LDS Freedom Forum

EvanLM wrote: ↑January 29th, 2022, 8:18 pm

Thinker wrote: ↑November 13th, 2021, 10:37 am Interesting.
And welcome to this forum.
How are eastern philosophies similar to lds scripture?

I came across some Chinese symbols that predate Hebrew stories, suggesting maybe China as the origin of what so many believe.
What do you think?

regarding the History of the World there are two themes that have been philosophied and historized and taught and lectured and printed in books, etc. Any way they are simply that civilation started as one group with stories that were handed down even though people moved and started other colonies. OR a group of people moved around and taught the stories to different people of colonies and they handed down the stories.

I have a tendency to believe the first explanation above, although both of these events could have happened in parallel thus reinforcing the belief of these stories. . . .

Makes sense.
Another possibility is Jung’s psychological explanation of the lds ideas of us all being children of God & in preexistence - intelligences who helped in creation… And the deep essence of who we ALL are - (Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Taoist, lds etc) goes way beyond superficial religions & ethnic customs - to our “collective unconscious.”

zhang_daqian wrote: ↑November 9th, 2021, 2:13 pm

Gadianton Slayer wrote: ↑November 9th, 2021, 2:01 pm

zhang_daqian wrote: ↑November 9th, 2021, 1:58 pm Yes we cannot tell if the spirit of the LDS is Christian or a false one. We cannot see if unity is in their spirit. There are many millions of mormons but they all believe different?

I believe that the only true church is Christ's. All worldly religions and organizations have become corrupted.

Yes we believe the same. But we are looking for holy men like the three wise men who can read the signs of three heavens and cast out evil spirits from dark ceremonies or praying like Paul and Jesus in the word.

The COJCLDS is Christ's great church. There are many faithful and righteous men in this church of Jesus that can do the things you mentioned. Jesus has seen fit to put righteous men in our church at a time when the leadership will get confused. These men hold the same power and priesthood of the prophets and apostles of this church.

The prophets have no greater power than the faithful men of the church who hold priesthood. These faithful priesthood holders, while many are not leaders, again, have all of the gifts and powers of Christ. They can even raise the dead if necessary. time to build Zion

Gadianton Slayer wrote: ↑November 9th, 2021, 2:01 pm

zhang_daqian wrote: ↑November 9th, 2021, 1:58 pm Yes we cannot tell if the spirit of the LDS is Christian or a false one. We cannot see if unity is in their spirit. There are many millions of mormons but they all believe different?

I believe that the only true church is Christ's. All worldly religions and organizations have become corrupted.

Then why do we need to belong to any terrestrial church?

NeveR wrote: ↑January 30th, 2022, 3:13 pm

Gadianton Slayer wrote: ↑November 9th, 2021, 2:01 pm

zhang_daqian wrote: ↑November 9th, 2021, 1:58 pm Yes we cannot tell if the spirit of the LDS is Christian or a false one. We cannot see if unity is in their spirit. There are many millions of mormons but they all believe different?

I believe that the only true church is Christ's. All worldly religions and organizations have become corrupted.

Then why do we need to belong to any terrestrial church?

You don’t.

https://gadiantonslayer.blogspot.com/20 ... 3.html?m=1

Gadianton Slayer wrote: ↑January 30th, 2022, 3:14 pm

NeveR wrote: ↑January 30th, 2022, 3:13 pm

Gadianton Slayer wrote: ↑November 9th, 2021, 2:01 pm

zhang_daqian wrote: ↑November 9th, 2021, 1:58 pm Yes we cannot tell if the spirit of the LDS is Christian or a false one. We cannot see if unity is in their spirit. There are many millions of mormons but they all believe different?

I believe that the only true church is Christ's. All worldly religions and organizations have become corrupted.

Then why do we need to belong to any terrestrial church?

You don’t.

https://gadiantonslayer.blogspot.com/20 ... 3.html?m=1

It's a strange journey for me because I never previously belonged to any organized religion. I just had an inward idea of there being a divinity and source of goodness in the universe. I always felt that all dogma and scripture ended up being more about human hubris than anything spiritual. But then I "married into" the LDS church - only to find myself here among people who are reaffirming a lot of my original ideas!

NeveR wrote: ↑January 30th, 2022, 3:20 pm It's a strange journey for me because I never previously belonged to any organized religion. I just had an inward idea of there being a divinity and source of goodness in the universe. I always felt that all dogma and scripture ended up being more about human hubris than anything spiritual. But then I "married into" the LDS church - only to find myself here among people who are reaffirming a lot of my original ideas!

Strange is a good term from the opposite side of the spectrum, I was raised in a multi-generational LDS family. There is a very fine line to walk after realizing the corruption in the LDS org. So many I know have turned completely atheistic, which is incredibly sad.

EvanLM wrote: ↑January 30th, 2022, 3:08 pm The COJCLDS is Christ's great church.

Christ's church is not a physical organization. That is its name, but even if an apple calls itself an orange... it's still an apple.

zhang_daqian wrote: ↑November 9th, 2021, 1:58 pm

KosherDad wrote: ↑November 9th, 2021, 1:50 pm Matthew 24:24 (NKJV) For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.

Yes we cannot tell if the spirit of the LDS is Christian or a false one. We cannot see if unity is in their spirit. There are many millions of mormons but they all believe different?

Actually, the Scriptures say we can: