Church and Facemasks

[4Joshua8]

This is literally what Asia has been doing for centuries anytime there is a respiratory outbreak or even a higher incidence of allergies.

They are used to it. Two years ago one of my Japanese students would ask why Americans don't mask up in the winter, and I responded that most, myself included thought of it as a ridiculous old wife's fable.

One year later that same student came back and asked me what I thought about the masks now. I responded to him that I no longer believed that the masks were a result of an old wife's fable...as well as seeing the benefit of my not having my usual seasonal allergies thanks to the mask, nor respiratory illnesses.

And no, masks are not Communistic. What might appear to be sick and evil based off of delirious interpretations, might appear to be life preserving in other nations.

Yes, we should compare ourselves to communist countries. Bravo.

You realize they are “used to it” because they’ve never been given an alternative right?

In the winter, take vitamin D3 and you’ll be much better off than restriction your airflow and trapping bacteria on your face.

The last time I checked Japan, Taiwan, and South Korea are not communistic, and in fact in Taiwan's case they are rated by the Heritage Foundation as being freer than the United States.

Free but they don’t know the power that their own bodies have against viruses.

You should read all of TrueFaith’s responses, your links have been debunked. They aren’t effective, therefore if you are being asked to wear them it is for some other intent. Not about “savings lives.”

Here's another one. Don't know if it was posted yet.

"Stanford Study Results: Facemasks are Ineffective to Block Transmission of COVID-19 and Actually Can Cause Health Deterioration and Premature Death"

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/0 ... ure-death/

EDIT: nevermind...someone already posted this study earlier today, and I already linked to the NCBI...this is just an article about it...

[samizdat]

Those that fail at the basic commandments of the Lord and yet want to enter His Holy House take the name of the Lord in vain...

It really is that simple.

Those that choose to enter without a mask on, where a mask is required, are breaking those basic commandments.

Oh, so wearing a mask is a commandment now? Where did I miss that?

The part where you are supposed to have love and charity for your fellow man...one of the two greatest commandments.

Pretty easy to see in Scripture.

Not only in our own religion but in those of other religions.

About the only ones that don't understand are rock ribbed conservatives from the USA.

It is not charitable, nor loving to perpetuate the lie that masks will stop the transmission of SARS-CoV-2 between people who are at least, asymptomatic, or at most, not hacking, coughing and sneezing over everybody near them. The real lack of charity is coming from the latter group or those who are knowingly sick in any way, and still go out and mingle with those who are not sick.

If you are on a bus, yes, mask up if you are concerned; because you have no control over those in your crowded space. You might at least stop your intake of someones sneeze/cough water particles. And if you are a care giver working with a COVID-rich environment, ramp up your prophylactic intake of Ivermectin and/or Hydroxychloroquine+ 5-8K Int. Units of Vitamin D3+Zinc Sulfate and preferably Azithromycin.

But to insist and force EVERYBODY, regardless of condition, to wear masks, do social distancing, stay at home, close down businesses and church congregations, stop schools, and make school children mask up if they are allowed to go to school (almost zero incidents of disease among this group) is not only the height of stupidity but also very tyrannical, where if persisted in, can destroy your whole economy and then society.

Has little to do w/being a "rock-ribbed US conservative". Has more to do w/common sense as well as your sense of liberty and justice . . . . . which many people who came to the US, did so because they were seeking an environment where these values were highly valued . . . . . but is also present among a high percentage of the world's population.

Once, again, here is a well-known Canadian's attitude toward this issue:

JordanPeterson - freedom meme.png

This is a very dangerous opinion and antithetical to the progress of civilization.

As well as arrogant. No one can have freedom without responsibility. What the antimaskers reveal about themselves is just that. Freedom without responsibility.

[Gadianton Slayer]

Oh, so wearing a mask is a commandment now? Where did I miss that?

The part where you are supposed to have love and charity for your fellow man...one of the two greatest commandments.

Pretty easy to see in Scripture.

Not only in our own religion but in those of other religions.

About the only ones that don't understand are rock ribbed conservatives from the USA.

It is not charitable, nor loving to perpetuate the lie that masks will stop the transmission of SARS-CoV-2 between people who are at least, asymptomatic, or at most, not hacking, coughing and sneezing over everybody near them. The real lack of charity is coming from the latter group or those who are knowingly sick in any way, and still go out and mingle with those who are not sick.

If you are on a bus, yes, mask up if you are concerned; because you have no control over those in your crowded space. You might at least stop your intake of someones sneeze/cough water particles. And if you are a care giver working with a COVID-rich environment, ramp up your prophylactic intake of Ivermectin and/or Hydroxychloroquine+ 5-8K Int. Units of Vitamin D3+Zinc Sulfate and preferably Azithromycin.

But to insist and force EVERYBODY, regardless of condition, to wear masks, do social distancing, stay at home, close down businesses and church congregations, stop schools, and make school children mask up if they are allowed to go to school (almost zero incidents of disease among this group) is not only the height of stupidity but also very tyrannical, where if persisted in, can destroy your whole economy and then society.

Has little to do w/being a "rock-ribbed US conservative". Has more to do w/common sense as well as your sense of liberty and justice . . . . . which many people who came to the US, did so because they were seeking an environment where these values were highly valued . . . . . but is also present among a high percentage of the world's population.

Once, again, here is a well-known Canadian's attitude toward this issue:

JordanPeterson - freedom meme.png

This is a very dangerous opinion and antithetical to the progress of civilization.

As well as arrogant. No one can have freedom without responsibility. What the antimaskers reveal about themselves is just that. Freedom without responsibility.

Goodness, your statement is only true if you disregard everything else we’ve mentioned. Which apparently you have.

[InfoWarrior82]

It’s a fun question to ask, because unless you are a caretaker or spouse you can’t accurately answer. You have no access to someone’s health information or what their co-morbidities may have been, and no idea what they actually died of. Many “covid” deaths were not linked to the virus whatsoever, hospitals were paid for cases and deaths related to covid.

Do you believe that the pharmaceutical industry has your best interest in mind? Do you not believe in secret combinations and that people can actually do things with intent to harm?

I believe in secret combinations...they are all around...and yet there are others which people do not see simply because they would never suspect that they could come from teachings that many people on this board would find to be right.

What if disinformation about the wearing of masks became so pervasive to the point where you get a far more lethal pandemic going on around and yet certain areas that did wear their masks and took care of their hygiene were able to withstand the pandemic admirably and yet areas that insisted on rebelling against that, had millions of deaths instead of the slightly over half a million like right now?

It would be convenient to the enemies of the United States and the American nations as a whole to have people in ignorance or worse, in willful rebellion, to spread that disinformation, all the while while those nations suffer less because within those nations they do wear the masks.

That's weird because Florida is doing just fine and they have no more mandates.

Also, look into what counts as a "case".

Also, look into what amplification cycle the PCR tests are set to and why that's important.

It sure would be nice if our "prophets" could get some, uh, revelation from the Lord and not "medical experts".

Florida has 67 counties. 66 of them have more cases accumulated than Taiwan. Florida's population is almost that of Taiwan's.

Sweden had nearly a million accumulated cases. Nearly 1000 times Taiwan's number, with a third of Taiwan's population.

What are PCR test's amplification cycle set to and why is that important?

How is it possible that rapid PCR tests detect covid19 in a can of coke-a-cola?

It's all a hoax.

[Gadianton Slayer]

I believe in secret combinations...they are all around...and yet there are others which people do not see simply because they would never suspect that they could come from teachings that many people on this board would find to be right.

What if disinformation about the wearing of masks became so pervasive to the point where you get a far more lethal pandemic going on around and yet certain areas that did wear their masks and took care of their hygiene were able to withstand the pandemic admirably and yet areas that insisted on rebelling against that, had millions of deaths instead of the slightly over half a million like right now?

It would be convenient to the enemies of the United States and the American nations as a whole to have people in ignorance or worse, in willful rebellion, to spread that disinformation, all the while while those nations suffer less because within those nations they do wear the masks.

That's weird because Florida is doing just fine and they have no more mandates.

Also, look into what counts as a "case".

Also, look into what amplification cycle the PCR tests are set to and why that's important.

It sure would be nice if our "prophets" could get some, uh, revelation from the Lord and not "medical experts".

Florida has 67 counties. 66 of them have more cases accumulated than Taiwan. Florida's population is almost that of Taiwan's.

Sweden had nearly a million accumulated cases. Nearly 1000 times Taiwan's number, with a third of Taiwan's population.

What are PCR test's amplification cycle set to and why is that important?

How is it possible that rapid PCR tests detect covid19 in a can of coke-a-cola?

It's all a hoax.

Cases mean nothing.

I repeat: the numbers can be manipulated to say whatever they want, they are pushing an agenda.

[Elizabeth]

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Here is a fantastic Doctor who posts truth about all this regularly with actual supporting data

https://twitter.com/ColleenHuberNMD

[4Joshua8]

I believe in secret combinations...they are all around...and yet there are others which people do not see simply because they would never suspect that they could come from teachings that many people on this board would find to be right.

What if disinformation about the wearing of masks became so pervasive to the point where you get a far more lethal pandemic going on around and yet certain areas that did wear their masks and took care of their hygiene were able to withstand the pandemic admirably and yet areas that insisted on rebelling against that, had millions of deaths instead of the slightly over half a million like right now?

It would be convenient to the enemies of the United States and the American nations as a whole to have people in ignorance or worse, in willful rebellion, to spread that disinformation, all the while while those nations suffer less because within those nations they do wear the masks.

That's weird because Florida is doing just fine and they have no more mandates.

Also, look into what counts as a "case".

Also, look into what amplification cycle the PCR tests are set to and why that's important.

It sure would be nice if our "prophets" could get some, uh, revelation from the Lord and not "medical experts".

Florida has 67 counties. 66 of them have more cases accumulated than Taiwan. Florida's population is almost that of Taiwan's.

Sweden had nearly a million accumulated cases. Nearly 1000 times Taiwan's number, with a third of Taiwan's population.

What are PCR test's amplification cycle set to and why is that important?

How is it possible that rapid PCR tests detect covid19 in a can of coke-a-cola?

It's all a hoax.

Check this out:
https://greatreject.org/laboratories-ca ... ive-tests/

I want to verify whether this is true or not. The source for this (at the bottom) leads to a foreign-language website (Google Translate says Dutch), and I haven't been able to find out of this is legit or not yet.

[InfoWarrior82]

Account suspended
Twitter suspends accounts which violate the Twitter Rules...

Here is a fantastic Doctor who posts truth about all this regularly with actual supporting data

https://twitter.com/ColleenHuberNMD

When anyone questions the global overlords decree on "science", they are immediately shut down.

[InfoWarrior82]

That's weird because Florida is doing just fine and they have no more mandates.

Also, look into what counts as a "case".

Also, look into what amplification cycle the PCR tests are set to and why that's important.

It sure would be nice if our "prophets" could get some, uh, revelation from the Lord and not "medical experts".

Florida has 67 counties. 66 of them have more cases accumulated than Taiwan. Florida's population is almost that of Taiwan's.

Sweden had nearly a million accumulated cases. Nearly 1000 times Taiwan's number, with a third of Taiwan's population.

What are PCR test's amplification cycle set to and why is that important?

How is it possible that rapid PCR tests detect covid19 in a can of coke-a-cola?

It's all a hoax.

Check this out:
https://greatreject.org/laboratories-ca ... ive-tests/

I want to verify whether this is true or not. The source for this (at the bottom) leads to a foreign-language website (Google Translate says Dutch), and I haven't been able to find out of this is legit or not yet.

That's correct. The CDC has not isolated the virus. They admit this, but not openly... for obvious reasons. In fact, no one has been able to. No One.

[larsenb]

. . . . . It is not charitable, nor loving to perpetuate the lie that masks will stop the transmission of SARS-CoV-2 between people who are at least, asymptomatic, or at most, not hacking, coughing and sneezing over everybody near them. The real lack of charity is coming from the latter group or those who are knowingly sick in any way, and still go out and mingle with those who are not sick.

If you are on a bus, yes, mask up if you are concerned; because you have no control over those in your crowded space. You might at least stop your intake of someones sneeze/cough water particles. And if you are a care giver working with a COVID-rich environment, ramp up your prophylactic intake of Ivermectin and/or Hydroxychloroquine+ 5-8K Int. Units of Vitamin D3+Zinc Sulfate and preferably Azithromycin.

But to insist and force EVERYBODY, regardless of condition, to wear masks, do social distancing, stay at home, close down businesses and church congregations, stop schools, and make school children mask up if they are allowed to go to school (almost zero incidents of disease among this group) is not only the height of stupidity but also very tyrannical, where if persisted in, can destroy your whole economy and then society.

Has little to do w/being a "rock-ribbed US conservative". Has more to do w/common sense as well as your sense of liberty and justice . . . . . which many people who came to the US, did so because they were seeking an environment where these values were highly valued . . . . . but is also present among a high percentage of the world's population.

This is a very dangerous opinion and antithetical to the progress of civilization.

As well as arrogant. No one can have freedom without responsibility. What the antimaskers reveal about themselves is just that. Freedom without responsibility.

I just outlined the type of behavior necessary to allow most people to forego masks, social distancing and shutting down schools, businesses and churches, etc., etc., and in a very responsible way. You must have missed that.

And what I outlined is especially true in view of the very, very low morbidity of the COVID virus, or even debilitating symptoms, suffered by any significant number of people outside of those with co-morbidity issues.

Jordan was addressing that.

And if a situation really existed that was resulting in a significant death rate or debilitating illness among a broad age-range of people, any restrictive measures should only be put in place by voice of the people through their legislatures. Period full stop.

[David13]

Oh, so wearing a mask is a commandment now? Where did I miss that?

The part where you are supposed to have love and charity for your fellow man...one of the two greatest commandments.

Pretty easy to see in Scripture.

Not only in our own religion but in those of other religions.

About the only ones that don't understand are rock ribbed conservatives from the USA.

It is not charitable, nor loving to perpetuate the lie that masks will stop the transmission of SARS-CoV-2 between people who are at least, asymptomatic, or at most, not hacking, coughing and sneezing over everybody near them. The real lack of charity is coming from the latter group or those who are knowingly sick in any way, and still go out and mingle with those who are not sick.

If you are on a bus, yes, mask up if you are concerned; because you have no control over those in your crowded space. You might at least stop your intake of someones sneeze/cough water particles. And if you are a care giver working with a COVID-rich environment, ramp up your prophylactic intake of Ivermectin and/or Hydroxychloroquine+ 5-8K Int. Units of Vitamin D3+Zinc Sulfate and preferably Azithromycin.

But to insist and force EVERYBODY, regardless of condition, to wear masks, do social distancing, stay at home, close down businesses and church congregations, stop schools, and make school children mask up if they are allowed to go to school (almost zero incidents of disease among this group) is not only the height of stupidity but also very tyrannical, where if persisted in, can destroy your whole economy and then society.

Has little to do w/being a "rock-ribbed US conservative". Has more to do w/common sense as well as your sense of liberty and justice . . . . . which many people who came to the US, did so because they were seeking an environment where these values were highly valued . . . . . but is also present among a high percentage of the world's population.

Once, again, here is a well-known Canadian's attitude toward this issue:

JordanPeterson - freedom meme.png

This is a very dangerous opinion and antithetical to the progress of civilization.

As well as arrogant. No one can have freedom without responsibility. What the antimaskers reveal about themselves is just that. Freedom without responsibility.

Wrong again Charley.

You are responsible for your health. NOT anyone else.
dc

What's happening here is YOU refuse to take responsibility for your own health. You want to dump your responsibility on someone else. Foolish, misguided, and dysfunctional.

[samizdat]

The part where you are supposed to have love and charity for your fellow man...one of the two greatest commandments.

Pretty easy to see in Scripture.

Not only in our own religion but in those of other religions.

About the only ones that don't understand are rock ribbed conservatives from the USA.

It is not charitable, nor loving to perpetuate the lie that masks will stop the transmission of SARS-CoV-2 between people who are at least, asymptomatic, or at most, not hacking, coughing and sneezing over everybody near them. The real lack of charity is coming from the latter group or those who are knowingly sick in any way, and still go out and mingle with those who are not sick.

If you are on a bus, yes, mask up if you are concerned; because you have no control over those in your crowded space. You might at least stop your intake of someones sneeze/cough water particles. And if you are a care giver working with a COVID-rich environment, ramp up your prophylactic intake of Ivermectin and/or Hydroxychloroquine+ 5-8K Int. Units of Vitamin D3+Zinc Sulfate and preferably Azithromycin.

But to insist and force EVERYBODY, regardless of condition, to wear masks, do social distancing, stay at home, close down businesses and church congregations, stop schools, and make school children mask up if they are allowed to go to school (almost zero incidents of disease among this group) is not only the height of stupidity but also very tyrannical, where if persisted in, can destroy your whole economy and then society.

Has little to do w/being a "rock-ribbed US conservative". Has more to do w/common sense as well as your sense of liberty and justice . . . . . which many people who came to the US, did so because they were seeking an environment where these values were highly valued . . . . . but is also present among a high percentage of the world's population.

Once, again, here is a well-known Canadian's attitude toward this issue:

JordanPeterson - freedom meme.png

This is a very dangerous opinion and antithetical to the progress of civilization.

As well as arrogant. No one can have freedom without responsibility. What the antimaskers reveal about themselves is just that. Freedom without responsibility.

Wrong again Charley.

You are responsible for your health. NOT anyone else.
dc

What's happening here is YOU refuse to take responsibility for your own health. You want to dump your responsibility on someone else. Foolish, misguided, and dysfunctional.

Public health is a societal responsibility too, not just an individual one.

[Gadianton Slayer]

It is not charitable, nor loving to perpetuate the lie that masks will stop the transmission of SARS-CoV-2 between people who are at least, asymptomatic, or at most, not hacking, coughing and sneezing over everybody near them. The real lack of charity is coming from the latter group or those who are knowingly sick in any way, and still go out and mingle with those who are not sick.

If you are on a bus, yes, mask up if you are concerned; because you have no control over those in your crowded space. You might at least stop your intake of someones sneeze/cough water particles. And if you are a care giver working with a COVID-rich environment, ramp up your prophylactic intake of Ivermectin and/or Hydroxychloroquine+ 5-8K Int. Units of Vitamin D3+Zinc Sulfate and preferably Azithromycin.

But to insist and force EVERYBODY, regardless of condition, to wear masks, do social distancing, stay at home, close down businesses and church congregations, stop schools, and make school children mask up if they are allowed to go to school (almost zero incidents of disease among this group) is not only the height of stupidity but also very tyrannical, where if persisted in, can destroy your whole economy and then society.

Has little to do w/being a "rock-ribbed US conservative". Has more to do w/common sense as well as your sense of liberty and justice . . . . . which many people who came to the US, did so because they were seeking an environment where these values were highly valued . . . . . but is also present among a high percentage of the world's population.

Once, again, here is a well-known Canadian's attitude toward this issue:

JordanPeterson - freedom meme.png

This is a very dangerous opinion and antithetical to the progress of civilization.

As well as arrogant. No one can have freedom without responsibility. What the antimaskers reveal about themselves is just that. Freedom without responsibility.

Wrong again Charley.

You are responsible for your health. NOT anyone else.
dc

What's happening here is YOU refuse to take responsibility for your own health. You want to dump your responsibility on someone else. Foolish, misguided, and dysfunctional.

Public health is a societal responsibility too, not just an individual one.

Public health is better off without masks and experimental injections.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl ... k9fLoTo2Q8

[samizdat]

The part where you are supposed to have love and charity for your fellow man...one of the two greatest commandments.

Pretty easy to see in Scripture.

Not only in our own religion but in those of other religions.

About the only ones that don't understand are rock ribbed conservatives from the USA.

It is not charitable, nor loving to perpetuate the lie that masks will stop the transmission of SARS-CoV-2 between people who are at least, asymptomatic, or at most, not hacking, coughing and sneezing over everybody near them. The real lack of charity is coming from the latter group or those who are knowingly sick in any way, and still go out and mingle with those who are not sick.

If you are on a bus, yes, mask up if you are concerned; because you have no control over those in your crowded space. You might at least stop your intake of someones sneeze/cough water particles. And if you are a care giver working with a COVID-rich environment, ramp up your prophylactic intake of Ivermectin and/or Hydroxychloroquine+ 5-8K Int. Units of Vitamin D3+Zinc Sulfate and preferably Azithromycin.

But to insist and force EVERYBODY, regardless of condition, to wear masks, do social distancing, stay at home, close down businesses and church congregations, stop schools, and make school children mask up if they are allowed to go to school (almost zero incidents of disease among this group) is not only the height of stupidity but also very tyrannical, where if persisted in, can destroy your whole economy and then society.

Has little to do w/being a "rock-ribbed US conservative". Has more to do w/common sense as well as your sense of liberty and justice . . . . . which many people who came to the US, did so because they were seeking an environment where these values were highly valued . . . . . but is also present among a high percentage of the world's population.

Once, again, here is a well-known Canadian's attitude toward this issue:

JordanPeterson - freedom meme.png

This is a very dangerous opinion and antithetical to the progress of civilization.

As well as arrogant. No one can have freedom without responsibility. What the antimaskers reveal about themselves is just that. Freedom without responsibility.

Wrong again Charley.

You are responsible for your health. NOT anyone else.
dc

What's happening here is YOU refuse to take responsibility for your own health. You want to dump your responsibility on someone else. Foolish, misguided, and dysfunctional.

American conservative health care: Don't get sick. If you do, and you can't afford treatment, die quickly.

Can't imagine anything less charitable than that.

[marc]

It is not charitable, nor loving to perpetuate the lie that masks will stop the transmission of SARS-CoV-2 between people who are at least, asymptomatic, or at most, not hacking, coughing and sneezing over everybody near them. The real lack of charity is coming from the latter group or those who are knowingly sick in any way, and still go out and mingle with those who are not sick.

If you are on a bus, yes, mask up if you are concerned; because you have no control over those in your crowded space. You might at least stop your intake of someones sneeze/cough water particles. And if you are a care giver working with a COVID-rich environment, ramp up your prophylactic intake of Ivermectin and/or Hydroxychloroquine+ 5-8K Int. Units of Vitamin D3+Zinc Sulfate and preferably Azithromycin.

But to insist and force EVERYBODY, regardless of condition, to wear masks, do social distancing, stay at home, close down businesses and church congregations, stop schools, and make school children mask up if they are allowed to go to school (almost zero incidents of disease among this group) is not only the height of stupidity but also very tyrannical, where if persisted in, can destroy your whole economy and then society.

Has little to do w/being a "rock-ribbed US conservative". Has more to do w/common sense as well as your sense of liberty and justice . . . . . which many people who came to the US, did so because they were seeking an environment where these values were highly valued . . . . . but is also present among a high percentage of the world's population.

Once, again, here is a well-known Canadian's attitude toward this issue:

JordanPeterson - freedom meme.png

This is a very dangerous opinion and antithetical to the progress of civilization.

As well as arrogant. No one can have freedom without responsibility. What the antimaskers reveal about themselves is just that. Freedom without responsibility.

Wrong again Charley.

You are responsible for your health. NOT anyone else.
dc

What's happening here is YOU refuse to take responsibility for your own health. You want to dump your responsibility on someone else. Foolish, misguided, and dysfunctional.

American conservative health care: Don't get sick. If you do, and you can't afford treatment, die quickly.

Can't imagine anything less charitable than that.

I can. Lying and manipulating science and people for power and profit.

[samizdat]

This is a very dangerous opinion and antithetical to the progress of civilization.

As well as arrogant. No one can have freedom without responsibility. What the antimaskers reveal about themselves is just that. Freedom without responsibility.

Wrong again Charley.

You are responsible for your health. NOT anyone else.
dc

What's happening here is YOU refuse to take responsibility for your own health. You want to dump your responsibility on someone else. Foolish, misguided, and dysfunctional.

American conservative health care: Don't get sick. If you do, and you can't afford treatment, die quickly.

Can't imagine anything less charitable than that.

I can. Lying and manipulating science and people for power and profit.

What is there to lie or manipulate? The proof is in the pudding. Perhaps it is Western science that is manipulating the proven things which the Asians have done that have gotten a handle on the Coronavirus. You know, trying to identify one root cause out of a complex picture and pressing the #masksdontwork button over and over and over again.

[Gadianton Slayer]

Wrong again Charley.

You are responsible for your health. NOT anyone else.
dc

What's happening here is YOU refuse to take responsibility for your own health. You want to dump your responsibility on someone else. Foolish, misguided, and dysfunctional.

American conservative health care: Don't get sick. If you do, and you can't afford treatment, die quickly.

Can't imagine anything less charitable than that.

I can. Lying and manipulating science and people for power and profit.

What is there to lie or manipulate? The proof is in the pudding. Perhaps it is Western science that is manipulating the proven things which the Asians have done that have gotten a handle on the Coronavirus. You know, trying to identify one root cause out of a complex picture and pressing the #masksdontwork button over and over and over again.

You’ve still shown no proof of mask effectiveness against viral transmission, your articles were false. Mentioning other countries is not evidence either because there are more factors involved than simply putting a diaper on your face.

[Lemarque]

“Never explain yourself to the foolish if it can be avoided. They will perceive you as back-pedaling, and themselves as victorious, in an interaction that you never asked for.” -Michael Malice

"Explaining yourself to someone who misunderstands you often only has the effect of bringing a sloppy thinker closer to your orbit. All cost, no benefit." -Michael Malice

[Thinker]

What is there to lie or manipulate? The proof is in the pudding. Perhaps it is Western science that is manipulating the proven things which the Asians have done that have gotten a handle on the Coronavirus. You know, trying to identify one root cause out of a complex picture and pressing the #masksdontwork button over and over and over again.

Of course perceptions are being manipulated. PSY OPS is directed toward us.



COVID-19: Further Evidence that the Virus Originated in the US
”Japanese and Taiwanese epidemiologists and pharmacologists have determined that the new coronavirus could have originated in the US since that country is the only one known to have all five types – from which all others must have descended. Wuhan in China has only one of those types, rendering it in analogy as a kind of “branch” which cannot exist by itself but must have grown from a “tree”...

It would seem the only possibility for origination would be the US because only that country has the “tree trunk” of all the varieties. And it may therefore be true that the original source of the COVID-19 virus was the US military bio-warfare lab at Fort Detrick. This would not be a surprise, given that the CDC completely shut down Fort Detrick, but also because, as I related in an earlier article, between 2005 and 2012 the US had experienced 1,059 events where pathogens had been either stolen or escaped from American bio-labs during the prior ten years.“
https://www.globalresearch.ca/covid-19- ... us/5706078

Timeline explained us cases before August 2019 when ft dedrick (MD) closed. Military games October 2019
https://www.msn.com/en-za/news/other/ch ... r-BB118iKH

It’s painfully obvious this was planned. And like 9-11, the US orchestrated it to frame another - this time China - to justify anti-constitutional greedy grabs. Gates said we needed a military games practice pandemic & in 2014 applied for patent of coronavirus- approved 2018. October 2019 was pandemic practice workshop “event 201” in NYC. WHAT MORE DO YOU NEED TO REALIZE SUCH EVIL FOR WHAT IT IS???

I was diagnosed with autoimmune disorder & yet I had covid & am fine. It was like the flu except without smell. This covid paranoia is part of PSY OPS to scare people into complying with what they normally wouldn’t.



Regarding masks... if you can breath in & out, then respiratory virus particles can also go in & out. Masks harm more than help.

[Gadianton Slayer]

What is there to lie or manipulate? The proof is in the pudding. Perhaps it is Western science that is manipulating the proven things which the Asians have done that have gotten a handle on the Coronavirus. You know, trying to identify one root cause out of a complex picture and pressing the #masksdontwork button over and over and over again.

Of course perceptions are being manipulated. PSY OPS is directed toward us.

COVID-19: Further Evidence that the Virus Originated in the US
”Japanese and Taiwanese epidemiologists and pharmacologists have determined that the new coronavirus could have originated in the US since that country is the only one known to have all five types – from which all others must have descended. Wuhan in China has only one of those types, rendering it in analogy as a kind of “branch” which cannot exist by itself but must have grown from a “tree”...

It would seem the only possibility for origination would be the US because only that country has the “tree trunk” of all the varieties. And it may therefore be true that the original source of the COVID-19 virus was the US military bio-warfare lab at Fort Detrick. This would not be a surprise, given that the CDC completely shut down Fort Detrick, but also because, as I related in an earlier article, between 2005 and 2012 the US had experienced 1,059 events where pathogens had been either stolen or escaped from American bio-labs during the prior ten years.“
https://www.globalresearch.ca/covid-19- ... us/5706078

Timeline explained us cases before August 2019 when ft dedrick (MD) closed. Military games October 2019
https://www.msn.com/en-za/news/other/ch ... r-BB118iKH

I was diagnosed with autoimmune disorder & yet I had covid & am fine. It was like the flu except without smell. This covid paranoia is part of PSY OPS to scare people into complying with what they normally wouldn’t.



Regarding masks... if you can breath in & out, then respiratory virus particles can also go in & out. Masks harm more than help.

And even IF masks worked, why are we attempting to prevent the virus at all? Exposure is inevitable, so we prepare. Not by taking nasty shots but by eating healthy, exercising, and keeping up on vitamins.

But nah, let’s close gyms and small businesses, and keep everyone inside away from the sun.

[Thinker]

And even IF masks worked, why are we attempting to prevent the virus at all? Exposure is inevitable, so we prepare. Not by taking nasty shots but by eating healthy, exercising, and keeping up on vitamins.

But nah, let’s close gyms and small businesses, and keep everyone inside away from the sun.

Yeah, no vaccine can come close to the Intelligent Design of our inherent immune systems!! All we need to do is take care of ourselves & as you suggested, vitamin D was shown to help combat covid.

Doctors & others have explained how herd immunity works & how all the social distancing/masks etc are preventing it. Someone compared it to cars with good tires (strong immune systems) & cars with bad tires (weak immune systems). Imagine a bunch of tacks are thrown on a major highway. Cars with good tires can handle the brunt of most of the tacks & even take them up... so when the cars with bad tires encounter tacks - there are less of them. But if all cars are held back - then when they are finally released, those with bad tires (weak immunity) may encounter the brunt instead.

I guess it comes down to people trusting in men/the world over God. I understand that some people are born without ideal health - but we don’t make everyone pretend they are like that.

[Gadianton Slayer]

And even IF masks worked, why are we attempting to prevent the virus at all? Exposure is inevitable, so we prepare. Not by taking nasty shots but by eating healthy, exercising, and keeping up on vitamins.

But nah, let’s close gyms and small businesses, and keep everyone inside away from the sun.

Yeah, no vaccine can come close to the Intelligent Design of our inherent immune systems!! All we need to do is take care of ourselves & as you suggested, vitamin D was shown to help combat covid.

Doctors & others have explained how herd immunity works & how all the social distancing/masks etc are preventing it. Someone compared it to cars with good tires (strong immune systems) & cars with bad tires (weak immune systems). Imagine a bunch of tacks are thrown on a major highway. Cars with good tires can handle the brunt of most of the tacks & even take them up... so when the cars with bad tires encounter tacks - there are less of them. But if all cars are held back - then when they are finally released, those with bad care may encounter the brunt instead.

I guess it comes down to people trusting in men/the world over God. I understand that some people are born without ideal health - but we don’t make everyone pretend they are like that.

Yep. I’m a little surprised anyone is still defending masks and lockdowns at this point, it’s been a year.

[larsenb]

It is not charitable, nor loving to perpetuate the lie that masks will stop the transmission of SARS-CoV-2 between people who are at least, asymptomatic, or at most, not hacking, coughing and sneezing over everybody near them. The real lack of charity is coming from the latter group or those who are knowingly sick in any way, and still go out and mingle with those who are not sick.

If you are on a bus, yes, mask up if you are concerned; because you have no control over those in your crowded space. You might at least stop your intake of someones sneeze/cough water particles. And if you are a care giver working with a COVID-rich environment, ramp up your prophylactic intake of Ivermectin and/or Hydroxychloroquine+ 5-8K Int. Units of Vitamin D3+Zinc Sulfate and preferably Azithromycin.

But to insist and force EVERYBODY, regardless of condition, to wear masks, do social distancing, stay at home, close down businesses and church congregations, stop schools, and make school children mask up if they are allowed to go to school (almost zero incidents of disease among this group) is not only the height of stupidity but also very tyrannical, where if persisted in, can destroy your whole economy and then society.

Has little to do w/being a "rock-ribbed US conservative". Has more to do w/common sense as well as your sense of liberty and justice . . . . . which many people who came to the US, did so because they were seeking an environment where these values were highly valued . . . . . but is also present among a high percentage of the world's population.

Once, again, here is a well-known Canadian's attitude toward this issue:

JordanPeterson - freedom meme.png

This is a very dangerous opinion and antithetical to the progress of civilization.

As well as arrogant. No one can have freedom without responsibility. What the antimaskers reveal about themselves is just that. Freedom without responsibility.

Wrong again Charley.

You are responsible for your health. NOT anyone else.
dc

What's happening here is YOU refuse to take responsibility for your own health. You want to dump your responsibility on someone else. Foolish, misguided, and dysfunctional.

Public health is a societal responsibility too, not just an individual one.

RIght. But requirements should have legislative approval . . . . at least in the US; but something comparable in other countries. Any fiat decrees by unelected officials/administrators should be subject to immediate and rigorous review, followed by up or down votes before they even fly.

[larsenb]

It is not charitable, nor loving to perpetuate the lie that masks will stop the transmission of SARS-CoV-2 between people who are at least, asymptomatic, or at most, not hacking, coughing and sneezing over everybody near them. The real lack of charity is coming from the latter group or those who are knowingly sick in any way, and still go out and mingle with those who are not sick.

If you are on a bus, yes, mask up if you are concerned; because you have no control over those in your crowded space. You might at least stop your intake of someones sneeze/cough water particles. And if you are a care giver working with a COVID-rich environment, ramp up your prophylactic intake of Ivermectin and/or Hydroxychloroquine+ 5-8K Int. Units of Vitamin D3+Zinc Sulfate and preferably Azithromycin.

But to insist and force EVERYBODY, regardless of condition, to wear masks, do social distancing, stay at home, close down businesses and church congregations, stop schools, and make school children mask up if they are allowed to go to school (almost zero incidents of disease among this group) is not only the height of stupidity but also very tyrannical, where if persisted in, can destroy your whole economy and then society.

Has little to do w/being a "rock-ribbed US conservative". Has more to do w/common sense as well as your sense of liberty and justice . . . . . which many people who came to the US, did so because they were seeking an environment where these values were highly valued . . . . . but is also present among a high percentage of the world's population.

Once, again, here is a well-known Canadian's attitude toward this issue:

JordanPeterson - freedom meme.png

This is a very dangerous opinion and antithetical to the progress of civilization.

As well as arrogant. No one can have freedom without responsibility. What the antimaskers reveal about themselves is just that. Freedom without responsibility.

Wrong again Charley.

You are responsible for your health. NOT anyone else.
dc

What's happening here is YOU refuse to take responsibility for your own health. You want to dump your responsibility on someone else. Foolish, misguided, and dysfunctional.

American conservative health care: Don't get sick. If you do, and you can't afford treatment, die quickly.

Can't imagine anything less charitable than that.

In America, all you have to currently do, is go to a hospital and 'test' positive for COVID, or complain about COVID-like symptoms, and you will have a hoard of care-givers descend on you without much of a thought about payment.

[InfoWarrior82]

This is a very dangerous opinion and antithetical to the progress of civilization.

As well as arrogant. No one can have freedom without responsibility. What the antimaskers reveal about themselves is just that. Freedom without responsibility.

Wrong again Charley.

You are responsible for your health. NOT anyone else.
dc

What's happening here is YOU refuse to take responsibility for your own health. You want to dump your responsibility on someone else. Foolish, misguided, and dysfunctional.

American conservative health care: Don't get sick. If you do, and you can't afford treatment, die quickly.

Can't imagine anything less charitable than that.

In America, all you have to currently do, is go to a hospital and 'test' positive for COVID, or complain about COVID-like symptoms, and you will have a hoard of care-givers descend on you without much of a thought about payment.

American healthcare is broken because of creeping socialism and corporatism. Back in the day when there was less socialism here, healthcare was cheap and affordable.... along with everything else.