicated thread on here. I'll poke around to dig it up. But Lizzy will probably beat me to it.

[Willow]

Missionary Dept ought to study LGBTQ recruitment and indoctrination techniques. Baptisms and retention might increase.

In early 2020 We had a counselor from LDS social services come and speak to our relief society about taking time for yourself and self care () by the end he was taking questions and for some reason he shared that in the mission in our area we had over 20 missionaries who were all same sex attracted that he was working with. He said that this was a huge issue that they were seeing in mission fields all over the church. That and phone addiction.

I was a bit shocked that the numbers were that high. The culture of the world has changed dramatically in the past 10 years.

The Mission department must know an awful lot about the LGBTQ indoctrination to have so many missionaries struggling with this hard struggle.

Willow

[Lizzy60]

“Every single "Mormon and Gay" profile was eventually taken down. They started off with these individuals saying they were committed to being chaste. And one by one they were taken down because each person changed their mind to enter into a same-sex relationship.”

Give me some more details on this. I have never heard of this before!

There was a dedicated thread on here. I'll poke around to dig it up. But Lizzy will probably beat me to it.

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My post on that thread:
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There have been some significant changes (deletions) on the MormonandGay website. Originally, according to someone at MMB, the site featured videos of 16 LDS young adults who were committed to staying in the Church and living a celibate life. These testimonies were meant to give hope, and to be uplifting to other LDS who are gay. As these people have changed their minds, and have entered into same-sex relationships, their videos were taken down. The website techs took one of the remaining videos, from a young woman named Jessyca, and divided it into three different videos to take up some space.

Well, Jessyca has done her own video announcing her relationship with a girlfriend, so if you go to MormonandGay and click on her videos, you only get that blank screen we've all become familiar with on YouTube when something gets pulled.

There are now only three videos of actual gay Mormons, and tons of videos by Apostles, telling gay Mormons that they can live the gospel and be happy (if they don't act on the gay).
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Today, MormonandGay has 2 examples of gays in mixed orientation marriages, a family who has welcomed their son’s husband into their family, and one man who is currently committed to being celibate. Sixteen committed to celibacy a few years ago down to one.

[EmmaLee]

Missionary Dept ought to study LGBTQ recruitment and indoctrination techniques. Baptisms and retention might increase.

In early 2020 We had a counselor from LDS social services come and speak to our relief society about taking time for yourself and self care () by the end he was taking questions and for some reason he shared that in the mission in our area we had over 20 missionaries who were all same sex attracted that he was working with. He said that this was a huge issue that they were seeing in mission fields all over the church. That and phone addiction.

I was a bit shocked that the numbers were that high. The culture of the world has changed dramatically in the past 10 years.

The Mission department must know an awful lot about the LGBTQ indoctrination to have so many missionaries struggling with this hard struggle.

45 years ago, when my brother was getting his Ph.D in psychology at BYU in the mid '70's, he was asked by the Church to do research and write a paper/report on why so many LDS missionaries were homosexuals. He did, and it's still on file at BYU. So this isn't a new problem - it's just that the Church has done a masterful job of hiding it till now. And now, of course, they don't want to hide it, but instead they glorify it (like the General RS presidency at the recent BYU Women's Conference). Nothing new under the sun - it's just more exposed now.

[abijah`]

45 years ago, when my brother was getting his Ph.D in psychology at BYU in the mid '70's, he was asked by the Church to do research and write a paper/report on why so many LDS missionaries were homosexuals. He did, and it's still on file at BYU. So this isn't a new problem - it's just that the Church has done a masterful job of hiding it till now.

Wow... so what exactly is going on then? (do i wanna know? lol) i remember that twitter link on here some time past, about all the places in BYU (and MTC..) that needed to be re-dedicated on account of unseemly conduct in the premises, but I'm certainly not as well-informed as you and others are in this area.

It contrasts so starkly with my own personal experience - thankfully. I served 2015-2017, and I didnt hear about any gayness in our mission. There was one elder who spoke with the Sodom-inflection in his voice, but I didnt ever hear even a whisper about him actually being gay, or anything to do with it at all, for all i know he just has a that fag-tone of voice (which imo no priesthood holder should speak w/ that timbre, but maybe thats just me)

But we were quite an obedient mission, as they tend to go. Rules were followed and the mission culture was well-functioning and healthy. #BlessedAbijah

[EmmaLee]

45 years ago, when my brother was getting his Ph.D in psychology at BYU in the mid '70's, he was asked by the Church to do research and write a paper/report on why so many LDS missionaries were homosexuals. He did, and it's still on file at BYU. So this isn't a new problem - it's just that the Church has done a masterful job of hiding it till now.

Wow... so what exactly is going on then?

Not sure what you mean. What is going on today? Or back then? Same thing for both, only today, gay missionaries are celebrated and praised - back then, they were sent home immediately.

[abijah`]

Not sure what you mean. What is going on today? Or back then? Same thing for both, only today, gay missionaries are celebrated and praised - back then, they were sent home immediately.

Sorry didnt phrase that well. I mean like what was the stuff that the Church was better at hiding back then than they are nowadays? And how does that compare with today? I'm just not super aware of this stuff, and the details. I dont have an ear for the mormon grapevine like some do. I remember hearing a rumour on my mission about a supposed "2%" number being thrown around for how many missionaries are gay, but thats all.

[Hiphopopotamus]

Homosexual is the term to use.
Why support perverts stealing/ abducting a beautiful word, the meaning of which is light hearted and happy.

Stealing the rainbow bothers me more. A biblical sign from God, perverted.

If it makes you feel any better it isn’t an actual rainbow. The colors they use are wrong, it is a multi-colored flag, not a rainbow flag.

Rainbow colors:
Red
Orange
Yellow
Green
Blue
Indigo
Violet

Pride flag colors:
Red
Orange
Yellow
Green
Blue
Purple

They’ve added the trans colors white, pink, baby blue, and black and brown for “trans people of color” and yellow with a purple circle for intersex people.”

It’s not a rainbow, it’s a multi-colored mess of a deal that is hideous and badly designed.

We should use a proper curved rainbow to represent God’s covenants.

We should, but Satan had to eff that up too.

[acsmith88lds]

Never met an artsy-farsty, sing-song type that wasn't a closet homosexual. Almost all of these singers are closet homosexuals. Not surprised at all. These kind of activities are part and parcel of these low-testosterone "men." Show me a real man who spends his time singing and dancing.

King David from the Bible? He sang and danced a lot.......but had a ton of wives and lusted hardcore after Bathsheba.

[davedan]

could being gay be looked upon as under-appreciating women?

I appreciate womanhood so much, their nurturing and spiritual sensibilities. Women's brains are literally wired differently (left to right) than men's (front to back) and I appreciate their unique perspective.

I couldn't think of denying my child from being raised without the influence of a righteous mother in their life.

[Cruiserdude]

could being gay be looked upon as under-appreciating women?

I appreciate womanhood so much, their nurturing and spiritual sensibilities. Women's brains are literally wired differently (left to right) than men's (front to back) and I appreciate their unique perspective.

I couldn't think of denying my child from being raised without the influence of a righteous mother in their life.

The not appreciating womanhood thing is an interesting perspective to look at the gay thing through.... It absolutely frustrates motherhood and womanhood as ordained by God.
I agree with you on how incredible motherhood is. Even when you see 'mamas' in the nature shows, that 'instinct' or 'intuition' involved with motherhood is amazing to watch.

[Robin Hood]

Never met an artsy-farsty, sing-song type that wasn't a closet homosexual. Almost all of these singers are closet homosexuals. Not surprised at all. These kind of activities are part and parcel of these low-testosterone "men." Show me a real man who spends his time singing and dancing.

King David from the Bible? He sang and danced a lot.......but had a ton of wives and lusted hardcore after Bathsheba.

Yeah but it was manly dancing. I'm thinking Cossacks.

[Aprhys]

Never met an artsy-farsty, sing-song type that wasn't a closet homosexual. Almost all of these singers are closet homosexuals. Not surprised at all. These kind of activities are part and parcel of these low-testosterone "men." Show me a real man who spends his time singing and dancing.

King David from the Bible? He sang and danced a lot.......but had a ton of wives and lusted hardcore after Bathsheba.

Gay

[markharr]

Biden's youtube town hall on Covid-19 vaccination hosted by gay ex-Mormon male who does makeup tutorials on youtube.

Wikiipedia lists Manual Gutierrez, more popularly known as Manny Mua as having grown up in a Mormon family

[Reluctant Watchman]

Biden's youtube town hall on Covid-19 vaccination hosted by gay ex-Mormon male who does makeup tutorials on youtube.

Wikiipedia lists Manual Gutierrez, more popularly known as Manny Mua as having grown up in a Mormon family

Horse poop.

[EmmaLee]

Not sure what you mean. What is going on today? Or back then? Same thing for both, only today, gay missionaries are celebrated and praised - back then, they were sent home immediately.

Sorry didnt phrase that well. I mean like what was the stuff that the Church was better at hiding back then than they are nowadays? And how does that compare with today? I'm just not super aware of this stuff, and the details. I dont have an ear for the mormon grapevine like some do. I remember hearing a rumour on my mission about a supposed "2%" number being thrown around for how many missionaries are gay, but thats all.

Yeah, just that the Church was better at hiding how many missionaries were gay back then, it just wasn't talked about - but to be fair, it was easier to hide things in general. Also, of course, society wasn't pro-gay at that time - being gay wasn't generally something a person would announce to the world like it is today. Homosexuality was still a sin in the Church, whereas now, the Church and a great deal of its members celebrate being gay, announce it to the world, promote it, praise it, etc. - a 180 difference.

[Thinker]

Loss of respect for anyone who USES their fame to hurt people while pretending to be victimized. Homosexuality - especially for men - statistically is SICKNESS & premature death. Media/powers play off of the human tendency to want attention & to be considered “nice” - not “homophobic.” Homosexuality aids their goal of DEPOPULATION. When will those struggling with this disorder realize people pushing it DO MOT RELALY CARE ABOUT THEM - but really care about themselves & being liked.

And the LIE that babies are born to rape, do pedophilia of any other sexual dysfunction - adds to the war against free agency. If you’re born to steal, kill etc - “then you just can’t help it.” Evil in lying, shifting blame & harming.

[Cruiserdude]

Never met an artsy-farsty, sing-song type that wasn't a closet homosexual. Almost all of these singers are closet homosexuals. Not surprised at all. These kind of activities are part and parcel of these low-testosterone "men." Show me a real man who spends his time singing and dancing.

King David from the Bible? He sang and danced a lot.......but had a ton of wives and lusted hardcore after Bathsheba.

Gay

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[BeNotDeceived]

Like Ive said many times before - I think the Davidic servant will at least start out as a "culture hero" / "culture warrior", and likely a musician w/ "the secret chord".

You sir, are indeed correct.

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Somewhere I read something about him not speaking, at least for a time, and that’s exactly what’s happened.

Chord, but not secret. gbng

[Niemand]

I do believe that there was a time when coming out took a lot of courage. Misguided courage but still courage

That time is not 2021.

Somebody recently pointed out to me that most of the corporate support for gays came out (!) after same sex marriage was legalised in most places.

"Actor gay" is not a story anymore. I assume most actors are gay or bi, and that anyone at the more commercial end of pop music is, unless I'm told otherwise.

We had a local politician marry her girlfriend on the quiet. She was commended for her bravery by the press afterwards, except she never once mentioned the LGBT issue once in her electoral material, either in a personal capacity or claiming to stand up for their rights.

We also had a TV presenter come out in the UK (Phillip Schofield if you're wondering). He was commended for his bravery in the press too. The only thing was that his 18 year old boyfriend who worked in the studio was about to announce it for him. That aspect was never mentioned, or what his wife thought.