LDS Church Leaders Congratulate President-Elect Joe Biden

[mahalanobis]

Time to give Biden his family history in a fancy leather-bound memory book.

Ahem, (cold shoulder to Trump)

??? Is there a history here? I’m assuming that Obama was presented a family history book but Trump wasn’t? What’s the story here?

EmmaLee already answered. Buy yes, it's a tradition for the church leaders to gift the POTUS a special book containing his ancestry.

It would be a nice gesture, if not for the photo op. Some people like the photo op PR culture, but I don't like it. It's cringy, yes, even when Trump does it.

[sandman45]

This is absolutely disgusting and sickening. There is something majorly wrong...

What on earth do the Luciferians have on the brethren that could compel them to make such an idiotic statement???

Surely they must be following the news and realize what's going on... The vast majority of the church membership is conservative. Don't they realize the position they're putting the members in with this?!

The church always claims neutrality in political matters... how on earth can they possibly not realize that endorsing the "results" of a CONTESTED and FRAUDULENT, at best UNCERTAIN, election with SOLID, CLEAR, AND IRREFUTABLE evidence of widescale cheating & fraud, is nothing but politically biased and partisan??

Maybe this is a blessing. Just more evidence and proof they are not who they claim to be. Time to stop blindly following these fools

[Chip]

I think God blessed the church and its leaders much more 20 years ago than he does today.

The internet brought out information that put the church in many difficult positions. The leaders responded by gaslighting the members, which caused the spirit to withdraw and left them without the promise of D&C 121.

34 Behold, there are many called, but few are chosen. And why are they not chosen?

35 Because their hearts are set so much upon the things of this world, and aspire to the honors of men, that they do not learn this one lesson—

36 That the rights of the priesthood are inseparably connected with the powers of heaven, and that the powers of heaven cannot be controlled nor handled only upon the principles of righteousness.

37 That they may be conferred upon us, it is true; but when we undertake to cover our sins, or to gratify our pride, our vain ambition, or to exercise control or dominion or compulsion upon the souls of the children of men, in any degree of unrighteousness, behold, the heavens withdraw themselves; the Spirit of the Lord is grieved; and when it is withdrawn, Amen to the priesthood or the authority of that man.

It works for the leaders just like it does for the members.

There is probably a lot more to this situation, though. We will know before long.

[Fred]

This is absolutely disgusting and sickening. There is something majorly wrong...

What on earth do the Luciferians have on the brethren that could compel them to make such an idiotic statement???

Surely they must be following the news and realize what's going on... The vast majority of the church membership is conservative. Don't they realize the position they're putting the members in with this?!

The church always claims neutrality in political matters... how on earth can they possibly not realize that endorsing the "results" of a CONTESTED and FRAUDULENT, at best UNCERTAIN, election with SOLID, CLEAR, AND IRREFUTABLE evidence of widescale cheating & fraud, is nothing but politically biased and partisan??

Maybe this is a blessing. Just more evidence and proof they are not who they claim to be. Time to stop blindly following these fools

If it is an indication of their drunken stupor in anticipation of collecting tithing from additional socialists to add to their vast treasury, (Why else pander to socialists?), their arrogance in daring Jesus to take His Church back could just slap them right in the face. They seem to have the same confidence as Hillary as far as all being well in Zion. No repercussions from the decades of KSL lies. What could Satan have promised them in order for them to turn their back on Jesus? Just 30 pieces of silver is all it took for Judas.

[Say what?]

Please pray for the leaders of our Church.

[stormcloak]

They should have waited. Election is still contested. Guess by their fruit ye shall know them.

Many false prophets

This is EXACTLY what I keep saying. All they had to do was wait a few more weeks. Just don't make a peep. Be silent. That's what the Church has traditionally done on politics. Everything would have worked out fine. It's not like the rest of the world cares what our Church has to say about the election. All they've done is add their voice to the tremendous cacophony of already-screaming voices about this election. And have thus discredited themselves in the eyes of all responsible citizens, patriots, and even righteous members of the Church.

All they had to do was wait till January 20 to make a statement. They didn't NEED to make one right now. There was no pragmatism in this decision. I know plenty of decisions in the past have been justified via pragmatism, that we need to protect the Church from outside attack, and we must ensure the work goes on, etc., etc.... But in this situation I see NO pragmatic reason for making this statement WHATSOEVER. It would not have harmed the Church in the slightest to simply remain silent on the issue of the election UNTIL someone is actually inaugurated.

I still couldn't condone their endorsement of Biden even if he were to be inaugurated, because he clearly "won" through fraud and duplicity. But, at least then there might be SOME degree of justification for their congratulating him.

What this clearly illustrates to me is that SOMEONE was pestering the brethren intensely to make a statement sooner than later. And I'm willing to bet that SOMEONE is a leftist, Luciferian, son of perdition, communist, or all of the above.

[creator]

Satan wants to kill, steal, and destroy. I don't believe God is going to permit Satan to wreck America when America just rejected Satan. This is Satan carrying on in lies only as far as God is going to permit him.

Does not compute. > 98% of voters voted for evil in the 2020 presidential election.

When you play the left-right paradigm game, Satan is always the winner.

[stormcloak]

Where is the President Nelson of yesteryear???

Just check out this statement he made in 1987:

president_nelson_on_abortion_1987.jpg (29.94 KiB) Viewed 352 times

Where is THAT President Nelson?

Doesn't he realize there is only ONE party that not only condones, but promotes abortion, pornography, gambling, homosexuality, and every other vice plaguing our society? Newsflash President Nelson: It's the Demonrat Democrat Party!!!

I heard a very close friend once tell me that he escorted President Monson in a taxi or something like that some years ago. President Monson and another highup church leader were both in the car together. As they entered into a discussion about politics, President Monson privately told my friend that it is impossible to be both a Latter-day Saint and a Democrat. It is inconsistent with our principles and our gospel. You cannot be a liberal and a faithful Latter-day Saint. This was what President Monson told my friend privately.

Now I am sitting here wondering... mustn't President Nelson realize the same thing? Anyone who is a Latter-day Saint and a Democrat is either suffering from cognitive dissonance, is terribly ignorant, or is a wolf in sheep's clothing. There are no other options or in-betweens. This kind of statement clearly indicates to me that something is wrong. I cannot believe the brethren are this ignorant or foolish...

[creator]

Both the Republican and Democrat parties are incompatible with the Gospel of Jesus Christ. The false left-right paradigm is Satan's playground.

[Juliet]

I had a dream of Pres. Trump last night. He invited me to the white house and I said "you are such a great man." Then he hugged me, and held his cheek against my cheek. The personablness of it warmed my soul.

I had a dream of him before he was president. He said he wanted to know everything about me. This was a time I was posting more videos on my experience with the deep state and mind control. He held his arm out to me.

This softened my heart. Because I was beginning to worry that Trump may be on the wrong side.

You know, my patriarchal blessing says I will have experiences that will soften my heart and give me a greater desire to follow the living prophets.

It has me pondering.... What does it really mean to have a living Prophet? Well... It means he has to have living keys.

It is a good thing to ponder... Whether a Prophet has living keys, or dead keys. And how is one to know the difference?

By their fruit ye shall know them.

Jesus always cared about the individual.

When I wrote to the first presidency about my abuse flashbacks, they stuck their legal department on me and questioned my husband without my permission to diagnose my mental state. Worse has been done but I won't share it here.

When I wrote to Donald Trump about SRA, along with a warning dream that if he didn't take a stand against it he would be killed by someone from his own team...I got a message that he had understood my email.

And he started going after the deep state. He started doing executive orders to remove the assets of the bad guys. He brought our jobs back and didn't give in even when they tried to kill him, poison him, put poison in Melania's nail polish, threaten to and make good on their threat to unleash a bioweapon called covid, hide Chinese troops in the Canadian border...

President Trump has given us four years before the antichrist system is set up. There are some sources saying he rescued the children held captive in underground bases. Some bases were five miles deep.

If all these things are true, then Pres. Trump is the greatest person I know.

Our church leaders knew and admitted Satanic Ritual abuse was occurring thirty years ago. Yet, according to their legal department, it is not for them to do anything about. For, it is a matter for law enforcement.

Matthew 25 comes to mind.

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:

43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

[stormcloak]

Both the Republican and Democrats parties are incompatible with the Gospel of Jesus Christ. The false left-right paradigm is Satan's playground.

I don't disagree with you there. George Wallace famously said there's not a dime's worth of difference between them.

But I can tell you one thing: one party's leadership is massively infested with Marxists, radicals, Satanists, secular humanists, and criminals. That party is massively sponsored and supported by criminal corporations, multi-trillion-dollar businesses, and remarkably corrupt billionaire magnates. The other party definitely suffers from corruption too, but to a much lesser degree. The base of one party is mostly composed of patriots, Christians, and productive members of society. The other party's base is mostly composed of ignorant people who watch highly controlled propaganda media outlets, violent rioters, and radicals who wish to see the Constitution overthrown. They care nothing for Christian principles or any sort of religion other than secular humanism, which is a thinly veiled disguise for Luciferianism.

It is quite clear to see at this point in time where the chips are falling. It's not right-left anymore. It's a battle between good and evil, right and wrong, liberty or tyranny. The false left-right dichotomy has been harmful in our history overall, but in this case it's becoming a decent indicator of where someone stands on critical issues and how open-minded they are. There are still plenty of issues with many on the right. But I argue that the other side is violently more out-of-control and vehemently anti-American. That is why Trump won a landslide. Most regular people are uncomfortable with such insanity.

[jreuben]

Where is the President Nelson of yesteryear???

Just check out this statement he made in 1987:



Where is THAT President Nelson?

...

Things that surely make you go hmm.

[stormcloak]

Where is the President Nelson of yesteryear???

Just check out this statement he made in 1987:

president_nelson_on_abortion_1987.jpg

Where is THAT President Nelson?

...

Things that surely make you go hmm.

My question exactly!

I want President Nelson's boldness and fortitude restored!

[jreuben]

I want this spirit of revelation restored in the entire church and in each priesthood holder on the surface of this planet. At least now there are so many with the priesthood that it cannot now be taken off the Earth as it was before and so it will continue, even if the church needs a "Great Reset" to use the demon luciferian parlance being bantered about presently.

[jreuben]

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When I wrote to Donald Trump about SRA, along with a warning dream that if he didn't take a stand against it he would be killed by someone from his own team...I got a message that he had understood my email.

And he started going after the deep state. He started doing executive orders to remove the assets of the bad guys. He brought our jobs back and didn't give in even when they tried to kill him, poison him, put poison in Melania's nail polish, threaten to and make good on their threat to unleash a bioweapon called covid, hide Chinese troops in the Canadian border...

President Trump has given us four years before the antichrist system is set up. There are some sources saying he rescued the children held captive in underground bases. Some bases were five miles deep.

If all these things are true, then Pres. Trump is the greatest person I know.

Our church leaders knew and admitted Satanic Ritual abuse was occurring thirty years ago. Yet, according to their legal department, it is not for them to do anything about. For, it is a matter for law enforcement.
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Juliet, I want to thank you personally for sharing this and the other more personal information. Very much and many thanks. I have faced similar problems in the church with leadership and abuse of children (not abuse directly by leaders, but violence from a parent that was reported to leaders and subsequently ignored, minimized and the children even manipulated to try to "forget and forgive" instead of concern for protecting the actual victims).

Make no mistake: we are in a war for our very lives, families lives, liberties and existence. This situation with China is extremely serious and the Harris-Biden situation and their incredibly direct and deep connections with China, the communist party and even PLA is past being a horror and terror, but present a Clear and Present danger that is actionable with Executive Directive 51 and EO13848 - AMONG METHODS OF RESOLUTION!

WE ARE CLEARLY AT WAR IN SOMETHING BIGGER AND MORE SERIOUS THAN ANY WORLD WAR HAS BEEN!

The time to act is now and I believe we are going to see that. I fear that the church leaders have shown their hand in such a way that has obliterated everyone's ability to trust in their capacity to receive revelation from the True and Everlasting God.

At least so many of us have the priesthood. Many of us are conducting our own sacrament and even ordinances where necessary at this point and the Spirit gives ratification to these things just as brother Joseph receive ratification in his monumental efforts.

[Fred]

Both the Republican and Democrats parties are incompatible with the Gospel of Jesus Christ. The false left-right paradigm is Satan's playground.

On the one hand I agree with you that both parties are corrupt. On the criteria Trump used to decide which party to run on was more of a NON incumbent and one having a likely chance to win, as opposed to what his actual personal ideals may be. I don't view Trump as a Democrat or Republican. I personally would label him a populist. So the right-left paradigm does not apply here. He actually belongs to neither party. And in fact, aside from his political associations as a result of his business dealings, I would not say that he is affiliated with either party. A true outsider.

He said and did a lot of things when running that made me mad. He also trusts police far too much. But he did not take the road straight to hell as Hillary surely would have. A definite lesser of two evils. But I don't expect him to be perfect, any more than I expect you to be perfect. Or me. He has done some good things and he is clearly not happy with the deep state's Bill Barr.

I think he has his own agenda. But I view him as a patriot far more than 96% of the entire political population. I do not think Ted Cruz or any other politician could have been as successful as he has been. He doesn't appear to hate being deep in debt, but at this stage of the game it is probably irrelevant. The economy will crash. Not just ours, either. In 4 more years, he may be able to expose enough corruption to actually get an arrest. I don't like him pretending covid is a big deal, but he already has half the country that hate him.

I say cut him some slack and drop the hate. No actual good person is able to get funding to even have a chance to win let alone the fairies in the green party or the constitution party with no guts, experience, or following. He would not have made it himself if he wasn't rich.

When Hillary had the voting machines rigged, illegals voting, dead people voting, democrats voting multiple times, and crooked counters, she could not even begin to comprehend how she lost. In her mind it was not possible. God is in charge. And He still is. Another impossibility could happen.

[jreuben]

I wish I still had a book from history class in high school many decades ago. In it the two party platforms were clearly lined up side-by-side. It was a very matter of fact and objective evaluation of both of the primary parties of the USA. When I read this during class one day I felt like a lightning bolt hit me. I said audibly in the silence of class, "How can anyone ever be a Democrat and be a Christian?"

If you get to the core of it, the values are there, but it's hard to see anymore due to the intense communist effort and communist infiltration into also the Republican party. The bottom line is that old Georgie Washington was right when he told us that parties would be the destruction of our nation.

[Chip]

Satan wants to kill, steal, and destroy. I don't believe God is going to permit Satan to wreck America when America just rejected Satan. This is Satan carrying on in lies only as far as God is going to permit him.

Does not compute. > 98% of voters voted for evil in the 2020 presidential election.

When you play the left-right paradigm game, Satan is always the winner.

I understand what you are getting at, but from my perspective, Trump's thinking is demonstrably NOT AGAINST the country like the communists' thinking is. I saw the Obama EPA and Army Corps of Engineers back way off the farmers and ranchers since Trump got in, which is as it should be.

Is God going to judge Americans badly for supporting the candidate who has been doing the better thing, given their two options? And there are only two possibilities, shy of the whole country waking all the way up. Those who supported Trump did not cheat to get Trump elected. They cast their votes honestly in hope that there would be a fair counting, which there wasn't.

I see that Trump doesn't understand the Constitution entirely, but I don't think he's out to destroy freedom like the commies are. Given the options, Trump was going to be the choice of honest people. That the system fought him so hard was a sign that he wasn't all in with them. I know you think he actually is, but I don't think so. And then we saw the commies cheat for Biden, while probably very, very few people cheated for Trump.

Being a purist about Trump's somewhat-unconstitutional approach and then voting for the Constitution party, instead, is kind of like not celebrating Christmas because it's not Christ's actual birthday.

And who knows how much of America's actual desire for freedom has been subverted over the last 18 years by the use of Dominion? We go further and further down this lesser-of-two-evils chute, without any say. We don't even know what we don't know. We don't know if our state government was even really elected.

It makes sense to me that God is going to do something to stop these wicked dominators who've pretty much run rough-shod over us and are now wanting to grind Satanism into our face. The efficacy of our lives is diminished by having this carry on. The commies will lay waste to everything good, given the opportunity.

I believe all these nutty prophets on the interwebs that talk of an awakening coming to America, because that is what we need and plenty of people are praying for it. This isn't Sodom or Gomorrah, not yet. There are plenty of people in America who love God and keep his commandments. I think God is going to expose the wicked for the benefit of the rest of us, and the domino effect will benefit the rest of the world.

And one last thing, people voted FOR Trump and AGAINST the Democrats, not so much FOR the Republicans. It was all about Trump vs the Communists.

Sorry this was kind of rambling.

[Luke]

I think this once again shows that we want to be in the mainstream just like everyone else

Go read the sermons of men like Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, John Taylor. They had no fear calling out evil where it existed. Joseph said to the US President that if he went against him, the judgments of God would come upon him. Brigham said multiple times that "the US government will be shivered to pieces"

Will you hear anything like that today? No. We want to be like Babylon, we want to appear mainstream, we don't want to rock the boat...

Imo this is less about Trump/Biden (although that's a factor) and more about how the Church just wants to be part of the crowd

[Chip]

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What this clearly illustrates to me is that SOMEONE was pestering the brethren intensely to make a statement sooner than later. And I'm willing to bet that SOMEONE is a leftist, Luciferian, son of perdition, communist, or all of the above.

Russell, Klaus' people called to remind us of our obligation to show support for the North American Great Reset program. We need to put forth a statement congratulating President Biden on his win. The newsroom people have already drafted a few versions for your review.

Oh? His people called? Hmmm... Poor Klaus. Seems like he's so busy, lately. I'm worried about him.

Well, if you want, we can run this one. It's rather conciliatory towards our African American brothers and sisters in Detroit who've suffered so much under systemic racism. Their efforts in the election were laudable. Long hours, making sure other people observed established COVID guidelines, and "getting out the vote". It's a "shout out", as they say, to them.

Oh, that sounds WONDERFUL! I know our brothers at the NAACP will really be pleased with that. Send my warmest greetings to Klaus and remind him to take his vitamins.

[Cruiserdude]

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What this clearly illustrates to me is that SOMEONE was pestering the brethren intensely to make a statement sooner than later. And I'm willing to bet that SOMEONE is a leftist, Luciferian, son of perdition, communist, or all of the above.

Russell, Klaus' people called to remind us of our obligation to show support for the North American Great Reset program. We need to put forth a statement congratulating President Biden on his win. The newsroom people have already drafted a few versions for your review.

Oh? His people called? Hmmm... Poor Klaus. Seems like he's so busy, lately. I'm worried about him.

Well, if you want, we can run this one. It's rather conciliatory towards our African American brothers and sisters in Detroit who've suffered so much under systemic racism. Their efforts in the election were laudable. Long hours, making sure other people observed established COVID guidelines, and "getting out the vote". It's a "shout out", as they say, to them.

Oh, that sounds WONDERFUL! I know our brothers at the NAACP will really be pleased with that. Send my warmest greetings to Klaus and remind him to take his vitamins.

For reals

[Chip]

Uhhhhhhhhh....... Hello?

Dallin, is that you? I just had a really bad dream. Well, I think it was a dream. I don't know. It was scary. Boyd came back and he looked so strange. His eyes were yellow. He was talking, upset, but I couldn't understand him. What in the world?!? Aren't we supposed to be getting visits from Jesus? This was horrible.

Calm down, Russ. You should talk to Wendy about this.

No, no, she went with Sheri to some kind of, I don't know, some kind of church thing they do on some nights. She doesn't come home until morning. It's just me here. Oh, I feel really guilty saying this, but ever since we started this partnership with Klaus, I've had this bad feeling. I mean, Klaus is so nice, so I shouldn't feel this way, but it seems like things are kind of unhinged.

Well, remember how Klaus told us that this would require great faith. We would be tried along the way. Maybe we're going through the refiner's fire.

Yeah, it feels like that. Fire.

[JustDan]

The comment section on the Facebook post sharing this news article has been disabled. They didn't like the comments that were being posted.

It was however mentioned that this exact same press release (word for word - just changing the names) was unveiled to welcome in Trump's administration. It demonstrates that this is not 'about Biden' but purely a "corporate" press release without thought. I have to wonder if the Presidency and Quorum had any involvement at all? This is merely the Corporate Church carrying on its 'usual business'.

The wording is wrong. It shouldn't have been released yet. Everything about it is off.....

Whilst I do support the Prophets and Apostles, I am very much aware that there is the corporate department of the church alongside the spiritual department. I most often disagree with the corporate policies, actions, and everything else, whilst supporting the spiritual church. I am very much aware that even the "Prophet" is 90% man, and 10% voice of God. I don't like this press release at all - but perhaps it is indeed the work of the corporate church. The church leaders should have more control, but that's another matter....

As an aside, I detest the fact that the church is always meddling in US politics and issues. It is supposed to be the Lord's church - a worldwide church - but is always focused on America.

[Fred]

The comment section on the Facebook post sharing this news article has been disabled. They didn't like the comments that were being posted.

It was however mentioned that this exact same press release (word for word - just changing the names) was unveiled to welcome in Trump's administration. It demonstrates that this is not 'about Biden' but purely a "corporate" press release without thought. I have to wonder if the Presidency and Quorum had any involvement at all? This is merely the Corporate Church carrying on its 'usual business'.

The wording is wrong. It shouldn't have been released yet. Everything about it is off.....

Whilst I do support the Prophets and Apostles, I am very much aware that there is the corporate department of the church alongside the spiritual department. I most often disagree with the corporate policies, actions, and everything else, whilst supporting the spiritual church. I am very much aware that even the "Prophet" is 90% man, and 10% voice of God. I don't like this press release at all - but perhaps it is indeed the work of the corporate church. The church leaders should have more control, but that's another matter....

As an aside, I detest the fact that the church is always meddling in US politics and issues. It is supposed to be the Lord's church - a worldwide church - but is always focused on America.

I wonder what would happen if the corporate lawyers allowed the spiritual leaders to tell the truth and had the faith to believe that God could handle any problems that arose as a result?

[samizdat]

The Church literally does this every four years. They congratulate the winner of the Presidential Election.

When Trump won in 2016, they literally congratulated him the day after. This took a month due to all the legal challenges and now Electoral College vote.