LDS - The End of Silence in Heaven (The Coming of 1st Trumpet - Neowise) part 2
The 2nd Coming of Jesus Christ Timeline and the 70th week of daniel (part 1)
Meeting with Dan Wilkinson on "Last Days Prophecy"
Dan seems to follow Jodi Stoddards presentation quite closely. I guess the only issue I have is in picking specific dates on when the exact timing of things begin or end. For example in Revelations 8 concerning the silence in heaven John said it would last ABOUT the space of half an hour. He didn’t say It would last EXACTLY the space of half an hour. About could be rather subjective in time frame. Maybe 30 minutes of God's time frame. Maybe 40 minutes. Who knows? I think the 20.8 years of our time is a pretty good guess for the half an hour period but no way of knowing for sure exactly when that ends as per what John was saying and if it would really be Halloween 2020 or for that matter even several months or a year or two or more later. 5 or 10 minutes of the Lords timeframe could make a pretty big difference.. Will be watching intently to see other signs unfold. Regardless its sure a good time to pray for the spirit of discernment and guidance.LdsMarco wrote: ↑August 2nd, 2020, 10:39 am Half an Hour Silence in Heaven and the coming of the 1st Trumpet
LDS - The End of Silence in Heaven (The Coming of 1st Trumpet - Neowise) part 2
The 2nd Coming of Jesus Christ Timeline and the 70th week of daniel (part 1)
Meeting with Dan Wilkinson on "Last Days Prophecy"
Post by BeNotDeceived »
Joined:Sat Jan 02, 2021 8:10 pmwoodro76 wrote: ↑January 2nd, 2021, 10:01 pm Upon further research into the teachings of the Joseph Smith Jr. and following general authorities of the church up to the present day we aren't yet in the Seventh Seal. There are so many false teachers/Christs who set themselves up for priestcrafts because they aren't doing their research going to the source of the doctrine of the church. If the brethren have not expounded on the events of the Seventh Seal, the Half hour of Silence and the 7 years of tribulation, no member of the church has authority to teach such things with authority. These things are left a mystery for a specific reason as they aren't relevant to the now in our day.
When the Seventh Seal is to be opened, I am very sure the the currant Prophet will gather a solemn assembly on a grand scale with the elect of the church and usher in the seventh seal as envisioned in the scriptures. Before any man knows, the prophet will know. Not to discount the prophecies, yet we should know them, yet not be so focused on them that we lose the spirit to teach us because we are fanatical about what we learn. There is wisdom in doing your research and learning what both early Prophets such as Jospeh Smith Jr. up to the modern day prophets and apostles have said on the subject of the second coming. Mysteries are hidden in the manuals of the church that some false teachers don't recognize or haven't even seen yet.
Dan Wilkinson is a young convert to the church. I believe he means well and has a good heart, yet he lacks the knowledge that would make his videos viable in fulfilling prophecy according to his knowledge. Jodi Stoddard has a great some of knowledge yet she put her faith in another false teacher who was excommunicated by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. There are many members of the church concerned about fanatical members teaching what hasn't been taught by and/or the prophet himself. Be careful who you put your faith in, especially in the arm of flesh. Spiritually speaking, those who are teaching the truth will spiritually align with all of the past prophets and apostles in the ancient scriptures, Joseph Smith's Jr. time and up to the present. Doctrine given by Joseph Smith Jr. is just as relevant as revelation given by the modern day prophets and apostles. The prophet will always know before we do. Anything else is missing the mark.
If the brethren have not expounded on the events of the Seventh Seal, the Half hour of Silence and the 7 years of tribulation, no member of the church has authority to teach such things with authority.
Because Joseph Smith Jr was the Prophet of the last dispensation, and the Prophet holds all the keys of that dispensation. Therefore, this dispensation will be different the the past dispensations where this one will not apostatize like the rest have. The modern day prophet will have the keys to usher in the opening of the seventh seal, the gathering of the lost 10 tribes of Israel. That is why anyone who believes otherwise is missing the mark just like the Jews who ignored the 1st coming of Christ Jesus.Chip wrote: ↑January 2nd, 2021, 11:39 pmIf the brethren have not expounded on the events of the Seventh Seal, the Half hour of Silence and the 7 years of tribulation, no member of the church has authority to teach such things with authority.
But, if the brethren keep delivering the church into the NWO, why would they receive revelation that they are already against, and then dutifully convey it to the church? This is a pipe dream from a bygone era.
This is as ridiculous as Democrats believing Joe Biden actually won the election.
People need to pull their heads out and get real. Be ye not deceived.
Post by BeNotDeceived »
What do you suppose is the role of the one referred to as the marred or Davidic Servant, in relation to the function and offices of the church?woodro76 wrote: ↑January 2nd, 2021, 11:57 pmBecause Joseph Smith Jr was the Prophet of the last dispensation, and the Prophet holds all the keys of that dispensation. Therefore, this dispensation will be different the the past dispensations where this one will not apostatize like the rest have. The modern day prophet will have the keys to usher in the opening of the seventh seal, the gathering of the lost 10 tribes of Israel. That is why anyone who believes otherwise is missing the mark just like the Jews who ignored the 1st coming of Christ Jesus.Chip wrote: ↑January 2nd, 2021, 11:39 pmIf the brethren have not expounded on the events of the Seventh Seal, the Half hour of Silence and the 7 years of tribulation, no member of the church has authority to teach such things with authority.
But, if the brethren keep delivering the church into the NWO, why would they receive revelation that they are already against, and then dutifully convey it to the church? This is a pipe dream from a bygone era.
This is as ridiculous as Democrats believing Joe Biden actually won the election.
People need to pull their heads out and get real. Be ye not deceived.
woodro76 wrote: ↑January 2nd, 2021, 11:57 pmBecause Joseph Smith Jr was the Prophet of the last dispensation, and the Prophet holds all the keys of that dispensation. Therefore, this dispensation will be different the the past dispensations where this one will not apostatize like the rest have. The modern day prophet will have the keys to usher in the opening of the seventh seal, the gathering of the lost 10 tribes of Israel. That is why anyone who believes otherwise is missing the mark just like the Jews who ignored the 1st coming of Christ Jesus.Chip wrote: ↑January 2nd, 2021, 11:39 pmIf the brethren have not expounded on the events of the Seventh Seal, the Half hour of Silence and the 7 years of tribulation, no member of the church has authority to teach such things with authority.
But, if the brethren keep delivering the church into the NWO, why would they receive revelation that they are already against, and then dutifully convey it to the church? This is a pipe dream from a bygone era.
This is as ridiculous as Democrats believing Joe Biden actually won the election.
People need to pull their heads out and get real. Be ye not deceived.
Post by BeNotDeceived »
My understanding is he will be the King of the Earth or the Right hand man of Jesus Christ himself while he isn't present on the earth during the millennium.BeNotDeceived wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2021, 12:19 amWhat do you suppose is the role of the one referred to as the marred or Davidic Servant, in relation to the function and offices of the church?woodro76 wrote: ↑January 2nd, 2021, 11:57 pmBecause Joseph Smith Jr was the Prophet of the last dispensation, and the Prophet holds all the keys of that dispensation. Therefore, this dispensation will be different the the past dispensations where this one will not apostatize like the rest have. The modern day prophet will have the keys to usher in the opening of the seventh seal, the gathering of the lost 10 tribes of Israel. That is why anyone who believes otherwise is missing the mark just like the Jews who ignored the 1st coming of Christ Jesus.Chip wrote: ↑January 2nd, 2021, 11:39 pmIf the brethren have not expounded on the events of the Seventh Seal, the Half hour of Silence and the 7 years of tribulation, no member of the church has authority to teach such things with authority.
But, if the brethren keep delivering the church into the NWO, why would they receive revelation that they are already against, and then dutifully convey it to the church? This is a pipe dream from a bygone era.
This is as ridiculous as Democrats believing Joe Biden actually won the election.
People need to pull their heads out and get real. Be ye not deceived.
Post by Robin Hood »
Classic scousers stealing from othersRobin Hood wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2021, 1:33 am This guy appears to simply repeat the presentations of others, almost word for word, but with a Liverpool accent.
Post by Robin Hood »
On the plus side he served in the Scotland Edinburgh Mission which, as everyone knows, is without doubt the greatest mission on planet earth and beyond.Luke wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2021, 7:48 amClassic scousers stealing from othersRobin Hood wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2021, 1:33 am This guy appears to simply repeat the presentations of others, almost word for word, but with a Liverpool accent.
Post by Cruiserdude »
You sure?.... I actually heard that one is a close second to the Buenos Aires Norte mission. And that science proved it so it can't be discussed furtherRobin Hood wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2021, 7:55 amOn the plus side he served in the Scotland Edinburgh Mission which, as everyone knows, is without doubt the greatest mission on planet earth and beyond.Luke wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2021, 7:48 amClassic scousers stealing from othersRobin Hood wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2021, 1:33 am This guy appears to simply repeat the presentations of others, almost word for word, but with a Liverpool accent.
Post by Robin Hood »
Oh yes, I'm absolutely sure.Cruiserdude wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2021, 7:59 amYou sure?.... I actually heard that one is a close second to the Buenos Aires Norte mission. And that science proved it so it can't be discussed furtherRobin Hood wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2021, 7:55 amOn the plus side he served in the Scotland Edinburgh Mission which, as everyone knows, is without doubt the greatest mission on planet earth and beyond.Luke wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2021, 7:48 amClassic scousers stealing from othersRobin Hood wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2021, 1:33 am This guy appears to simply repeat the presentations of others, almost word for word, but with a Liverpool accent.
Post by LDS Physician »
Have you not read D&C 101:43-63? Church leaders are prophesized there to "mess up" and other servants will be called in their place. Similar descriptions are to be had in Isaiah 28, Jacob 5, and elsewhere. There are multiple examples of prophets doing the wrong things in scripture. Recall Moses, Jonah, David, Peter, Joseph Smith ... and the list goes on. This doesn't make them null and void regarding their callings, obviously, but to think they'll know everything before everyone else and never make a mistake ever is incorrect.woodro76 wrote: ↑January 2nd, 2021, 10:01 pm Upon further research into the teachings of the Joseph Smith Jr. and following general authorities of the church up to the present day we aren't yet in the Seventh Seal. There are so many false teachers/Christs who set themselves up for priestcrafts because they aren't doing their research going to the source of the doctrine of the church. If the brethren have not expounded on the events of the Seventh Seal, the Half hour of Silence and the 7 years of tribulation, no member of the church has authority to teach such things with authority. These things are left a mystery for a specific reason as they aren't relevant to the now in our day.
When the Seventh Seal is to be opened, I am very sure the the currant Prophet will gather a solemn assembly on a grand scale with the elect of the church and usher in the seventh seal as envisioned in the scriptures. Before any man knows, the prophet will know. Not to discount the prophecies, yet we should know them, yet not be so focused on them that we lose the spirit to teach us because we are fanatical about what we learn. There is wisdom in doing your research and learning what both early Prophets such as Jospeh Smith Jr. up to the modern day prophets and apostles have said on the subject of the second coming. Mysteries are hidden in the manuals of the church that some false teachers don't recognize or haven't even seen yet.
Dan Wilkinson is a young convert to the church. I believe he means well and has a good heart, yet he lacks the knowledge that would make his videos viable in fulfilling prophecy according to his knowledge. Jodi Stoddard has a great some of knowledge yet she put her faith in another false teacher who was excommunicated by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. There are many members of the church concerned about fanatical members teaching what hasn't been taught by and/or the prophet himself. Be careful who you put your faith in, especially in the arm of flesh. Spiritually speaking, those who are teaching the truth will spiritually align with all of the past prophets and apostles in the ancient scriptures, Joseph Smith's Jr. time and up to the present. Doctrine given by Joseph Smith Jr. is just as relevant as revelation given by the modern day prophets and apostles. The prophet will always know before we do. Anything else is missing the mark.
Wow, Amen to your Priesthood! The church restored with Jospeh Smith Jr. will never be taken from the earth like other dispensations. Man is not perfect, yet the Power of the Priesthood when exercised righteously is perfect. The grand solemn assembly is supposed to happen in conjunction with the opening of the seventh seal and the half hour of heaven. Yet who would be authorized to do this? If I am wrong, please share references and expound. Amos 3:7 The Lord's prophet. I don't think I need to elaborate any further.LDS Physician wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2021, 7:36 pmHave you not read D&C 101:43-63? Church leaders are prophesized there to "mess up" and other servants will be called in their place. Similar descriptions are to be had in Isaiah 28, Jacob 5, and elsewhere. There are multiple examples of prophets doing the wrong things in scripture. Recall Moses, Jonah, David, Peter, Joseph Smith ... and the list goes on. This doesn't make them null and void regarding their callings, obviously, but to think they'll know everything before everyone else and never make a mistake ever is incorrect.woodro76 wrote: ↑January 2nd, 2021, 10:01 pm Upon further research into the teachings of the Joseph Smith Jr. and following general authorities of the church up to the present day we aren't yet in the Seventh Seal. There are so many false teachers/Christs who set themselves up for priestcrafts because they aren't doing their research going to the source of the doctrine of the church. If the brethren have not expounded on the events of the Seventh Seal, the Half hour of Silence and the 7 years of tribulation, no member of the church has authority to teach such things with authority. These things are left a mystery for a specific reason as they aren't relevant to the now in our day.
When the Seventh Seal is to be opened, I am very sure the the currant Prophet will gather a solemn assembly on a grand scale with the elect of the church and usher in the seventh seal as envisioned in the scriptures. Before any man knows, the prophet will know. Not to discount the prophecies, yet we should know them, yet not be so focused on them that we lose the spirit to teach us because we are fanatical about what we learn. There is wisdom in doing your research and learning what both early Prophets such as Jospeh Smith Jr. up to the modern day prophets and apostles have said on the subject of the second coming. Mysteries are hidden in the manuals of the church that some false teachers don't recognize or haven't even seen yet.
Dan Wilkinson is a young convert to the church. I believe he means well and has a good heart, yet he lacks the knowledge that would make his videos viable in fulfilling prophecy according to his knowledge. Jodi Stoddard has a great some of knowledge yet she put her faith in another false teacher who was excommunicated by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. There are many members of the church concerned about fanatical members teaching what hasn't been taught by and/or the prophet himself. Be careful who you put your faith in, especially in the arm of flesh. Spiritually speaking, those who are teaching the truth will spiritually align with all of the past prophets and apostles in the ancient scriptures, Joseph Smith's Jr. time and up to the present. Doctrine given by Joseph Smith Jr. is just as relevant as revelation given by the modern day prophets and apostles. The prophet will always know before we do. Anything else is missing the mark.
I have never read that the current prophet will call a solemn assembly "on a grand scale" with the elect of the church to usher in the 7th seal.
There are so many things wrong with what you wrote in your three paragraphs that I don't know where to go next.
what a joke.woodro76 wrote: ↑January 2nd, 2021, 10:01 pm Upon further research into the teachings of the Joseph Smith Jr. and following general authorities of the church up to the present day we aren't yet in the Seventh Seal.
There are so many false teachers/Christs who set themselves up for priestcrafts because they aren't doing their research going to the source of the doctrine of the church.
If the brethren have not expounded on the events of the Seventh Seal, the Half hour of Silence and the 7 years of tribulation, no member of the church has authority to teach such things with authority.
These things are left a mystery for a specific reason as they aren't relevant to the now in our day.
I'm a brethren supporter, but I find your stance and complaints to be hypocritical. You're complaining that these two are making assumptions and speculating, and not following exactly what the brethren have taught, complaining that they aren't teaching that we are OBVIOUSLY (in your mind) in the sixth seal still, not talking about the New World Order, the antichrist, and that there is a 7 year tribulation, that the abomination of desolation is when the anti-Chirst desecrates it etc. The brethren haven't spoken about any of these things. So you are also going against the brethren. In fact many of these ideas come from main-stream Christian commentary on Bible prophecy. You're interpreting last day prophecy in your own mind making assumptions and speculating, thinking you know what it will look like and how it will be fulfilled, so you're doing the exact same thing you are accusing these two of doing.woodro76 wrote: ↑January 4th, 2021, 5:17 amWow, Amen to your Priesthood! The church restored with Jospeh Smith Jr. will never be taken from the earth like other dispensations. Man is not perfect, yet the Power of the Priesthood when exercised righteously is perfect. The grand solemn assembly is supposed to happen in conjunction with the opening of the seventh seal and the half hour of heaven. Yet who would be authorized to do this? If I am wrong, please share references and expound. Amos 3:7 The Lord's prophet. I don't think I need to elaborate any further.LDS Physician wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2021, 7:36 pmHave you not read D&C 101:43-63? Church leaders are prophesized there to "mess up" and other servants will be called in their place. Similar descriptions are to be had in Isaiah 28, Jacob 5, and elsewhere. There are multiple examples of prophets doing the wrong things in scripture. Recall Moses, Jonah, David, Peter, Joseph Smith ... and the list goes on. This doesn't make them null and void regarding their callings, obviously, but to think they'll know everything before everyone else and never make a mistake ever is incorrect.woodro76 wrote: ↑January 2nd, 2021, 10:01 pm Upon further research into the teachings of the Joseph Smith Jr. and following general authorities of the church up to the present day we aren't yet in the Seventh Seal. There are so many false teachers/Christs who set themselves up for priestcrafts because they aren't doing their research going to the source of the doctrine of the church. If the brethren have not expounded on the events of the Seventh Seal, the Half hour of Silence and the 7 years of tribulation, no member of the church has authority to teach such things with authority. These things are left a mystery for a specific reason as they aren't relevant to the now in our day.
When the Seventh Seal is to be opened, I am very sure the the currant Prophet will gather a solemn assembly on a grand scale with the elect of the church and usher in the seventh seal as envisioned in the scriptures. Before any man knows, the prophet will know. Not to discount the prophecies, yet we should know them, yet not be so focused on them that we lose the spirit to teach us because we are fanatical about what we learn. There is wisdom in doing your research and learning what both early Prophets such as Jospeh Smith Jr. up to the modern day prophets and apostles have said on the subject of the second coming. Mysteries are hidden in the manuals of the church that some false teachers don't recognize or haven't even seen yet.
Dan Wilkinson is a young convert to the church. I believe he means well and has a good heart, yet he lacks the knowledge that would make his videos viable in fulfilling prophecy according to his knowledge. Jodi Stoddard has a great some of knowledge yet she put her faith in another false teacher who was excommunicated by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. There are many members of the church concerned about fanatical members teaching what hasn't been taught by and/or the prophet himself. Be careful who you put your faith in, especially in the arm of flesh. Spiritually speaking, those who are teaching the truth will spiritually align with all of the past prophets and apostles in the ancient scriptures, Joseph Smith's Jr. time and up to the present. Doctrine given by Joseph Smith Jr. is just as relevant as revelation given by the modern day prophets and apostles. The prophet will always know before we do. Anything else is missing the mark.
I have never read that the current prophet will call a solemn assembly "on a grand scale" with the elect of the church to usher in the 7th seal.
There are so many things wrong with what you wrote in your three paragraphs that I don't know where to go next.
Jodi Stoddard isn't teaching the whole truth. Dan Wilkinson is sharing and expounding more on what he believes in the events leading up to the second coming. Yet, both of them are making way out their assumptions and speculating on what will happen. They might be educating, yet they are also causing concern to those who know the truth within the church. It is just impossible for us to be in the seventh seal and half way into the seven year tribulation as we don't have world peace, and no New World Order. Nor has the Jerusalem temple been built and ancient sacrifices resumed by the Jews. The abomination of desolation will happen when the anti-christ enters the temple desecrating it, setting himself up to be God. The math doesn't add up, and timing is off. We have been warned of priestcraft in all its disguises.
I might be plain and simple in what I am right, yet I know what needs to happen before the second coming is to take place. Jesus Christ will not skip steps and just blind side his elect. He will fulfill prophecy as he has don't so in ancient times. Those who are foolish will speculate, make assumptions and miss the mark when he comes. Prophecies given by Joseph Smith Jr. gives the Lord's elect the ability to know what his happening prior to the second coming. Revelations is given to all those who believe in Christ and have faith in him to know the events prior to the end of the six seal.
Post by Robin Hood »
Just bare in mind that all prophecy is conditional. It does not have to happen. A lot of people fail to understand this.woodro76 wrote: ↑January 4th, 2021, 5:17 amWow, Amen to your Priesthood! The church restored with Jospeh Smith Jr. will never be taken from the earth like other dispensations. Man is not perfect, yet the Power of the Priesthood when exercised righteously is perfect. The grand solemn assembly is supposed to happen in conjunction with the opening of the seventh seal and the half hour of heaven. Yet who would be authorized to do this? If I am wrong, please share references and expound. Amos 3:7 The Lord's prophet. I don't think I need to elaborate any further.LDS Physician wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2021, 7:36 pmHave you not read D&C 101:43-63? Church leaders are prophesized there to "mess up" and other servants will be called in their place. Similar descriptions are to be had in Isaiah 28, Jacob 5, and elsewhere. There are multiple examples of prophets doing the wrong things in scripture. Recall Moses, Jonah, David, Peter, Joseph Smith ... and the list goes on. This doesn't make them null and void regarding their callings, obviously, but to think they'll know everything before everyone else and never make a mistake ever is incorrect.woodro76 wrote: ↑January 2nd, 2021, 10:01 pm Upon further research into the teachings of the Joseph Smith Jr. and following general authorities of the church up to the present day we aren't yet in the Seventh Seal. There are so many false teachers/Christs who set themselves up for priestcrafts because they aren't doing their research going to the source of the doctrine of the church. If the brethren have not expounded on the events of the Seventh Seal, the Half hour of Silence and the 7 years of tribulation, no member of the church has authority to teach such things with authority. These things are left a mystery for a specific reason as they aren't relevant to the now in our day.
When the Seventh Seal is to be opened, I am very sure the the currant Prophet will gather a solemn assembly on a grand scale with the elect of the church and usher in the seventh seal as envisioned in the scriptures. Before any man knows, the prophet will know. Not to discount the prophecies, yet we should know them, yet not be so focused on them that we lose the spirit to teach us because we are fanatical about what we learn. There is wisdom in doing your research and learning what both early Prophets such as Jospeh Smith Jr. up to the modern day prophets and apostles have said on the subject of the second coming. Mysteries are hidden in the manuals of the church that some false teachers don't recognize or haven't even seen yet.
Dan Wilkinson is a young convert to the church. I believe he means well and has a good heart, yet he lacks the knowledge that would make his videos viable in fulfilling prophecy according to his knowledge. Jodi Stoddard has a great some of knowledge yet she put her faith in another false teacher who was excommunicated by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. There are many members of the church concerned about fanatical members teaching what hasn't been taught by and/or the prophet himself. Be careful who you put your faith in, especially in the arm of flesh. Spiritually speaking, those who are teaching the truth will spiritually align with all of the past prophets and apostles in the ancient scriptures, Joseph Smith's Jr. time and up to the present. Doctrine given by Joseph Smith Jr. is just as relevant as revelation given by the modern day prophets and apostles. The prophet will always know before we do. Anything else is missing the mark.
I have never read that the current prophet will call a solemn assembly "on a grand scale" with the elect of the church to usher in the 7th seal.
There are so many things wrong with what you wrote in your three paragraphs that I don't know where to go next.
Jodi Stoddard isn't teaching the whole truth. Dan Wilkinson is sharing and expounding more on what he believes in the events leading up to the second coming. Yet, both of them are making way out their assumptions and speculating on what will happen. They might be educating, yet they are also causing concern to those who know the truth within the church. It is just impossible for us to be in the seventh seal and half way into the seven year tribulation as we don't have world peace, and no New World Order. Nor has the Jerusalem temple been built and ancient sacrifices resumed by the Jews. The abomination of desolation will happen when the anti-christ enters the temple desecrating it, setting himself up to be God. The math doesn't add up, and timing is off. We have been warned of priestcraft in all its disguises.
I might be plain and simple in what I am right, yet I know what needs to happen before the second coming is to take place. Jesus Christ will not skip steps and just blind side his elect. He will fulfill prophecy as he has don't so in ancient times. Those who are foolish will speculate, make assumptions and miss the mark when he comes. Prophecies given by Joseph Smith Jr. gives the Lord's elect the ability to know what his happening prior to the second coming. Revelations is given to all those who believe in Christ and have faith in him to know the events prior to the end of the six seal.
Post by BeNotDeceived »
Sounds about right, based on my limited understanding.woodro76 wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2021, 1:15 amBeNotDeceived wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2021, 12:19 amMy understanding is he will be the King of the Earth or the Right hand man of Jesus Christ himself while he isn't present on the earth during the millennium.
Incorrect! All of what I talk about is in the scriptures. Those whom I do complain of aren't following the entire truth. If they were, they would be including the things they are leaving out. The brethren haven't spoken about these things as of yet because these are the things we don't need to worry about at the moment. Let me share something from Jospeh Smith Jr. that might clarify what I am saying.Sarah wrote: ↑January 4th, 2021, 10:11 amI'm a brethren supporter, but I find your stance and complaints to be hypocritical. You're complaining that these two are making assumptions and speculating, and not following exactly what the brethren have taught, complaining that they aren't teaching that we are OBVIOUSLY (in your mind) in the sixth seal still, not talking about the New World Order, the antichrist, and that there is a 7 year tribulation, that the abomination of desolation is when the anti-Chirst desecrates it etc. The brethren haven't spoken about any of these things. So you are also going against the brethren. In fact many of these ideas come from main-stream Christian commentary on Bible prophecy. You're interpreting last day prophecy in your own mind making assumptions and speculating, thinking you know what it will look like and how it will be fulfilled, so you're doing the exact same thing you are accusing these two of doing.woodro76 wrote: ↑January 4th, 2021, 5:17 amWow, Amen to your Priesthood! The church restored with Jospeh Smith Jr. will never be taken from the earth like other dispensations. Man is not perfect, yet the Power of the Priesthood when exercised righteously is perfect. The grand solemn assembly is supposed to happen in conjunction with the opening of the seventh seal and the half hour of heaven. Yet who would be authorized to do this? If I am wrong, please share references and expound. Amos 3:7 The Lord's prophet. I don't think I need to elaborate any further.LDS Physician wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2021, 7:36 pmHave you not read D&C 101:43-63? Church leaders are prophesized there to "mess up" and other servants will be called in their place. Similar descriptions are to be had in Isaiah 28, Jacob 5, and elsewhere. There are multiple examples of prophets doing the wrong things in scripture. Recall Moses, Jonah, David, Peter, Joseph Smith ... and the list goes on. This doesn't make them null and void regarding their callings, obviously, but to think they'll know everything before everyone else and never make a mistake ever is incorrect.woodro76 wrote: ↑January 2nd, 2021, 10:01 pm Upon further research into the teachings of the Joseph Smith Jr. and following general authorities of the church up to the present day we aren't yet in the Seventh Seal. There are so many false teachers/Christs who set themselves up for priestcrafts because they aren't doing their research going to the source of the doctrine of the church. If the brethren have not expounded on the events of the Seventh Seal, the Half hour of Silence and the 7 years of tribulation, no member of the church has authority to teach such things with authority. These things are left a mystery for a specific reason as they aren't relevant to the now in our day.
When the Seventh Seal is to be opened, I am very sure the the currant Prophet will gather a solemn assembly on a grand scale with the elect of the church and usher in the seventh seal as envisioned in the scriptures. Before any man knows, the prophet will know. Not to discount the prophecies, yet we should know them, yet not be so focused on them that we lose the spirit to teach us because we are fanatical about what we learn. There is wisdom in doing your research and learning what both early Prophets such as Jospeh Smith Jr. up to the modern day prophets and apostles have said on the subject of the second coming. Mysteries are hidden in the manuals of the church that some false teachers don't recognize or haven't even seen yet.
Dan Wilkinson is a young convert to the church. I believe he means well and has a good heart, yet he lacks the knowledge that would make his videos viable in fulfilling prophecy according to his knowledge. Jodi Stoddard has a great some of knowledge yet she put her faith in another false teacher who was excommunicated by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. There are many members of the church concerned about fanatical members teaching what hasn't been taught by and/or the prophet himself. Be careful who you put your faith in, especially in the arm of flesh. Spiritually speaking, those who are teaching the truth will spiritually align with all of the past prophets and apostles in the ancient scriptures, Joseph Smith's Jr. time and up to the present. Doctrine given by Joseph Smith Jr. is just as relevant as revelation given by the modern day prophets and apostles. The prophet will always know before we do. Anything else is missing the mark.
I have never read that the current prophet will call a solemn assembly "on a grand scale" with the elect of the church to usher in the 7th seal.
There are so many things wrong with what you wrote in your three paragraphs that I don't know where to go next.
Jodi Stoddard isn't teaching the whole truth. Dan Wilkinson is sharing and expounding more on what he believes in the events leading up to the second coming. Yet, both of them are making way out their assumptions and speculating on what will happen. They might be educating, yet they are also causing concern to those who know the truth within the church. It is just impossible for us to be in the seventh seal and half way into the seven year tribulation as we don't have world peace, and no New World Order. Nor has the Jerusalem temple been built and ancient sacrifices resumed by the Jews. The abomination of desolation will happen when the anti-christ enters the temple desecrating it, setting himself up to be God. The math doesn't add up, and timing is off. We have been warned of priestcraft in all its disguises.
I might be plain and simple in what I am right, yet I know what needs to happen before the second coming is to take place. Jesus Christ will not skip steps and just blind side his elect. He will fulfill prophecy as he has don't so in ancient times. Those who are foolish will speculate, make assumptions and miss the mark when he comes. Prophecies given by Joseph Smith Jr. gives the Lord's elect the ability to know what his happening prior to the second coming. Revelations is given to all those who believe in Christ and have faith in him to know the events prior to the end of the six seal.
This would happen in the millennium when the Earth is a terrestrial state. So, I imagine that Christ himself will introduce us to David and as only those who believe in Christ will be on the Earth, I think we will be very accepting of him.BeNotDeceived wrote: ↑January 5th, 2021, 12:15 amSounds about right, based on my limited understanding.woodro76 wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2021, 1:15 amBeNotDeceived wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2021, 12:19 amMy understanding is he will be the King of the Earth or the Right hand man of Jesus Christ himself while he isn't present on the earth during the millennium.
How do you suppose people at large or the church will become aware of his presence?
Will the church welcome him with open arms?
Your response with your own private interpretations and quotes from sandy foundations is clearly not doctrine or based on scripture. I make no apology for that. Clearly, as the Nephi eloquently states that there will be two churches, one of the Devil and the other the Church of the Lamb of God in the last days. There will be members who call themselves Christian who will be of the church of the devil. Simply, Jospeh Smith Jr, The Book of Mormon and the Church and prophets are true.They go hand in hand. Either they are or are not. There is no sandy foundation or middle ground here. The church of the last dispensation will not fall to apostasy like it has in other dispensations. As Joseph Smith Jr. will return to account for it with the other prophets during that time. Jospeh Smith Jr. holds all the keys of all the prophets of the prior dispensations. He is the only person who has done more for Lord's elect besides that of Jesus Christ himself. The brethren can't lead us in to apostasy without the Lord intervening in some way. It is foolish to believe that church will apostatize when it is going to be apart of the preparation of the Second coming. Yet, it is not foolish to think that 1/3 of the membership will leave the church because of apostasy. It happened during the time of Joseph Smith Jr and it can happen in our day.SPIRIT wrote: ↑January 4th, 2021, 8:36 amwhat a joke.woodro76 wrote: ↑January 2nd, 2021, 10:01 pm Upon further research into the teachings of the Joseph Smith Jr. and following general authorities of the church up to the present day we aren't yet in the Seventh Seal.
There are so many false teachers/Christs who set themselves up for priestcrafts because they aren't doing their research going to the source of the doctrine of the church.
If the brethren have not expounded on the events of the Seventh Seal, the Half hour of Silence and the 7 years of tribulation, no member of the church has authority to teach such things with authority.
These things are left a mystery for a specific reason as they aren't relevant to the now in our day.
there ya go again.
and talk about false teachers who set themselves up;
look no further than the church leaders that you idolize so much - trusting in the arm of the flesh. SMH
I think you had better read this.
Be Wary of Man and His Words
http://www.7witnesses.com/uploads/3/8/9 ... _words.pdf
They have no more authority to teach about ANYTHING - than you or I do.
The church is in total apostasy and (it's leaders - the drunkards of Ephraim) ***
do not receive revelation, and have no authority.
but you can go ahead being deceived and asleep, and continue to believe like most members -
saying "all is well in Zion - yea, Zion prospereth, all is well"
Nephi did indeed see our day and described us perfectly.
2 Nephi 28 is about who ? you got it, the "all is well in Zion" member. (which is the overwhelming majority of the members)
21 And others will he pacify, and lull them away into carnal security, that they will say: All is well in Zion; yea, Zion prospereth,
all is well—and thus the devil cheateth their souls, and leadeth them away carefully down to hell.
***
24 Therefore, wo be unto him that is at ease in Zion!
25 Wo be unto him that crieth: All is well!
2 Nephi 28
"that ye shall awake to a sense of your awful situation"
Ether 8
and heed the warnings in The Book of Mormon
O that ye would awake; awake from a deep sleep, yea,
even from the sleep of hell,
and shake off the awful chains by which ye are bound,
which are the chains which bind
the children of men, that they are carried away captive down
to the eternal gulf of misery and woe.
2 Nephi 1:13
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Isaiah 28 exposes the follies of the "Drunkards of Ephraim! " (church leaders)
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=55396&p=1037704&hil ... h#p1037704
Isaiah 28
Ephraim and its prophets reap disaster for being delusional and for rejecting divine revelation.
1 Woe to the garlands of glory of the drunkards of Ephraim!
Their crowning splendor has become as fading wreaths
on the heads of the opulent overcome with wine.
Chapters 28-31, which form a didactic unit comprising Part VI of Isaiah’s Seven-Part Structure (Isaiah 28-31; 55-59), each commence with a “woe” or covenant curse. Ephraim’s chief sins of pride and drunkenness catch up with Israel’s birthright tribe in Jehovah’s Day of Judgment. Instead of acknowledging current inconvenient truths, the people of Ephraim look back on past glories earned in more righteous times as if they still apply today. Ephraim’s self-deception, stemming from intoxication with “wine” at the highest levels, compounds the hard times that lie ahead (v 7; Isaiah 56:10-12).
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