Its Going Down! Ted Cruz Leads Senators In Challenge to Electoral Count, Demands Emergency Audit

[SPIRIT]

Ted Cruz Leads Senators In Challenge To Wednesday Electoral Count; Demands Emergency Audit
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/ted ... ency-audit

US Senator Ted Cruz and 10 other Republicans announced plans to raise objections to formalizing Democrat Joe Biden's presidential election victory, setting up a potentially drawn-out political showdown over certifying the result.-

Its Going Down! Ted Cruz Leads Senators In Challenge to Electoral Count, Demands Emergency Audit

[LDS Physician]

They can try, but only a true miracle will result in a change. My understanding is that both the senate and the house would need to vote in the majority to overturn any state's electorates. Since the house is majority democrat, they'd have to get every republican AND at least 6 democrats to vote that way. No way that's happening.

[gkearney]

All this amounts to is political theatre performed for the benefit of the true Trump believers. It will not work because to throw out a slate of electors a majority of BOTH the U.S. House of Representatives and the Senate must vote in favour. The Democrats control the House so there is no way possible in that chamber and it is even a far from a sure thing in the Senate. So dream on people the only thing that is going down here is the fantasy land some have constructed for themselves to keep Trump in office.

[markharr]

They can try, but only a true miracle will result in a change. My understanding is that both the senate and the house would need to vote in the majority to overturn any state's electorates. Since the house is majority democrat, they'd have to get every republican AND at least 6 democrats to vote that way. No way that's happening.

It doesn't work that way. The president of the senate (Pence) leads a joint session and each state gets one vote. GOP holds more states but I doubt it will go Trumps way even with that.

Its in the constitution as the 12th amendment.

But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states,

[LDS Physician]

They can try, but only a true miracle will result in a change. My understanding is that both the senate and the house would need to vote in the majority to overturn any state's electorates. Since the house is majority democrat, they'd have to get every republican AND at least 6 democrats to vote that way. No way that's happening.

It doesn't work that way. The president of the senate (Pence) leads a joint session and each state gets one vote. GOP holds more states but I doubt it will go Trumps way even with that.

Its in the constitution as the 12th amendment.

But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states,

I believe you're incorrect. If a state's electorate votes are challenged by a member of congress and that challenge is supported by a senator, then each body meets together to debate and decide if they want to overturn that state's votes. There is practically no way the house which is majority democrat will vote to overturn any state's votes.

It's not as you say... the "each state gets one vote" phenomenon only happens if both the house and the senate agree that a vote like that needs to happen. Look it up.

[gkearney]

They can try, but only a true miracle will result in a change. My understanding is that both the senate and the house would need to vote in the majority to overturn any state's electorates. Since the house is majority democrat, they'd have to get every republican AND at least 6 democrats to vote that way. No way that's happening.

It doesn't work that way. The president of the senate (Pence) leads a joint session and each state gets one vote. GOP holds more states but I doubt it will go Trumps way even with that.

Its in the constitution as the 12th amendment.

But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states,

Wrong! The one vote per state option only come into play when and if there is no majority of electoral votes for a candidate. So to get to this both the house and senate would have to disqualify, by votes of the majority of members of each body, enough slates of electors to give neither Trump nor Biden 270 electoral votes.

People are getting two voting situations confused. A challenge to a states electors must carry by a simple majority of the MEMBERS of both the House and the Senate. The vote for President where no one has won a majority of electoral votes is by state deligations in the house for President and by simple majority in the Senate for the Vice President. That is two different situations and the second, the state delegations voting can only happen if the first, members voting results in less than 270 electoral votes.

[LDS Physician]

They can try, but only a true miracle will result in a change. My understanding is that both the senate and the house would need to vote in the majority to overturn any state's electorates. Since the house is majority democrat, they'd have to get every republican AND at least 6 democrats to vote that way. No way that's happening.

It doesn't work that way. The president of the senate (Pence) leads a joint session and each state gets one vote. GOP holds more states but I doubt it will go Trumps way even with that.

Its in the constitution as the 12th amendment.

But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states,

Wrong! The one vote per state option only come into play when and if there is no majority of electoral votes for a candidate. So to get to this both the house and senate would have to disqualify, by votes of the majority of members of each body, enough slates of electors to give neither Trump nor Biden 270 electoral votes.

People are getting two voting situations confused. A challenge to a states electors must carry by a simple majority of the MEMBERS of both the House and the Senate. The vote for President where no one has won a majority of electoral votes is by state deligations in the house for President and by simple majority in the Senate for the Vice President. That is two different situations and the second, the state delegations voting can only happen if the first, members voting results in less than 270 electoral votes.

Here's what I'm finding online (several places):

"A key thing to remember is that a member from the House and the Senate must lodge an objection, in writing, for it to be considered. It's not entirely clear if any senators will choose to do so, although newly elected Sen. Tommy Tuberville of Alabama indicated he would. But Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., has reportedly urged Republicans not to object. Objecting would put Republicans in the awkward position of supporting a challenge that is all but certain to fail.

If a senator does go along with a challenge, then the House and Senate retire to their own chambers, for a period of "not more than two hours," according to the Congressional Research Service, and members get up to five minutes to speak in favor or against the objection.

Then each chamber will vote, with a simple majority required to uphold the objection. Both chambers must agree to the objection for it to succeed."

[BeNotDeceived]

A Harvard Law professor said a majority of states for the first vote made sense, but will likely be contested. An act in 1887 also applies besides 12th Amendment which has strange passive language making it ambiguous. That’s my take, having watched Bannon’s war room and few other videos.

Georgia state legislatures could decertify except the governor won’t cooperate. 7 states could do similar. KENI & One America News is now available via Alexa for less filtering of the truth.

[Thinker]

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A Harvard Law professor said a majority of states for the first vote made sense, but will likely be contested. An act in 1887 also applies besides 12th Amendment which has strange passive language making it ambiguous. That’s my take, having watched Bannon’s war room and few other videos.

Georgia state legislatures could decertify except the governor won’t cooperate. 7 states could do similar. KENI & One America News is now available via Alexa for less filtering of the truth.

You speak English!!
I suppose it’s only when you really want to, as in exciting herring.

[BeNotDeceived]

You speak English!!
I suppose it’s only when you really want to, as in excititng herring.

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I forget what even a Red Herring is,
but may be germane to our conversation.

Herring, but not Exciting has one instance of a double letter before the comma, and none afterwards meeting the only rule for Deep, but not Profound.

My nameless friend sprung it on our ASR9 class, and one guy caught on real quick or was a veteran of dbnp. In retrospect I thought it likely that he was a veteran and it’s findable on the Internet.

I try not to spoil the game and mostly only disclose the rule of creating a tuple in forum #57, where search engines won’t see it.

It’s a great game, but you only are in the dark, until finally you figure it out as the originator and the veterans give example tuples, while challenging you to produce a new one that meets the rule.

Apparently there are fewer veterans that know the rule, than I at first imagined. Simply search dbnp, or a sister game (gbng) in Outer Darkness.

Ghost, but not Goblin gbng

Challenge: Can anyone spout a tuple that meets the rule of both games

Be the first, and you win a free audiobook, narrated by someone that guest starred on Hawaii Five-O.

[EmmaLee]

All this amounts to is political theatre performed for the benefit of the true Trump believers.
...
So dream on people the only thing that is going down here is the fantasy land some have constructed for themselves to keep Trump in office.

You're conveniently forgetting/leaving out a sizeable group of people - people who are not "true Trump believers" (whatever that retarded term is supposed to mean), but people who think legal and honest elections (AKA: election integrity - a word socialists have no concept of) are important and matter. This election was wrought with fraud - anybody with 1/2 a living brain cell knows that. There is, quite literally, no reason to vote in any U.S. election from here on out. For those of you who are orgasmic that your fellow-socialists have accomplished a full-on coup, and will be illegally occupying the White House soon, that of course, does not matter, and in fact - you are also orgasmic about the fact that our votes do not count anymore in the U.S. Just remember though, that the Left always and with relish, eats their own (and old people will be first to go).

So you and several others here on this forum formerly based on freedom, continue to ignore the fact that there are many groups of people who know what happened, and who know what it means for the United States and its people. Go ahead and continue blathering on about how it's just Trump supporters who are concerned about all this. Socialists, and especially Mormon socialists, are brilliant at fooling themselves.

[onefour1]

According to Judicial Watch, it sounds like when congress meets on the 6th, once an objection is raised by at least one in the House and one in the Senate. They then debate it for 2 hours and then vote on it. This is where the big question comes in is how the vote should be conducted. On one side each member of congress would vote in which case the Biden camp would win. On the other side, they should vote one vote per state in which case the Trump camp would win. So if it should be done according to the latter, Trump could win. This will be the ultimate fight in the courts as to how the law should be interpreted.

[JK4Woods]

They can try, but only a true miracle will result in a change. My understanding is that both the senate and the house would need to vote in the majority to overturn any state's electorates. Since the house is majority democrat, they'd have to get every republican AND at least 6 democrats to vote that way. No way that's happening.

Wait until the evidence is presented...
It just takes one Senator and one Representative to open up debate regarding vote tally fraud...

[LDS Physician]

They can try, but only a true miracle will result in a change. My understanding is that both the senate and the house would need to vote in the majority to overturn any state's electorates. Since the house is majority democrat, they'd have to get every republican AND at least 6 democrats to vote that way. No way that's happening.

Wait until the evidence is presented...
It just takes one Senator and one Representative to open up debate regarding vote tally fraud...

I agree. It's the next step that is next to impossible to overcome: majority approval of the objection of both houses. Very unlikely.

[gigarath24]

Republicans: 2016 was fair and 2020 was a fraud!!!!
Democrats:2016 was Russian interference and 2020 was democracy finally working for a change!!!!!!
Libertarians:2016 God help us all, 2020 Is there a God?

[JK4Woods]

Republicans: 2016 was fair and 2020 was a fraud!!!!
Democrats:2016 was Russian interference and 2020 was democracy finally working for a change!!!!!!
Libertarians:2016 God help us all, 2020 Is there a God?

Therein lies the rub.... no one is going to take this sitting down... it’s going to be a terrifying ride...

To clean out the seditious Kingmen, what did Captain Moroni and Pahoran have to do..??

Root then out and put to death those who actively fought against the laws of the land.

Then the other sympathizers in the Kingmen camp, were cast into prison, and those who renounced their allegiance to the Kingmen cause, were given the opportunity to defend their nation on the front lines, in military service against foreign invaders. We are seeing this very scenario playing out in real time.

If Trump is outed, the Liberals will quickly overturn every effort of personal constitutional rights, abortion, free speech and religion, etc etc. This will, of course, mean that there will be no end of fighting (posturing) in the political arena, and perhaps rudeness and smugness will be ever present on the streets.

Likewise, if Trump is re-seated into the Oval Office, the Antifa mobs will bypass grousing, and will take to the streets with rioting and mayhem. (As standard practice, they will initially destroy their own liberal cities...).

More than likely every effort will be taken to behead the Administration and foreign forces will be encouraged to “visit” our shores.

Look for a deadly contagion (Ebola like), or prolonged power grid failure to make life so miserable that foreign “aid” is requested to help alleviate suffering.

Maybe a continued Trump Administration will cut the head off the snakes, and actually bring justice to the harbingers of treason, sedition and malfeasance towards our Christian based constitutional republic.

If Trump manages to fill Gitmo with deep staters, the other supporters/sympathizers will go underground, and we’ll actually have a period of pretty nice living, until Master Mayhem again insidiously gathers his believers and we are faced with a repeat of this same scenario/wickedness cycle.

Mostly because we only seem to repent enough to alleviate our current suffering...

[BeNotDeceived]

They can try, but only a true miracle will result in a change. My understanding is that both the senate and the house would need to vote in the majority to overturn any state's electorates. Since the house is majority democrat, they'd have to get every republican AND at least 6 democrats to vote that way. No way that's happening.

It doesn't work that way. The president of the senate (Pence) leads a joint session and each state gets one vote. GOP holds more states but I doubt it will go Trumps way even with that.

Its in the constitution as the 12th amendment.

But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states,

Click the link to skip directly to the "one vote" info.
https://youtu.be/DyX5fhOxUWs?t=57

[Gospel Donkey]

It is over, lack of support from GOP, corrupt legal system, many republicans have given up. The Georgia election has shown that, can't even win a local seat.

[Chip]

It is over, lack of support from GOP, corrupt legal system, many republicans have given up. The Georgia election has shown that, can't even win a local seat.

No. It's time for a miracle. Believe in what is right.

[Gospel Donkey]

It is over, lack of support from GOP, corrupt legal system, many republicans have given up. The Georgia election has shown that, can't even win a local seat.

No. It's time for a miracle. Believe in what is right.

The Gadiantons have taken over the US gov, the constitution is now null and void. There is no going back, the republicans/conservative will never win anything again.

Wickedness has prevailed, no miracle or magic bullet, can change that.

[markharr]

It is over, lack of support from GOP, corrupt legal system, many republicans have given up. The Georgia election has shown that, can't even win a local seat.

No. It's time for a miracle. Believe in what is right.

The Gadiantons have taken over the US gov, the constitution is now null and void. There is no going back, the republicans/conservative will never win anything again.

Wickedness has prevailed, no miracle or magic bullet, can change that.

It's not over.
The constitution will survive although just barely.
God's judgements will change it

[Gospel Donkey]

It's not over.
The constitution will survive although just barely.
God's judgements will change it

The US constitution was hanging on a thread of one person one vote, it is now dead. Will be restored in a future date after much bloodshed.

[BeNotDeceived]

Arizona objection, then majority of members == no change.

Skip objections because no senator would sign, until Pennsylvania.

Likely same thing as Arizona, and the dems push it through again.

Votes are one per member, rather than 1 per state. Dems push it through again.

Done & over?