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Everyone is really upset right now (me included) but you can't act until commanded by the lord. You won't have his support if you start a war even a civil war that you believe is justified without his blessing.

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markharr wrote: ↑January 6th, 2021, 1:03 pm Everyone is really upset right now (me included) but you can't act until commanded by the lord. You won't have his support if you start a war even a civil war that you believe is justified without his blessing.
Shall we wait for the 15 to sound the charge? :lol:

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BeNotDeceived wrote: ↑January 6th, 2021, 1:05 pm
markharr wrote: ↑January 6th, 2021, 1:03 pm Everyone is really upset right now (me included) but you can't act until commanded by the lord. You won't have his support if you start a war even a civil war that you believe is justified without his blessing.
Shall we wait for the 15 to sound the charge? :lol:
Based on scriptural precedent there might not be a charge. You might be commanded to gather all of your belongings and barricade yourself off in a place of safety while you just fend off any attacks for seven years.

That is what happened with governor Lachoneus.

The order might be to retreat. Sometimes that is the order God gives.

Are you ready for that?

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Pffffft. Here's some real patriotism for you
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Hypocrites

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SmallFarm wrote: ↑January 6th, 2021, 1:18 pmHypocrites
Could this be the start of something bigger? If they prevent the vote from happening today and then do it tomorrow . . .

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markharr wrote: ↑January 6th, 2021, 1:11 pm That is what happened with governor Lachoneus.
Anything more than that to go on?

Time works differently in Tralfamadore. :lol:

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CosmicMind wrote: ↑January 6th, 2021, 1:26 pm
SmallFarm wrote: ↑January 6th, 2021, 1:18 pmHypocrites
Could this be the start of something bigger? If they prevent the vote from happening today and then do it tomorrow . . .
Of course this is something bigger. Trump and the republican party have been fomenting sedition for weeks. :roll:

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SmallFarm wrote: ↑January 6th, 2021, 1:29 pm
CosmicMind wrote: ↑January 6th, 2021, 1:26 pm
SmallFarm wrote: ↑January 6th, 2021, 1:18 pmHypocrites
Could this be the start of something bigger? If they prevent the vote from happening today and then do it tomorrow . . .
Of course this is something bigger. Trump and the republican party have been fomenting sedition for weeks. :roll:
Only if you believe the vote was valid. If you believe the vote was fraudulent then no.

In every civil war, each side believes they are the ones fighting for what is right. If you ignore that fact then you will end up creating the very thing that you do not want.

The only way to create compromise is to honestly believe the other side truly believes in what they are fighting for-then you can formulate a solution that will be acceptable. If you believe the other side is "seditious" then the civil war just gets hotter.

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Set up after set up continues...

Like Congress had no clue something like this could/ would happen??

DC mayor calls up National Guard for small stuff--where are they today?

"Hide under your desks..."

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CosmicMind wrote: ↑January 6th, 2021, 1:31 pm
SmallFarm wrote: ↑January 6th, 2021, 1:29 pm
CosmicMind wrote: ↑January 6th, 2021, 1:26 pm
SmallFarm wrote: ↑January 6th, 2021, 1:18 pmHypocrites
Could this be the start of something bigger? If they prevent the vote from happening today and then do it tomorrow . . .
Of course this is something bigger. Trump and the republican party have been fomenting sedition for weeks. :roll:
Only if you believe the vote was valid. If you believe the vote was fraudulent then no.

In every civil war, each side believes they are the ones fighting for what is right. If you ignore that fact then you will end up creating the very thing that you do not want.

The only way to create compromise is to honestly believe the other side truly believes in what they are fighting for-then you can formulate a solution that will be acceptable. If you believe the other side is "seditious" then the civil war just gets hotter.

This means the concerns about voter fraud have to actually be investigated and addressed not just dismissed as a "conspiracy theory'. That is how you get people to accept the outcome of the election. Prove to them that it was fair.

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Same bat time, same bat channel, tomorrow. :P

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I wonder if Trump supporters will ever wake up to how he duped them. Fifth consecutive term? Naw... they'll REALLY think he's great then...

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markharr wrote: ↑January 6th, 2021, 1:37 pm
CosmicMind wrote: ↑January 6th, 2021, 1:31 pm
SmallFarm wrote: ↑January 6th, 2021, 1:29 pm
CosmicMind wrote: ↑January 6th, 2021, 1:26 pm

Could this be the start of something bigger? If they prevent the vote from happening today and then do it tomorrow . . .
Of course this is something bigger. Trump and the republican party have been fomenting sedition for weeks. :roll:
Only if you believe the vote was valid. If you believe the vote was fraudulent then no.

In every civil war, each side believes they are the ones fighting for what is right. If you ignore that fact then you will end up creating the very thing that you do not want.

The only way to create compromise is to honestly believe the other side truly believes in what they are fighting for-then you can formulate a solution that will be acceptable. If you believe the other side is "seditious" then the civil war just gets hotter.

This means the concerns about voter fraud have to actually be investigated and addressed not just dismissed as a "conspiracy theory'. That is how you get people to accept the outcome of the election. Prove to them that it was fair.
Exactly.

It's why, while I severely disagree with BLM/Antifa, they do have a point about militarization of the police and way too many incidents of police shooting unarmed individuals. I am for a solutions that would take care of this issue; unfortunately because too many people ignored this for too long the solutions BLM/Antifa want are solutions which swing too far.

If this election integrity issue is not addressed now-it will get much, much worse in the future. The revolution may not happen this cycle, but come 2024, it's going to be on like donkey kong.

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SmallFarm wrote: ↑January 6th, 2021, 1:40 pm I wonder if Trump supporters will ever wake up to how he duped them. Fifth consecutive term? Naw... they'll REALLY think he's great then...
America First?
Build a Wall?

Which duping? Oh you mean how he had a R majority in 2016-2018 that torpedoed any of that. McCain's vote on ObamaCare is the prime example.

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SmallFarm wrote: ↑January 6th, 2021, 1:40 pm I wonder if Trump supporters will ever wake up to how he duped them. Fifth consecutive term? Naw... they'll REALLY think he's great then...
I can almost guarantee you that if you are in any way conservative, you'll throwing your lot in with the Trumpites (or whatever they will be called in 2024). The next 2 years and then the 2 after that are going to make it crystal clear what people who voted for Trump were fighting against.

Polarization, it's unfortunate and I don't like it, I don't want it to happen-but it's what is going to happen.

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So just what is the other side really fighting for?

Complete overthrow of the freedom of America, including:
Higher and more confiscatory taxes?
More socialism supported by legal plunder?
More federal government handouts?
More foreign aid?
Eventual confiscation of privately owned firearms?
Open borders - more refugees and illegal immigrants?
Subordination of America to the planned global government?

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lundbaek wrote: ↑January 6th, 2021, 1:51 pm So just what is the other side really fighting for?

Complete overthrow of the freedom of America, including:
Higher and more confiscatory taxes?
More socialism supported by legal plunder?
More federal government handouts?
More foreign aid?
Eventual confiscation of privately owned firearms?
Open borders - more refugees and illegal immigrants?
Subordination of America to the planned global government?
The ones that are pulling the strings, the leaders yes, Warnock stated the US has a virus called COVID-1619.

A lot of people who voted for Biden-no, they were just duped into believing he was the devil.

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If DC burns, then we revert back to free and independent states right?

#TEXIT

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markharr wrote: ↑January 6th, 2021, 1:03 pm Everyone is really upset right now (me included) but you can't act until commanded by the lord. You won't have his support if you start a war even a civil war that you believe is justified without his blessing.
Well if the Lord inspired the Constitution, and the Constitution states that when a government because tyrannical... it is the people's duty to abolish it.

So........

" That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on ..."

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nightlight wrote: ↑January 6th, 2021, 1:55 pm
markharr wrote: ↑January 6th, 2021, 1:03 pm Everyone is really upset right now (me included) but you can't act until commanded by the lord. You won't have his support if you start a war even a civil war that you believe is justified without his blessing.
Well if the Lord inspired the Constitution, and the Constitution states that when a government because tyrannical... it is the people's duty to abolish it.

So........

" That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on ..."
Declaration, not Constitution

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lundbaek wrote: ↑January 6th, 2021, 1:51 pm So just what is the other side really fighting for?

Complete overthrow of the freedom of America, including:
Higher and more confiscatory taxes?
More socialism supported by legal plunder?
More federal government handouts?
More foreign aid?
Eventual confiscation of privately owned firearms?
Subordination of America to the planned global government?

Yes.

But let God Bring the judgments. Proverbs 24

17Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth, and let not thine heart be glad when he stumbleth:

18Lest the LORD see it, and it displease him, and he turn away his wrath from him.

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nightlight wrote: ↑January 6th, 2021, 1:55 pm
markharr wrote: ↑January 6th, 2021, 1:03 pm Everyone is really upset right now (me included) but you can't act until commanded by the lord. You won't have his support if you start a war even a civil war that you believe is justified without his blessing.
Well if the Lord inspired the Constitution, and the Constitution states that when a government because tyrannical... it is the people's duty to abolish it.

So........

" That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on ..."
I don't think they are mutually exclusive. The constitution says we have the right to do it. The scriptures say we should do it in the right way and as God commands.

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markharr wrote: ↑January 6th, 2021, 1:03 pm Everyone is really upset right now (me included) but you can't act until commanded by the lord. You won't have his support if you start a war even a civil war that you believe is justified without his blessing.
That boat has already sailed long ago.

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