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Our stake has just announced that they are planning to get some more wheat in. Could this be a final drive to get people into food storage?

Hello Kathyn,
Would you mind posting that article you referred to? I am looking for "outside" sources
of information to help in teaching people of the situations.
Thanks,
James

kathyn wrote:Yesterday, I forwarded an article (not relating to our church) that told how bad things are going and how much worse they can get. The last paragraph included the advice to get lots of food put away. I forwarded that article to almost everyone on my email list. Well, a niece of mine who is not LDS posted that article on her Facebook site for everyone to see. I think we may be reaching more individuals than we suppose, sometimes.

I preach food storage and preparation to everyone I see, practically. We took the missionaries to dinner tonight and the one elder, who has only been out a couple of months said that they were told that we're approaching the time when the LDS Church will be pretty much alone in the world and it will be the only place of safety for good people.

I guess I would tell all of you never to give up preaching preparedness to everyone. We don't know who might listen. We may yet be Saviors on Mt. Zion, if I may say so--at least as far as temporal things go.

Would you mind posting that article you referred to? I am looking for "outside" sources
of information to help in teaching people of the situations.
Thanks,

scottja, I am so sorry but I didn't save that article once I had forwarded it. I can't remember exactly where I read it. If I am able to come up with it, I'll be sure to post it.

[quote] scottja, I am so sorry but I didn't save that article once I had forwarded it. I can't remember exactly where I read it. If I am able to come up with it, I'll be sure to post it. [quote]

Dagnabbit, my daughter (ndjili) was using my computer again and forgot to log out.

I guess I would tell all of you never to give up preaching preparedness to everyone. We don't know who might listen. We may yet be Saviors on Mt. Zion, if I may say so--at least as far as temporal things go.

I still know of members who are able to get prepared, yet they still blow it off why is this? Can't they see what is happening?

yet they still blow it off why is this? Can't they see what is happening?

They don't have "eyes to see and ears to hear", I guess. And I'm assuming they're listening to the MSM and they are lulled into thinking that Obama will fix everything, so why worry?

Gman007 wrote:Rumor has it Elder Packer answered in a leadership meeting when asked that specific question - The brethren has said all they are going to say on the subject - For most it is too late!

Kinda funny how BKP has taken the lead on some of this hardtimes stuff lately. I agree with the poster who said preparedness stuff is still there, but it's really gone underground. They used to say it straight-out. Now you have to read between the lines or maybe glean some bits in stake conference.

In '96 Elder Perry said the time to ignore the prophets' warning on preparedness 'was over.' That's 12 years ago. If that was their position then, it's no surprise they aren't saying much now. I feel blessed that despite our poor effort for so long we were able to get it together last year. I'm still coming across things we could use, but if it all ground to a halt tomorrow, we'd be in pretty decent shape.

I believe the focus on food storage and other preparedness items has dimmed because new information is needed at this time. The Lord always seems to give the Prophets what we need way ahead of the time we need it.
With that in mind, the things we are being taught now, are what we need in the near future. Food storage.....the focus of the past............is needed now!
Strengthening our families, unity, faith are what we will need next.

NoGreaterLove wrote:I believe the focus on food storage and other preparedness items has dimmed because new information is needed at this time. The Lord always seems to give the Prophets what we need way ahead of the time we need it.
With that in mind, the things we are being taught now, are what we need in the near future. Food storage.....the focus of the past............is needed now!
Strengthening our families, unity, faith are what we will need next.

Excellent!

I also think that the Church leadership may be keeping discussion of preparedness at a minimum to avoid creating panic and to avoid publicity that would lead certain non-LDSs to act in ways that would endanger the program and those who participoate in it. I think the fewer non-members who know about our preparedness programs the better.

I have warned my Brother and his wife to get food storage a number of times. Even with what all is going on in the world, the last time I said anything, I was told that that was a "Mormon thing." I said, "Well, non-Mormons get hungry too." I was told, "Yeah, but thats a Mormon thing." How blind can a person be?

Believer

believer

I was told, "Yeah, but thats a Mormon thing." How blind can a person be?

Without the gift of the Holy Ghost, they are blind, for the most part. I have two siblings who aren't LDS and I've done everything I can think of to get them putting away extra. It's just not taking. One sister thinks she can't afford it. My brother, who can well afford it, doesn't see the need. But I still keep emailing them articles (mostly non-church but that are showing the grave situation our country's economy is in), anyway, in hopes that something might spark an interest.

It is so frustrating because you know they're going to need it but they won't listen!

lundbaek

I also think that the Church leadership may be keeping discussion of preparedness at a minimum to avoid creating panic and to avoid publicity

I think you're on to something there...especially the publicity angle. We soon may see policy that considers hoarding an illegal activity and of course, they'll show up at our doors first. The less we noise it around now, the better things will go for us. I don't trust our gov't at all, anymore and I see the time coming when a lot of the persecution we face will be sanctioned, if not downright called for by the people in charge.

believer wrote:I have warned my Brother and his wife to get food storage a number of times. Even with what all is going on in the world, the last time I said anything, I was told that that was a "Mormon thing." I said, "Well, non-Mormons get hungry too." I was told, "Yeah, but thats a Mormon thing." How blind can a person be?

Believer

You can forward them a link to last spring's WSJ article about food being a good investment. It's a great hedge against food price inflation. Besides, we're not the only ones doing it, them crazy survivalists are, too.

As far as creating a panic, how would it create a panic to simply say "Get your year's supply," just like they have for 40 years? If they said there will be a great earthquake or war 3 weeks from now, that would get people worked up. Once someone has been told 100 times and refuses to do something, they have a pretty thick resistance to it. They'll just keep snoozing, so I think the GAs simply refuse to subject themselves to the frustration of it all.

Personally, I think it's to a point where people maybe kinda sorta should be on the verge of panic. I was pretty anxious about it a year ago, and I think it was a good thing. I took it seriously and got it done.

The response overall is No PLEASE READ march ensign, IT COVERS IT FULLY.

will wrote:The response overall is No PLEASE READ march ensign, IT COVERS IT FULLY.

Will,

I am unable to find March ensign seeing as we are only shortly through Feb. Do you have a link?

Sorry Shawn, I don't.
read a little on it, I was at my Mother in laws house, She got the Ensign Today Feb 9th!! I have not yet recieved it for myself, I was only there for about 10 minutes. I do not want to misquote anything so I wont. I have a feeling that the Ensign may be going out early this month, For whatever reason, I won't even try to guess, This ensign Focused on Self reliance' Just as the Ten Virgins did. It focused on all aspects of preparation, Physical and Spiritual. Great quotes from Prophets past and Present. Yes The Brethren are very aware of what is happening. Great stuff!

answer to original question; March 2009 Ensign.

The brethren have not stopped talking about preparedness. As our church grows globally there is much to do. We have magazines, websites, local wards and other types of instruction. All of these and more encourage being prepared spiritually and temporally. A relatively short time ago President Monson encouraged all members to get a 3 month supply of food or a short term supply. They (the First Presidency) also encouraged us to steadily accumulate a long term storage supply. The reason stated for this was that many members were intimidated by the idea of accumulating an entire years worth of storage.

It has continuously been taught that having a "Supply" of food is not just a doomsday effort. If we should lose a job, have illness, a natural occurance or accident take place, etc we could have a reserve of food and a financial reserve to fall back on while we get back up on our feet. Our economy and the economy of the world will rise and fall again and again. For many reasons on a day to day basis it is prudent to have a preparation made to avoid unnecessary stress and debt.

For the current words of our leaders about this see: http://www.providentliving.org/channel/ ... -1,00.html

will wrote:The response overall is No PLEASE READ march ensign, IT COVERS IT FULLY.

Yep got it too, it is great! Will you put the question out there and the GA answered you LOL