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Derek Chauvin Guilty of murder or Not Guilty?

Posted: April 20th, 2021, 9:31 am
by Lexew1899
Do you think Derek Chauvin committed murder? Yes or no. I would tend to think it was manslaughter, but interested in others opinion on the matter here.

Re: Derek Chauvin Guilty of murder or Not Guilty?

Posted: April 20th, 2021, 10:26 am
by InfoWarrior82
Nah, the dude had enough Fentanyl in his bloodstream to kill 3 grown adults. He died of an overdose. He was a dead man walking.

Re: Derek Chauvin Guilty of murder or Not Guilty?

Posted: April 20th, 2021, 10:31 am
by Lexew1899
InfoWarrior82 wrote: April 20th, 2021, 10:26 am Nah, the dude had enough Fentanyl in his bloodstream to kill 3 grown adults. He died of an overdose. He was a dead man walking.
Did they ever say why he has that much in his system? Tried hiding it and ate it when police came or something?

Re: Derek Chauvin Guilty of murder or Not Guilty?

Posted: April 20th, 2021, 10:49 am
by InfoWarrior82
Lexew1899 wrote: April 20th, 2021, 10:31 am
InfoWarrior82 wrote: April 20th, 2021, 10:26 am Nah, the dude had enough Fentanyl in his bloodstream to kill 3 grown adults. He died of an overdose. He was a dead man walking.
Did they ever say why he has that much in his system? Tried hiding it and ate it when police came or something?
Yeah, he was already very high when he was in the grocery store, acting like your typical crackhead. Then ate the rest of the evidence when the police tried to arrest him.

Re: Derek Chauvin Guilty of murder or Not Guilty?

Posted: April 20th, 2021, 11:58 am
by Lexew1899
Biden begins prayer ritual to unknown entity asking for a guilty verdict.
https://nypost.com/2021/04/20/biden-say ... %20buttons

Re: Derek Chauvin Guilty of murder or Not Guilty?

Posted: April 20th, 2021, 12:01 pm
by Lexew1899
Big Cities getting ready for mass rioting if the jury lets him walk.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/bid ... e-violence

Re: Derek Chauvin Guilty of murder or Not Guilty?

Posted: April 20th, 2021, 12:41 pm
by EmmaLee
I don't believe he's guilty of murder or even manslaughter. As InfoWarrior stated above, Floyd ultimately died of drugs in his system, and the complications from years of drug abuse. There was zero bruising or damage to the back of his neck from Chauvin kneeling on him. I was willing to believe at first that Chauvin went too far, and that he was guilty of manslaughter. But as all the evidence has come out (additional videos from various angles, more witnesses, autopsy reports, etc.), there's just no way he is guilty of Floyd's death.

It won't matter though, if he's found not guilty in any way, shape, or form, the country is going to burn.

Re: Derek Chauvin Guilty of murder or Not Guilty?

Posted: April 20th, 2021, 12:46 pm
by EmmaLee
Lexew1899 wrote: April 20th, 2021, 11:58 am Biden begins prayer ritual to unknown entity asking for a guilty verdict.
https://nypost.com/2021/04/20/biden-say ... %20buttons
He just makes me want to literally vomit.

Re: Derek Chauvin Guilty of murder or Not Guilty?

Posted: April 20th, 2021, 12:56 pm
by Lexew1899
EmmaLee wrote: April 20th, 2021, 12:41 pm I don't believe he's guilty of murder or even manslaughter. As InfoWarrior stated above, Floyd ultimately died of drugs in his system, and the complications from years of drug abuse. There was zero bruising or damage to the back of his neck from Chauvin kneeling on him. I was willing to believe at first that Chauvin went too far, and that he was guilty of manslaughter. But as all the evidence has come out (additional videos from various angles, more witnesses, autopsy reports, etc.), there's just no way he is guilty of Floyd's death.

It won't matter though, if he's found not guilty in any way, shape, or form, the country is going to burn.
I definitely think his death was mainly self inflicted. So maybe manslaughter is incorrect as I originally stated. But I do think the policeman did go a bit overboard. In hindsight it’s always 20/20 though.

Re: Derek Chauvin Guilty of murder or Not Guilty?

Posted: April 20th, 2021, 1:39 pm
by 4Joshua8
Verdict coming in less than an hour.

Re: Derek Chauvin Guilty of murder or Not Guilty?

Posted: April 20th, 2021, 1:58 pm
by MMbelieve
EmmaLee wrote: April 20th, 2021, 12:41 pm I don't believe he's guilty of murder or even manslaughter. As InfoWarrior stated above, Floyd ultimately died of drugs in his system, and the complications from years of drug abuse. There was zero bruising or damage to the back of his neck from Chauvin kneeling on him. I was willing to believe at first that Chauvin went too far, and that he was guilty of manslaughter. But as all the evidence has come out (additional videos from various angles, more witnesses, autopsy reports, etc.), there's just no way he is guilty of Floyd's death.

It won't matter though, if he's found not guilty in any way, shape, or form, the country is going to burn.
Yeah as far as the chance of riots they will happen either way but if he’s found not guilty of anything then it will be way worse and the race war will intensify - possibly beyond what anyone in my generation has ever seen or imagined.

Re: Derek Chauvin Guilty of murder or Not Guilty?

Posted: April 20th, 2021, 1:59 pm
by JK4Woods
Lexew1899 wrote: April 20th, 2021, 12:56 pm
EmmaLee wrote: April 20th, 2021, 12:41 pm I don't believe he's guilty of murder or even manslaughter. As InfoWarrior stated above, Floyd ultimately died of drugs in his system, and the complications from years of drug abuse. There was zero bruising or damage to the back of his neck from Chauvin kneeling on him. I was willing to believe at first that Chauvin went too far, and that he was guilty of manslaughter. But as all the evidence has come out (additional videos from various angles, more witnesses, autopsy reports, etc.), there's just no way he is guilty of Floyd's death.

It won't matter though, if he's found not guilty in any way, shape, or form, the country is going to burn.
I definitely think his death was mainly self inflicted. So maybe manslaughter is incorrect as I originally stated. But I do think the policeman did go a bit overboard. In hindsight it’s always 20/20 though.
Anyone see the other police chest cameras...?? They showed Chauvins knee was on Floyds shoulder the whole time.
Interesting how the Metro Police had this video from the other officers holding Floyd's feet and knees since early in the riots, and didn't show it.

The public video angles made it look like Chauvin was kneeling right on Floyds neck, but he wasn't. Not at any time...

Re: Derek Chauvin Guilty of murder or Not Guilty?

Posted: April 20th, 2021, 2:02 pm
by Lexew1899
JK4Woods wrote: April 20th, 2021, 1:59 pm
Lexew1899 wrote: April 20th, 2021, 12:56 pm
EmmaLee wrote: April 20th, 2021, 12:41 pm I don't believe he's guilty of murder or even manslaughter. As InfoWarrior stated above, Floyd ultimately died of drugs in his system, and the complications from years of drug abuse. There was zero bruising or damage to the back of his neck from Chauvin kneeling on him. I was willing to believe at first that Chauvin went too far, and that he was guilty of manslaughter. But as all the evidence has come out (additional videos from various angles, more witnesses, autopsy reports, etc.), there's just no way he is guilty of Floyd's death.

It won't matter though, if he's found not guilty in any way, shape, or form, the country is going to burn.
I definitely think his death was mainly self inflicted. So maybe manslaughter is incorrect as I originally stated. But I do think the policeman did go a bit overboard. In hindsight it’s always 20/20 though.
Anyone see the other police chest cameras...?? They showed Chauvins knee was on Floyds shoulder the whole time.
Interesting how the Metro Police had this video from the other officers holding Floyd's feet and knees since early in the riots, and didn't show it.

The public video angles made it look like Chauvin was kneeling right on Floyds neck, but he wasn't. Not at any time...
The knee to the neck media spin was always pretty much bs. Just like the hands up don’t shoot lie. The only reason I say he went overboard is it seemed like unnecessary force to keep him pinned to the ground for several minutes. Just toss him in the back of a cop car would make more sense to me.

Re: Derek Chauvin Guilty of murder or Not Guilty?

Posted: April 20th, 2021, 2:26 pm
by Lexew1899
Looks like these are the 3 charges he is being accused of, that the jury can select. I’m betting he will be charged of one of them at least. I’d betting zero chance he walks.

Second-degree unintentional murder means causing death without intent by committing a felony.

Second-degree manslaughter is causing death by unreasonable risk.

Third-degree murder means causing death by an “eminently dangerous” act, showing a “depraved mind.”

Re: Derek Chauvin Guilty of murder or Not Guilty?

Posted: April 20th, 2021, 2:54 pm
by samizdat
If they get him for anything, probably the second degree manslaughter charge.

Re: Derek Chauvin Guilty of murder or Not Guilty?

Posted: April 20th, 2021, 3:06 pm
by EmmaLee
MMbelieve wrote: April 20th, 2021, 1:58 pm
EmmaLee wrote: April 20th, 2021, 12:41 pm I don't believe he's guilty of murder or even manslaughter. As InfoWarrior stated above, Floyd ultimately died of drugs in his system, and the complications from years of drug abuse. There was zero bruising or damage to the back of his neck from Chauvin kneeling on him. I was willing to believe at first that Chauvin went too far, and that he was guilty of manslaughter. But as all the evidence has come out (additional videos from various angles, more witnesses, autopsy reports, etc.), there's just no way he is guilty of Floyd's death.

It won't matter though, if he's found not guilty in any way, shape, or form, the country is going to burn.
Yeah as far as the chance of riots they will happen either way but if he’s found not guilty of anything then it will be way worse and the race war will intensify - possibly beyond what anyone in my generation has ever seen or imagined.
Agreed, I too can't imagine this going well/quietly no matter what the jury decides. With Biden and Waters stoking the coals constantly - they and their ilk want to see the country burn.

Just heard the verdict is in, but hasn't been released to the public yet. :oops:

Re: Derek Chauvin Guilty of murder or Not Guilty?

Posted: April 20th, 2021, 3:08 pm
by Lexew1899
Found guilty of ALL charges.

Re: Derek Chauvin Guilty of murder or Not Guilty?

Posted: April 20th, 2021, 3:10 pm
by samizdat
Kind of surprising that they got him on all three counts.

Re: Derek Chauvin Guilty of murder or Not Guilty?

Posted: April 20th, 2021, 3:11 pm
by EmmaLee
Lexew1899 wrote: April 20th, 2021, 3:08 pm Found guilty of ALL charges.
Wow! But not too surprised. The jury members don't want to be doxed by BLM adherents and murdered. Wow.... this was a travesty.

Re: Derek Chauvin Guilty of murder or Not Guilty?

Posted: April 20th, 2021, 3:12 pm
by samizdat
EmmaLee wrote: April 20th, 2021, 3:11 pm
Lexew1899 wrote: April 20th, 2021, 3:08 pm Found guilty of ALL charges.
Wow! But not too surprised. The jury members don't want to be doxed by BLM adherents and murdered. Wow.... this was a travesty.
Not to be outdone; universally condemned by the world.

Re: Derek Chauvin Guilty of murder or Not Guilty?

Posted: April 20th, 2021, 3:12 pm
by InfoWarrior82
Why would anyone become a police officer now?

Re: Derek Chauvin Guilty of murder or Not Guilty?

Posted: April 20th, 2021, 3:16 pm
by EmmaLee
InfoWarrior82 wrote: April 20th, 2021, 3:12 pm Why would anyone become a police officer now?
I thought all the libtarded cities were getting rid of their police anyway, and replacing them with social workers and counselors. :lol:

Re: Derek Chauvin Guilty of murder or Not Guilty?

Posted: April 20th, 2021, 3:18 pm
by gkearney
Chauvin would have stood a better chance if his lawyers mounted any kind of defence. They took what/ all of two day, maybe? His appeal should focus on incompetent counsel.

Re: Derek Chauvin Guilty of murder or Not Guilty?

Posted: April 20th, 2021, 3:22 pm
by Destroyer
It's a no win situation to be an officer. You get sued if you do your job right; everyone is a Monday morning quarterback. Shift work with bad pay. Worthless retirement.

It was a no win situation for the jury- they chose the path of least resistance for themselves and for the the city. It will still burn, sooner or later. This will only embolden criminals. Live like a thug, prey on society, and get a huge pay out, either for you or your family.

The precedent for mob rule is now set. God help us.

Re: Derek Chauvin Guilty of murder or Not Guilty?

Posted: April 20th, 2021, 3:23 pm
by tribrac
Whew glad that is done and behind us. Now we can finally move on towards a better future for everyone.