President Nelson Is God's Prophet

[Mamabear]

If you will stay with the majority of the Twelve Apostles, and the records of the Church, you will never be led astray.

Joseph Smith, Jr.

Joseph only said that for that particular man, that he would never be led astray. But we live in a later era with other leaders. No such promise for us.

Prophet Joseph Smith said,

I will give you a key that will never rust, if you will stay with the majority of the Twelve Apostles, and the records of the Church, you will never be led astray.

"Never" means never.

It’s funny….this quote doesn’t match any biblical scripture. Joseph was wrong.

“I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.
So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.” Corinthians 3:6-7

“Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours;”
1 Corinthians 3:21

“There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.“
Roman 8:1

“For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.“
Philippians 3:3

“Thus saith the Lord; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the Lord.
For he shall be like the heath in the desert, and shall not see when good cometh; but shall inhabit the parched places in the wilderness, in a salt land and not inhabited.
Blessed is the man that trusteth in the Lord, and whose hope the Lord is.“
Jeremiah 17:5-7

[Letfreedumbring]

Keys that will never rust - Joseph Smith

Temples that will stand during the millenium - Brigham Young

Exciting project to improve temple environs - Gordon Hinckley (all is well in zion 2000s General Conference talk)

Let's go Shopping! - Thomas Monson (opening City Creek project designed to improve temple environs)

Stay off Social Media - Russel Ballard

Use facebook and twitter to proselyte - Missionary Dept
$1.4B Google, $484 M Facebook - Ensign Peak Advisors

Tithing fund millions spent directly on I am a Mormon campaign - Thomas Monson
Gay couple kids cannot be baptized

Mormon usage is victory for satan - Russell Nelson
Gay couple kids can too be baptized

Finally achieved the 100th temple in all church history - Gordon Hinckley

120 temples announced in my term alone - Russell Nelson

Joseph Smith reading Gold Plates picture - Every Book of Mormon given out ever, Ensign, Gen Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG181zFA5YM - Russell Nelson

Literal Godsend vaccines - Rusell Nelson
Sudden Brass Serpent Deaths testing the faithful - David Bednar 2030 General Conference
Tender Myocarditis Mercies to rescue iphone addicts in sacrament

If you think about it too much, you will have that perplexed look like the Prophet did April 2020 conference being just as surprised as many of us.

[Obeone]

(Remember Noah cursing Ham, even though Noah made an honest mistake? That curse stuck to Ham regardless, because God had respect to the authority He gave Noah. Nelson has that authority too. So be careful how you speak. Word to the wise.)

Error....

Ham wasn't cursed, it was his son Canaan. Because seeing Noah's nakedness, is an idiom for sleeping with his wife. The product of that union, Canaan, received the curse, not Ham.

Both were cursed. As for sleeping with the wife: unlikely from the context.

As for the full JS quote, here it is:

The Prophet Joseph Smith added: “I referred to the curse of Ham for laughing at Noah, while in his wine, but doing no harm. Noah was a righteous man, and yet he drank wine and became intoxicated; the Lord did not forsake him in consequence thereof, for he retained all the power of his priesthood, and when he was accused by Canaan, he cursed him by the priesthood which he held, and the Lord had respect to his word, and the priesthood which he held, notwithstanding he was drunk, and the curse remains upon the posterity of Canaan until the present day” (History of the Church, 4:445–46).

[TwochurchesOnly]

Keys that will never rust - Joseph Smith

Temples that will stand during the millenium - Brigham Young

Exciting project to improve temple environs - Gordon Hinckley (all is well in zion 2000s General Conference talk)

Let's go Shopping! - Thomas Monson (opening City Creek project designed to improve temple environs)

Stay off Social Media - Russel Ballard

Use facebook and twitter to proselyte - Missionary Dept
$1.4B Google, $484 M Facebook - Ensign Peak Advisors

Tithing fund millions spent directly on I am a Mormon campaign - Thomas Monson
Gay couple kids cannot be baptized

Mormon usage is victory for satan - Russell Nelson
Gay couple kids can too be baptized

Finally achieved the 100th temple in all church history - Gordon Hinckley

120 temples announced in my term alone - Russell Nelson

Joseph Smith reading Gold Plates picture - Every Book of Mormon given out ever, Ensign, Gen Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG181zFA5YM - Russell Nelson

Literal Godsend vaccines - Rusell Nelson
Sudden Brass Serpent Deaths testing the faithful - David Bednar 2030 General Conference
Tender Myocarditis Mercies to rescue iphone addicts in sacrament

If you think about it too much, you will have that perplexed look like the Prophet did April 2020 conference being just as surprised as many of us.

[FoxMammaWisdom]

A moral person who loves his fellow man would sound a voice of warning...if there were something that was causing harm and even death.

They would do what is right, let the consequence follow...even if that meant harm for the organization, personal embarrassment or people losing faith in you.

I agree with you. However Q15 are:

a) Ignorant of the fact that they are being deceived by the cabal about covid lie, and
b) Looks like God commanded them to "urge" us to take the vax just like the second prophet was commanded to "urge" the first to dinner that killed him. It is all a test.

The difference though, is that current apostles are not aware of the test, but believe "safe and effective" lie by the Gadiantons.

But it is still a valid test, and God is the author of it, just like in 1 Kings 13.

That's a fact.

At this point, I don't know what is worse...urging the deadly-jab or pretending it's not causing injury and death...or labeling those who vocally point out these things..."activists".

Take your pick...but it is all rotten bitter fruit.

It is all a test.

[Obeone]

So you believe it IS possible for these men to lead the church astray only in temporal things, but not spiritual things?

Is officially uniting with the United Nations - pledging to implement Agenda 2030 not just a temporal pitfall, but a spiritual one as well?


How do you manage within your mind that the old testament prophets were not speaking of the leaders of the House of Israel in the last days?

I agree with you that it is a test, but you think that those leaders are following God... which is clear that they are not.

They are following God to the best of their current knowledge, and are diligent and faithful. Therefore God will forgive all their honest errors, and His true authority and keys remain with them for the Kingdom of God on earth.

We should respect this fact, this mantle and this authority that God gave them, and be merciful to them if we wish that God should be merciful to us.

The promise that God gave is that this is the Last Dispensation, and that His Kingdom is coming forward for the last time. Which necessarily means that this dispensation of the Gospel will not be destroyed by apostasy as all the previous ones were.

The authority, the keys and the Kingdom are here to stay until the earth shall pass away.

This is why it is inescapable conclusion that God will not allow Q15 or anyone else to lead His Church astray as far as the Eternal Salvation is concerned. That is the promise.

And as for all other "lesser" things, we need to grow up, and learn that the Spirit of God outranks the prophet every time.

[Obeone]

You don't look so good!

[Atrasado]

If you will stay with the majority of the Twelve Apostles, and the records of the Church, you will never be led astray.

Joseph Smith, Jr.

Joseph only said that for that particular man, that he would never be led astray. But we live in a later era with other leaders. No such promise for us.

Prophet Joseph Smith said,

I will give you a key that will never rust, if you will stay with the majority of the Twelve Apostles, and the records of the Church, you will never be led astray.

"Never" means never.

True. However, "you" doesn't mean "everyone". That man is dead, so he couldn't be following today's leaders. He is still following those who led him in mortality but in the spirit world.

That one snippet cannot erase everything that is in the scriptures. There are so many verses about prophets who mislead in the latter days because the people want it so. In Second Nephi 19:13-17 Nephi quotes Isaiah (the fact that Nephi and Isaiah both wrote this is a double testimony that these words are for us) saying:

13 For the people turneth not unto him that smiteth them, neither do they seek the Lord of Hosts.
14 Therefore will the Lord cut off from Israel head and tail, branch and rush in one day.
15 The ancient, he is the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail.
16 For the leaders of this people cause them to err; and they that are led of them are destroyed.
17 Therefore the Lord shall have no joy in their young men, neither shall have mercy on their fatherless and widows; for every one of them is a hypocrite and an evildoer, and every mouth speaketh folly. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.

There are many more scriptures like this. We ignore these warnings at our own peril. We must repent and turn to the Lord and not trust in our own righteousness. We must seek the gift of the Spirit so that we cannot be deceived and so that we might have charity, for it will be well for those who have charity at that great day when Christ returns.

[Obeone]

Prophet Joseph Smith said,

I will give you a key that will never rust, if you will stay with the majority of the Twelve Apostles, and the records of the Church, you will never be led astray.

"Never" means never.

True. However, "you" doesn't mean "everyone". That man is dead, so he couldn't be following today's leaders. He is still following those who led him in mortality but in the spirit world.

This reminds me of Clinton who said: It depends what the word "is" means.

Pray about it. I know that this was a general statement and applies today, despite of earth, hell, or you.

Cheers.

That one snippet cannot erase everything that is in the scriptures. There are so many verses about prophets who mislead in the latter days because the people want it so.

We are promised by God that this is the Final Dispensation, and that His Kingdom is here to stay.
Men may fall, but the Kingdom will not.

Learn this.

The Church is the Kingdom. By fighting it you fight God and will feel His hand.

Be wise, what can I say more?

[Letfreedumbring]

What is interesting is how much adoration the 15 get, including teenagers crying to get to see them. As a convert fully believing these men to be the same as in the NT and OT, I was always disgusted by this level of idolatry (sorry let's call it what it is even if it is advertised in the Deseret Book monthly circular.)

We seem to think idolatry can't exist in LDS circles but we have enshrined it by looking past the mark of critical thinking. We act as if these men are above the reproach of the Fall, as if they were somehow more righteous.

The Lord still holds all the copyright keys on earth to this truth: "as it is written: “None is righteous, no, not one" - Romans 3:15

[ransomme]

"...follow the wise and thoughtful recommendations of medical experts and government leaders."

Could be interpreted follow ONLY "wise and thoughtful recommendations".

And inasmuch as there are none, don't follow them.

Thank you for that illustration of text without a context is a pretext to say anything you want. The context here is GET VACCINATED!

"Members of the Church are encouraged to safeguard themselves, their children, and their communities through vaccination."
"Receiving the vaccine today was part of our personal efforts to be good global citizens in helping to eliminate COVID-19 from the world."
"We know that protection from the diseases they cause can only be achieved by immunizing a very high percentage of the population."
"Available vaccines have proven to be both safe and effective."

[Obeone]

"...follow the wise and thoughtful recommendations of medical experts and government leaders."

Could be interpreted follow ONLY "wise and thoughtful recommendations".

And inasmuch as there are none, don't follow them.

Thank you for that illustration of text without a context is a pretext to say anything you want. The context here is GET VACCINATED!

"Members of the Church are encouraged to safeguard themselves, their children, and their communities through vaccination."
"Receiving the vaccine today was part of our personal efforts to be good global citizens in helping to eliminate COVID-19 from the world."
"We know that protection from the diseases they cause can only be achieved by immunizing a very high percentage of the population."
"Available vaccines have proven to be both safe and effective."

That's why I said Q15 were dead wrong on covid. And God allowed it for a test.

Still their errors are not intentional, and God will forgive them.

In fact, as a test, God could have commanded them to "urge" us to get vax, just like the second prophet was commanded to urge the first to dinner as a test.

So for us it is simply a test: grow up, and follow the Spirit, because He outranks Q15 every time.

[Reluctant Watchman]

"...follow the wise and thoughtful recommendations of medical experts and government leaders."

Could be interpreted follow ONLY "wise and thoughtful recommendations".

And inasmuch as there are none, don't follow them.

Thank you for that illustration of text without a context is a pretext to say anything you want. The context here is GET VACCINATED!

"Members of the Church are encouraged to safeguard themselves, their children, and their communities through vaccination."
"Receiving the vaccine today was part of our personal efforts to be good global citizens in helping to eliminate COVID-19 from the world."
"We know that protection from the diseases they cause can only be achieved by immunizing a very high percentage of the population."
"Available vaccines have proven to be both safe and effective."

That's why I said Q15 were dead wrong on covid. And God allowed it for a test.

Still their errors are not intentional, and God will forgive them.

In fact, as a test, God could have commanded them to "urge" us to get vax, just like the second prophet was commanded to urge the first to dinner as a test.

So for us it is simply a test: grow up, and follow the Spirit, because He outranks Q15 every time.

Their response to Covid was a symptom of a far greater systemic spiritual illness among the saints and their doctrine.

[Atrasado]

So you believe it IS possible for these men to lead the church astray only in temporal things, but not spiritual things?

Is officially uniting with the United Nations - pledging to implement Agenda 2030 not just a temporal pitfall, but a spiritual one as well?


How do you manage within your mind that the old testament prophets were not speaking of the leaders of the House of Israel in the last days?

I agree with you that it is a test, but you think that those leaders are following God... which is clear that they are not.

They are following God to the best of their current knowledge, and are diligent and faithful. Therefore God will forgive all their honest errors, and His true authority and keys remain with them for the Kingdom of God on earth.

We should respect this fact, this mantle and this authority that God gave them, and be merciful to them if we wish that God should be merciful to us.

The promise that God gave is that this is the Last Dispensation, and the His Kingdom is coming forward for the last time. Which necessarily means that this dispensation of the Gospel will not be destroyed by apostasy as all the previous ones were.

The authority, the keys and the Kingdom are here to stay until the earth shall pass away.

This is why it is inescapable conclusion that God will not allow Q15 or anyone else to lead His Church astray as far as the Eternal Salvation is concerned. That is the promise.

And as for all other "lesser" things, we need to grow up, and learn that the Spirit of God outranks the prophet every time.

Ok. You show me in the scriptures where it says that there wouldn't be issues with lying prophets and apostasy in the last days. I'll show you over 200 scriptures that do testify of these things.

But it isn't just the scriptures, it is our leaders' actions that witness against them. From donating money that will make abortions more plentiful (they certainly understand fungeability), to their abominable policies on child sex abuse, to pushing acceptance of transgenderism and homosexuality, to Marxist BLM and social justice agendas, to officially joining arms with cabalists it is clear that these men serve the enemy of all righteousness.

9 And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the Lord have not deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel.
10 And they shall bear the punishment of their iniquity: the punishment of the prophet shall be even as the punishment of him that seeketh unto him;
JST Ezekiel 14:9-10

[Obeone]

Their response to Covid was a symptom of a far greater systemic spiritual illness among the saints and their doctrine.

No, my friend, YOUR response to Covid "was a symptom of a far greater systemic spiritual illness" in you.

But God is merciful, if we repent and humble ourselves before Him.

I need it more than anyone else.

[Letfreedumbring]

This is a test. This is only a test. If this had been a real test, it would have been followed by injury and possible death. Okay prophetic pencils down.

[InfoWarrior82]

Joining the church with Babylon and secret combinations will have spiritual consequences for the members. It's already started long before any of us were born. Now it's just being thrown in our faces.

Have you not read what the Lord said?

 D&C 82
22 And now, verily I say unto you, and this is wisdom, make unto yourselves friends with the mammon of unrighteousness, and they will not destroy you.
23 Leave judgment alone with me, for it is mine and I will repay. ...

Are you wiser than Him?

Making "friends" is to join satan's church?

First of all, the Lord here was speaking about money. Not about giving up His path.

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... 6?lang=eng


Originally, the Lord intended for Zion to be redeemed through the purchasing of certain lands with money.

He said if that failed and if the Saints did not keep His commandments, the only other way was through bloodshed.



Mormon 8

38 O ye pollutions, ye hypocrites, ye teachers, who sell yourselves for that which will canker, why have ye polluted the holy church of God? Why are ye ashamed to take upon you the name of Christ? Why do ye not think that greater is the value of an endless happiness than that misery which never dies--because of the praise of the world?

“When ‘Mormonism’ finds favor with the wicked in this land, it will have gone into the shade; but until the power of the Priesthood is gone, ‘Mormonism’ will never become popular with the wicked.” (Brigham Young, JD 4:38, 31 August 1856)

“And when the spirit of persecution, the spirit of hatred, of wrath, and malice ceases in the world against this people, it will be the time that this people have apostatized and joined hands with the wicked, and never until then; which I pray may never come.” (Brigham Young, JD 4:326-327, 31 May 1857)
“As the kingdom of God rises and advances upon the earth, so will the power of Satan increase to impede its progress until God shall purge that power from the earth, and so give the Saints the victory, that they can bear off his kingdom triumphantly in spite of the powers of Satan and wicked men. But so far as the power of Satan extends, just so far will be seen his operations to overthrow all righteousness. There is nothing that would so soon weaken my hope and discourage me as to see this people in full fellowship with the world, and receive no more persecution from them because they are one with them. In such an event, we might bid farewell to the Holy Priesthood with all its blessings, privileges and aids to exaltations, principalities and powers in the eternities of the Gods.” (Brigham Young, JD 10:32, 8 April 1862)

“When we see the time that we can willingly strike hands and have full fellowship with those who despise the Kingdom of God, know ye then that the Priesthood of the Son of God is out of your possession. Let us be careful how we make friends with and fellowship unrighteousness, lest the curse of God descends heavily upon us.” (Brigham Young, JD 10:273, 6 October 1863)

“In the summer of 1862, President Brigham Young came thru Dixie. The people were so glad to see him that they took every means in their power to make everything as comfortable for him as possible. I remember too, when he stopped at Harrisburg at the time Dr. Pridy Meeks, my brother-in-law and I, with our families were living in willow rooms that joined. The President stopped with us. He sat at the head of the table and had me sit down at his right. The President, when everything was ready, asked a blessing, then all began to eat. He asked for some buttermilk, then crumbled some bread in it and began to eat. He conversed freely on the situation of the Saints in the mountains, and said that he dreaded the time when the Saints would become popular with the world; for he had seen in sorrow, in a dream, or in dreams, this people clothed in the fashions of Babylon, and drinking in the spirit of Babylon until one could hardly tell a Saint from a black-leg. And he felt like shouting, ‘To your tents, Oh Israel!’ because it was the only thing that could keep this people pure. Many of this people for the sake of riches and popularity, will sell themselves for that which will canker their souls and lead them down to misery and despair. It would be better for them to dwell in wigwams among the Indians than to dwell with the gentiles and miss the glories which God wishes them to obtain. I wish my families would see the point and come forth before it is too late. For oh, I can see the tendency in my families to hug the moth eaten customs of Babylon to their bosoms. This is far more hurtful to them than the deadly viper; for the poisons of the viper can be healed by the power of God. but the customs of Babylon will be hard to get rid of.” (Mosiah Hancock Journal, pg. 73)
“The Lord says, ‘Woe unto you when all men speak well of you.’ Sometimes I have known the papers say this and that good thing about the ‘Mormons,’ and I have said, ‘What’s up? Are we getting wicked, that the world loves us?’” (George A. Smith, JD 13:297, 20 November 1870)
“In the early church the Saints were extremely anxious for two things: First, to be well thought of by the pagans. Their ears itched for praise. Do any of you brethren know anything about such a tendency as that?” (J. Reuben Clark, In ‘Remarks at Bishop’s Meeting’, 29 September 1950, J. Reuben Clark Papers, box 151, L. Tom Perry Special Collections, Harold B. Lee Library, Brigham Young University, Provo, Utah)


“It is not intended that in making friends of the ‘mammon of unrighteousness’ that the brethren were to partake with them in their sins; to receive them to their bosoms, intermarry with them and otherwise come down to their level. They were to so live that peace with their enemies might be assured. They were to treat them kindly, be friendly with them as far as correct and virtuous principles would permit, but never to swear with them or drink and carouse with them. If they could allay prejudice and show a willingness to trade with and show a kindly spirit, it might help to turn them away from their bitterness. Judgment was to be left with the Lord” (Church History and Modern Revelation, 2 vols. [1953], 1:323).



Job 34:10-12 (NKJV)
10 Therefore listen to me, you men of understanding: Far be it from God to do wickedness, and from the Almighty to commit iniquity.
11 For He repays man according to his work, and makes man to find a reward according to his way.
12 Surely God will never do wickedly, nor will the Almighty pervert justice.

James 1:12-16 (NKJV)
12 Blessed is the man who endures temptation; for when he has been approved, he will receive the crown of life which the Lord has promised to those who love him.
13 Let no one say when he is tempted, "I am tempted by God"; for God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He Himself tempt anyone.
14 But each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires and enticed.
15 Then, when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, brings forth death.
16 Do not be deceived, my beloved brethren.



2 Corinthians 6:14-18 (NKJV)
14 Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness?
15 And what accord has Christ with Belial? Or what part has a believer with an unbeliever?
16 And what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For you are the temple of the living God. As God has said: "I will dwell in them and walk among them. I will be their God, and they shall be My people."
17 Therefore "Come out from among them and be separate, says the LORD. Do not touch what is unclean, and I will receive you."
18 "I will be a Father to you, and you shall be my sons and daughters, says the LORD Almighty."




So, now that you are more educated, what do you have to say in defense of these perverted men?

[Obeone]

Joining the church with Babylon and secret combinations will have spiritual consequences for the members. It's already started long before any of us were born. Now it's just being thrown in our faces.

Have you not read what the Lord said?

 D&C 82
22 And now, verily I say unto you, and this is wisdom, make unto yourselves friends with the mammon of unrighteousness, and they will not destroy you.
23 Leave judgment alone with me, for it is mine and I will repay. ...

Are you wiser than Him?

Making "friends" is to join satan's church?

You gave a good quote:

“It is not intended that in making friends of the ‘mammon of unrighteousness’ that the brethren were to partake with them in their sins; to receive them to their bosoms, intermarry with them and otherwise come down to their level. They were to so live that peace with their enemies might be assured. They were to treat them kindly, be friendly with them as far as correct and virtuous principles would permit, but never to swear with them or drink and carouse with them. If they could allay prejudice and show a willingness to trade with and show a kindly spirit, it might help to turn them away from their bitterness. Judgment was to be left with the Lord” (Church History and Modern Revelation, 2 vols. [1953], 1:323).

Q15 are doing that.

[Letfreedumbring]

A church masquerading as the one true one allowing its members to fall asleep wrapped in a down doctrinal comforter would never be Satan's church. Only the churches pointed out to us in the glossy gospel brochure are Satan's churches. The devil never appealed to people being of special type to lead them astray. Had this not been so he would have told us.

[InfoWarrior82]

So you believe it IS possible for these men to lead the church astray only in temporal things, but not spiritual things?

Is officially uniting with the United Nations - pledging to implement Agenda 2030 not just a temporal pitfall, but a spiritual one as well?


How do you manage within your mind that the old testament prophets were not speaking of the leaders of the House of Israel in the last days?

I agree with you that it is a test, but you think that those leaders are following God... which is clear that they are not.

They are following God to the best of their current knowledge, and are diligent and faithful. Therefore God will forgive all their honest errors, and His true authority and keys remain with them for the Kingdom of God on earth.

We should respect this fact, this mantle and this authority that God gave them, and be merciful to them if we wish that God should be merciful to us.

The promise that God gave is that this is the Last Dispensation, and the His Kingdom is coming forward for the last time. Which necessarily means that this dispensation of the Gospel will not be destroyed by apostasy as all the previous ones were.

The authority, the keys and the Kingdom are here to stay until the earth shall pass away.

This is why it is inescapable conclusion that God will not allow Q15 or anyone else to lead His Church astray as far as the Eternal Salvation is concerned. That is the promise.

And as for all other "lesser" things, we need to grow up, and learn that the Spirit of God outranks the prophet every time.

These men have 0 scriptural fruits of prophets. I have to judge them accordingly because that's how Christ commanded us to judge men who claim to be prophets of God regardless of what office they were ordained.

[InfoWarrior82]

Joining the church with Babylon and secret combinations will have spiritual consequences for the members. It's already started long before any of us were born. Now it's just being thrown in our faces.

Have you not read what the Lord said?

 D&C 82
22 And now, verily I say unto you, and this is wisdom, make unto yourselves friends with the mammon of unrighteousness, and they will not destroy you.
23 Leave judgment alone with me, for it is mine and I will repay. ...

Are you wiser than Him?

Making "friends" is to join satan's church?

You gave a good quote:

“It is not intended that in making friends of the ‘mammon of unrighteousness’ that the brethren were to partake with them in their sins; to receive them to their bosoms, intermarry with them and otherwise come down to their level. They were to so live that peace with their enemies might be assured. They were to treat them kindly, be friendly with them as far as correct and virtuous principles would permit, but never to swear with them or drink and carouse with them. If they could allay prejudice and show a willingness to trade with and show a kindly spirit, it might help to turn them away from their bitterness. Judgment was to be left with the Lord” (Church History and Modern Revelation, 2 vols. [1953], 1:323).

Q15 are doing that.

Yes! the Q15 are certainly doing everything that the Lord intended them NOT do to!

[Obeone]

These men have 0 scriptural fruits of prophets. I have to judge them accordingly because that's how Christ commanded us to judge men who claim to be prophets of God regardless of what office they were ordained.

Are you privy to all the private revelation they receive?

[InfoWarrior82]

These men have 0 scriptural fruits of prophets. I have to judge them accordingly because that's how Christ commanded us to judge men who claim to be prophets of God regardless of what office they were ordained.

Are you privy to all the private revelation they receive?

Oh, so you are telling me that the Lord commanded them to join with the United Nations and Klaus Schwab and Agenda 2030?

These are nothing but corrupt fruits.

Is it possible for a good tree to bring forth corrupts fruits? What did Christ say about this?

[Obeone]

These men have 0 scriptural fruits of prophets. I have to judge them accordingly because that's how Christ commanded us to judge men who claim to be prophets of God regardless of what office they were ordained.

Are you privy to all the private revelation they receive?

Oh, so you are telling me that the Lord commanded them to join with the United Nations and Klaus Schwab and Agenda 2030?

2030 is when Zion will be restored and the City founded.

Not too long now.

As for what God told them, I did not ask. But I do know that they do hold the keys and authority of God, because God told me so, and I believe Him.

[InfoWarrior82]

These men have 0 scriptural fruits of prophets. I have to judge them accordingly because that's how Christ commanded us to judge men who claim to be prophets of God regardless of what office they were ordained.

Are you privy to all the private revelation they receive?

Oh, so you are telling me that the Lord commanded them to join with the United Nations and Klaus Schwab and Agenda 2030?

2030 is when Zion will be restored and the City founded.

Not too long now.

As for what God told them, I did not ask. But I do know that they do hold the keys and authority of God, because God told me so, and I believe Him.

And our church leaders have linked arm in arm with Satan's church and the counterfeit Zion AKA "Agenda 2030". That is irrefutable.


You do not understand keys and authority.