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Fred wrote: ↑January 20th, 2021, 12:09 pm I'm sold. I wonder where we can get these made? Probably have to order hundreds to make it worthwhile to create a screen if they are screen printed. But I bet they would sell real well. Maybe a good idea for a young men or young women fund raising project.

There is a pile of cash waiting for an enterprising person to capitalize on.

You can find the mesh ones on etsy.com

David13 wrote: ↑January 20th, 2021, 8:11 am

righteousrepublic wrote: ↑January 20th, 2021, 12:12 am

David13 wrote: ↑January 19th, 2021, 12:09 pm

mcusick wrote: ↑January 18th, 2021, 1:27 am It's not about the virus. It's a sign of Christ-like love.

You are right. It has nothing to do with any disease. It has to do with blind obedience to nonsense. Pure sheepishness.

Now, where in the bible did it say Christ hid his God given face? NOWHERE!

it was Satan who wanted blind obedience, and no free will.
dc

Faith and humility IS blind obedience.

Nephi had no idea how he was going to obtain the plates from Laban. But through blind obedience, he said I will go and do.

Noah built an Ark by blind obedience, he didn't see any water for many months before completing the task. He was saying, I will go and do.

God seeks those that posses a willing mind, not a rebellious one. The wearing of a mask, if it is such an issue, can be asked of God if it be right. Is rebellion based on humility?

You are confusing God with Government. God is not the government. In fact God and government are diametrically opposed to each other. Satan has been full well in control of government for quite some time now. Thus, the upcoming cleansing of America.
dc

No...the fact is is that God is and will be the Government. Check out these scriptures:

Government

When Jesus Christ returns, He will establish a government of righteousness.

The government shall be upon his shoulder, Isa. 9:6 (2 Ne. 19:6).

Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, Matt. 22:21 (D&C 63:26).

Be subject to the higher powers, Rom. 13:1.

Pray for kings and all in authority, 1 Tim. 2:1–2.

Be subject to principalities and powers and obey magistrates, Titus 3:1.

Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord’s sake, 1 Pet. 2:13–14.

Jesus Christ shall be the ultimate governor of the earth, Rev. 11:15.

Have just men to be your kings, Mosiah 23:8.

Do your business by the vote of the people, Mosiah 29:26.

Christ will be our ruler when he comes, D&C 41:4.

He that keeps God’s laws has no need to break the laws of the land, D&C 58:21.

When the wicked rule, the people mourn, D&C 98:9–10.

Governments are instituted of God for the benefit of mankind, D&C 134:1–5.

Men are bound to sustain and uphold governments, D&C 134:5.

We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, A of F 1:12.

Why else would God say that the Constitution is for all mankind? Why would he say that he raised up our Founder's for that very purpose?

Doctrine and Covenants 101:80
80 And for this purpose have I established the Constitution of this land, by the hands of wise men whom I raised up unto this very purpose, and redeemed the land by the shedding of blood.

Our Government was meant to be based and ruled by the same Constitution God provided us with.

righteousrepublic wrote: ↑January 21st, 2021, 2:16 am

David13 wrote: ↑January 20th, 2021, 8:11 am

righteousrepublic wrote: ↑January 20th, 2021, 12:12 am

David13 wrote: ↑January 19th, 2021, 12:09 pm


You are right. It has nothing to do with any disease. It has to do with blind obedience to nonsense. Pure sheepishness.

Now, where in the bible did it say Christ hid his God given face? NOWHERE!

it was Satan who wanted blind obedience, and no free will.
dc

Faith and humility IS blind obedience.

Nephi had no idea how he was going to obtain the plates from Laban. But through blind obedience, he said I will go and do.

Noah built an Ark by blind obedience, he didn't see any water for many months before completing the task. He was saying, I will go and do.

God seeks those that posses a willing mind, not a rebellious one. The wearing of a mask, if it is such an issue, can be asked of God if it be right. Is rebellion based on humility?

You are confusing God with Government. God is not the government. In fact God and government are diametrically opposed to each other. Satan has been full well in control of government for quite some time now. Thus, the upcoming cleansing of America.
dc

No...the fact is is that God is and will be the Government. Check out these scriptures:

Government

When Jesus Christ returns, He will establish a government of righteousness.

The government shall be upon his shoulder, Isa. 9:6 (2 Ne. 19:6).

Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, Matt. 22:21 (D&C 63:26).

Be subject to the higher powers, Rom. 13:1.

Pray for kings and all in authority, 1 Tim. 2:1–2.

Be subject to principalities and powers and obey magistrates, Titus 3:1.

Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord’s sake, 1 Pet. 2:13–14.

Jesus Christ shall be the ultimate governor of the earth, Rev. 11:15.

Have just men to be your kings, Mosiah 23:8.

Do your business by the vote of the people, Mosiah 29:26.

Christ will be our ruler when he comes, D&C 41:4.

He that keeps God’s laws has no need to break the laws of the land, D&C 58:21.

When the wicked rule, the people mourn, D&C 98:9–10.

Governments are instituted of God for the benefit of mankind, D&C 134:1–5.

Men are bound to sustain and uphold governments, D&C 134:5.

We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, A of F 1:12.

Why else would God say that the Constitution is for all mankind? Why would he say that he raised up our Founder's for that very purpose?

Doctrine and Covenants 101:80
80 And for this purpose have I established the Constitution of this land, by the hands of wise men whom I raised up unto this very purpose, and redeemed the land by the shedding of blood.

Our Government was meant to be based and ruled by the same Constitution God provided us with.

The Earthly governments will fail before God, because they will have all gone astray from his commandments, or if ideal, will surrender their authority to him. As far as the law goes REBELLION IS A LAST RESORT, and it shouldn't be about the person or the party, but about the fact that the law is corrupt and destructive of people's liberties. The first resort should always be to peaceably communicate grievances.

Fred wrote: ↑January 20th, 2021, 11:52 am

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑January 20th, 2021, 11:43 am

Fred wrote: ↑January 20th, 2021, 12:42 am

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑January 17th, 2021, 7:10 pm The best way to deal with this nonsense is to wear an overly silly mask to church and get everyone else to do it too.

That is actually a pretty good idea. What would we print on the mask. Here is a place that custom prints a mask for only $3.99 https://www.discountmugs.com/product/ma ... oth-masks/ There are actually quite a few different companies that will custom print masks if you search.

Maybe if people post their ideas about a mask that would actually hammer the point, we can all buy some and show just how silly masks are.

Haha, i'm talking about full-on Halloween masks. The crazier, the better.

Oh. I misunderstood. I thought you meant like putting sayings like these only better ones on the masks:

Are masks the sign of the beast?

How can a mask stop something so small? It can't.

My Bishop thinks masks work. Is your Bishop stupid, also?

Pres Nelson says the Luciferase shot is a Godsend. What do you think?

Did Jesus ever wear a mask?

Only idiots think masks work

Go to Hell, wear a mask

What do Satan and the deep state have in common? They want us to wear masks.

If you hate freedom, wear a mask

Forget Faith, wear a mask

Entrance to Hell requires a mask

Nothing is dumber than wearing a mask

Real doctors know masks don't work. Why doesn't the church?

Gong and Renlund both caught covid while wearing a mask

Masks are more effective than pornography in destroying minds

Does anyone else know masks are stupid?

Fags are welcome but not exposed faces

Destroy a child, make it wear a mask

Of course you hate your children. Why else tell them to wear a mask?

Even Fauci knows masks don't work

If it don't stop a fart, it won't stop a virus

Cloth and mesh are likewise useless for asbestos and spray paint. I wouldn't trust one in the wood shop. Not only that, but touching your mask is touching something that attracts chemical contaminants.

InfoWarrior82 wrote: ↑January 18th, 2021, 1:37 pm

Gospel Donkey wrote: ↑January 18th, 2021, 1:27 pm

Fred wrote: ↑January 18th, 2021, 9:12 am

Masks are zero effective against a virus a thousand times smaller than a hair. It is not physically possible for them to stop a virus. Asymptomatic people can NOT spread the virus. There is not a single case where this has happened. Anyone that is hacking goobers should stay home or wear a mask Otherwise it is merely a sign of Satan worship.

Not true, the virus are expelled out the human body attached to cells or moisture droplets, easily trapped by a mask. Fake pseudo science that goes against the reality on the ground, and experience over hundreds of years.

Why do surgeons wear masks during operations, and dentists, all the dentists and surgeons are idiots and should be fired alone with church leadership as they are all mind controlled by big gov.

Surgeons wear masks to prevent bacteria-ridden spittle from going into an open wound while talking. They do not perform operations when they have a virus. They are at home, resting.

Have you worn your mask outside in the freezing temperatures yet? What is that steam-like stuff coming from your mask? What is it? Are those water droplets? Yes! They are! Congratulations! You have figured it out!

Watching the Vape tests is a good visual aid...

Gospel Donkey wrote: ↑January 18th, 2021, 1:27 pm

Fred wrote: ↑January 18th, 2021, 9:12 am

Masks are zero effective against a virus a thousand times smaller than a hair. It is not physically possible for them to stop a virus. Asymptomatic people can NOT spread the virus. There is not a single case where this has happened. Anyone that is hacking goobers should stay home or wear a mask Otherwise it is merely a sign of Satan worship.

Not true, the virus are expelled out the human body attached to cells or moisture droplets, easily trapped by a mask. Fake pseudo science that goes against the reality on the ground, and experience over hundreds of years.

Why do surgeons wear masks during operations, and dentists, all the dentists and surgeons are idiots and should be fired alone with church leadership as they are all mind controlled by big gov.

Cloth masks are highly ineffective at stopping an airborne virus or bacteria. In fact, exhaling in a Nylon mesh mask, in spite of the cool black look, the exhaled water droplets which contain airborne viruses including the flu and the common cold or even airborne bacteria such as Tuberculosis, go through the nylon mask. Cloth masks are good for catching drool or blocking blood splatter. However, when you exhale, the sides of the mask open up and become unsealed, letting out the germs carrying water droplets out the sides, and these droplets can remain airborne for anywhere ranging from half an hour to an hour.

When you are indoors, it gets worse as the air largely stays within the room and no wind to disperse or raise it up into the sky. Ventilation also carries your exhaled air to the other rooms in the house, and that can be mitigated moreso by having a HEPA Filter combined with UV radiation than just a mask. Without ventilation, your expelled droplets will gradually go all around the room.
The other part about your cloth mask opening up is that it also means that you inhale air from outside the mask through the temporary opening that is created from you exhaling, making cloth masks useless against poisonous chemical aerosols, long term asbestos exposure, and even airborne viruses. Coughing can make even bigger openings on the sides of the cloth masks, both letting out more of your exhaled droplets through those openings. In short, masks aren't all that effective for hazmat or viruses if they are cloth, paper, or nylon mesh, and especially if you are sharing a household or room with an infected person.

On top of all this, ask yourself: Why don't masks negate stay at home rules for sick people? Why can you still count as exposed by sharing a room or close proximity to an infected person even if you are both wearing masks?

While it may seem as if I am writing a doom and gloom post. I am not. The real problem is what we have had for a long time where people who are sick are walking around when they should be resting it off or at least calling their friends and workplace to know about, "hey I have a coughing problem or a fever".