Provo protesters - bad combo of ignorance and malevolence

[nvr]

Seems a little hypocritical to claim being peaceful, but then block intersections and shoot drivers as they slow down to try to pass. Could have been just one bad seed in the group.

https://twitter.com/NiasDiad/status/1277866178048700416
As some noted, with this, the law should come down hard for blocking roads, or people will be justified in not slowing down at all.

https://kutv.com/news/local/police-shot ... o-protests

... a white SUV was pulling into the right turn lane in an attempt to turn onto Center Street when several protesters began crowding the vehicle.

Police said a male protester ran to the passenger side of the SUV, pointed a handgun at the driver and shot one round through the window. The driver was struck by the bullet and fled the scene.

The gunman shot a second round that went through the rear passenger window, according to video obtained by police.

The same protester later approached another vehicle at 500 N. University Avenue and broke the window with the handgun, police stated in a Facebook post.

[Chip]

How about a roof mounted 360-degree flamethrower that is activated by a pull-cord inside the vehicle? In a BLM traffic emergency, simply pull the cord to release an umbrella of burning napalm that will distract protesters as it burns away their placards and epidermis, giving you an opportunity to step on the gas without fear of further detainment.

Maybe also some swirling trucker chains that protrude from the sides, front and back, like a military-grade weed-eater. Bye-bye, ankles and then any other body part.

[Lizzy60]

Seems a little hypocritical to claim being peaceful, but then block intersections and shoot drivers as they slow down to try to pass. Could have been just one bad seed in the group.

https://twitter.com/NiasDiad/status/1277866178048700416
As some noted, with this, the law should come down hard for blocking roads, or people will be justified in not slowing down at all.

https://kutv.com/news/local/police-shot ... o-protests

... a white SUV was pulling into the right turn lane in an attempt to turn onto Center Street when several protesters began crowding the vehicle.

Police said a male protester ran to the passenger side of the SUV, pointed a handgun at the driver and shot one round through the window. The driver was struck by the bullet and fled the scene.

The gunman shot a second round that went through the rear passenger window, according to video obtained by police.

The same protester later approached another vehicle at 500 N. University Avenue and broke the window with the handgun, police stated in a Facebook post.

This is more than just one bad seed. Videos show protestors climbing on other cars, and there were two shooters who fired at the white SUV.

[nvr]

How about a roof mounted 360-degree flamethrower that is activated by a pull-cord inside the vehicle? In a BLM traffic emergency, simply pull the cord to release an umbrella of burning napalm that will distract protesters as it burns away their placards and epidermis, giving you an opportunity to step on the gas without fear of further detainment.

Maybe also some swirling trucker chains that protrude from the sides, front and back, like a military-grade weed-eater. Bye-bye, ankles and then any other body part.

Well that would certainly escalate things.

I understand the anger about police abuse of power. It was a bad idea for protesters to block roads. The crowd shares a significant part of the blame for this. Blocking roads like this is dangerous and should be unlawful.

It is just nuts to have it turn to gunning down passers-by. If I didn't already know about cases of corrupt police infiltrating protests, I'd dismiss the idea that this could have been a paid provocateur attempting murder to make the movement look bad. Seeing some other videos from California and Colorado, I'm beginning to think some of these random roadway assaults are from actual legitimate numbskulls.

If people find themselves next to one of these fully-masked guys at a protest who pulls a gun or starts torching buildings, get some fellow protesters to help tackle, restrain, demask, and record their faces.

[Serragon]

It isn't just one bad actor in the group.

The moment you decide that you are entitled to violate the rights of others in order to get your way, you have already crossed the line. We are simply talking about scale at this point. It is a small step to killing someone when you have already decided that their rights have no value. At that point, you have already dehumanized them and decided they are beneath you and that they are an impediment to society and would be better off not existing. This person just decided to do what everyone else in the group is already thinking.

Protest is speaking out against something. When people begin violating the rights of others, they are no longer speaking. They are forcing.

We have been letting the progressives get away with this for a long time in this country under the guise of civil disobedience. But civil disobedience is intentionally violating a law that unjustly infringes on your own rights. It is not about violating just laws and other people's rights.

These violent "protests" are not against any law or policy. They are against the very ideas of the founding. They are against the idea of individual liberty and rights. They are not protests, but revolution, and we should be treating them as such. We should not be going out of our way to pretend this is some sort of embodiment of freedom of expression when these people won't allow anyone else the same rights they themselves demand. We shouldn't pretend that violating the rights of others is somehow an exhibition of some time-honored American display of freedom.

[XEmilyX]

Serious question. If they're blocking you and they start shooting are you allowed to run through them with your car to get away?

[EmmaLee]

Serious question. If they're blocking you and they start shooting are you allowed to run through them with your car to get away?

Of course.

[Serragon]

Serious question. If they're blocking you and they start shooting are you allowed to run through them with your car to get away?

Legally, it is ambiguous. Depends on the police and the prosecutor and how they interpret the situation.

Morally, of course you are allowed to flee when someone tries to imprison and murder you.

[Elizabeth]

BLM Rioters Blocking Traffic Surround SUV And Shoot At Driver Trying to Escape

PROVO Jun. 30, 2020

YouTube

Shocking video out of Provo, Utah shows a group of Black Lives Matter rioters blocking traffic and shooting two alleged gun shots at a driver slowly attempting to drive out of harm's way through the violent mob.

SHOCK VIDEO: BLM Rioters Blocking Traffic Surround SUV And Shoot At Driver Trying to Escape

[Alaris]

Don't forget about the brick pallets, the dirty cops, the George Floyd oddities, and the other evidence of coordination and money behind these protests that the media is selling as "organic." This very likely could have been paid inflators... Utah friend said fb friend (I know) got a seriously bad vibe from the crowd as he was present nearby. I don't see Provo as a place for even bad apples to shoot at cars in full public view during daylight with many witnesses. This stinks of Soros.

[Alaris]

Conspiracy thought.... What if the Provo shooting was a message in response to Bednars politically charged talk?

"You're not safe here"

Or

"We can bring this anywhere"

[mahalanobis]

I think this is bait.

Despite how the church acts these days, they know that UT is (in many respects) the most conservative state. I think they want to
1) make conservative utahns on-edge so they start conceal carrying more
2) coax a few bad apples among the right (someone with mental illness) to get paranoid and trigger happy so they can run with a narrative about the evil right-wing in Utah - They might even stage both sides of the conflict.

You can count on the media and the church siding with the left if/when a more serious conflict breaks out. Anything to be mainstream, right?

For those planning this, getting this exact outcome is hard. But my guess is that they've been trying this for years. Remember when Crowder infiltrated BLM protestors undercover in Utah? They had hidden-cam footage in SLC of these people planning to make protests violent. Police did nothing. I'm no Crowder fan, but that was some excellent work... far better investigative work that what the MSM does.

[Elizabeth]

Police have arrested two people on Tuesday in connection with a shooting during a protest in downtown Provo.

Jesse Taggart, a 33-year-old Salt Lake City resident, and Samantha Darling, a 27-year-old from Ogden, were taken into custody at the Utah County Jail, Provo

Taggart was accused of attempted aggravated murder, aggravated assault, rioting and threatening the use of a weapon in a fight, the post states.

On Monday, a man shot the driver of an SUV that sped through a crowd of protesters.

The driver’s wounds were not life-threatening and he was able to drive himself to Utah Valley Hospital, according to police.

Police arrest two people after shooting of man who drove through crowd of protesters in Provo - The Salt Lake Tribune

[JohnnyL]

Police have arrested two people on Tuesday in connection with a shooting during a protest in downtown Provo.

Jesse Taggart, a 33-year-old Salt Lake City resident, and Samantha Darling, a 27-year-old from Ogden, were taken into custody at the Utah County Jail, Provo

Taggart was accused of attempted aggravated murder, aggravated assault, rioting and threatening the use of a weapon in a fight, the post states.

On Monday, a man shot the driver of an SUV that sped through a crowd of protesters.

The driver’s wounds were not life-threatening and he was able to drive himself to Utah Valley Hospital, according to police.

Police arrest two people after shooting of man who drove through crowd of protesters in Provo - The Salt Lake Tribune

Nice trick, SL Tribune. Yup, an SUV just plowed right through peaceful protesters... Of course the person was shot, they were doing something dangerous, right!?

Compare that to this:
"Shocking video out of Provo, Utah shows a group of Black Lives Matter rioters blocking traffic and shooting two alleged gun shots at 's a driver slowly attempting to drive out of harmway through the violent mob."

[Trucker]

Will the church come out with a statement condemning acts of violence in support of BLM? Just wait for someone to say it was a "white nationalist" who shot and then suddenly the newsroom will release a statement that they are very concerned and how violence has no place in political discourse. Until then...we will just pretend nothing happened.

[Matchmaker]

Will the church come out with a statement condemning acts of violence in support of BLM? Just wait for someone to say it was a "white nationalist" who shot and then suddenly the newsroom will release a statement that they are very concerned and how violence has no place in political discourse. Until then...we will just pretend nothing happened.

Is this the group that Mitt Romney supports?

[EmmaLee]

Will the church come out with a statement condemning acts of violence in support of BLM? Just wait for someone to say it was a "white nationalist" who shot and then suddenly the newsroom will release a statement that they are very concerned and how violence has no place in political discourse. Until then...we will just pretend nothing happened.

Is this the group that Mitt Romney supports?

Yes.

[desertstorm]

Will the church come out with a statement condemning acts of violence in support of BLM? Just wait for someone to say it was a "white nationalist" who shot and then suddenly the newsroom will release a statement that they are very concerned and how violence has no place in political discourse. Until then...we will just pretend nothing happened.

Imagine the blowback the church would face in that instance.