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When things go to pot what will the reation be of mobs and how will that effect those who decided to prepare? How will mobs react to us? Will they knock on your door and ask kindly for food? Will you give it to them? Just curious to any thoughts.

will wrote:When things go to pot what will the reation be of mobs and how will that effect those who decided to prepare? How will mobs react to us? Will they knock on your door and ask kindly for food? Will you give it to them? Just curious to any thoughts.

I hope to be prepared in case they don't ask kindly.

I keep quiet. Don't talk about what I have to my neighbours etc. I'm carefu who I talk to in church too. I will also have my bow ready just in case.

For now, I would encourage each of us to make friends with our neighbors. Encourage them to work on a fpreparedness plan but don't tell them what you have. I will willingly share with those in need when the time comes. But if a mob comes, we are armed.

Please refer to M249Gunner's avatar for more information.

Do any of you think you and your family could stand off 20 or more armed men determined to gain access to your stored food? Are you willing to endanger other family members as a mob burns your house down around you and shoots you all as you try to escape the flames? Think back to Waco and Ruby Ridge. Think how you would organize an assault on your own home by men armed with guns and gasoline. If you want to keep your family alive you might as well set up a field kitchen on your front garden or back patio and start serving up meals to neighbors. Then you might have enough people on your side to stand off an assault from other neighborhoods, provided you have extra guns to distribute to your neighbors. Assuming that you still have your guns.

Lundbaek, what you say makes sense. I have pondered how I will handled this when the time comes. I think we will need to group together to be able to defend our homes.

There are 40 houses on both sides of our street, at least 40 on both sides of the streets to the north and south of us, and 8 at the end of these streets. Houses are no more than 30 foot apart. We are the only LDS family on our street, and there are 3 LDS families whose homes we cannot see on the street to the north of us. That's all. The houses are block construction with asphalt shingle roofs. Any of the houses would be quite vulnerable to attack from neighboring properties. I would expect the word of the liklihood of our having stored food would spread, and I would expect to be advised by a group of 20 or more men from the neighborhood that the decision has been made to divide up our food among any number of families. Only my wife and I live here. If we had our kids and their families in with us, that would give us 3 adult men, 2 with battle experience being shot at. Grand kids as young as less than two years at present. We might withstand gunfire for a while, but not firebombing.

Maybe some of you are better situated, better provisioned, and better manned. Still, how long do you think you could hold off 20 of more armed and determined men? None of the 4 LDS families have a remote place to flee to, other than the ward building, which, BTW, is much more defensable

Maybe God will send a plague to lessen the numbers of those who are out and about stealing and robbing. Those who are prepared will be able to stay in their homes until the plague passes. Just a thought.

shadow wrote:Maybe God will send a plague to lessen the numbers of those who are out and about stealing and robbing. Those who are prepared will be able to stay in their homes until the plague passes. Just a thought.

Aren't we promised that our homes will be protected if we are faithful re food storage etc, or did I just make that up? I can't remember where I heard that.

I think the lockdown scenario is a possibility. Curfews, checkpoints etc may prevent people from leaving their homes...

Someone already stole the apples off of our tree last fall. I had bought canning stuff and even a juicer in anticipation of fresh apples. Some people had asked for them for their animals. We had told them no because we wanted to eat them. I think it happened while we were at church.

My head boss had his hay stolen last summer.

People will resort to more desperate actions as the situation worsens, Theft is going to increase at a rapid rate, Much like the Gadianton robbers of old. What did the Nephites and laminites do when the land was over run by robbers? They left. I hope something changes soon. It's getting ugly out there. We are told that the BoM was meant for us in our day. I can see that happening. (leaving)

This has been pointed out here before, but after Noah made all his preps, God sealed him (and his family and their supplies) into the ark and it started to rain. Our food storage has been likened by a prophet to the necessity of the ark for Noah and his family. After it had been raining for a while and the ground was covering with water, who knows if the wicked didn't run over to the ark and bang on it, begging to be let aboard? Whether or not Noah would have obliged, he was shut up into the ark. That was that.

I don't think we've been asked to get food storage together so that a mob can just come and take it. What utility is in that? I believe that if we share it, it will be with the penitent, only. It would make sense if a plague was part of the picture. My gut feeling is that Heavenly Father will unroll events in a way that none of us can anticipate.

Chip wrote: I don't think we've been asked to get food storage together so that a mob can just come and take it. What utility is in that?

I mostly agree but let's not forget that the Lord does sometimes do things that don't initially make sense to us. I'm thinking along the lines of Zion's Camp, the settling of Nauvoo, initial settlement of Independence, MO, etc. A lot was lost during those times when to man it would seem to not make sense to have even embarked on the preparations in the first place...

I like the idea of a plague. Combine that with global crop failures and it might just work. No one dares go outside because of the deadly virus that starts with a headache and ends with a rotting corpse, oozing puss and blood. Those that do venture out find that the store shelves were cleared days ago. There is no food to be found...anywhere. People begin eating corpses...hold on a minute, this is beginning to sound an awful lot like President Taylor's vision of the Last Days.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kwmllaXBE6A