This is NOT a Vaccine !
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URGENT!! What the vaxxines REALLY are AND what they ACTUALLY do - with Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
"you are getting injected with a chemical substance to induce illness"
"this is about getting you sick, and having your own cells be the thing that gets you sick"
https://www.bitchute.com/video/hDE8TbRiltgj/
"you are getting injected with a chemical substance to induce illness"
"this is about getting you sick, and having your own cells be the thing that gets you sick"
https://www.bitchute.com/video/hDE8TbRiltgj/
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why are people so stupid and gullible !
why do they just accept everything - and do whatever they're told by their church leaders
and these evil secret combinations that have gotten power over us. SMH
why do they just accept everything - and do whatever they're told by their church leaders
and these evil secret combinations that have gotten power over us. SMH
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Check out another groundbreaking video
URGENT!! Doctors Worldwide Warn About Covid Vaccine!!
https://www.bitchute.com/video/IF5WicmITjEp/
(video starts at 1 min. 35 sec.)
Focus on Fauci - Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/OS8WkjlyQnOl/
URGENT!! Doctors Worldwide Warn About Covid Vaccine!!
https://www.bitchute.com/video/IF5WicmITjEp/
(video starts at 1 min. 35 sec.)
Focus on Fauci - Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/OS8WkjlyQnOl/
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COVID VACCINES - WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION!!
Dr. Coleman states that this is the most crucial video he's ever made about covid-19
https://www.bitchute.com/video/tgYg6ic8SxIG/
Dr. Coleman states that this is the most crucial video he's ever made about covid-19
https://www.bitchute.com/video/tgYg6ic8SxIG/
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And the heroes of political and ecclesiastical "conservatism" are all lining up to get the shot except a small few.
For me, I learn a lot about who a person really is depending whether or not they get the shot.
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For me, I learn a lot about who a person really is depending whether or not they get the shot.
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Emerson, ~1850s: "If we encounter a man of rare intellect, we should ask him what books he reads."InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑March 29th, 2021, 10:27 am And the heroes of political and ecclesiastical "conservatism" are all lining up to get the shot except a small few.
For me, I learn a lot about who a person really is depending whether or not they get the shot.
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IW, 2021: "If we encounter a man of unknown intellect, we should ask him whether or not they got the shot."
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Actually... yes.GüdFüdDude wrote: ↑March 29th, 2021, 10:42 amEmerson, ~1850s: "If we encounter a man of rare intellect, we should ask him what books he reads."InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑March 29th, 2021, 10:27 am And the heroes of political and ecclesiastical "conservatism" are all lining up to get the shot except a small few.
For me, I learn a lot about who a person really is depending whether or not they get the shot.
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IW, 2021: "If we encounter a man of unknown intellect, we should ask him whether or not they got the shot."
If doctors are being censored by the MSM, wise people should listen to them due to the fact that the very people doing the censoring have no credibility.
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Thanks for sharing. I was able to watch.
I 100% support freedom of information and exchange of ideas and support sharing of videos like this of different opinions and viewpoints.
However, this particular video was not particularly persuasive to me. Even if the term "vaccine" is not applicable, it is unclear what the main speaker's point is, in fact he says things that seem legally correct but irrelevant. He continually implies that the product will not create an immune response, which is technically true, but not relevant because the proteins your body will make WILL cause an immune response. It seems like a hyper technical definition that doesn't aid in decision making about whether to get the shot. And from a true legal perspective, I think the speaker is actually wrong in that it could be said that legally, the pfizer or moderna treatment is a (but not "the") proximate cause of immunity because "but for" its presence, immunity would not have been acquired.
It is pretty straightforward. 1) You take this shot. 2) The mRNA causes your body to make spike proteins. 3) Your body then learns to fight the spike proteins. 4) Then your symptoms are reduced. The main speaker wants to focus on the fact that the vaccination part is only steps 1 and 2, which is technically correct, but I find irrelevant.
The last speaker, Judy Mikovitz, makes some allegations that are interesting. It would be interesting to learn more about her thoughts. If you have a video post it on here sometime.
BTW, here is an interesting rabies "vaccination" program using mRNA. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28754494/
Here is a discussion about mRNA "vaccines": https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6446947/
I sincerely am thinking this through and appreciate your posts. I am now eligible to take the shot in my state and therefore can now choose if I want to take it. I continue to lean toward taking it.
Thanks.
I 100% support freedom of information and exchange of ideas and support sharing of videos like this of different opinions and viewpoints.
However, this particular video was not particularly persuasive to me. Even if the term "vaccine" is not applicable, it is unclear what the main speaker's point is, in fact he says things that seem legally correct but irrelevant. He continually implies that the product will not create an immune response, which is technically true, but not relevant because the proteins your body will make WILL cause an immune response. It seems like a hyper technical definition that doesn't aid in decision making about whether to get the shot. And from a true legal perspective, I think the speaker is actually wrong in that it could be said that legally, the pfizer or moderna treatment is a (but not "the") proximate cause of immunity because "but for" its presence, immunity would not have been acquired.
It is pretty straightforward. 1) You take this shot. 2) The mRNA causes your body to make spike proteins. 3) Your body then learns to fight the spike proteins. 4) Then your symptoms are reduced. The main speaker wants to focus on the fact that the vaccination part is only steps 1 and 2, which is technically correct, but I find irrelevant.
The last speaker, Judy Mikovitz, makes some allegations that are interesting. It would be interesting to learn more about her thoughts. If you have a video post it on here sometime.
BTW, here is an interesting rabies "vaccination" program using mRNA. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28754494/
Here is a discussion about mRNA "vaccines": https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6446947/
I sincerely am thinking this through and appreciate your posts. I am now eligible to take the shot in my state and therefore can now choose if I want to take it. I continue to lean toward taking it.
Thanks.
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What I’ve gathered - in study, thinking & the Spirit - is that this covid artificial-mRNA shot is POISON. My concern now is what to tell or do for my Dad, who has taken 2 shots of it. Any suggestions?
Dr. Lee Merritt: In Animal Studies, After Being Injected With mRNA Technology, All Animals Died Upon Reinfection... but they didn’t die of the “vaccine”. What they died from was what used to be called “immune enhancement” and now they call it “antibody dependent enhancement” (ADE). Dr. Lee Merritt explains that mRNA technology is not a vaccine, mirroring what Dr. David Martin also stated recently.
https://truth11.com/2021/01/29/dr-lee-m ... infection/
Video of Dr. Merritt below:
“Vaccine makers have designed a piece of the virus’s mRNA to replicate in every cell of your body: the spike protein. That spike protein is actually creating the pathogen in your body. They first tested these types of vaccines on animals, specifically ferrets and cats. They started with other deadly coronaviruses: for SARS, they used cats, and for MERS, they used ferrets. What happened is all the animals died, but they didn’t die of the vaccine, what they died of was called immune enhancement or antibody induced enhancement or antibody dependent enhancement. When they gave cats the SARS mRNA vaccine, instead of killing the virus or weakening it, it encoded the virus on the cat’s DNA. So the virus came into the cat’s body like a Trojan horse unseen by the cat’s own immune system and then it replicated and killed the cat with overwhelming sepsis and cardiac failure. And that happened in the ferrets, that happened every time they’ve tried this, and we have never made it through an animal study successfully for this type of virus. We have never done this in humans before.”
http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Vid ... fter-being
SARS vaccine linked to liver damage in ferret study
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspec ... rret-study
“No large trials of any mRNA vaccine have been completed yet. The only evidence on safety of mRNA vaccines comes from small phase I and phase II trials of SARS-CoV-2 vaccines, with follow-up typically less than two months.”
http://www.uphs.upenn.edu/cep/COVID/mRN ... 0final.pdf
”• Norwegian officials were the first to report people dying after being inoculated, saying in mid-January that 33 people age 75 and older had died a short time after receiving the Covid vaccine developed by Pfizer Inc. and BioNTech SE.
• The U.K.’s Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency reported that, up through Feb. 14, there were 197 deaths shortly after injections with the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, 205 from the AstraZeneca Plc shot and four where the brand was unspecified.
• In Germany... death of seven elderly people shortly after receiving the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine...
• And in the U.S., the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said that as of Feb. 7, there were 1,170 reported deaths among people who received either the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine or another from Moderna Inc.”
Dr. Lee Merritt: In Animal Studies, After Being Injected With mRNA Technology, All Animals Died Upon Reinfection... but they didn’t die of the “vaccine”. What they died from was what used to be called “immune enhancement” and now they call it “antibody dependent enhancement” (ADE). Dr. Lee Merritt explains that mRNA technology is not a vaccine, mirroring what Dr. David Martin also stated recently.
https://truth11.com/2021/01/29/dr-lee-m ... infection/
Video of Dr. Merritt below:
“Vaccine makers have designed a piece of the virus’s mRNA to replicate in every cell of your body: the spike protein. That spike protein is actually creating the pathogen in your body. They first tested these types of vaccines on animals, specifically ferrets and cats. They started with other deadly coronaviruses: for SARS, they used cats, and for MERS, they used ferrets. What happened is all the animals died, but they didn’t die of the vaccine, what they died of was called immune enhancement or antibody induced enhancement or antibody dependent enhancement. When they gave cats the SARS mRNA vaccine, instead of killing the virus or weakening it, it encoded the virus on the cat’s DNA. So the virus came into the cat’s body like a Trojan horse unseen by the cat’s own immune system and then it replicated and killed the cat with overwhelming sepsis and cardiac failure. And that happened in the ferrets, that happened every time they’ve tried this, and we have never made it through an animal study successfully for this type of virus. We have never done this in humans before.”
http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Vid ... fter-being
SARS vaccine linked to liver damage in ferret study
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspec ... rret-study
“No large trials of any mRNA vaccine have been completed yet. The only evidence on safety of mRNA vaccines comes from small phase I and phase II trials of SARS-CoV-2 vaccines, with follow-up typically less than two months.”
http://www.uphs.upenn.edu/cep/COVID/mRN ... 0final.pdf
”• Norwegian officials were the first to report people dying after being inoculated, saying in mid-January that 33 people age 75 and older had died a short time after receiving the Covid vaccine developed by Pfizer Inc. and BioNTech SE.
• The U.K.’s Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency reported that, up through Feb. 14, there were 197 deaths shortly after injections with the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, 205 from the AstraZeneca Plc shot and four where the brand was unspecified.
• In Germany... death of seven elderly people shortly after receiving the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine...
• And in the U.S., the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said that as of Feb. 7, there were 1,170 reported deaths among people who received either the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine or another from Moderna Inc.”
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I've posted hundreds of videos on this, half of which have been taken down by the enemy.Moroni104 wrote: ↑March 29th, 2021, 3:32 pm Thanks for sharing. I was able to watch.
I 100% support freedom of information and exchange of ideas and support sharing of videos like this of different opinions and viewpoints.
However, this particular video was not particularly persuasive to me. Even if the term "vaccine" is not applicable, it is unclear what the main speaker's point is, in fact he says things that seem legally correct but irrelevant. He continually implies that the product will not create an immune response, which is technically true, but not relevant because the proteins your body will make WILL cause an immune response. It seems like a hyper technical definition that doesn't aid in decision making about whether to get the shot. And from a true legal perspective, I think the speaker is actually wrong in that it could be said that legally, the pfizer or moderna treatment is a (but not "the") proximate cause of immunity because "but for" its presence, immunity would not have been acquired.
It is pretty straightforward. 1) You take this shot. 2) The mRNA causes your body to make spike proteins. 3) Your body then learns to fight the spike proteins. 4) Then your symptoms are reduced. The main speaker wants to focus on the fact that the vaccination part is only steps 1 and 2, which is technically correct, but I find irrelevant.
The last speaker, Judy Mikovitz, makes some allegations that are interesting. It would be interesting to learn more about her thoughts. If you have a video post it on here sometime.
BTW, here is an interesting rabies "vaccination" program using mRNA. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28754494/
Here is a discussion about mRNA "vaccines": https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6446947/
I sincerely am thinking this through and appreciate your posts. I am now eligible to take the shot in my state and therefore can now choose if I want to take it. I continue to lean toward taking it.
Thanks.
but you could check out here in the forum other videos that I and others have posted on this.
I really don't want to take the time, and there is other videos but here are just a few.
Dr Sherri TenPenny explains in detail how the COVID vaccine effects the body. She is an Osteopathic Medical Doctor has been in the practice of Medicine since 1985. She was a Board Certified Doctor in Emergency Medicine and a Director of Level 2 Trauma centre for 12 years. She has spent over 40,000 hours of research and writing on vaccines.
Did You Know What is in the COVID Vaccine ? And What Effect it has on Your Body ?
Listen to Dr Sherri TenPenny
https://www.brighteon.com/b7470cd7-c915 ... b439251bd7
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"don't these people realize that they are now a SLAVE to THESE CORPORATIONS - if they live ? ? ?
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"I mean this is a well designed well designed killing tool"
Dr. Sherri Tenpenny Exposes 10 Deadly Dangers of Pzifer/Johnson & Johnson Covid-19 Vaccines! - Alex Jones - Must Video
https://beforeitsnews.com/health/2021/0 ... 38264.html
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May 7th, 2020
Dr. Tenpenny: This is The Biggest Scam Ever Perpetrated on The Human Race…
https://www.bitchute.com/video/ZYECmCJ52Iai/
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they are giving you milk. if you really want to know what this vaccine is all about google this: Gain of Function- after reading what this is then go to my post on vaccine thread. I am not good at quoting scriptures, but I have been excellent at quoting news that you don't ever see on the milk alternative news. Newsweek did an article related to this: Newsweek Dr. Fauci controversial Wuhan lab. you can see that Trump stopped fauci research in the USA, so fauci went to Wuhan.
Note: This has been around a while and has been getting published in magazines and government websites for a long time. If good Christians don't know what is going on, then they cannot fight the enemy. I was hoping to post this information earlier but you guys don't believe anybody. Even the very elect. . .
Note: This has been around a while and has been getting published in magazines and government websites for a long time. If good Christians don't know what is going on, then they cannot fight the enemy. I was hoping to post this information earlier but you guys don't believe anybody. Even the very elect. . .
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Trump got the shot that was not developed in the cells of aborted fetus-Medical Institute in San Franscisco offers it and others through USInfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑March 29th, 2021, 10:27 am And the heroes of political and ecclesiastical "conservatism" are all lining up to get the shot except a small few.
For me, I learn a lot about who a person really is depending whether or not they get the shot.
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Spirit in support of your previous posts: A patent was granted to Microsoft just this month. It is for managing a crypto system through your body using nano. 060606 sre the numbers at the end of this patent for the system. Now, Id you want to know how this system works the google or search: Luciferase or luciferase and crypto system or any of these terms. The system is designed to allow the person to use their crypto if they have been following certain rules and the end result is that a light would be held up to your arm to prove compliance. Maybe it is the mark as you have suggested These are all valid articles, from MSM
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if you want to see the real dark nbehind this, after you have read the articles on the other vaccine page that I posted and these, then search: Jeffrey Epstein Island Temple- images.
Then, google Jeffrey Epstein creates his own race of people . . . -these articles are from New York Times, Fox News, Guardian - telling how he and Bill Gates are working together to create this race so sorry, this is so dark but has been going on fo0r a long time. You're now getting the meat. . . we cannot conquer evil unless we know how bad it is. I'm so sorry. I do know my identity. It's not dark, but my mission has to do with truth. Our church is so far gone. God have mercy
Then, google Jeffrey Epstein creates his own race of people . . . -these articles are from New York Times, Fox News, Guardian - telling how he and Bill Gates are working together to create this race so sorry, this is so dark but has been going on fo0r a long time. You're now getting the meat. . . we cannot conquer evil unless we know how bad it is. I'm so sorry. I do know my identity. It's not dark, but my mission has to do with truth. Our church is so far gone. God have mercy
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after you have read all of the articles on this post and my other post on the vaccine thread then, please do not be fearful. You will see that: 1. those evil planned a fear tactic with this covid - fear started with telling how many would die-lies to scare us 2..PCR tests are NOT valid 3. we CAN take a treatment that has a record of 0% deaths 4. this has been a well prepared and ongoing plan for some time 5. we have the power to stop this personally, I just want to sit this one out- I don't want to believe this is true, but I have to pick a side. I don't know what God would want you to do but please pray and remember he has promised us help when we fear
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I haven't seen funeral parlors over run, have you? normal amount of death they lied to us about hospitals- something is fishy with Cuomo lies
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Spirit- all of your posts are milk - - here's some meat
go to website "time to free America.com" hit icon "The Great Reset" short version from Rockefeller - been around 10 years at least
or for the long version get the book "The Great Reset" by Claus Schwabb you may also find an article here:"The truth about Fauci" also "Truth about models" stating how many people are supposed to die
check this out: google these words: "Gain of function" articles show up and Wikipedia- check it out on NIH website also
google: newsweek (magazine) doctor "fauci backed controversial Wuhan lab - Trump banned the research in the USA so Fauci took it to Wuhan
google: "Fresh but Never Frozen Humanized Mice" talks about scientist In the USA given permission to use FRESH aborted fetus cells(cut from living babies while they were still alive- usually from brain through the face or the heart) to mix with mice Our scientists are sick people
google -Judiciah watch sues dr fauci
google: Neil Ferguson- Abduhl Gameal Institute funded by Amazon
google: Kary Mullis PCR test btw he died Aug 7, 2019 - was trying to warn about Fauci in his interviews which you can find using his name-
Hydroxyclorchrine, Ivermectin, Budesonide can be used successfully according to CDC )% deaths using any of these three to treat, but they have been banned-go figure
Hydro is best but you can get Budesinide on this web: Budesonideworks.com dr. in your state can prescribe
I have more but don't want to scare you and overwhelm you. This pandemic bs is not simple
This way then you can get several articles- I did attach this article showing government websites
Gain of Function Research Gone Bad
by Heraclitus/
September 13, 2020
Here is a question. On January 9th, 11 days prior to the inauguration, the Obama Administration felt strongly enough about GOF research that they published this guidance. Why was this so important to them to get done prior to the change of government?
In the answer to that question, we now suspect, lies the seeds of everything that now has come to pass, and perhaps the likely outcome of the coming election.
Obama White House GOF deliberation announcement https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/bl ... n-research
NIH Pause Announcement http://www.phe.gov/s3/dualuse/Documents ... nction.pdf
Obama White House Final Statement https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/bl ... -oversight
Obama White House Policy Guidance on PPP potential GOF researchhttps://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/sites/default/files/microsites/ostp/p3co-finalguidancestatement.pdf
Guidelines for Dual Use Research of Concern http://www.phe.gov/s3/dualuse/Documents ... -guide.pdf
Biden responsible for China’s entry into the WTO as Chair of Senate Foreign Relations Committee 2001 https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/06/us/p ... china.html
Dr. Baric’s thoughts in 2014. https://www.npr.org/sections/health-sho ... s-research
Something going on in China in November https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/intelli ... d=70031273
Fauci weighed in in 2012, he knew all about it https://mbio.asm.org/content/3/5/e00359-12
Why didn’t he ever share his concerns with the American public now?
The SARS-CoV-2 pandemic supports the thesis that the moratorium on Gain-Of-Function experiments with infectious agents of pandemic potential was unwise.
(1) We did not need GOF experiments to tell us that zoonoses of an animal coronavirus had pandemic potential.
(2) Most GOF experiments with coronaviruses would not have permitted us to develop vaccines or therapeutics any faster than we are now doing. Consider what in hindsight would have been the most obvious GOF experiment with a bat coronavirus — insertion of a polybasic cleavage site. Acquisition of the PCS by SARS-CoV-2 almost certainly has been important for human-to-human transmission, but it’s not a useful target for vaccines and even if targeting the host-cell proteases that cleave the PCS proves to be useful, we didn’t need GOF experiments to tell us this.
(3) If we had done GOF experiments with animal coronaviruses and found the mutated viruses to be more transmissible in an optimized animal model, it is unlikely to have had sufficient influence to increase research funding and therefore would have not increased pandemic preparedness in the way that you envision.
(4) There’s a good argument that we should have invested more in pan-coronavirus drug development, but again, you don’t need GOF experiments for that. Maybe you need chimeric viruses for animal testing, but I don’t know if these qualify as GOF, and it’s not obvious to me that these are critical path experiments.
In summary, we still think the onus is on GOF supporters to provide solid and specific arguments that the benefits outweigh the risks.
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go to website "time to free America.com" hit icon "The Great Reset" short version from Rockefeller - been around 10 years at least
or for the long version get the book "The Great Reset" by Claus Schwabb you may also find an article here:"The truth about Fauci" also "Truth about models" stating how many people are supposed to die
check this out: google these words: "Gain of function" articles show up and Wikipedia- check it out on NIH website also
google: newsweek (magazine) doctor "fauci backed controversial Wuhan lab - Trump banned the research in the USA so Fauci took it to Wuhan
google: "Fresh but Never Frozen Humanized Mice" talks about scientist In the USA given permission to use FRESH aborted fetus cells(cut from living babies while they were still alive- usually from brain through the face or the heart) to mix with mice Our scientists are sick people
google -Judiciah watch sues dr fauci
google: Neil Ferguson- Abduhl Gameal Institute funded by Amazon
google: Kary Mullis PCR test btw he died Aug 7, 2019 - was trying to warn about Fauci in his interviews which you can find using his name-
Hydroxyclorchrine, Ivermectin, Budesonide can be used successfully according to CDC )% deaths using any of these three to treat, but they have been banned-go figure
Hydro is best but you can get Budesinide on this web: Budesonideworks.com dr. in your state can prescribe
I have more but don't want to scare you and overwhelm you. This pandemic bs is not simple
This way then you can get several articles- I did attach this article showing government websites
Gain of Function Research Gone Bad
by Heraclitus/
September 13, 2020
Here is a question. On January 9th, 11 days prior to the inauguration, the Obama Administration felt strongly enough about GOF research that they published this guidance. Why was this so important to them to get done prior to the change of government?
In the answer to that question, we now suspect, lies the seeds of everything that now has come to pass, and perhaps the likely outcome of the coming election.
Obama White House GOF deliberation announcement https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/bl ... n-research
NIH Pause Announcement http://www.phe.gov/s3/dualuse/Documents ... nction.pdf
Obama White House Final Statement https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/bl ... -oversight
Obama White House Policy Guidance on PPP potential GOF researchhttps://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/sites/default/files/microsites/ostp/p3co-finalguidancestatement.pdf
Guidelines for Dual Use Research of Concern http://www.phe.gov/s3/dualuse/Documents ... -guide.pdf
Biden responsible for China’s entry into the WTO as Chair of Senate Foreign Relations Committee 2001 https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/06/us/p ... china.html
Dr. Baric’s thoughts in 2014. https://www.npr.org/sections/health-sho ... s-research
Something going on in China in November https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/intelli ... d=70031273
Fauci weighed in in 2012, he knew all about it https://mbio.asm.org/content/3/5/e00359-12
Why didn’t he ever share his concerns with the American public now?
The SARS-CoV-2 pandemic supports the thesis that the moratorium on Gain-Of-Function experiments with infectious agents of pandemic potential was unwise.
(1) We did not need GOF experiments to tell us that zoonoses of an animal coronavirus had pandemic potential.
(2) Most GOF experiments with coronaviruses would not have permitted us to develop vaccines or therapeutics any faster than we are now doing. Consider what in hindsight would have been the most obvious GOF experiment with a bat coronavirus — insertion of a polybasic cleavage site. Acquisition of the PCS by SARS-CoV-2 almost certainly has been important for human-to-human transmission, but it’s not a useful target for vaccines and even if targeting the host-cell proteases that cleave the PCS proves to be useful, we didn’t need GOF experiments to tell us this.
(3) If we had done GOF experiments with animal coronaviruses and found the mutated viruses to be more transmissible in an optimized animal model, it is unlikely to have had sufficient influence to increase research funding and therefore would have not increased pandemic preparedness in the way that you envision.
(4) There’s a good argument that we should have invested more in pan-coronavirus drug development, but again, you don’t need GOF experiments for that. Maybe you need chimeric viruses for animal testing, but I don’t know if these qualify as GOF, and it’s not obvious to me that these are critical path experiments.
In summary, we still think the onus is on GOF supporters to provide solid and specific arguments that the benefits outweigh the risks.
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Re: This is NOT a Vaccine !
"For me, I learn a lot about who a person really is depending whether or not they..."InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑March 29th, 2021, 11:53 amActually... yes.GüdFüdDude wrote: ↑March 29th, 2021, 10:42 amEmerson, ~1850s: "If we encounter a man of rare intellect, we should ask him what books he reads."InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑March 29th, 2021, 10:27 am For me, I learn a lot about who a person really is depending whether or not they get the shot.
Trump...
Neslon...
IW, 2021: "If we encounter a man of unknown intellect, we should ask him whether or not they got the shot."
got the shot
wear a mask
watch a lot of tv/talk about it
read frivolous stuff
don't work out
eat like most people
talk too much
admire moronic people
etc
Sometimes this is mean and unfair, and we don't speak out loud the undercurrent of thoughts we have, but they are there.
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Re: This is NOT a Vaccine !
Sadly after the coronavirus shots, Websters actually added a new definition to the word vaccine to accommodate the mRNA vaccines.
b: a preparation of genetic material (such as a strand of synthesized messenger RNA) that is used by the cells of the body to produce an antigenic substance (such as a fragment of virus spike protein)
b: a preparation of genetic material (such as a strand of synthesized messenger RNA) that is used by the cells of the body to produce an antigenic substance (such as a fragment of virus spike protein)
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Re: This is NOT a Vaccine !
I’m remembering parents getting arrested for taking their kids to park after being ratted on by neighbors... & a mother outside not wearing mask at school stadium - tazed by police not wearing masks.
” COVID-19 Community Corps, enlisting people to help their friends, family and neighbors make appointments and get access to vaccines.
On a recent evening, Surgeon General Vivek Murthy led a Zoom call for people who have signed up to help. "I just want to remind you again, which we will keep doing again and again and again, that this is not just a government-driven effort," he said.
"It's about creating a community where we can celebrate what people are doing," Murthy said...
https://www.opb.org/article/2021/04/23/ ... -campaign/
God help us.
” COVID-19 Community Corps, enlisting people to help their friends, family and neighbors make appointments and get access to vaccines.
On a recent evening, Surgeon General Vivek Murthy led a Zoom call for people who have signed up to help. "I just want to remind you again, which we will keep doing again and again and again, that this is not just a government-driven effort," he said.
"It's about creating a community where we can celebrate what people are doing," Murthy said...
https://www.opb.org/article/2021/04/23/ ... -campaign/
God help us.
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Re: This is NOT a Vaccine !
I just want to know why they still aren't letting kids get the vaccine? There's no longer a shortage and hasn't been for some time.
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