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from: https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=62008

"Operation Trust" was a Bolshevik counterintelligence operation run from 1921 to 1926 aimed at neutralizing opposition by creating the false impression that a powerful group of military leaders had organized to stop the communists' takeover.

The similarities with the Q-Anon "Trust The Plan™" psy-op are remarkable.

Too many believe the promise that the military is working in the background to take down deep state players. This idea that we ought to simply 'trust the plan' gives false hope and wastes opportunity for action. This Q movement is meant to pacify conservatives and defuse true efforts to restore freedom. It's well past time to be more rigorous and intellectually honest in our consumption and sharing of news.

I could not agree more. Thank you so much for posting this, nvr. 'New Lies for Old', and 'The Perestroika Deception' should be required reading for all who want to understand what is going on.

THANK YOU!

I just saw this and was coming here to post it. This is extremely important. Someone in the comments said the same thing happened to Venezuela. This hurts to see our country getting sold out right in front of our noses.

I want to believe the hopium, anything at all to find a little hope. However, apparently none of it has been true, which makes one wonder about a lot of people. It’s hard to know who to believe any more.

Question: If there had been no hope, would we, in fact, have behaved differently, and if so, how? At least with all our false hope, we came out to the rallies and car and truck parades, the huge pro-Trump flotillas, etc. And we were given a visual glimpse of how many we are. We united around a man and his ideas... and not all of them were necessarily the best ideas, but he was so much better than the alternative, and he was taking such a beating for us that we felt a lot of gratitude and even affection for him...and for each other. He was uniting, not divisive, except for a few.

If there had been no hope, I think I would have withdrawn and focused on how my family was going to survive. I don’t think any of us would have gone to Washington with our guns, though. So how would we have responded differently?

"Thus, the real challenge in all this is being able to discern who is a good faith person vs. a bad faith actor.

Right now, bad faith actors abound.

The bad faith actors are pushing a modern-day version of “Operation Trust,” which was a Bolshevik psyop run in the 1920s to convince the country that the military was running a secret operation to stop the communists from taking over. As InformationLiberation.com reports:

“Operation Trust” was a Bolshevik counterintelligence operation run from 1921 to 1926 aimed at neutralizing opposition by creating the false impression that a powerful group of military leaders had organized to stop the communists’ takeover.

The one Western historian who had limited access to the Trust files, John Costello, reported that they comprised thirty-seven volumes and were such a bewildering welter of double-agents, changed code names, and interlocking deception operations with “the complexity of a symphonic score”, that Russian historians from the Intelligence Service had difficulty separating fact from fantasy.

There is now no question that we are being run by a similar psyop in America, complete with fake names, mysterious identities, double agents and bold deception operations.

As a result, it appears the deep state has managed to run delays for four years, preventing any real day of reckoning for left-wing traitors, while rigging the elections and stealing the White House, even managing to prevent patriots from rising up by claiming people should “trust the plan.”

The real plan, it seems, was to pacify patriots and overthrow our constitutional republic, and that plan is now mere days from being wrapped up. Importantly, there will never be a legitimate election in America ever again, because the deep state has now corrupted literally everything: The courts, Congress, Big Tech, the media, universities, fact-checkers and so on. Elections will always be rigged from this day forward, and voting is now entirely irrelevant to the “outcome” of any election.

There are still narrow pathways to victory that may yet emerge — and there’s always the possibility of divine intervention if God chooses to save our nation —
...
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https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-01-16- ... c-war.html#

Allison wrote: ↑January 16th, 2021, 7:00 pm I want to believe the hopium, anything at all to find a little hope. However, apparently none of it has been true, which makes one wonder about a lot of people. It’s hard to know who to believe any more.

Question: If there had been no hope, would we, in fact, have behaved differently, and if so, how? At least with all our false hope, we came out to the rallies and car and truck parades, the huge pro-Trump flotillas, etc. And we were given a visual glimpse of how many we are. We united around a man and his ideas... and not all of them were necessarily the best ideas, but he was so much better than the alternative, and he was taking such a beating for us that we felt a lot of gratitude and even affection for him...and for each other. He was uniting, not divisive, except for a few.

If there had been no hope, I think I would have withdrawn and focused on how my family was going to survive. I don’t think any of us would have gone to Washington with our guns, though. So how would we have responded differently?

The alternative was that real truth tellers would rise to power, or those who were not compromised that they couldn't control. The bad guys know that there will always be opposition, so the way you ensure you win is to compromise and control as many of the "good" guys as you can, or get some to lie for you. A leader who told the truth would not just say that we were being manipulated by China and Russia intelligence and work to do something about corruption, but would actually do something about it, so that's the alternative. A truth teller would not only explain how our country was on the path to financial ruin, but actually take steps to decrease that fate. Trump talked the talk, but didn't walk the walk, and I personally believe it's because he has been compromised for a long time, he has a reputation of lying, and a background of acting.

Allison wrote: ↑January 16th, 2021, 7:00 pm I want to believe the hopium, anything at all to find a little hope. However, apparently none of it has been true, which makes one wonder about a lot of people. It’s hard to know who to believe any more.

Question: If there had been no hope, would we, in fact, have behaved differently, and if so, how? At least with all our false hope, we came out to the rallies and car and truck parades, the huge pro-Trump flotillas, etc. And we were given a visual glimpse of how many we are. We united around a man and his ideas... and not all of them were necessarily the best ideas, but he was so much better than the alternative, and he was taking such a beating for us that we felt a lot of gratitude and even affection for him...and for each other. He was uniting, not divisive, except for a few.

If there had been no hope, I think I would have withdrawn and focused on how my family was going to survive. I don’t think any of us would have gone to Washington with our guns, though. So how would we have responded differently?

search.php?keywords=hopium

Hopium is a thing, and gave me ideas of how one may relate ones post rate to same-digit numbers. Hopium may well describe atomic weight 127, in similitude to 1.27 posts per day. I heard a voice speak to me upon clicking about this link: https://www.audioenglish.org/dictionary ... er_108.htm

That makes two new words for today.

108 is 9 x 12, so it motivated me to learn the times table to include 12 x12, which is an interesting number, made readily apparent in the scriptures.

Russia, but not China dbnp

Are we positive that the whole Insurrection Act scenario is false, really? How do we know this?

Sarah wrote: ↑January 16th, 2021, 7:49 pm

Allison wrote: ↑January 16th, 2021, 7:00 pm I want to believe the hopium, anything at all to find a little hope. However, apparently none of it has been true, which makes one wonder about a lot of people. It’s hard to know who to believe any more.

Question: If there had been no hope, would we, in fact, have behaved differently, and if so, how? At least with all our false hope, we came out to the rallies and car and truck parades, the huge pro-Trump flotillas, etc. And we were given a visual glimpse of how many we are. We united around a man and his ideas... and not all of them were necessarily the best ideas, but he was so much better than the alternative, and he was taking such a beating for us that we felt a lot of gratitude and even affection for him...and for each other. He was uniting, not divisive, except for a few.

If there had been no hope, I think I would have withdrawn and focused on how my family was going to survive. I don’t think any of us would have gone to Washington with our guns, though. So how would we have responded differently?

The alternative was that real truth tellers would rise to power, or those who were not compromised that they couldn't control. The bad guys know that there will always be opposition, so the way you ensure you win is to compromise and control as many of the "good" guys as you can, or get some to lie for you. A leader who told the truth would not just say that we were being manipulated by China and Russia intelligence and work to do something about corruption, but would actually do something about it, so that's the alternative. A truth teller would not only explain how our country was on the path to financial ruin, but actually take steps to decrease that fate. Trump talked the talk, but didn't walk the walk, and I personally believe it's because he has been compromised for a long time, he has a reputation of lying, and a background of acting.

But...your idea of a truth teller is Mitt Romney, right?

BeNotDeceived wrote: ↑January 16th, 2021, 7:50 pm

Allison wrote: ↑January 16th, 2021, 7:00 pm I want to believe the hopium, anything at all to find a little hope. However, apparently none of it has been true, which makes one wonder about a lot of people. It’s hard to know who to believe any more.

Question: If there had been no hope, would we, in fact, have behaved differently, and if so, how? At least with all our false hope, we came out to the rallies and car and truck parades, the huge pro-Trump flotillas, etc. And we were given a visual glimpse of how many we are. We united around a man and his ideas... and not all of them were necessarily the best ideas, but he was so much better than the alternative, and he was taking such a beating for us that we felt a lot of gratitude and even affection for him...and for each other. He was uniting, not divisive, except for a few.

If there had been no hope, I think I would have withdrawn and focused on how my family was going to survive. I don’t think any of us would have gone to Washington with our guns, though. So how would we have responded differently?

search.php?keywords=hopium

Hopium is a thing, and gave me ideas of how one may relate ones post rate to same-digit numbers. Hopium may well describe atomic weight 127, in similitude to 1.27 posts per day. I heard a voice speak to me upon clicking about this link: https://www.audioenglish.org/dictionary ... er_108.htm

That makes two new words for today.

108 is 9 x 12, so it motivated me to learn the times table to include 12 x12, which is an interesting number, made readily apparent in the scriptures.

Russia, but not China dbnp

Huh?

As long as there was an ounce of hope, some people chilled and waited as opposed to participating in a violent act which would not have helped anyone. A person without hope is unpredictable. A man that is hungry is dangerous, but only to fill his hunger. A man without hope can easily kill. Sometimes themselves. Hope is not a good thing to lose.

Allison wrote: ↑January 16th, 2021, 7:56 pm

Sarah wrote: ↑January 16th, 2021, 7:49 pm

Allison wrote: ↑January 16th, 2021, 7:00 pm I want to believe the hopium, anything at all to find a little hope. However, apparently none of it has been true, which makes one wonder about a lot of people. It’s hard to know who to believe any more.

Question: If there had been no hope, would we, in fact, have behaved differently, and if so, how? At least with all our false hope, we came out to the rallies and car and truck parades, the huge pro-Trump flotillas, etc. And we were given a visual glimpse of how many we are. We united around a man and his ideas... and not all of them were necessarily the best ideas, but he was so much better than the alternative, and he was taking such a beating for us that we felt a lot of gratitude and even affection for him...and for each other. He was uniting, not divisive, except for a few.

If there had been no hope, I think I would have withdrawn and focused on how my family was going to survive. I don’t think any of us would have gone to Washington with our guns, though. So how would we have responded differently?

The alternative was that real truth tellers would rise to power, or those who were not compromised that they couldn't control. The bad guys know that there will always be opposition, so the way you ensure you win is to compromise and control as many of the "good" guys as you can, or get some to lie for you. A leader who told the truth would not just say that we were being manipulated by China and Russia intelligence and work to do something about corruption, but would actually do something about it, so that's the alternative. A truth teller would not only explain how our country was on the path to financial ruin, but actually take steps to decrease that fate. Trump talked the talk, but didn't walk the walk, and I personally believe it's because he has been compromised for a long time, he has a reputation of lying, and a background of acting.

But...your idea of a truth teller is Mitt Romney, right?

Not necessarily, but I think so. I got the feeling from him that he strives for integrity. But I don't know his heart. I know I was suspicious that Ron Paul was compromised when he didn't come out strongly against what Trump was doing. He finally seemed to start complaining more about the Fed, but I don't follow him so I don't know. I like Romney and always have because he has spoken out against Russia and Trump when it wasn't popular for a Repub to do so. But he is right in my opinion.

Allison wrote: ↑January 16th, 2021, 7:57 pm Huh?

https://youtu.be/yKKPepsQEfI

Oh sorry, got me Atomic Weight mixed up with me Atomic Number. Searching "Hopium' found posts going back to 2010, a most remarkable year it turns out. Tin is atomic weight 127 though, and who doesn't love the tin man, if he only had a ♡.

If this is all fake, can someone describe how all these independent Christian prophets are predicting the nation being saved in a miraculous situation? Where's that coming from? Is the devil doing that?

Chip wrote: ↑January 16th, 2021, 8:56 pm If this is all fake, can someone describe how all these independent Christian prophets are predicting the nation being saved in a miraculous situation? Where's that coming from? Is the devil doing that?

reminds me of a video I came across - the original was taken down apparently, but this guy has it starting at minute 38:38.

It's not that we should never have had any hope - it's that to trust this anonymous entity, Q, who came out of nowhere with this plan saying no need to worry, was unwise.

We should look at everything a source is saying, verify if it's logical and ask things like, 'How could someone on the inside be able to leak so much information continually about such a powerful group of corrupt people and not get found out by now?' or 'Are they just mixing in some truth with a load of speculation or really esoteric fluff?'

Our sources should have a track record for being truthful on the issues, especially unpopular ones like political conspiracies, false flag attacks, social engineering efforts, and the history of the US overstepping its bounds in foreign affairs. They should be intellectually honest and have nothing to gain. On other issues that we know the truth about, what do they have to say?

Seeking the gift of discernment may be the only surefire method to know truth going forward. Things would be a lot different if we, from the beginning, all pushed back against the social distancing lockdown garbage.
They'd of had a hard time justifying mass mail-in ballots if most people ignored the Covid mandates, kept businesses open, went to church, and kept the deceptive mass media news switched off.

Sarah wrote: ↑January 16th, 2021, 9:26 pm

Chip wrote: ↑January 16th, 2021, 8:56 pm If this is all fake, can someone describe how all these independent Christian prophets are predicting the nation being saved in a miraculous situation? Where's that coming from? Is the devil doing that?

reminds me of a video I came across - the original was taken down apparently, but this guy has it starting at minute 38:38.

So, Fox News is telling the truth, and this servant is not?

https://youtu.be/FoBjhG6SM7k

The fruit of our church has become materialistic unbelief.

God is going to perform a huge miracle.

Thanks to the OP for this and the other comments. If you’ve been to the temple, this should make more sense. Satan has his own “resources” and has been using them in every dispensation...we’re seeing all the stops pulled as time is getting short and there is many souls to steal, cheat and lie to...deception is on a biblical scale. The gift of discernment is critical...pray for it.

Keep your faith focused as miracles await us and they’ll come in different ways for each of us as we rely on Him “who is mighty to save”. We may not agree on everything, but we know in whom we place our trust.

Thanks to you all for also keeping my critical thinking skills in shape!

Chip wrote: ↑January 16th, 2021, 8:56 pm If this is all fake, can someone describe how all these independent Christian prophets are predicting the nation being saved in a miraculous situation? Where's that coming from? Is the devil doing that?

Yup

They're going to keep moving the goal post, and it looks like you're going to keep believing them.

Joe Biden will be inaugurated, and you'll feel a little let down.... And then Johnny Appleseed will upload another prophecy,moving the damn goal post all the way down the field with, " well my prophecy would have happened if we would have prayed hard enough" ..... Or " People didn't make the right choices so my prophecy didn't happen". blah blah blah
And " in a few months time, the white hats will take back the White House!!!"

Like I've been saying for months.... you're being spoon-fed disinformation from Q and the uploading prophets

Stop. Eating. It.

nightlight wrote: ↑January 16th, 2021, 10:00 pm

Chip wrote: ↑January 16th, 2021, 8:56 pm If this is all fake, can someone describe how all these independent Christian prophets are predicting the nation being saved in a miraculous situation? Where's that coming from? Is the devil doing that?

Yup

They're going to keep moving the goal post, and it looks like you're going to keep believing them.

Joe Biden will be inaugurated, and you'll feel a little let down.... And then Johnny Appleseed will upload another prophecy,moving the damn goal post all the way down the field with, " well my prophecy would have happened if we would have prayed hard enough" ..... Or " People didn't make the right choices so my prophecy didn't happen". blah blah blah
And " in a few months time, the white hats will take back the White House!!!"

Like I've been saying for months.... you're being spoon-fed disinformation from Q and the uploading prophets

Stop. Eating. It.

I understand what you are getting at.

Can you explain why all these Christians are saying the same things? Mark Taylor had awareness of this in 2011. There were others much earlier on. Where is it coming from?

Chip wrote: ↑January 16th, 2021, 10:12 pm

nightlight wrote: ↑January 16th, 2021, 10:00 pm

Chip wrote: ↑January 16th, 2021, 8:56 pm If this is all fake, can someone describe how all these independent Christian prophets are predicting the nation being saved in a miraculous situation? Where's that coming from? Is the devil doing that?

Yup

They're going to keep moving the goal post, and it looks like you're going to keep believing them.

Joe Biden will be inaugurated, and you'll feel a little let down.... And then Johnny Appleseed will upload another prophecy,moving the damn goal post all the way down the field with, " well my prophecy would have happened if we would have prayed hard enough" ..... Or " People didn't make the right choices so my prophecy didn't happen". blah blah blah
And " in a few months time, the white hats will take back the White House!!!"

Like I've been saying for months.... you're being spoon-fed disinformation from Q and the uploading prophets

Stop. Eating. It.

I understand what you are getting at.

Can you explain why all these Christians are saying the same things? Mark Taylor had awareness of this in 2011. There were others much earlier on. Where is it coming from?

where did Joseph Smith get his prophecy about selling the rights of the Book of Mormon in Canada?

nightlight wrote: ↑January 16th, 2021, 10:24 pm

Chip wrote: ↑January 16th, 2021, 10:12 pm

nightlight wrote: ↑January 16th, 2021, 10:00 pm

Chip wrote: ↑January 16th, 2021, 8:56 pm If this is all fake, can someone describe how all these independent Christian prophets are predicting the nation being saved in a miraculous situation? Where's that coming from? Is the devil doing that?

Yup

They're going to keep moving the goal post, and it looks like you're going to keep believing them.

Joe Biden will be inaugurated, and you'll feel a little let down.... And then Johnny Appleseed will upload another prophecy,moving the damn goal post all the way down the field with, " well my prophecy would have happened if we would have prayed hard enough" ..... Or " People didn't make the right choices so my prophecy didn't happen". blah blah blah
And " in a few months time, the white hats will take back the White House!!!"

Like I've been saying for months.... you're being spoon-fed disinformation from Q and the uploading prophets

Stop. Eating. It.

I understand what you are getting at.

Can you explain why all these Christians are saying the same things? Mark Taylor had awareness of this in 2011. There were others much earlier on. Where is it coming from?

where did Joseph Smith get his prophecy about selling the rights of the Book of Mormon in Canada?

So, you believe it must be Satan who is inspiring all these people to say these things, while admonishing them to pray, fast, and put their trust in God. And to bring up many Old Testament stories or everyone's edification. I don't think the devil works like that. Do you, really?

Chip wrote: ↑January 16th, 2021, 8:56 pm If this is all fake, can someone describe how all these independent Christian prophets are predicting the nation being saved in a miraculous situation? Where's that coming from? Is the devil doing that?

Unfortunately with the five g towers it is increasingly easier to implant imagery and words into people's minds. The still small voice requires extra strain these days due to the satanic airwaves. Maybe they start out genuine and then get targeted and it is hard to discern.