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franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 3rd, 2021, 2:42 pm "We need an audit!"

"Okay. Here you go."

"Well, obviously the results of the audit aren't going to prove anything."

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 3rd, 2021, 2:42 pm "We need an audit!"

"Okay. Here you go."

"Well, obviously the results of the audit aren't going to prove anything."

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑May 12th, 2021, 1:58 pm

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 3rd, 2021, 2:42 pm "We need an audit!"

"Okay. Here you go."

"Well, obviously the results of the audit aren't going to prove anything."

Most likely a deep state psy-op. All for the purpose of "legitimizing" the stolen election in the minds of the world. I'm 99% sure that nothing will come of this.


Let's discuss what it would mean if, let's say, they found massive election fraud leading to a reversal of the election results in Arizona.

In theory, it would lead to more states demanding an audit of their ballots. Especially certain swing states where things looked a bit fishy.

In theory, it would lead to multiple state election results being reversed.

In theory, it would lead to people being arrested and put in prison.

In theory, it would lead to a "redo" of the general election.

In theory, it would lead to Republicans in local & state positions taking back the supermajority in Congress.

In theory, it would lead to Donald Trump being re-elected as president.

But most of all, this would lead to an unraveling of the gadiantons. Exposing all of their crimes. (9/11, covid19, etc.)



What are the odds of all of this actually happening?

mudflap wrote: ↑May 12th, 2021, 2:00 pm

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑May 12th, 2021, 1:58 pm

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 3rd, 2021, 2:42 pm "We need an audit!"

"Okay. Here you go."

"Well, obviously the results of the audit aren't going to prove anything."

Most likely a deep state psy-op. All for the purpose of "legitimizing" the stolen election in the minds of the world. I'm 99% sure that nothing will come of this.


Let's discuss what it would mean if, let's say, they found massive election fraud leading to a reversal of the election results in Arizona.

In theory, it would lead to more states demanding an audit of their ballots. Especially certain swing states where things looked a bit fishy.

In theory, it would lead to multiple state election results being reversed.

In theory, it would lead to people being arrested and put in prison.

In theory, it would lead to a "redo" of the general election.

In theory, it would lead to Republicans in local & state positions taking back the supermajority in Congress.

In theory, it would lead to Donald Trump being re-elected as president.

But most of all, this would lead to an unraveling of the gadiantons. Exposing all of their crimes. (9/11, covid19, etc.)



What are the odds of all of this actually happening?

I can't believe we have to spell this out, InfoWarrior, but here we are.....

mudflap wrote: ↑May 12th, 2021, 1:50 pm

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 3rd, 2021, 2:42 pm "We need an audit!"

"Okay. Here you go."

"Well, obviously the results of the audit aren't going to prove anything."

how convenient of you to leave out the part where the audit gets compromised.....or maricopa county refuses a lawful order to participate....

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑May 12th, 2021, 1:58 pm

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 3rd, 2021, 2:42 pm "We need an audit!"

"Okay. Here you go."

"Well, obviously the results of the audit aren't going to prove anything."

Most likely a deep state psy-op. All for the purpose of "legitimizing" the stolen election in the minds of the world. I'm 99% sure that nothing will come of this.


Let's discuss what it would mean if, let's say, they found massive election fraud leading to a reversal of the election results in Arizona.

In theory, it would lead to more states demanding an audit of their ballots. Especially certain swing states where things looked a bit fishy.

In theory, it would lead to multiple state election results being reversed.

In theory, it would lead to people being arrested and put in prison.

In theory, it would lead to a "redo" of the general election.

In theory, it would lead to Republicans in local & state positions taking back the supermajority in Congress.

In theory, it would lead to Donald Trump being re-elected as president.

But most of all, this would lead to an unraveling of the gadiantons. Exposing all of their crimes. (9/11, covid19, etc.)



What are the odds of all of this actually happening?

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑May 12th, 2021, 2:12 pm

mudflap wrote: ↑May 12th, 2021, 2:00 pm

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑May 12th, 2021, 1:58 pm

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 3rd, 2021, 2:42 pm "We need an audit!"

"Okay. Here you go."

"Well, obviously the results of the audit aren't going to prove anything."

Most likely a deep state psy-op. All for the purpose of "legitimizing" the stolen election in the minds of the world. I'm 99% sure that nothing will come of this.


Let's discuss what it would mean if, let's say, they found massive election fraud leading to a reversal of the election results in Arizona.

In theory, it would lead to more states demanding an audit of their ballots. Especially certain swing states where things looked a bit fishy.

In theory, it would lead to multiple state election results being reversed.

In theory, it would lead to people being arrested and put in prison.

In theory, it would lead to a "redo" of the general election.

In theory, it would lead to Republicans in local & state positions taking back the supermajority in Congress.

In theory, it would lead to Donald Trump being re-elected as president.

But most of all, this would lead to an unraveling of the gadiantons. Exposing all of their crimes. (9/11, covid19, etc.)



What are the odds of all of this actually happening?

I can't believe we have to spell this out, InfoWarrior, but here we are.....

People really want an alternate ending to this movie sooooooo bad. They delude themselves into believing that there will be no tribulations. "All is well!" or the modern version "i'M sO cOzY!" They choose to believe this because they can't imagine a world without electricity, grocery stores, mani-pedis, hot showers, toilets that flush...

All I have to say to those people is: Start imagining it.

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 12th, 2021, 2:53 pm

If it means nothing, then why did so many push for it for months?

We have redone an election when fraud was shown. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47323556

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 12th, 2021, 2:55 pm

It's a favorite accusation on this forum to say that others are saying "All is well." Who's saying that?

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑May 12th, 2021, 2:59 pm

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 12th, 2021, 2:53 pm

If it means nothing, then why did so many push for it for months?

We have redone an election when fraud was shown. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47323556

Because they knew that people would want an audit done, so the deep state cooked one up for us. Set up to backfire on Trump supporters is my theory.

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 12th, 2021, 2:55 pm

It's a favorite accusation on this forum to say that others are saying "All is well." Who's saying that?

A few believe that "all is well in Zion" on this forum.. but mainly, I'm referring to what I lovingly call Qanon people (Q-Tards) out there in the general public.

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 12th, 2021, 3:27 pm

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑May 12th, 2021, 2:59 pm

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 12th, 2021, 2:53 pm

If it means nothing, then why did so many push for it for months?

We have redone an election when fraud was shown. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47323556

Because they knew that people would want an audit done, so the deep state cooked one up for us. Set up to backfire on Trump supporters is my theory.

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 12th, 2021, 2:55 pm

It's a favorite accusation on this forum to say that others are saying "All is well." Who's saying that?

A few believe that "all is well in Zion" on this forum.. but mainly, I'm referring to what I lovingly call Qanon people (Q-Tards) out there in the general public.

I'm not saying why did they do the audit, I'm saying why did so many Trump supporters call for an audit to now just reject it?

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 12th, 2021, 2:51 pm

mudflap wrote: ↑May 12th, 2021, 1:50 pm

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 3rd, 2021, 2:42 pm "We need an audit!"

"Okay. Here you go."

"Well, obviously the results of the audit aren't going to prove anything."

how convenient of you to leave out the part where the audit gets compromised.....or maricopa county refuses a lawful order to participate....

The county resisted, then the state Senate got the ballots. https://www.knau.org/post/az-republican ... pa-ballots

What's the problem? How did it get compromised?

Breaking Update: Maricopa County deleted a directory full of election databases from the 2020 election cycle days before the election equipment was delivered to the audit. This is spoliation of evidence!

I guess that proves it wasn't rigged....

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑May 13th, 2021, 11:17 am https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/0 ... -database/

JK4Woods wrote: ↑May 13th, 2021, 1:07 pm

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑May 13th, 2021, 11:17 am https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/0 ... -database/

Well, being dumb government officials, they probably think hitting "Delete" actually gets rid of the file....
I bet the forensics audit team can recover every bit of missing information....

mudflap wrote: ↑May 13th, 2021, 12:34 pm

I guess that proves it wasn't rigged....

(progressive/elitist thought process)

mudflap wrote: ↑May 14th, 2021, 9:49 am MOAR bubbling up from AZ:



Someone show me where it's "Baseless"... point by point, please.

Senate President Fann,

We write in response to your May 12, 2021 letter. We also write in response to the May 12th social media post from the Twitter account, run by you or your designee/s, which accused Maricopa County of “deleting a directory full of databases from the 2020 election cycle days before the election equipment was delivered to the audit,” and went on to accuse the County of “spoliation of evidence.”

These accusations are false, defamatory, and beneath the dignity of the Senate. They are an insult to the dedicated public servants in the Maricopa County Elections Department and Office of the Recorder, who work incredibly
long hours conducting the County’s elections with integrity and honor.

1. Your accusation, that Maricopa County deleted data, is false. You claim “the entire ‘Database’ directory from the D drive of the machine EMSPrimary has been deleted.” This is false: the “Database” was not deleted from the server. And an analysis of the screenshot you provided (the “screenshot”), which we reproduce below, further proves that fact.

We demand that you immediately rescind your false and malicious tweet asserting that Maricopa County “spoiled evidence” in the days before we provided the server to the Senate. Your tweet, which relies on the “modified date” shown in the screenshot as evidence of wrongdoing, is demonstrably false; the only thing it does demonstrate is your auditors’ incompetence.

Their stunning lack of a basic understanding for how their software works is egregious and only made worse by the false tweet sent defaming the hardworking employees of Maricopa County.
That the Senate would launch such a grave accusation via Twitter not only before waiting for an answer to your questions, but also before your so called “audit” demonstrates to the world that the Arizona Senate is not acting in good faith, has no intention of learning anything about the November 2020 General Election, but is only interested in feeding the various festering
conspiracy theories that fuel the fundraising schemes of those pulling your strings. You have rented out the once good name of the Arizona State Senate to grifters and con-artists, who are fundraising hard-earned money from our fellow citizens even as your contractors parade around the Coliseum, hunting for bamboo and something they call “kinematic artifacts”
while shining purple lights for effect. None of these things are done in a serious audit. The result is that the Arizona Senate is held up to ridicule in every corner of the globe and our democracy is imperiled.

On April 12, 2021, the Elections Department shut down the server to be packed up and made ready for delivery to the Senate. At no point was any data deleted when shutting down the server and packing up the equipment. Windows Servers will often change the “metadata” (additional data on files such as creation date, access date, modified date, owner, etc.) on Microsoft SQL database files based on actions performed on the Microsoft SQL (MSQL) Services that are needed to run the databases.

The modified dates on the files are identical in the screen shots because that is when the server was shut down, and the (MSQL) services themselves were shut down, causing the server to update the metadata on all the files to the specific time when the services were shut down. Nothing was “deleted” on April 12, 2021. Maricopa County provided you the actual Dominion server as commanded by your subpoena and we did not transfer or delete from that server any data from the 2020 General Election that was subject to your subpoena. You have now returned that server to us. Evidently your “auditors” made a copy of that server and are conducting their analysis on the copy.

The screenshot reveals that your “auditors” were using R-Studio Network Technician to conduct their analysis. That software is used to identify files that are missing at the spot the software is told to search. Yet you provided the screenshot falsely asserting that these identified “missing files” were deleted and evidence was “spoiled”. Nothing in this screenshot indicates that
any file was deleted or spoiled. At most what can be discerned from this screenshot is that R-Studio, as used by your “auditors,” did not locate within the copy your vendor created the particular files listed in the column on the right.

Still, these files, and the Database, have the ominous red X-mark. We cannot say for certain what that mark indicates—other than that it likely indicates that R-Studio was unable to locate the files. The screenshot does not identify
what type of search your “auditors” ran, and you conveniently failed to provide the full report the search generated. However, the table at the bottom of the screenshot appears to indicate that certain data is missing because it
“extends beyond disk bounds” of the copied hard drive searched. Perhaps these files have the red X-mark because your “auditors” copied them to a segment of the hard drive that, in lay terms, is unreadable by the R-Studio software. Or because your “auditors” set the R-Studio search parameters incorrectly, such that it searched for these files in an area of the hard drive where they do not reside. There could be other explanations as well, including the possibility that your “auditors” inadvertently, or purposefully, moved—or even deleted—certain data.

Regardless, the failure of your so called “auditors” to locate data files on the copy they made of the County’s server speaks more to their ineptitude than it does to the integrity and actions of our dedicated public employees who effectively and accurately run the elections in the fourth largest county in the United States.

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 17th, 2021, 4:07 pm

mudflap wrote: ↑May 14th, 2021, 9:49 am MOAR bubbling up from AZ:



Someone show me where it's "Baseless"... point by point, please.

The county has given it's response:
https://t.co/ZiGPhahU6y?amp=1

Senate President Fann,

We write in response to your May 12, 2021 letter. We also write in response to the May 12th social media post from the Twitter account, run by you or your designee/s, which accused Maricopa County of “deleting a directory full of databases from the 2020 election cycle days before the election equipment was delivered to the audit,” and went on to accuse the County of “spoliation of evidence.”

These accusations are false, defamatory, and beneath the dignity of the Senate. They are an insult to the dedicated public servants in the Maricopa County Elections Department and Office of the Recorder, who work incredibly
long hours conducting the County’s elections with integrity and honor.

1. Your accusation, that Maricopa County deleted data, is false. You claim “the entire ‘Database’ directory from the D drive of the machine EMSPrimary has been deleted.” This is false: the “Database” was not deleted from the server. And an analysis of the screenshot you provided (the “screenshot”), which we reproduce below, further proves that fact.

We demand that you immediately rescind your false and malicious tweet asserting that Maricopa County “spoiled evidence” in the days before we provided the server to the Senate. Your tweet, which relies on the “modified date” shown in the screenshot as evidence of wrongdoing, is demonstrably false; the only thing it does demonstrate is your auditors’ incompetence.

Their stunning lack of a basic understanding for how their software works is egregious and only made worse by the false tweet sent defaming the hardworking employees of Maricopa County.
That the Senate would launch such a grave accusation via Twitter not only before waiting for an answer to your questions, but also before your so called “audit” demonstrates to the world that the Arizona Senate is not acting in good faith, has no intention of learning anything about the November 2020 General Election, but is only interested in feeding the various festering
conspiracy theories that fuel the fundraising schemes of those pulling your strings. You have rented out the once good name of the Arizona State Senate to grifters and con-artists, who are fundraising hard-earned money from our fellow citizens even as your contractors parade around the Coliseum, hunting for bamboo and something they call “kinematic artifacts”
while shining purple lights for effect. None of these things are done in a serious audit. The result is that the Arizona Senate is held up to ridicule in every corner of the globe and our democracy is imperiled.

On April 12, 2021, the Elections Department shut down the server to be packed up and made ready for delivery to the Senate. At no point was any data deleted when shutting down the server and packing up the equipment. Windows Servers will often change the “metadata” (additional data on files such as creation date, access date, modified date, owner, etc.) on Microsoft SQL database files based on actions performed on the Microsoft SQL (MSQL) Services that are needed to run the databases.

The modified dates on the files are identical in the screen shots because that is when the server was shut down, and the (MSQL) services themselves were shut down, causing the server to update the metadata on all the files to the specific time when the services were shut down. Nothing was “deleted” on April 12, 2021. Maricopa County provided you the actual Dominion server as commanded by your subpoena and we did not transfer or delete from that server any data from the 2020 General Election that was subject to your subpoena. You have now returned that server to us. Evidently your “auditors” made a copy of that server and are conducting their analysis on the copy.

The screenshot reveals that your “auditors” were using R-Studio Network Technician to conduct their analysis. That software is used to identify files that are missing at the spot the software is told to search. Yet you provided the screenshot falsely asserting that these identified “missing files” were deleted and evidence was “spoiled”. Nothing in this screenshot indicates that
any file was deleted or spoiled. At most what can be discerned from this screenshot is that R-Studio, as used by your “auditors,” did not locate within the copy your vendor created the particular files listed in the column on the right.

Still, these files, and the Database, have the ominous red X-mark. We cannot say for certain what that mark indicates—other than that it likely indicates that R-Studio was unable to locate the files. The screenshot does not identify
what type of search your “auditors” ran, and you conveniently failed to provide the full report the search generated. However, the table at the bottom of the screenshot appears to indicate that certain data is missing because it
“extends beyond disk bounds” of the copied hard drive searched. Perhaps these files have the red X-mark because your “auditors” copied them to a segment of the hard drive that, in lay terms, is unreadable by the R-Studio software. Or because your “auditors” set the R-Studio search parameters incorrectly, such that it searched for these files in an area of the hard drive where they do not reside. There could be other explanations as well, including the possibility that your “auditors” inadvertently, or purposefully, moved—or even deleted—certain data.

Regardless, the failure of your so called “auditors” to locate data files on the copy they made of the County’s server speaks more to their ineptitude than it does to the integrity and actions of our dedicated public employees who effectively and accurately run the elections in the fourth largest county in the United States.

We will not provide your “auditors” access to the County’s
routers because doing so would compromise the security of the
County’s network, which in turn could compromise the security of
sensitive, protected and critical data.