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mudflap wrote: ↑May 17th, 2021, 8:19 pm

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 17th, 2021, 4:07 pm

mudflap wrote: ↑May 14th, 2021, 9:49 am MOAR bubbling up from AZ:



Someone show me where it's "Baseless"... point by point, please.

The county has given it's response:
https://t.co/ZiGPhahU6y?amp=1

Senate President Fann,

We write in response to your May 12, 2021 letter. We also write in response to the May 12th social media post from the Twitter account, run by you or your designee/s, which accused Maricopa County of “deleting a directory full of databases from the 2020 election cycle days before the election equipment was delivered to the audit,” and went on to accuse the County of “spoliation of evidence.”

These accusations are false, defamatory, and beneath the dignity of the Senate. They are an insult to the dedicated public servants in the Maricopa County Elections Department and Office of the Recorder, who work incredibly
long hours conducting the County’s elections with integrity and honor.

1. Your accusation, that Maricopa County deleted data, is false. You claim “the entire ‘Database’ directory from the D drive of the machine EMSPrimary has been deleted.” This is false: the “Database” was not deleted from the server. And an analysis of the screenshot you provided (the “screenshot”), which we reproduce below, further proves that fact.

We demand that you immediately rescind your false and malicious tweet asserting that Maricopa County “spoiled evidence” in the days before we provided the server to the Senate. Your tweet, which relies on the “modified date” shown in the screenshot as evidence of wrongdoing, is demonstrably false; the only thing it does demonstrate is your auditors’ incompetence.

Their stunning lack of a basic understanding for how their software works is egregious and only made worse by the false tweet sent defaming the hardworking employees of Maricopa County.
That the Senate would launch such a grave accusation via Twitter not only before waiting for an answer to your questions, but also before your so called “audit” demonstrates to the world that the Arizona Senate is not acting in good faith, has no intention of learning anything about the November 2020 General Election, but is only interested in feeding the various festering
conspiracy theories that fuel the fundraising schemes of those pulling your strings. You have rented out the once good name of the Arizona State Senate to grifters and con-artists, who are fundraising hard-earned money from our fellow citizens even as your contractors parade around the Coliseum, hunting for bamboo and something they call “kinematic artifacts”
while shining purple lights for effect. None of these things are done in a serious audit. The result is that the Arizona Senate is held up to ridicule in every corner of the globe and our democracy is imperiled.

On April 12, 2021, the Elections Department shut down the server to be packed up and made ready for delivery to the Senate. At no point was any data deleted when shutting down the server and packing up the equipment. Windows Servers will often change the “metadata” (additional data on files such as creation date, access date, modified date, owner, etc.) on Microsoft SQL database files based on actions performed on the Microsoft SQL (MSQL) Services that are needed to run the databases.

The modified dates on the files are identical in the screen shots because that is when the server was shut down, and the (MSQL) services themselves were shut down, causing the server to update the metadata on all the files to the specific time when the services were shut down. Nothing was “deleted” on April 12, 2021. Maricopa County provided you the actual Dominion server as commanded by your subpoena and we did not transfer or delete from that server any data from the 2020 General Election that was subject to your subpoena. You have now returned that server to us. Evidently your “auditors” made a copy of that server and are conducting their analysis on the copy.

The screenshot reveals that your “auditors” were using R-Studio Network Technician to conduct their analysis. That software is used to identify files that are missing at the spot the software is told to search. Yet you provided the screenshot falsely asserting that these identified “missing files” were deleted and evidence was “spoiled”. Nothing in this screenshot indicates that
any file was deleted or spoiled. At most what can be discerned from this screenshot is that R-Studio, as used by your “auditors,” did not locate within the copy your vendor created the particular files listed in the column on the right.

Still, these files, and the Database, have the ominous red X-mark. We cannot say for certain what that mark indicates—other than that it likely indicates that R-Studio was unable to locate the files. The screenshot does not identify
what type of search your “auditors” ran, and you conveniently failed to provide the full report the search generated. However, the table at the bottom of the screenshot appears to indicate that certain data is missing because it
“extends beyond disk bounds” of the copied hard drive searched. Perhaps these files have the red X-mark because your “auditors” copied them to a segment of the hard drive that, in lay terms, is unreadable by the R-Studio software. Or because your “auditors” set the R-Studio search parameters incorrectly, such that it searched for these files in an area of the hard drive where they do not reside. There could be other explanations as well, including the possibility that your “auditors” inadvertently, or purposefully, moved—or even deleted—certain data.

Regardless, the failure of your so called “auditors” to locate data files on the copy they made of the County’s server speaks more to their ineptitude than it does to the integrity and actions of our dedicated public employees who effectively and accurately run the elections in the fourth largest county in the United States.

wow. that is the snarkiest letter I've ever read from an elected official.

wow.

this part sticks out though:

We will not provide your “auditors” access to the County’s
routers because doing so would compromise the security of the
County’s network, which in turn could compromise the security of
sensitive, protected and critical data.

since when are public voting records sensitive, protected, and critical data? California had no problem releasing every person's name who signed proposition 8 against Gay marriage a few years ago. My uncle was on that list and was harassed for years because he signed it.

I think that letter displays the height of hubris.

I don't think that's the end of the matter.

mudflap wrote: ↑May 17th, 2021, 9:06 pm I used to be a teacher, so I know all the ways to be defiant - these guys are guilty of using at least two methods:
- slow walking.
- temper tantrum.

like I said, this is not over.

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 17th, 2021, 11:06 pm

mudflap wrote: ↑May 17th, 2021, 9:06 pm I used to be a teacher, so I know all the ways to be defiant - these guys are guilty of using at least two methods:
- slow walking.
- temper tantrum.

like I said, this is not over.

They provided all of the ballots and all of the voter data. What are they slow walking?

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 17th, 2021, 4:07 pm

mudflap wrote: ↑May 14th, 2021, 9:49 am MOAR bubbling up from AZ:



Someone show me where it's "Baseless"... point by point, please.

The county has given it's response:
https://t.co/ZiGPhahU6y?amp=1

Senate President Fann,

We write in response to your May 12, 2021 letter. We also write in response to the May 12th social media post from the Twitter account, run by you or your designee/s, which accused Maricopa County of “deleting a directory full of databases from the 2020 election cycle days before the election equipment was delivered to the audit,” and went on to accuse the County of “spoliation of evidence.”

These accusations are false, defamatory, and beneath the dignity of the Senate. They are an insult to the dedicated public servants in the Maricopa County Elections Department and Office of the Recorder, who work incredibly
long hours conducting the County’s elections with integrity and honor.

1. Your accusation, that Maricopa County deleted data, is false. You claim “the entire ‘Database’ directory from the D drive of the machine EMSPrimary has been deleted.” This is false: the “Database” was not deleted from the server. And an analysis of the screenshot you provided (the “screenshot”), which we reproduce below, further proves that fact.

We demand that you immediately rescind your false and malicious tweet asserting that Maricopa County “spoiled evidence” in the days before we provided the server to the Senate. Your tweet, which relies on the “modified date” shown in the screenshot as evidence of wrongdoing, is demonstrably false; the only thing it does demonstrate is your auditors’ incompetence.

Their stunning lack of a basic understanding for how their software works is egregious and only made worse by the false tweet sent defaming the hardworking employees of Maricopa County.
That the Senate would launch such a grave accusation via Twitter not only before waiting for an answer to your questions, but also before your so called “audit” demonstrates to the world that the Arizona Senate is not acting in good faith, has no intention of learning anything about the November 2020 General Election, but is only interested in feeding the various festering
conspiracy theories that fuel the fundraising schemes of those pulling your strings. You have rented out the once good name of the Arizona State Senate to grifters and con-artists, who are fundraising hard-earned money from our fellow citizens even as your contractors parade around the Coliseum, hunting for bamboo and something they call “kinematic artifacts”
while shining purple lights for effect. None of these things are done in a serious audit. The result is that the Arizona Senate is held up to ridicule in every corner of the globe and our democracy is imperiled.

On April 12, 2021, the Elections Department shut down the server to be packed up and made ready for delivery to the Senate. At no point was any data deleted when shutting down the server and packing up the equipment. Windows Servers will often change the “metadata” (additional data on files such as creation date, access date, modified date, owner, etc.) on Microsoft SQL database files based on actions performed on the Microsoft SQL (MSQL) Services that are needed to run the databases.

The modified dates on the files are identical in the screen shots because that is when the server was shut down, and the (MSQL) services themselves were shut down, causing the server to update the metadata on all the files to the specific time when the services were shut down. Nothing was “deleted” on April 12, 2021. Maricopa County provided you the actual Dominion server as commanded by your subpoena and we did not transfer or delete from that server any data from the 2020 General Election that was subject to your subpoena. You have now returned that server to us. Evidently your “auditors” made a copy of that server and are conducting their analysis on the copy.

The screenshot reveals that your “auditors” were using R-Studio Network Technician to conduct their analysis. That software is used to identify files that are missing at the spot the software is told to search. Yet you provided the screenshot falsely asserting that these identified “missing files” were deleted and evidence was “spoiled”. Nothing in this screenshot indicates that
any file was deleted or spoiled. At most what can be discerned from this screenshot is that R-Studio, as used by your “auditors,” did not locate within the copy your vendor created the particular files listed in the column on the right.

Still, these files, and the Database, have the ominous red X-mark. We cannot say for certain what that mark indicates—other than that it likely indicates that R-Studio was unable to locate the files. The screenshot does not identify
what type of search your “auditors” ran, and you conveniently failed to provide the full report the search generated. However, the table at the bottom of the screenshot appears to indicate that certain data is missing because it
“extends beyond disk bounds” of the copied hard drive searched. Perhaps these files have the red X-mark because your “auditors” copied them to a segment of the hard drive that, in lay terms, is unreadable by the R-Studio software. Or because your “auditors” set the R-Studio search parameters incorrectly, such that it searched for these files in an area of the hard drive where they do not reside. There could be other explanations as well, including the possibility that your “auditors” inadvertently, or purposefully, moved—or even deleted—certain data.

Regardless, the failure of your so called “auditors” to locate data files on the copy they made of the County’s server speaks more to their ineptitude than it does to the integrity and actions of our dedicated public employees who effectively and accurately run the elections in the fourth largest county in the United States.

mudflap wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 6:02 am

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 17th, 2021, 11:06 pm

mudflap wrote: ↑May 17th, 2021, 9:06 pm I used to be a teacher, so I know all the ways to be defiant - these guys are guilty of using at least two methods:
- slow walking.
- temper tantrum.

like I said, this is not over.

They provided all of the ballots and all of the voter data. What are they slow walking?

ummmm. they ignored a subpoena to turn over the ballots. They actually missed the deadline on purpose. Only after a court order did they turn them over. that's the definition of slow walking. try not to be so obtuse.

In the bigger picture, which many people have pointed out in this thread - if it was a fair election, what are they hiding? If they are so confident, why send a snarky letter? The letter is way over the top in its vitriol. Completely unnecessary and condescending language - almost like they "protest too much", to borrow a line from Shakespeare.

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 8:44 am

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 17th, 2021, 4:07 pm

mudflap wrote: ↑May 14th, 2021, 9:49 am MOAR bubbling up from AZ:



Someone show me where it's "Baseless"... point by point, please.

The county has given it's response:
https://t.co/ZiGPhahU6y?amp=1

Senate President Fann,

We write in response to your May 12, 2021 letter. We also write in response to the May 12th social media post from the Twitter account, run by you or your designee/s, which accused Maricopa County of “deleting a directory full of databases from the 2020 election cycle days before the election equipment was delivered to the audit,” and went on to accuse the County of “spoliation of evidence.”

These accusations are false, defamatory, and beneath the dignity of the Senate. They are an insult to the dedicated public servants in the Maricopa County Elections Department and Office of the Recorder, who work incredibly
long hours conducting the County’s elections with integrity and honor.

1. Your accusation, that Maricopa County deleted data, is false. You claim “the entire ‘Database’ directory from the D drive of the machine EMSPrimary has been deleted.” This is false: the “Database” was not deleted from the server. And an analysis of the screenshot you provided (the “screenshot”), which we reproduce below, further proves that fact.

We demand that you immediately rescind your false and malicious tweet asserting that Maricopa County “spoiled evidence” in the days before we provided the server to the Senate. Your tweet, which relies on the “modified date” shown in the screenshot as evidence of wrongdoing, is demonstrably false; the only thing it does demonstrate is your auditors’ incompetence.

Their stunning lack of a basic understanding for how their software works is egregious and only made worse by the false tweet sent defaming the hardworking employees of Maricopa County.
That the Senate would launch such a grave accusation via Twitter not only before waiting for an answer to your questions, but also before your so called “audit” demonstrates to the world that the Arizona Senate is not acting in good faith, has no intention of learning anything about the November 2020 General Election, but is only interested in feeding the various festering
conspiracy theories that fuel the fundraising schemes of those pulling your strings. You have rented out the once good name of the Arizona State Senate to grifters and con-artists, who are fundraising hard-earned money from our fellow citizens even as your contractors parade around the Coliseum, hunting for bamboo and something they call “kinematic artifacts”
while shining purple lights for effect. None of these things are done in a serious audit. The result is that the Arizona Senate is held up to ridicule in every corner of the globe and our democracy is imperiled.

On April 12, 2021, the Elections Department shut down the server to be packed up and made ready for delivery to the Senate. At no point was any data deleted when shutting down the server and packing up the equipment. Windows Servers will often change the “metadata” (additional data on files such as creation date, access date, modified date, owner, etc.) on Microsoft SQL database files based on actions performed on the Microsoft SQL (MSQL) Services that are needed to run the databases.

The modified dates on the files are identical in the screen shots because that is when the server was shut down, and the (MSQL) services themselves were shut down, causing the server to update the metadata on all the files to the specific time when the services were shut down. Nothing was “deleted” on April 12, 2021. Maricopa County provided you the actual Dominion server as commanded by your subpoena and we did not transfer or delete from that server any data from the 2020 General Election that was subject to your subpoena. You have now returned that server to us. Evidently your “auditors” made a copy of that server and are conducting their analysis on the copy.

The screenshot reveals that your “auditors” were using R-Studio Network Technician to conduct their analysis. That software is used to identify files that are missing at the spot the software is told to search. Yet you provided the screenshot falsely asserting that these identified “missing files” were deleted and evidence was “spoiled”. Nothing in this screenshot indicates that
any file was deleted or spoiled. At most what can be discerned from this screenshot is that R-Studio, as used by your “auditors,” did not locate within the copy your vendor created the particular files listed in the column on the right.

Still, these files, and the Database, have the ominous red X-mark. We cannot say for certain what that mark indicates—other than that it likely indicates that R-Studio was unable to locate the files. The screenshot does not identify
what type of search your “auditors” ran, and you conveniently failed to provide the full report the search generated. However, the table at the bottom of the screenshot appears to indicate that certain data is missing because it
“extends beyond disk bounds” of the copied hard drive searched. Perhaps these files have the red X-mark because your “auditors” copied them to a segment of the hard drive that, in lay terms, is unreadable by the R-Studio software. Or because your “auditors” set the R-Studio search parameters incorrectly, such that it searched for these files in an area of the hard drive where they do not reside. There could be other explanations as well, including the possibility that your “auditors” inadvertently, or purposefully, moved—or even deleted—certain data.

Regardless, the failure of your so called “auditors” to locate data files on the copy they made of the County’s server speaks more to their ineptitude than it does to the integrity and actions of our dedicated public employees who effectively and accurately run the elections in the fourth largest county in the United States.

Okay, so the database was shut down making it look like everything was gone. Therefore, all that would need to be done is simply boot up the database, right? I think this screenshot was taken when everything was booted up and running like it should have been. Why do they keep referring to the "modified date" ? If the files aren't there, they aren't there lol.


"Evidently your “auditors” made a copy of that server and are conducting their analysis on the copy."

Uh yeah, I think that's what they were in the process of doing when they took that screenshot.

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 10:19 am

mudflap wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 6:02 am

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 17th, 2021, 11:06 pm

mudflap wrote: ↑May 17th, 2021, 9:06 pm I used to be a teacher, so I know all the ways to be defiant - these guys are guilty of using at least two methods:
- slow walking.
- temper tantrum.

like I said, this is not over.

They provided all of the ballots and all of the voter data. What are they slow walking?

ummmm. they ignored a subpoena to turn over the ballots. They actually missed the deadline on purpose. Only after a court order did they turn them over. that's the definition of slow walking. try not to be so obtuse.

In the bigger picture, which many people have pointed out in this thread - if it was a fair election, what are they hiding? If they are so confident, why send a snarky letter? The letter is way over the top in its vitriol. Completely unnecessary and condescending language - almost like they "protest too much", to borrow a line from Shakespeare.

Refusing to comply for a short time is a pretty timid tactic. Was the Trump administration's refusal to comply with congress's subpoenas, not just for a short time but forever, evidence of his guilt?

They sent a snarky letter because they think this stuff is harmful to the country. To again make a Trump analogy, he was frequently over the top in when he denounced the "witch hunts" and whatever against him. Again, evidence of his guilt?

They sent a snarky letter because they think this stuff is harmful to the country.

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 10:21 am The auditors didn't copy it over.

"Evidently your “auditors” made a copy of that server and are conducting their analysis on the copy."

mudflap wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 11:27 am

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 10:19 am

mudflap wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 6:02 am

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 17th, 2021, 11:06 pm

They provided all of the ballots and all of the voter data. What are they slow walking?

ummmm. they ignored a subpoena to turn over the ballots. They actually missed the deadline on purpose. Only after a court order did they turn them over. that's the definition of slow walking. try not to be so obtuse.

In the bigger picture, which many people have pointed out in this thread - if it was a fair election, what are they hiding? If they are so confident, why send a snarky letter? The letter is way over the top in its vitriol. Completely unnecessary and condescending language - almost like they "protest too much", to borrow a line from Shakespeare.

Refusing to comply for a short time is a pretty timid tactic. Was the Trump administration's refusal to comply with congress's subpoenas, not just for a short time but forever, evidence of his guilt?

They sent a snarky letter because they think this stuff is harmful to the country. To again make a Trump analogy, he was frequently over the top in when he denounced the "witch hunts" and whatever against him. Again, evidence of his guilt?

how did we go from "slow walking" to "evidence of guilt"?

And I agree - Trump did slow walk stuff.

They sent a snarky letter because they think this stuff is harmful to the country.

if there's nothing to hide, why slow walk it? if there's no evidence of a stolen election, why the secrecy? why the attacks? Why the FBI plane flying overhead bristling with probes?

If you're sure of your position, you don't try to hide the evidence.

and yes. there were witch hunts against trump. his entire presidency was one witch hunt after another. anyone in denial over that hasn't been paying attention. disclaimer: I didn't vote for him the first time.

Democrats amuse me. 80 million trump voters think the 2020 election was stolen. I think they are right. I think democrats are trying to hide something.

who cares, really: over the cliff we go.

Got preps?

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 11:45 am

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 10:21 am The auditors didn't copy it over.

From the letter:

"Evidently your “auditors” made a copy of that server and are conducting their analysis on the copy."

When you do a database restore, the copy should be the exact same database ID/name. So that when it boots up, everything runs as if nothing happened. The screenshot seems to show that they tried to start up the DB, but it was failing because the databases are missing.

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 11:51 am

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 11:45 am

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 10:21 am The auditors didn't copy it over.

From the letter:

"Evidently your “auditors” made a copy of that server and are conducting their analysis on the copy."

When you do a database restore, the copy should be the exact same database ID/name. So that when it boots up, everything runs as if nothing happened. The screenshot seems to show that they tried to start up the DB, but it was failing because the databases are missing.

Yes, it SHOULD be an exact copy. The screenshot shows that Cyber Ninjas didn't make an exact copy like they should have. It shows that they don't know what they're doing.

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 11:49 am They aren't hiding evidence anymore than anyone else who thinks an investigation is dumb does. They think the people promoting this narrative are lying and hurting the country.

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 12:05 pm

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 11:51 am

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 11:45 am

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 10:21 am The auditors didn't copy it over.

From the letter:

"Evidently your “auditors” made a copy of that server and are conducting their analysis on the copy."

When you do a database restore, the copy should be the exact same database ID/name. So that when it boots up, everything runs as if nothing happened. The screenshot seems to show that they tried to start up the DB, but it was failing because the databases are missing.

Yes, it SHOULD be an exact copy. The screenshot shows that Cyber Ninjas didn't make an exact copy like they should have. It shows that they don't know what they're doing.

How can you tell that it is not an exact copy from looking at the screenshot?

Here is a higher resolution photo of the screenshot:

mudflap wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 12:15 pm

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 11:49 am They aren't hiding evidence anymore than anyone else who thinks an investigation is dumb does. They think the people promoting this narrative are lying and hurting the country.

So...injecting your personal opinions and snarkiness into a lawfully requested audit is ok, as long as you believe what you're doing is for the good of the country.


Got it. I'll be sure and keep this in mind.

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 12:19 pm

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 12:05 pm

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 11:51 am

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 11:45 am


From the letter:



When you do a database restore, the copy should be the exact same database ID/name. So that when it boots up, everything runs as if nothing happened. The screenshot seems to show that they tried to start up the DB, but it was failing because the databases are missing.

Yes, it SHOULD be an exact copy. The screenshot shows that Cyber Ninjas didn't make an exact copy like they should have. It shows that they don't know what they're doing.

How can you tell that it is not an exact copy from looking at the screenshot?

Here is a higher resolution photo of the screenshot:

Because they have the exact location of the file that was there in the original. It didn't copy because their partition wasn't big enough or they configure the RAID correctly. That's why it says it knows it was there in the original, but says it is not in the copy because it "extends beyond disk bounds."

Here's someone having the same problem with the same software a few years ago. He solved the error by configuring the RAID correctly.
https://forum.r-tt.com/viewtopic.php?t=8783

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 12:29 pm

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 12:19 pm

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 12:05 pm

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 11:51 am

Yes, it SHOULD be an exact copy. The screenshot shows that Cyber Ninjas didn't make an exact copy like they should have. It shows that they don't know what they're doing.

How can you tell that it is not an exact copy from looking at the screenshot?

Here is a higher resolution photo of the screenshot:

Because they have the exact location of the file that was there in the original. It didn't copy because their partition wasn't big enough or they configure the RAID correctly. That's why it says it knows it was there in the original, but says it is not in the copy because it "extends beyond disk bounds."

Here's someone having the same problem with the same software a few years ago. He solved the error by configuring the RAID correctly.
https://forum.r-tt.com/viewtopic.php?t=8783

Interesting, so all they would need to do is build out their disks to the exact specifications of the original in order to restore. Now, the other question: it appears that the copy didn't happen from the screenshot, but the county election people claim that they do have copies. Or... do they have the copies, but are not able to restore it correctly?

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 12:49 pm

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 12:29 pm

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 12:19 pm

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 12:05 pm



How can you tell that it is not an exact copy from looking at the screenshot?

Here is a higher resolution photo of the screenshot:

Because they have the exact location of the file that was there in the original. It didn't copy because their partition wasn't big enough or they configure the RAID correctly. That's why it says it knows it was there in the original, but says it is not in the copy because it "extends beyond disk bounds."

Here's someone having the same problem with the same software a few years ago. He solved the error by configuring the RAID correctly.
https://forum.r-tt.com/viewtopic.php?t=8783

Interesting, so all they would need to do is build out their disks to the exact specifications of the original in order to restore. Now, the other question: it appears that the copy didn't happen from the screenshot, but the county election people claim that they do have copies. Or... do they have the copies, but are not able to restore it correctly?

Yes, it should be an easy fix.

The County had the original disks with all the info. They gave Cyber Ninjas the originals. Cyber Ninjas made copies, but messed it up. They will likely need to get the originals from the County again.

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 12:51 pm

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 12:49 pm

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 12:29 pm

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 12:19 pm

Because they have the exact location of the file that was there in the original. It didn't copy because their partition wasn't big enough or they configure the RAID correctly. That's why it says it knows it was there in the original, but says it is not in the copy because it "extends beyond disk bounds."

Here's someone having the same problem with the same software a few years ago. He solved the error by configuring the RAID correctly.
https://forum.r-tt.com/viewtopic.php?t=8783

Interesting, so all they would need to do is build out their disks to the exact specifications of the original in order to restore. Now, the other question: it appears that the copy didn't happen from the screenshot, but the county election people claim that they do have copies. Or... do they have the copies, but are not able to restore it correctly?

Yes, it should be an easy fix.

The County had the original disks with all the info. They gave Cyber Ninjas the originals. Cyber Ninjas made copies, but messed it up. They will likely need to get the originals from the County again.

... so what you're saying is that we will probably never see those disks again.

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 1:12 pm

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 12:51 pm

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 12:49 pm

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 12:29 pm

Interesting, so all they would need to do is build out their disks to the exact specifications of the original in order to restore. Now, the other question: it appears that the copy didn't happen from the screenshot, but the county election people claim that they do have copies. Or... do they have the copies, but are not able to restore it correctly?

Yes, it should be an easy fix.

The County had the original disks with all the info. They gave Cyber Ninjas the originals. Cyber Ninjas made copies, but messed it up. They will likely need to get the originals from the County again.

... so what you're saying is that we will probably never see those disks again.

And when they produce them, will that be enough? Will anything be enough?

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 12:20 pm

mudflap wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 12:15 pm

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 11:49 am They aren't hiding evidence anymore than anyone else who thinks an investigation is dumb does. They think the people promoting this narrative are lying and hurting the country.

So...injecting your personal opinions and snarkiness into a lawfully requested audit is ok, as long as you believe what you're doing is for the good of the country.


Got it. I'll be sure and keep this in mind.

..... Did Trump respond with snarkiness and vitriol? Does every politician do that kind of stuff?

mudflap wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 1:42 pm

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 12:20 pm

mudflap wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 12:15 pm

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 11:49 am They aren't hiding evidence anymore than anyone else who thinks an investigation is dumb does. They think the people promoting this narrative are lying and hurting the country.

So...injecting your personal opinions and snarkiness into a lawfully requested audit is ok, as long as you believe what you're doing is for the good of the country.


Got it. I'll be sure and keep this in mind.

..... Did Trump respond with snarkiness and vitriol? Does every politician do that kind of stuff?

lol. I don't think anything they did to Trump was lawful.

Sure, maricopa county claims they've answered the letter - by calling the senators idiots, basically - but not all of the claims have actually been answered.

Again, if truth is on your side, why react in a rage? you really think asking for audits is what's destroying this country?

lol. make sure you get your vaccine.

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 1:16 pm

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 1:12 pm

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 12:51 pm

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 12:49 pm

Yes, it should be an easy fix.

The County had the original disks with all the info. They gave Cyber Ninjas the originals. Cyber Ninjas made copies, but messed it up. They will likely need to get the originals from the County again.

... so what you're saying is that we will probably never see those disks again.

And when they produce them, will that be enough? Will anything be enough?

I believe this to be the first forensic audit of the ballots themselves, and the machines themselves. So, if anything, this is the one to watch for. However, I'm pretty sure the deep state will shut it down if it's the real deal to begin with.

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 2:30 pm

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 1:16 pm

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 1:12 pm

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 12:51 pm


... so what you're saying is that we will probably never see those disks again.

And when they produce them, will that be enough? Will anything be enough?

I believe this to be the first forensic audit of the ballots themselves, and the machines themselves. So, if anything, this is the one to watch for. However, I'm pretty sure the deep state will shut it down if it's the real deal to begin with.

And if they don't, and they don't find evidence of fraud?

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 2:41 pm

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 2:30 pm

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 1:16 pm

franklinbluth wrote: ↑May 18th, 2021, 1:12 pm

And when they produce them, will that be enough? Will anything be enough?

I believe this to be the first forensic audit of the ballots themselves, and the machines themselves. So, if anything, this is the one to watch for. However, I'm pretty sure the deep state will shut it down if it's the real deal to begin with.

And if they don't, and they don't find evidence of fraud?

I'm convinced there is. But I'm also of the belief that this whole thing is a sham anyway. Designed to make conservatives look bad and to cement the steal once and for all.