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More than anyone alive today, many believe Barack Obama is the Antichrist. The entire President Biden administration will be bits and pieces of the former President. Perhaps a UN appointment, or some other appointment for him to start the persecution of the saints.

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Lexew1899 wrote: November 27th, 2020, 2:42 pm More than anyone alive today, many believe Barack Obama is the Antichrist. The entire President Biden administration will be bits and pieces of the former President. Perhaps a UN appointment, or some other appointment for him to start the persecution of the saints.
I had long suspected Obama would see his career continue into a UN position. I originally thought this would happen under Hillary's presidency. Perhaps it is now simply delayed to take place under Biden?

But we'll see. I've had plenty of predictions go south.

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Obama is definitely AN anti-Christ - not sure he is THE Anti-Christ - although I know it's hard to believe that a more evil person could exist than Barack Hussein Obama, I believe one will and is yet to be revealed.

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Yes, yes, yes. There are so many evidences for this. Loved the video.

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I thought the a.c. was Kamula Harris? This forum needs to step it up with their predictions.

Have you ever wondered how many hundreds or thousands of people have been charged with being the a.c. since 70 Ad?

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Obama is not the antichrist. Why won't people give up on this notion, LOL. The antchrist kingdom is after the resurrection. The antichrist kingdom is at the end of the time known as the millennium. The meaning of the ancient Greek word for millennium is different from the Latin millenium. It means a long indeterminate amount of time. After the resurrection people that receive terrestrial type bodies will live a very long time but they will not be immortal yet. Yes, I know it is only appointed once for man to live and then the judgement. However, Jesus death on the cross made it possible to go beyond that which was appointed. The future AC lived thousands of years ago and will only become the AC after the resurrection and then he will only be indwelt by Satan (the antichrist spirit) toward the end of the millennium. Millennium in the Greek does not mean a thousand years. The antichrist could actually come to power thousands of years after the millennium starts. People will live to be as old as they did before the flood. During that time there will be 3 kings then 10 simultaneous kings and the antichrist will come to power because the 10 kings will give power to the AC beast to rule. That could take thousands of years to play out.

OBAMA IS NOT THE ANTICHRIST

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Lexew1899 wrote: November 27th, 2020, 2:42 pm More than anyone alive today, many believe Barack Obama is the Antichrist. The entire President Biden administration will be bits and pieces of the former President. Perhaps a UN appointment, or some other appointment for him to start the persecution of the saints.
I think Klaus Schwab fits the bill better than Barack. Though Barack might be an assistant. Biden is just a lackey.

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I seem to be yelling from inside a soundproof room and my throat is sore. I think I'll take a break.

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Michael Sherwin wrote: November 27th, 2020, 7:12 pm Obama is not the antichrist. Why won't people give up on this notion, LOL. The antchrist kingdom is after the resurrection. The antichrist kingdom is at the end of the time known as the millennium. The meaning of the ancient Greek word for millennium is different from the Latin millenium. It means a long indeterminate amount of time. After the resurrection people that receive terrestrial type bodies will live a very long time but they will not be immortal yet. Yes, I know it is only appointed once for man to live and then the judgement. However, Jesus death on the cross made it possible to go beyond that which was appointed. The future AC lived thousands of years ago and will only become the AC after the resurrection and then he will only be indwelt by Satan (the antichrist spirit) toward the end of the millennium. Millennium in the Greek does not mean a thousand years. The antichrist could actually come to power thousands of years after the millennium starts. People will live to be as old as they did before the flood. During that time there will be 3 kings then 10 simultaneous kings and the antichrist will come to power because the 10 kings will give power to the AC beast to rule. That could take thousands of years to play out.

OBAMA IS NOT THE ANTICHRIST
You realize that Revelation 19:20 says:
And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

And that, if you skip one verse, the next three verses say:
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.


So, if you’re not reading that to mean that the Antichrist (“the beast”) had his work before the Millennium and that the dragon was the one who was preserved for one last hurrah after the Millennium....then what are you understanding that to mean?

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Pazooka wrote: November 27th, 2020, 9:13 pm
Michael Sherwin wrote: November 27th, 2020, 7:12 pm Obama is not the antichrist. Why won't people give up on this notion, LOL. The antchrist kingdom is after the resurrection. The antichrist kingdom is at the end of the time known as the millennium. The meaning of the ancient Greek word for millennium is different from the Latin millenium. It means a long indeterminate amount of time. After the resurrection people that receive terrestrial type bodies will live a very long time but they will not be immortal yet. Yes, I know it is only appointed once for man to live and then the judgement. However, Jesus death on the cross made it possible to go beyond that which was appointed. The future AC lived thousands of years ago and will only become the AC after the resurrection and then he will only be indwelt by Satan (the antichrist spirit) toward the end of the millennium. Millennium in the Greek does not mean a thousand years. The antichrist could actually come to power thousands of years after the millennium starts. People will live to be as old as they did before the flood. During that time there will be 3 kings then 10 simultaneous kings and the antichrist will come to power because the 10 kings will give power to the AC beast to rule. That could take thousands of years to play out.

OBAMA IS NOT THE ANTICHRIST
You realize that Revelation 19:20 says:
And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

And that, if you skip one verse, the next three verses say:
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.


So, if you’re not reading that to mean that the Antichrist (“the beast”) had his work before the Millennium and that the dragon was the one who was preserved for one last hurrah after the Millennium....then what are you understanding that to mean?
Chapter 19 begins at the time of Revelation 12:7 the war in heaven because it is the war in heaven and Satan being cast to the earth that brings the time of salvation in Revelation 12:10 which is the time of deliverance in Daniel 12:1 which is the time of the resurrection in Daniel 12:2. And chapter 19 ends with the final destruction of the wicked at the end of the millennium.

Chapter 20 starts with Christ victory on the cross. In one of the apocrypha, one of the Maccabees, which used to be in the KJV until it was removed.
Later, during the English Civil War, the Westminster Confession of 1647 excluded the Apocrypha from the canon and made no recommendation of the Apocrypha above "other human writings",[11] and this attitude toward the Apocrypha is represented by the decision of the British and Foreign Bible Society in the early 19th century not to print it
King James Version
The English-language King James Version (KJV) of 1611 followed the lead of the Luther Bible in using an inter-testamental section labelled "Books called Apocrypha", or just "Apocrypha" at the running page header.[37] The KJV followed the Geneva Bible of 1560 almost exactly (variations are marked below). The section contains the following:[38]

1 Esdras (Vulgate 3 Esdras)
2 Esdras (Vulgate 4 Esdras)
Tobit
Judith ("Judeth" in Geneva)
Rest of Esther (Vulgate Esther 10:4 – 16:24)
Wisdom
Ecclesiasticus (also known as Sirach)
Baruch and the Epistle of Jeremy ("Jeremiah" in Geneva) (all part of Vulgate Baruch)
Song of the Three Children (Vulgate Daniel 3:24–90)
Story of Susanna (Vulgate Daniel 13)
The Idol Bel and the Dragon (Vulgate Daniel 14)
Prayer of Manasseh (Daniel)
1 Maccabees
2 Maccabees

(Included in this list are those books of the Clementine Vulgate that were not in Luther's canon).

These are the books most frequently referred to by the casual appellation "the Apocrypha". These same books are also listed in Article VI of the Thirty-Nine Articles of the Church of England.[39] Despite being placed in the Apocrypha, in the table of lessons at the front of some printings of the King James Bible, these books are included under the Old Testament.
The Bible and the Puritan revolution
The British Puritan revolution of the 1600s brought a change in the way many British publishers handled the apocryphal material associated with the Bible. The Puritans used the standard of Sola Scriptura (Scripture Alone) to determine which books would be included in the canon. The Westminster Confession of Faith, composed during the British Civil Wars (1642–1651), excluded the Apocrypha from the canon. The Confession provided the rationale for the exclusion: 'The books commonly called Apocrypha, not being of divine inspiration, are no part of the canon of the Scripture, and therefore are of no authority in the church of God, nor to be any otherwise approved, or made use of, than other human writings' (1.3).[40] Thus, Bibles printed by English Protestants who separated from the Church of England began to exclude these books.

Anyway, long story short is that it says in 4 Maccabees IIRC (and I might not) that Satan was bound at the cross. So chapter 20 starts with the cross and ends at the end of the millennium which is an indeterminate span of time.

So honestly I do not see a problem with what I posted.

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Michael Sherwin wrote: November 27th, 2020, 10:43 pm
Pazooka wrote: November 27th, 2020, 9:13 pm
Michael Sherwin wrote: November 27th, 2020, 7:12 pm Obama is not the antichrist. Why won't people give up on this notion, LOL. The antchrist kingdom is after the resurrection. The antichrist kingdom is at the end of the time known as the millennium. The meaning of the ancient Greek word for millennium is different from the Latin millenium. It means a long indeterminate amount of time. After the resurrection people that receive terrestrial type bodies will live a very long time but they will not be immortal yet. Yes, I know it is only appointed once for man to live and then the judgement. However, Jesus death on the cross made it possible to go beyond that which was appointed. The future AC lived thousands of years ago and will only become the AC after the resurrection and then he will only be indwelt by Satan (the antichrist spirit) toward the end of the millennium. Millennium in the Greek does not mean a thousand years. The antichrist could actually come to power thousands of years after the millennium starts. People will live to be as old as they did before the flood. During that time there will be 3 kings then 10 simultaneous kings and the antichrist will come to power because the 10 kings will give power to the AC beast to rule. That could take thousands of years to play out.

OBAMA IS NOT THE ANTICHRIST
You realize that Revelation 19:20 says:
And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

And that, if you skip one verse, the next three verses say:
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.


So, if you’re not reading that to mean that the Antichrist (“the beast”) had his work before the Millennium and that the dragon was the one who was preserved for one last hurrah after the Millennium....then what are you understanding that to mean?
Chapter 19 begins at the time of Revelation 12:7 the war in heaven because it is the war in heaven and Satan being cast to the earth that brings the time of salvation in Revelation 12:10 which is the time of deliverance in Daniel 12:1 which is the time of the resurrection in Daniel 12:2. And chapter 19 ends with the final destruction of the wicked at the end of the millennium.

Chapter 20 starts with Christ victory on the cross. In one of the apocrypha, one of the Maccabees, which used to be in the KJV until it was removed.
Later, during the English Civil War, the Westminster Confession of 1647 excluded the Apocrypha from the canon and made no recommendation of the Apocrypha above "other human writings",[11] and this attitude toward the Apocrypha is represented by the decision of the British and Foreign Bible Society in the early 19th century not to print it
King James Version
The English-language King James Version (KJV) of 1611 followed the lead of the Luther Bible in using an inter-testamental section labelled "Books called Apocrypha", or just "Apocrypha" at the running page header.[37] The KJV followed the Geneva Bible of 1560 almost exactly (variations are marked below). The section contains the following:[38]

1 Esdras (Vulgate 3 Esdras)
2 Esdras (Vulgate 4 Esdras)
Tobit
Judith ("Judeth" in Geneva)
Rest of Esther (Vulgate Esther 10:4 – 16:24)
Wisdom
Ecclesiasticus (also known as Sirach)
Baruch and the Epistle of Jeremy ("Jeremiah" in Geneva) (all part of Vulgate Baruch)
Song of the Three Children (Vulgate Daniel 3:24–90)
Story of Susanna (Vulgate Daniel 13)
The Idol Bel and the Dragon (Vulgate Daniel 14)
Prayer of Manasseh (Daniel)
1 Maccabees
2 Maccabees

(Included in this list are those books of the Clementine Vulgate that were not in Luther's canon).

These are the books most frequently referred to by the casual appellation "the Apocrypha". These same books are also listed in Article VI of the Thirty-Nine Articles of the Church of England.[39] Despite being placed in the Apocrypha, in the table of lessons at the front of some printings of the King James Bible, these books are included under the Old Testament.
The Bible and the Puritan revolution
The British Puritan revolution of the 1600s brought a change in the way many British publishers handled the apocryphal material associated with the Bible. The Puritans used the standard of Sola Scriptura (Scripture Alone) to determine which books would be included in the canon. The Westminster Confession of Faith, composed during the British Civil Wars (1642–1651), excluded the Apocrypha from the canon. The Confession provided the rationale for the exclusion: 'The books commonly called Apocrypha, not being of divine inspiration, are no part of the canon of the Scripture, and therefore are of no authority in the church of God, nor to be any otherwise approved, or made use of, than other human writings' (1.3).[40] Thus, Bibles printed by English Protestants who separated from the Church of England began to exclude these books.

Anyway, long story short is that it says in 4 Maccabees IIRC (and I might not) that Satan was bound at the cross. So chapter 20 starts with the cross and ends at the end of the millennium which is an indeterminate span of time.

So honestly I do not see a problem with what I posted.
https://www.ligonier.org/learn/articles/binding-satan/
Revelation 20 is the only place in the Bible that speaks of “the millennium”—the thousand-year reign of the triumphant Christ on earth. Nowhere else does Holy Scripture mention this word, so it is necessary to look at related teachings elsewhere in Scripture to understand what it means in Revelation. A sound principle of biblical interpretation (used from ancient times by Augustine, Tychonius, and other early Christian writers) is that one interprets the few mentions of a word or concept in light of the many, and the symbolic in light of the plain. It would be contrary to a clear understanding of the Scriptures to make the many fit into the one, or the plain into the symbolic. Therefore, we should understand what Revelation 20, a highly symbolic book, says about the millennium in light of the very large number of other biblical passages that tell us more plainly (and less symbolically) what occurs between Christ’s resurrection and ascension to heaven, and His final return to earth to complete His victorious work. With that in mind, let us seek biblical help in order to make sense of the very first thing that is said to occur in this thousand-year period between Christ’s two comings: the binding of Satan.

Revelation 20:1–3 says that a mighty angel from God binds the Devil for a thousand years. Specifically, verse 3 relates that he is bound from deceiving the nations during this period. Something happens to Satan’s ability to keep the nations of earth blinded from seeing who God is, and what His gospel means for them. As a result of Christ’s finished work in dying on the cross, in rising from the dead, in ascending to the Father, and in being crowned on the throne of glory, Satan lost his power to deceive the untold millions of pagans, whom he formerly kept blinded to God’s saving truth.

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Michael Sherwin wrote: November 27th, 2020, 11:01 pm
Michael Sherwin wrote: November 27th, 2020, 10:43 pm
Pazooka wrote: November 27th, 2020, 9:13 pm
Michael Sherwin wrote: November 27th, 2020, 7:12 pm Obama is not the antichrist. Why won't people give up on this notion, LOL. The antchrist kingdom is after the resurrection. The antichrist kingdom is at the end of the time known as the millennium. The meaning of the ancient Greek word for millennium is different from the Latin millenium. It means a long indeterminate amount of time. After the resurrection people that receive terrestrial type bodies will live a very long time but they will not be immortal yet. Yes, I know it is only appointed once for man to live and then the judgement. However, Jesus death on the cross made it possible to go beyond that which was appointed. The future AC lived thousands of years ago and will only become the AC after the resurrection and then he will only be indwelt by Satan (the antichrist spirit) toward the end of the millennium. Millennium in the Greek does not mean a thousand years. The antichrist could actually come to power thousands of years after the millennium starts. People will live to be as old as they did before the flood. During that time there will be 3 kings then 10 simultaneous kings and the antichrist will come to power because the 10 kings will give power to the AC beast to rule. That could take thousands of years to play out.

OBAMA IS NOT THE ANTICHRIST
You realize that Revelation 19:20 says:
And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

And that, if you skip one verse, the next three verses say:
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.


So, if you’re not reading that to mean that the Antichrist (“the beast”) had his work before the Millennium and that the dragon was the one who was preserved for one last hurrah after the Millennium....then what are you understanding that to mean?
Chapter 19 begins at the time of Revelation 12:7 the war in heaven because it is the war in heaven and Satan being cast to the earth that brings the time of salvation in Revelation 12:10 which is the time of deliverance in Daniel 12:1 which is the time of the resurrection in Daniel 12:2. And chapter 19 ends with the final destruction of the wicked at the end of the millennium.

Chapter 20 starts with Christ victory on the cross. In one of the apocrypha, one of the Maccabees, which used to be in the KJV until it was removed.
Later, during the English Civil War, the Westminster Confession of 1647 excluded the Apocrypha from the canon and made no recommendation of the Apocrypha above "other human writings",[11] and this attitude toward the Apocrypha is represented by the decision of the British and Foreign Bible Society in the early 19th century not to print it
King James Version
The English-language King James Version (KJV) of 1611 followed the lead of the Luther Bible in using an inter-testamental section labelled "Books called Apocrypha", or just "Apocrypha" at the running page header.[37] The KJV followed the Geneva Bible of 1560 almost exactly (variations are marked below). The section contains the following:[38]

1 Esdras (Vulgate 3 Esdras)
2 Esdras (Vulgate 4 Esdras)
Tobit
Judith ("Judeth" in Geneva)
Rest of Esther (Vulgate Esther 10:4 – 16:24)
Wisdom
Ecclesiasticus (also known as Sirach)
Baruch and the Epistle of Jeremy ("Jeremiah" in Geneva) (all part of Vulgate Baruch)
Song of the Three Children (Vulgate Daniel 3:24–90)
Story of Susanna (Vulgate Daniel 13)
The Idol Bel and the Dragon (Vulgate Daniel 14)
Prayer of Manasseh (Daniel)
1 Maccabees
2 Maccabees

(Included in this list are those books of the Clementine Vulgate that were not in Luther's canon).

These are the books most frequently referred to by the casual appellation "the Apocrypha". These same books are also listed in Article VI of the Thirty-Nine Articles of the Church of England.[39] Despite being placed in the Apocrypha, in the table of lessons at the front of some printings of the King James Bible, these books are included under the Old Testament.
The Bible and the Puritan revolution
The British Puritan revolution of the 1600s brought a change in the way many British publishers handled the apocryphal material associated with the Bible. The Puritans used the standard of Sola Scriptura (Scripture Alone) to determine which books would be included in the canon. The Westminster Confession of Faith, composed during the British Civil Wars (1642–1651), excluded the Apocrypha from the canon. The Confession provided the rationale for the exclusion: 'The books commonly called Apocrypha, not being of divine inspiration, are no part of the canon of the Scripture, and therefore are of no authority in the church of God, nor to be any otherwise approved, or made use of, than other human writings' (1.3).[40] Thus, Bibles printed by English Protestants who separated from the Church of England began to exclude these books.

Anyway, long story short is that it says in 4 Maccabees IIRC (and I might not) that Satan was bound at the cross. So chapter 20 starts with the cross and ends at the end of the millennium which is an indeterminate span of time.

So honestly I do not see a problem with what I posted.
https://www.ligonier.org/learn/articles/binding-satan/
Revelation 20 is the only place in the Bible that speaks of “the millennium”—the thousand-year reign of the triumphant Christ on earth. Nowhere else does Holy Scripture mention this word, so it is necessary to look at related teachings elsewhere in Scripture to understand what it means in Revelation. A sound principle of biblical interpretation (used from ancient times by Augustine, Tychonius, and other early Christian writers) is that one interprets the few mentions of a word or concept in light of the many, and the symbolic in light of the plain. It would be contrary to a clear understanding of the Scriptures to make the many fit into the one, or the plain into the symbolic. Therefore, we should understand what Revelation 20, a highly symbolic book, says about the millennium in light of the very large number of other biblical passages that tell us more plainly (and less symbolically) what occurs between Christ’s resurrection and ascension to heaven, and His final return to earth to complete His victorious work. With that in mind, let us seek biblical help in order to make sense of the very first thing that is said to occur in this thousand-year period between Christ’s two comings: the binding of Satan.

Revelation 20:1–3 says that a mighty angel from God binds the Devil for a thousand years. Specifically, verse 3 relates that he is bound from deceiving the nations during this period. Something happens to Satan’s ability to keep the nations of earth blinded from seeing who God is, and what His gospel means for them. As a result of Christ’s finished work in dying on the cross, in rising from the dead, in ascending to the Father, and in being crowned on the throne of glory, Satan lost his power to deceive the untold millions of pagans, whom he formerly kept blinded to God’s saving truth.
Seriously, you don’t believe any of the LDS scriptures that talk about the thousand year period we know as “the Millennium”?
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Pazooka wrote: November 28th, 2020, 10:51 am
Michael Sherwin wrote: November 27th, 2020, 11:01 pm
Michael Sherwin wrote: November 27th, 2020, 10:43 pm
Pazooka wrote: November 27th, 2020, 9:13 pm
You realize that Revelation 19:20 says:
And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

And that, if you skip one verse, the next three verses say:
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.


So, if you’re not reading that to mean that the Antichrist (“the beast”) had his work before the Millennium and that the dragon was the one who was preserved for one last hurrah after the Millennium....then what are you understanding that to mean?
Chapter 19 begins at the time of Revelation 12:7 the war in heaven because it is the war in heaven and Satan being cast to the earth that brings the time of salvation in Revelation 12:10 which is the time of deliverance in Daniel 12:1 which is the time of the resurrection in Daniel 12:2. And chapter 19 ends with the final destruction of the wicked at the end of the millennium.

Chapter 20 starts with Christ victory on the cross. In one of the apocrypha, one of the Maccabees, which used to be in the KJV until it was removed.
Later, during the English Civil War, the Westminster Confession of 1647 excluded the Apocrypha from the canon and made no recommendation of the Apocrypha above "other human writings",[11] and this attitude toward the Apocrypha is represented by the decision of the British and Foreign Bible Society in the early 19th century not to print it
King James Version
The English-language King James Version (KJV) of 1611 followed the lead of the Luther Bible in using an inter-testamental section labelled "Books called Apocrypha", or just "Apocrypha" at the running page header.[37] The KJV followed the Geneva Bible of 1560 almost exactly (variations are marked below). The section contains the following:[38]

1 Esdras (Vulgate 3 Esdras)
2 Esdras (Vulgate 4 Esdras)
Tobit
Judith ("Judeth" in Geneva)
Rest of Esther (Vulgate Esther 10:4 – 16:24)
Wisdom
Ecclesiasticus (also known as Sirach)
Baruch and the Epistle of Jeremy ("Jeremiah" in Geneva) (all part of Vulgate Baruch)
Song of the Three Children (Vulgate Daniel 3:24–90)
Story of Susanna (Vulgate Daniel 13)
The Idol Bel and the Dragon (Vulgate Daniel 14)
Prayer of Manasseh (Daniel)
1 Maccabees
2 Maccabees

(Included in this list are those books of the Clementine Vulgate that were not in Luther's canon).

These are the books most frequently referred to by the casual appellation "the Apocrypha". These same books are also listed in Article VI of the Thirty-Nine Articles of the Church of England.[39] Despite being placed in the Apocrypha, in the table of lessons at the front of some printings of the King James Bible, these books are included under the Old Testament.
The Bible and the Puritan revolution
The British Puritan revolution of the 1600s brought a change in the way many British publishers handled the apocryphal material associated with the Bible. The Puritans used the standard of Sola Scriptura (Scripture Alone) to determine which books would be included in the canon. The Westminster Confession of Faith, composed during the British Civil Wars (1642–1651), excluded the Apocrypha from the canon. The Confession provided the rationale for the exclusion: 'The books commonly called Apocrypha, not being of divine inspiration, are no part of the canon of the Scripture, and therefore are of no authority in the church of God, nor to be any otherwise approved, or made use of, than other human writings' (1.3).[40] Thus, Bibles printed by English Protestants who separated from the Church of England began to exclude these books.

Anyway, long story short is that it says in 4 Maccabees IIRC (and I might not) that Satan was bound at the cross. So chapter 20 starts with the cross and ends at the end of the millennium which is an indeterminate span of time.

So honestly I do not see a problem with what I posted.
https://www.ligonier.org/learn/articles/binding-satan/
Revelation 20 is the only place in the Bible that speaks of “the millennium”—the thousand-year reign of the triumphant Christ on earth. Nowhere else does Holy Scripture mention this word, so it is necessary to look at related teachings elsewhere in Scripture to understand what it means in Revelation. A sound principle of biblical interpretation (used from ancient times by Augustine, Tychonius, and other early Christian writers) is that one interprets the few mentions of a word or concept in light of the many, and the symbolic in light of the plain. It would be contrary to a clear understanding of the Scriptures to make the many fit into the one, or the plain into the symbolic. Therefore, we should understand what Revelation 20, a highly symbolic book, says about the millennium in light of the very large number of other biblical passages that tell us more plainly (and less symbolically) what occurs between Christ’s resurrection and ascension to heaven, and His final return to earth to complete His victorious work. With that in mind, let us seek biblical help in order to make sense of the very first thing that is said to occur in this thousand-year period between Christ’s two comings: the binding of Satan.

Revelation 20:1–3 says that a mighty angel from God binds the Devil for a thousand years. Specifically, verse 3 relates that he is bound from deceiving the nations during this period. Something happens to Satan’s ability to keep the nations of earth blinded from seeing who God is, and what His gospel means for them. As a result of Christ’s finished work in dying on the cross, in rising from the dead, in ascending to the Father, and in being crowned on the throne of glory, Satan lost his power to deceive the untold millions of pagans, whom he formerly kept blinded to God’s saving truth.
Seriously, you don’t believe any of the LDS scriptures that talk about the thousand year period we know as “the Millennium”?
22:26 And because of the righteousness of his people, Satan, hath no power; wherefore, he cannot be loosed for the space of many years: for he hath no power over the hearts of the people, for they dwell in righteousness, and the Holy One of Israel reigneth.

The Holy one of Israel reigneth right now as he sits at the Father's right hand and all authority has been bestowed upon him. His people are the people of John 17. They were given to Jesus by the Father. They are from above just like Jesus was from above. Man does not need Satan to be wicked. The desires of the flesh is more than enough to lead man astray. Satan is unbound at the end of the Millenium to accomplish the final sifting before eternity begins.

Concerning 2 Nephi:
Everything that I have read in 1 Nephi is God inspired. And that is in itself an amazing thing because before I read it I believed the whole Book of Mormon was a fairytale at best. When I read 2 Nephi I see nothing God inspired. For example.

29:5 O ye Gentiles, have ye remembered the Jews, mine ancient covenant people? Nay; but ye have cursed them, and have hated them, and have not sought to recover them. But behold, I will return all these things upon your own heads: for I the Lord hath not forgotten my people.

The Jews are only three tribes of Israel. All of Israel is God's "ancient covenant people". When God made a covenant with Abraham there were no people extant known as Jews. When God affirmed the covenant with Jacob there was no Jewish nation or people known as Jews. It was only after Solomon's death that the nation of Judah came into being and the people living there became known as Jews. God does not make such silly mistakes as seen in 29:5 that are made all the time by the uneducated.

30:18 Wherefore, all things which have been revealed unto the children of men, shall at that day be revealed; and Satan shall have power over the hearts of the children of men no more, for a long time. And now, my beloved brethren, I must make an end of my sayings.
The highlighted part is not God speak. It is human interjection. Although it is ironic that it says a long time and not a thousand years. Still it is uninspired text. The rest of the passage is also nonsensical in that it says what has been revealed will be revealed. Everything of importance for salvation will be preached to all the earth when the "another angel" preaches the Gospel to all that dwell on the earth. Yet Satan will be loosed after that meaning that Satan will have power over the hearts of some men for a little season. All of 30:18 shows a total lack of understanding.

I need not go any further. If you insist upon the rest or additional provide text and links to the material. I haven't the strength to do all that you put upon me.

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Michael Sherwin wrote: November 28th, 2020, 1:14 pm
Pazooka wrote: November 28th, 2020, 10:51 am
Michael Sherwin wrote: November 27th, 2020, 11:01 pm
Michael Sherwin wrote: November 27th, 2020, 10:43 pm
Chapter 19 begins at the time of Revelation 12:7 the war in heaven because it is the war in heaven and Satan being cast to the earth that brings the time of salvation in Revelation 12:10 which is the time of deliverance in Daniel 12:1 which is the time of the resurrection in Daniel 12:2. And chapter 19 ends with the final destruction of the wicked at the end of the millennium.

Chapter 20 starts with Christ victory on the cross. In one of the apocrypha, one of the Maccabees, which used to be in the KJV until it was removed.





Anyway, long story short is that it says in 4 Maccabees IIRC (and I might not) that Satan was bound at the cross. So chapter 20 starts with the cross and ends at the end of the millennium which is an indeterminate span of time.

So honestly I do not see a problem with what I posted.
https://www.ligonier.org/learn/articles/binding-satan/
Revelation 20 is the only place in the Bible that speaks of “the millennium”—the thousand-year reign of the triumphant Christ on earth. Nowhere else does Holy Scripture mention this word, so it is necessary to look at related teachings elsewhere in Scripture to understand what it means in Revelation. A sound principle of biblical interpretation (used from ancient times by Augustine, Tychonius, and other early Christian writers) is that one interprets the few mentions of a word or concept in light of the many, and the symbolic in light of the plain. It would be contrary to a clear understanding of the Scriptures to make the many fit into the one, or the plain into the symbolic. Therefore, we should understand what Revelation 20, a highly symbolic book, says about the millennium in light of the very large number of other biblical passages that tell us more plainly (and less symbolically) what occurs between Christ’s resurrection and ascension to heaven, and His final return to earth to complete His victorious work. With that in mind, let us seek biblical help in order to make sense of the very first thing that is said to occur in this thousand-year period between Christ’s two comings: the binding of Satan.

Revelation 20:1–3 says that a mighty angel from God binds the Devil for a thousand years. Specifically, verse 3 relates that he is bound from deceiving the nations during this period. Something happens to Satan’s ability to keep the nations of earth blinded from seeing who God is, and what His gospel means for them. As a result of Christ’s finished work in dying on the cross, in rising from the dead, in ascending to the Father, and in being crowned on the throne of glory, Satan lost his power to deceive the untold millions of pagans, whom he formerly kept blinded to God’s saving truth.
Seriously, you don’t believe any of the LDS scriptures that talk about the thousand year period we know as “the Millennium”?
22:26 And because of the righteousness of his people, Satan, hath no power; wherefore, he cannot be loosed for the space of many years: for he hath no power over the hearts of the people, for they dwell in righteousness, and the Holy One of Israel reigneth.

The Holy one of Israel reigneth right now as he sits at the Father's right hand and all authority has been bestowed upon him. His people are the people of John 17. They were given to Jesus by the Father. They are from above just like Jesus was from above. Man does not need Satan to be wicked. The desires of the flesh is more than enough to lead man astray. Satan is unbound at the end of the Millenium to accomplish the final sifting before eternity begins.

Concerning 2 Nephi:
Everything that I have read in 1 Nephi is God inspired. And that is in itself an amazing thing because before I read it I believed the whole Book of Mormon was a fairytale at best. When I read 2 Nephi I see nothing God inspired. For example.

29:5 O ye Gentiles, have ye remembered the Jews, mine ancient covenant people? Nay; but ye have cursed them, and have hated them, and have not sought to recover them. But behold, I will return all these things upon your own heads: for I the Lord hath not forgotten my people.

The Jews are only three tribes of Israel. All of Israel is God's "ancient covenant people". When God made a covenant with Abraham there were no people extant known as Jews. When God affirmed the covenant with Jacob there was no Jewish nation or people known as Jews. It was only after Solomon's death that the nation of Judah came into being and the people living there became known as Jews. God does not make such silly mistakes as seen in 29:5 that are made all the time by the uneducated.

30:18 Wherefore, all things which have been revealed unto the children of men, shall at that day be revealed; and Satan shall have power over the hearts of the children of men no more, for a long time. And now, my beloved brethren, I must make an end of my sayings.
The highlighted part is not God speak. It is human interjection. Although it is ironic that it says a long time and not a thousand years. Still it is uninspired text. The rest of the passage is also nonsensical in that it says what has been revealed will be revealed. Everything of importance for salvation will be preached to all the earth when the "another angel" preaches the Gospel to all that dwell on the earth. Yet Satan will be loosed after that meaning that Satan will have power over the hearts of some men for a little season. All of 30:18 shows a total lack of understanding.

I need not go any further. If you insist upon the rest or additional provide text and links to the material. I haven't the strength to do all that you put upon me.
I sent you that snapshot to show that there were at least three scriptural witnesses to the fact that there will be a thousand-year-long reign of Christ upon the earth. That is the law of witnesses, fulfilled.

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No

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so I really wonder if this is the plan - as this person said.

"That's literally what Biden said. This is the elite's plan to put him into office and then have him resign"

then Obama takes over.
"We knew this would happen in order for the man of sin even the son of perdition to start his lawless reign"


OBAMA'S RING: "THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH"
https://www.wnd.com/2012/10/obamas-ring ... but-allah/

“There can be no doubt that someone wearing the inscription ‘There is no god except Allah’ has a very close connection to Islamic beliefs, the Islamic religion and Islamic society to which this statement is so strongly attached,”

Obama the antichrist
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Everybody who has been watching him know he has dementia. He doesn’t even have to fake a disease, just admit he has it.

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The media is asking Obama a lot of questions, not Biden or Harris.

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OCDMOM wrote: December 4th, 2020, 4:31 pm The media is asking Obama a lot of questions, not Biden or Harris.
He's on Jimmy Fallon tonight

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SPIRIT wrote: December 4th, 2020, 4:00 pm so I really wonder if this is the plan - as this person said.

"That's literally what Biden said. This is the elite's plan to put him into office and then have him resign"

then Obama takes over.
"We knew this would happen in order for the man of sin even the son of perdition to start his lawless reign"


OBAMA'S RING: "THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH"
https://www.wnd.com/2012/10/obamas-ring ... but-allah/

“There can be no doubt that someone wearing the inscription ‘There is no god except Allah’ has a very close connection to Islamic beliefs, the Islamic religion and Islamic society to which this statement is so strongly attached,”

Obama the antichrist
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=57983&p=1081267&hil ... t#p1081267

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=57766&p=1078299&hil ... t#p1078299

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=55856&p=1044109&hil ... t#p1044109
like I said above - that Obama is really going to be controlling things.


"Is former President Barack Obama pulling Joe Biden's strings? We'll show you what he said recently to Stephen Colbert that should have the entire media asking that very same question."

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FEBRUARY 1, 2021
ROSA ALVERIO
People will beg the Govt to bring him back

Last night before going to sleep, as I closed my eyes.
I saw this bright reddish and yellow python.
The strange thing was I heard the Lord say look at its face, it was Obama’s face. It slithered into the Presidents office.
The presidents chair was empty.
The snake stayed on the desk. I saw a quick shot of Biden’s wife, she looked like she was mourning.
I heard Biden will pass Kamala will take over for a very short time.

Congress will pass a Bill to allow Obama to come back. People will beg the Govt to bring him back.
Also I heard he is around the corner.

Shalom
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Michael Sherwin wrote: November 27th, 2020, 7:12 pm Obama is not the antichrist. Why won't people give up on this notion, LOL. The antchrist kingdom is after the resurrection. The antichrist kingdom is at the end of the time known as the millennium. The meaning of the ancient Greek word for millennium is different from the Latin millenium. It means a long indeterminate amount of time. After the resurrection people that receive terrestrial type bodies will live a very long time but they will not be immortal yet. Yes, I know it is only appointed once for man to live and then the judgement. However, Jesus death on the cross made it possible to go beyond that which was appointed. The future AC lived thousands of years ago and will only become the AC after the resurrection and then he will only be indwelt by Satan (the antichrist spirit) toward the end of the millennium. Millennium in the Greek does not mean a thousand years. The antichrist could actually come to power thousands of years after the millennium starts. People will live to be as old as they did before the flood. During that time there will be 3 kings then 10 simultaneous kings and the antichrist will come to power because the 10 kings will give power to the AC beast to rule. That could take thousands of years to play out.

OBAMA IS NOT THE ANTICHRIST
Absolutely not true Michael! I’m blown away. Completely blown away in how you misinterpret the scriptures to think the Antichrist is after the millennium. You’ll see soon enough. I agree that Obama is not the Antichrist.

If I were a betting man, I would put my money on Cain being the Antichrist.. Cain being the frontman for Satan and opposing the Davidic Servant who is the frontman for Christ... Time will tell.

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Something to think about. The Antichrist is a son of perdition. This means he would have to have been a member of the Church and have gone through the temple. No one else can become a son of perdition unless they have been through the temple.

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Rumpelstiltskin wrote: February 2nd, 2021, 2:47 pm Something to think about. The Antichrist is a son of perdition. This means he would have to have been a member of the Church and have gone through the temple. No one else can become a son of perdition unless they have been through the temple.
Now there's a thought...

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