Discerning Symbols
- neverendingthoughts
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Discerning Symbols
Symbols within the last few years have been taken to a new level. I am wondering how we appropriately discern these symbols when they cross our paths. Some are obvious and some aren't and some have both good and bad meanings depending on context. This has been on my mind a lot these last few months because it appears that these symbols at times will speak louder than words. Is this part of having eyes to see? But how to discern?
For instance, here are 2 labels off of some spices that I was given for free while shopping at the penzeys store last year. I didn't give them a thought until I was looking through my spice cabinet the other day and suddenly they both suddenly stood out because of the message I was getting from their logos. And then when I read the description on the backs I almost felt even more justified in thinking "what the heck?", "its even on my spices?"
My husband has worked in graphic design for 20+ years and he says that these symbolic/Logo messages that appear everywhere come to us in different ways:
1. Ignorance - All parties involved have no idea, they are just trying to be creative.
2. Agenda driven - this can happen 2 different ways. Either the boss has an agenda where he gives specific brand guidelines that need to be following during the creative process, or the designer themselves have hidden agendas that the the bosses are entirely ignorant too but because of the sales pitch they will go along in with it in ignorance.
Of course praying for confirmation from the Spirit is essential, but on occasion I have mistaken an emotional response as a confirmation from The Spirit and I have been entirely wrong for both good and bad.
If in fact this is part of having eyes to see, I'd think an additional witness could be ears to hear. So if you hear one thing, but see another maybe things aren't quite right?
Is this spice company just catering to its market? Or is there in fact more meaning associated with these symbols than we normally would pay attention to? In this instance does it even matter? Or am I ignorantly saying "yes" to something that I actually entirely disagree with?
My husband thinks they are catering to their market and are entirely done in ignorance. I am on the fence?
For instance, here are 2 labels off of some spices that I was given for free while shopping at the penzeys store last year. I didn't give them a thought until I was looking through my spice cabinet the other day and suddenly they both suddenly stood out because of the message I was getting from their logos. And then when I read the description on the backs I almost felt even more justified in thinking "what the heck?", "its even on my spices?"
My husband has worked in graphic design for 20+ years and he says that these symbolic/Logo messages that appear everywhere come to us in different ways:
1. Ignorance - All parties involved have no idea, they are just trying to be creative.
2. Agenda driven - this can happen 2 different ways. Either the boss has an agenda where he gives specific brand guidelines that need to be following during the creative process, or the designer themselves have hidden agendas that the the bosses are entirely ignorant too but because of the sales pitch they will go along in with it in ignorance.
Of course praying for confirmation from the Spirit is essential, but on occasion I have mistaken an emotional response as a confirmation from The Spirit and I have been entirely wrong for both good and bad.
If in fact this is part of having eyes to see, I'd think an additional witness could be ears to hear. So if you hear one thing, but see another maybe things aren't quite right?
Is this spice company just catering to its market? Or is there in fact more meaning associated with these symbols than we normally would pay attention to? In this instance does it even matter? Or am I ignorantly saying "yes" to something that I actually entirely disagree with?
My husband thinks they are catering to their market and are entirely done in ignorance. I am on the fence?
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EmmaLee
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Holy cow - can't even buy spices anymore without the Satanic messages being put in your face. I don't think that was done in ignorance or innocence. These companies know full-well what they're doing, what they're promoting. I mean, it's blatant.
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Well considering that rocket looks like a vaccine, I’m going to say the nested hearts aren’t a coincidence.
I’m a designer and I agree with your husband on how design comes about. These fall squarely in your second category.
I’m a designer and I agree with your husband on how design comes about. These fall squarely in your second category.
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One way or the other...neverendingthoughts wrote: ↑October 5th, 2020, 9:36 pm... If in fact this is part of having eyes to see, I'd think an additional witness could be ears to hear. So if you hear one thing, but see another maybe things aren't quite right?
Is this spice company just catering to its market? Or is there in fact more meaning associated with these symbols than we normally would pay attention to?
It is good to be aware of symbols FBI discovered used for pedophilia. Be “watchful,” to protect our children.

- Durzan
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Total BS honestly, I think many of us are reading too much into stuff like this. Not saying this kind of thing doesn’t happen, but at the same time, if you see Garfield (the cat) in your Toast it doesn’t take much effort to start seeing him everywhere else you look, whether he actually there or not.
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I'm surprised anyone could think Penzey's Revolution is not a liberal activist company. If you're talking about something else, I don't know what it is. It doesn't match the symbols in Thinker's post.
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The Pope agrees with you. Nothing to see here!Durzan wrote: ↑October 6th, 2020, 4:11 pm Total BS honestly, I think many of us are reading too much into stuff like this. Not saying this kind of thing doesn’t happen, but at the same time, if you see Garfield (the cat) in your Toast it doesn’t take much effort to start seeing him everywhere else you look, whether he actually there or not.

Which does the triangle mean again? Coincidence I'm sure.
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I never even thought of the colors having a factor. What color was that youth manual again? Coincidence I'm sure. How many coincidences are we at now?Thinker wrote: ↑October 6th, 2020, 3:07 pmOne way or the other...neverendingthoughts wrote: ↑October 5th, 2020, 9:36 pm... If in fact this is part of having eyes to see, I'd think an additional witness could be ears to hear. So if you hear one thing, but see another maybe things aren't quite right?
Is this spice company just catering to its market? Or is there in fact more meaning associated with these symbols than we normally would pay attention to?
It is good to be aware of symbols FBI discovered used for pedophilia. Be “watchful,” to protect our children.
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1. "girl lover" known symbol
2. "boy lover" symbol all over
3. Pink - "girl lover" symbol coincidence
4. Phall--
5. Requiring hearts and minds edited scripture
6. LDS ties to WHO which has publicly stated we should teach 4 year olds about gender identity and master------
7. YOUTH manual
Am I allowed to discuss this? I've seen two threads removed but haven't been warned yet. However, I'm beginning to wonder who is behind the efforts to remove awareness of KNOWN FBI PEDO SYMBOLS?
Luke 9:49 ¶ And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he followeth not with us.
50 And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.
Preempting the already-used Straw Man - literally nobody has said, "therefore all the brethren are -------" however, some are declaring "nothing to see here" by their wisdom alone. There is something here ... how deep and widespread is it should be the question we are all asking? Is this one rogue designer with a sick sense of humor? Or is it worse?
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- neverendingthoughts
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I can understand that perspective.Durzan wrote: ↑October 6th, 2020, 4:11 pm Total BS honestly, I think many of us are reading too much into stuff like this. Not saying this kind of thing doesn’t happen, but at the same time, if you see Garfield (the cat) in your Toast it doesn’t take much effort to start seeing him everywhere else you look, whether he actually there or not.
But I am more inclined to think these things as little as they seem do matter. It may be one of the only sure ways to tell whose who. The actual words these days are often not a good indicator of what someone’s true intentions are.
Although in the case of the spices above it seems their words make the whole thing appear even more suspect.
Climate change
We are imperfect as a nation, started imperfect...... so let’s have a revolution - we have been slow cooking long enough.
Give science a chance - “good” science is truth.....whose truth is that? And as opposed to bad science?
And this all has to do with the nutmeg in my spices right-
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I totally missed that! That totally looks like a hypodermic needle. Did I say "totally" too much?
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NewEliza
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What if you see Garfield (the president) in your toast?Durzan wrote: ↑October 6th, 2020, 4:11 pm Total BS honestly, I think many of us are reading too much into stuff like this. Not saying this kind of thing doesn’t happen, but at the same time, if you see Garfield (the cat) in your Toast it doesn’t take much effort to start seeing him everywhere else you look, whether he actually there or not.
- sandman45
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Agree the new logo for the youth also has the double heart inside the finger print. It’s not reaching. We are just putting the pieces together. Now put your thoughts on how design comes about in the church. The GAs have a lot of say in many of these things even design. I wonder which GA is part of the youth ? Also no this is NOT a stretch and don’t report it. This is how they work. Hiding in plain sight with their symbolism flaunting and bragging of what they are doing.Thinker wrote: ↑October 6th, 2020, 3:07 pmOne way or the other...neverendingthoughts wrote: ↑October 5th, 2020, 9:36 pm... If in fact this is part of having eyes to see, I'd think an additional witness could be ears to hear. So if you hear one thing, but see another maybe things aren't quite right?
Is this spice company just catering to its market? Or is there in fact more meaning associated with these symbols than we normally would pay attention to?
It is good to be aware of symbols FBI discovered used for pedophilia. Be “watchful,” to protect our children.
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- sandman45
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Exactly what the pedophiles would sayDurzan wrote: ↑October 6th, 2020, 4:11 pm Total BS honestly, I think many of us are reading too much into stuff like this. Not saying this kind of thing doesn’t happen, but at the same time, if you see Garfield (the cat) in your Toast it doesn’t take much effort to start seeing him everywhere else you look, whether he actually there or not.
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I realize that sometimes things aren’t always as dire as it may seem and this guy does a good job of making light of the situation. But I’m telling ya, sometimes we tend to make light of the things most significant. Its one of the adversary’s favorite tactics.
Especially considering we participate in a faith where symbols are highly sacred and an understanding of said symbols and how they in one way represent the covenants or promises we make with God... Do we as a people fully understand that? Do we really know what those symbols represent? I’d say its probably maybe 50% of members have any idea what specifically is happening in the temple. And I am not blaming anyone other then ourselves. My point being, if we can stress symbols so much in our faith, how can we disregard symbols as nothing elsewhere, when in reality it could be something major. How to discern?
Especially considering we participate in a faith where symbols are highly sacred and an understanding of said symbols and how they in one way represent the covenants or promises we make with God... Do we as a people fully understand that? Do we really know what those symbols represent? I’d say its probably maybe 50% of members have any idea what specifically is happening in the temple. And I am not blaming anyone other then ourselves. My point being, if we can stress symbols so much in our faith, how can we disregard symbols as nothing elsewhere, when in reality it could be something major. How to discern?
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FoundMyEden
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Along with the hypodermic needle which points to vaccination (no pun intended there...), the vaccination is supposed to change the structure of our cells as well, amirite?
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neverendingthoughts wrote: ↑October 6th, 2020, 10:54 pm I realize that sometimes things aren’t always as dire as it may seem and this guy does a good job of making light of the situation. But I’m telling ya, sometimes we tend to make light of the things most significant. Its one of the adversary’s favorite tactics.
... if we can stress symbols so much in our faith, how can we disregard symbols as nothing elsewhere, when in reality it could be something major. How to discern?
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You are right on. Not every symbol is cause for concern, but some are, especially in context of our religion, which regularly uses symbolism.
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The heart inside another heart matches a symbol FBI discovered that pedophiles use.

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Congrats all! A new record! Longest living anti-pedo thread! Hooray for no censorship!
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R in GPRs is for Rocket
What rocket looks like a vaccine
Emojis are similar
The 910 thread emerged as a strange anomaly, and now this.
Edit: ok see it now. Pi eights = 22.5 degrees too.
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Most people are not aware the meaning of these symbols and who is using them, or the agenda behind them.Thinker wrote: ↑October 6th, 2020, 3:07 pmOne way or the other...neverendingthoughts wrote: ↑October 5th, 2020, 9:36 pm... If in fact this is part of having eyes to see, I'd think an additional witness could be ears to hear. So if you hear one thing, but see another maybe things aren't quite right?
Is this spice company just catering to its market? Or is there in fact more meaning associated with these symbols than we normally would pay attention to?
It is good to be aware of symbols FBI discovered used for pedophilia. Be “watchful,” to protect our children.
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I have seen them on the back of vehicles, primarily with other LGBT bumper stickers. Also a number of elected officials have been wearing and promoting these symbols.
Yes I said it over 12 years ago. The LGBT would normalize pedophilia after they would normalize homosexuality. People thought I was nuts. I had no doubt in my mind they were headed for sexual anarchy.
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Just because you're crazy doesn't mean we're not headed for sexual anarchy!DreamTheater1976 wrote: ↑October 10th, 2020, 3:15 pmMost people are not aware the meaning of these symbols and who is using them, or the agenda behind them.Thinker wrote: ↑October 6th, 2020, 3:07 pmOne way or the other...neverendingthoughts wrote: ↑October 5th, 2020, 9:36 pm... If in fact this is part of having eyes to see, I'd think an additional witness could be ears to hear. So if you hear one thing, but see another maybe things aren't quite right?
Is this spice company just catering to its market? Or is there in fact more meaning associated with these symbols than we normally would pay attention to?
It is good to be aware of symbols FBI discovered used for pedophilia. Be “watchful,” to protect our children.
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I have seen them on the back of vehicles, primarily with other LGBT bumper stickers. Also a number of elected officials have been wearing and promoting these symbols.
Yes I said it over 12 years ago. The LGBT would normalize pedophilia after they would normalize homosexuality. People thought I was nuts. I had no doubt in my mind they were headed for sexual anarchy.
Just kidding of course
But the recent law in CA softening consequences of adults sodomizing minors.... And just before a general election....
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In other sexual deviancey news the "out of the shadows" Facebook page was removed and content banned from Facebook.
For those who don't know the movie is about pedophilia in Hollywood and its infiltration by propaganda, pizzagate, etc.
Google and YouTube also make finding the video difficult despite it having many millions of views.
Yes we do have a massive pedophilia problem folks.
https://twitter.com/Crux41507251/status ... 08390?s=20
For those who don't know the movie is about pedophilia in Hollywood and its infiltration by propaganda, pizzagate, etc.
Google and YouTube also make finding the video difficult despite it having many millions of views.
Yes we do have a massive pedophilia problem folks.
https://twitter.com/Crux41507251/status ... 08390?s=20
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The new youth manual logo does not have the pedophile logo in it.
(Edited to correct typo: pedophile)
(Edited to correct typo: pedophile)
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