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Re: 5G: Can Someone Convince Me 5G is Dangerous?

Posted: December 24th, 2020, 10:15 pm
by Toto
(KUTV) — 5G is here and one company is above the rest!

T-Mobile is launching its first 5G hotspot and the industry’s best hotspot plans, all made possible by T-Mobile’s capacity-rich 5G network, which delivers the perfect combination of coverage and speed.
T-Mobile’s hotspot plans are the best in the industry with 100 gigabytes of data for just $50 a month with autopay. The company’s first 5G mobile hotspot also has the ability to connect up to 30 devices.
And it doesn’t stop there. T-Mobile is shifting into overdrive to make those ultra-fast speeds available in more places at an unprecedented pace, lighting up more Ultra Capacity (mid-band) 5G every month bringing this super-fast 5G experience to even more customers. The Un-carrier’s Ultra Capacity 5G technology can bring average download speeds around 300 Megabits per second and peak speeds up to one gigabit per second to 5G phones.
T-Mobile’s 5G network is America’s largest with Extended Range (low-band) 5G that covers 270 million people over 1.4 million square miles.
https://kutv.com/features/fresh-living/ ... 5g-hotspot


OOKLA 5G MAP™
The interactive Ookla 5G Map tracks 5G rollouts in cities across the globe. Updated weekly from verified public sources and Ookla data, you can follow operators' newest 5G networks on @Ookla5GMap.
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How to Find Cell Phone Towers Near You
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Re: 5G: Can Someone Convince Me 5G is Dangerous?

Posted: December 27th, 2020, 8:46 am
by buffalo_girl
One theory regarding the Nashville RV bombing: https://www.wsmv.com/news/fbi-agents-in ... 9fb18.html
But a source close to the federal investigation said that among several different tips and angles, agents are investigating whether or not Warner had paranoia that 5G technology was being used to spy on Americans.

A spokeswoman for the FBI said they could not comment because of the pending investigation.
The explosion was in front of the AT&T building.

More information about AT&T outages: https://www.newschannel5.com/news/at-t- ... hones-down

Re: 5G: Can Someone Convince Me 5G is Dangerous?

Posted: December 28th, 2020, 11:08 am
by Mtnlife
I’m a lurker and have only posted once before. I know nothing about 5g but I can tell you I have had a pacemaker since I was 13 and am now 39... I believe I’ve had 6 or 7 devices. I can tell you most of them, especially in the last 20 yrs or so, have Wi-fi. In fact, they can be checked by the dr from my vice through wi-fi. I don’t know what the tech specifics are etc but they also can be hacked because of it. Personally, if someone wanted to track my every move I’m sure they can. I am unaware of GPS or anything else being in them but they could and not tell you. Personally I prefer living. So all the concern abt wi-fi and 5g doesn’t concern me as much. Living an hour from town with no service in between and no high speed internet I would welcome things to improve that. I know I’m a little different just because I have a pacemaker and never felt any of the concerns anyone has talked abt with wi-fi. I read a book once, I’d have to go back and find the name, but every generation has feared the same things when new technology was introduced - even mass availability of books! They also feared radio, tv and internet- so that’s just my 2 cents.

Re: 5G: Can Someone Convince Me 5G is Dangerous?

Posted: December 28th, 2020, 5:26 pm
by ATB
Interesting links and discussion. From a tracking perspective, the advantage (or disadvantage) is that the nodes are relatively close together, meaning that if you walk a block down the street, that street, with 5G, could have 1-10 nodes that could literally track you from street to street, house to house, etc. Obviously, this would be more common in larger cities (one more reason to not live in one), but the farther out you go, they'd be more spread out. It's a dictators dream!

Re: 5G: Can Someone Convince Me 5G is Dangerous?

Posted: December 28th, 2020, 8:35 pm
by Toto
Mtnlife wrote: December 28th, 2020, 11:08 am I’m a lurker and have only posted once before. I know nothing about 5g but I can tell you I have had a pacemaker since I was 13 and am now 39... I believe I’ve had 6 or 7 devices. I can tell you most of them, especially in the last 20 yrs or so, have Wi-fi. In fact, they can be checked by the dr from my vice through wi-fi. I don’t know what the tech specifics are etc but they also can be hacked because of it. Personally, if someone wanted to track my every move I’m sure they can. I am unaware of GPS or anything else being in them but they could and not tell you. Personally I prefer living. So all the concern abt wi-fi and 5g doesn’t concern me as much. Living an hour from town with no service in between and no high speed internet I would welcome things to improve that. I know I’m a little different just because I have a pacemaker and never felt any of the concerns anyone has talked abt with wi-fi. I read a book once, I’d have to go back and find the name, but every generation has feared the same things when new technology was introduced - even mass availability of books! They also feared radio, tv and internet- so that’s just my 2 cents.
While the technologies these days are amazing, they can be a double edge sword. There are benevolent applications such as your pacemaker among other applications. On the other side of the coin are malevolent applications. While WiFi has some adverse physiological impacts, 5G is another kettle of fish.

Dr. Martin Pall, PhD, and Professor Emeritus of Biochemistry and Basic Medical Sciences at Washington State University said; “Putting in tens of millions of 5G antennae without a single biological test of safety has got to be about the stupidest idea anyone has had in the history of the world.”

In this short video (8:28) by Dr. Thomas Cowen, he refers to the book The Invisible Rainbow by Arthur Firstenberg who chronicles all the steps in the electrification of the earth and how within 6 months there was a new flu pandemic all over the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k90VVhyM8Ss


Now, look what is going on with the supposed Covid-19 virus. In my zip code, T Mobile has been using 5G for some time now. See https://kutv.com/features/fresh-living/ ... 5g-hotspot
As Catherine Austin Fitts pointed out, in October 2020 they would be beta testing 5G and people were going to get sick. On 1/14/20 Verizon wireless announced “It’s here. 5G from America’s most reliable network”.

Can you see a pattern here?

Are people dying from Covid-19, or are they getting sick and dying because they are being poisoned, by 5G? I don’t know for sure, but I am suspicious. They have 6 ways to Sunday of doing us in.

But let’s dive a little deeper down the rabbit hole and look at more of what Catherine Austin Fitts reveals in this from Children’s Health Defense Team:

CHD Article on Big-Picture Look at Current Pandemic Beneficiaries Accepted by Peer-Reviewed Journal

An article by Children's Health Defense on how the pandemic facilitated a financial, tech, biopharmaceutical and military-intelligence push for centralized, technocratic control has been accepted by the International Journal of Vaccine Theory, Practice and Research.

By
Children's Health Defense Team

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defe ... chnocrats/

Big Finance

Assisted by the media, commentators have had an easy time framing the events of 2020 principally as a health crisis. With each passing month, however, those claims wear thinner (Barnett, 2020). In a comprehensive analysis titled The State of Our Currencies, former U.S. Assistant Secretary of Housing Catherine Austin Fitts (2020a) offers a broader and more instructive interpretation. Informed by close attention to financial patterns, Fitts asserts that the “shock doctrine” measures being imposed under cover of Covid-19 are helping lay the train tracks for a new global central banking machine and a technocratic “regulatory and economic model that permits far greater central control.”
Fitts calls attention to G7 central bankers’ August 2019 approval in Jackson Hole, Wyoming of a plan called “Going Direct” (Bartsch et al., 2019) that makes the case for a novel “blurring [of] the lines between government fiscal policy and central bank monetary policy” (Martens & Martens, 2020). Drafted months before Covid-19, the plan — co-branded by the World Economic Forum (n.d.) as “the Great Reset” — evokes the prospect of a serious economic downturn and “unusual circumstances” that could be used to justify “unprecedented” global measures (Bartsch et al., 2019).
Fitts (2020a) postulates that central bankers have both a short-term aim (to extend the existing dollar-based reserve currency system) and an ambitious longer-term goal: to implement a “new global governance and financial transaction system, and gather the power necessary to herd all parties into the new system”. Characterizing these aspirations as nothing short of ending currency as we know it, Fitts suggests that the top-down digital-currency-based model being promoted as a replacement could end up sidelining traditional intermediaries and instead directly furnish populations with something akin to a “credit at the company store”. Spelling out the implications of such a model, Fitts notes that with the help of digital surveillance and a social credit system, the central-bank-controlled “credit” could easily be “adjusted or turned off on an individual basis”. General Manager Agustín Carstens of the Bank for International Settlements (BIS) — the central bank of central banks — recently acknowledged as much, stating that in stark contrast to cash, a Central Bank Digital Currency (CBDC) would give central banks “absolute control” over CBDC use “and the technology to enforce” CBDC rules and regulations (International Monetary Fund, 2020). With a vaccine-injected digital surveillance program in individuals, the CBDC would have dictatorial power at the level of individual buying and selling.
Fitts’ analysis suggests that central bankers began laying the groundwork for the desired global transition well in advance of the coronavirus mayhem. In 2019 alone, G7 finance ministers endorsed a cryptocurrency action plan in July; in August, the G7 central bankers approved “Going Direct”; in September, the U.S. Federal Reserve (“the Fed”) started making hundreds of billions of dollars in loans “direct” to Wall Street trading houses; and in October, the BIS issued a major report on global cryptocurrencies (Bank for International Settlements, 2019; Helms, 2019; Fitts, 2020a; Martens & Martens, 2020). In the middle of the frenzy of central bank activity in October, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation (along with the World Economic Forum and Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security) held the well-publicized “pandemic tabletop exercise” called Event 201, which played out a global coronavirus outbreak scenario strikingly similar to 2020’s actual events (Center for Health Security, n.d.).

AND THEY NEED 5G TO PULL IT ALL OFF.

It has nothing to do with a virus, and nothing to do with being to download 150 movies in a nanosecond.

So from my view, based on just the information above alone, what sense does it make to sacrifice your free agency and eternal progression by blanketing every inch the planet with 5G from an array of satellites when fiber optic cables could accomplish the same purpose without all the eugenics?

And without destroying the Republic.

Of course, that wouldn’t really accomplish their plans for the New World Order. But you pacemaker would still accomplish the same benevolent purpose using a fiber optic cable.

Re: 5G: Can Someone Convince Me 5G is Dangerous?

Posted: December 29th, 2020, 5:26 pm
by Toto
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THE WRONG PANDEMIC

You see them everywhere. Men and women walking down the street, all of them with masks on their faces and cell phones in their hands. People jogging, with masks covering their faces and cell phones in their hands. Mothers wheeling their babies with one hand, holding a cell phone in the other hand, with a mask covering their face.

The world has gone insane.

Back in May, the President of Tanzania announced that a goat, a quail, and a papaya had tested positive for COVID-19. People did not stop eating papayas. But when farmed minks began testing positive, the response has been to kill them all.

After a few minks in the Netherlands tested positive in April, 570,000 minks were slaughtered. Minks started testing positive and being killed in Denmark in June, and on November 4, Denmark announced it would destroy the rest of its 17 million minks. Sanity finally broke out in that country, and the eradication campaign stopped after only 2.5 million minks were slaughtered. But minks have also been killed in Spain, Sweden, Greece, France, and the United States.

Lions, tigers and leopards in zoos have tested positive.

People have been testing their dogs and cats, and lo and behold, some of them have tested positive, and on May 6, the Centers for Disease Control created a webpage titled “What to Do if Your Pet Tests Positive for the Virus that Causes COVID-19.” This is what you are supposed to do: “Isolate the pet from everyone else, including other pets.” “Keep your pet at least 6 feet away from other pets and people.” “If you have a private backyard where your dog can go to the bathroom, do not take them for walks.” But, the CDC warns, “Do not wipe or bathe your pet with... hand sanitizer,” and “Do not try to put a mask on your pet.”

It is becoming obvious that no matter what you test -- minks, lions, dogs, papayas, people, or anything else -- you will get positive results, and that the results mean nothing. Just wait until someone tests a cow. Kill all the cows, and no more meat or dairy products! Vaccinate every pet and farm animal in the world! Do contact tracing for every pet that comes in contact with an infected pet!

We have a pandemic, all right, but it is a pandemic of insanity, not COVID-19. The world -- the entire world, not just a few people or a few countries or a few cultures -- has forgotten what life is. Life is community. It is social contact, touching, breathing, sharing. It is oxygen. People are dying because their masks are making them hypoxic. Cancer cells thrive in the absence of oxygen. If you have cancer, and you wear a mask, you are making your cancer grow. And life is bacteria and viruses. Ninety-nine percent of all bacteria and viruses are beneficial and necessary -- necessary for life, and necessary for evolution. If you disinfect the surface of the earth, you will put an end to life. We did not disinfect the world for smallpox, influenza, measles, or tuberculosis. But we are doing it for “COVID-19.”

And we are blaming every symptom known to man on “COVID-19.” COVID-19 is a respiratory virus, closely related to the common cold. But we have made a caricature of it. Suddenly a coronavirus is a magical piece of RNA, created by Dracula, that will damage your kidneys or your heart or give you a stroke.

There is another, very real pandemic that is out of control: a pandemic of radiation. A pandemic that does cause kidney and heart damage and strokes, in addition to pneumonia. The radiation is produced by cell phones. The cell phones with which mothers are irradiating their babies, and joggers are irradiating their hearts. The cell phones with which 7 billion people are irradiating the birds, insects and flowers around them. The radiation that will kill all 7 billion of us, unless we put an end to it.

TAKE BACK YOUR HEALTH CONFERENCE, JANUARY 23-24, 2021

I will be speaking about these issues at the 2021 Take Back Your Health (TBYH) Conference. This year’s conference, featuring doctors, immunologists, environmental experts, and others, is titled Our Global Microbiome: Understanding Our Relationship with the Viruses, Bacteria and Molds Around Us.












The conference will be held online January 23 and 24. Details and registration information are here: https://conference.tbyhguide.com.







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Re: 5G: Can Someone Convince Me 5G is Dangerous?

Posted: December 29th, 2020, 5:31 pm
by topcat
The Creator wrote: April 1st, 2020, 12:36 pm Every time a new wireless technology is released there are a lot of people claiming it's dangerous.

As far as I can tell, cell phone signals and WiFi have actually been getting safer over the years.

I understand why some people think 5G is more dangerous: Higher band frequencies above 24 GHz reaching up to 72 GHz (as opposed to older technology being 5 GHz or less). Also the reach of the signal is shorter, so more cells (towers) are required - meaning the source of the signal is closer to you as well.

And we know that the military has created weapons that use sound frequencies to disable people (sonic weapons). But the strength of the signal would actually be one of the main factors that determines how dangerous it is. For example, with the sonic weapons, "tests performed on mice show the threshold for both lung and liver damage occurs at about 184 dB." However, it takes a lot of power to get to 184 dB.

For comparison, most wireless routers (WiFi) in a home output at about 250mW (1/4th of a watt), some do get up to about 1W, but those are uncommon.

"Antenna transmission power is anywhere between 250mW (expressed as 24 dBm) for a Small Cell, and 120W for the largest 5G MIMO arrays (which is 50 dBm). A typical 2G, 3G, or 4G antenna has got a transmission power of 20W (43 dBm)."

"A Small Cell is comparable to a WLAN access point, and you can come pretty close. We assume a distance of 10 m and get a path loss of 7.3+37.6=44.9dB. Subtraction of path loss from transmission power gives 24dBm – 45dB = -21dBm, which corresponds to approximately 8 µW. (µW is the 1 millionth part of a Watt)"

"A 5G macro cell antenna will be placed up on a tower or on the roof of a high building. Height above ground is thus some 30 m, and we assume a position in 100 m distance from the antenna. Path loss can be calculated to as =82.5dB. The received power is 50 dBm – 82.5 dB = -32 dBm, which is less than one µW." (source)

Mobile phone comparison: "The phone next to your head is transmitting at a maximum about 200mW (which is 23 dBm). That is at least 10,000 times more than the signal received from the tower. Typical transmission power values of phones are a lot lower, though. The base station at the tower controls the power of the phone. It sets phone transmission power to a level so that all phone signals are received at approximately the same strength. If you are near a tower, your phone will transmit at a minimum level (which is below one milliwatt, again). Only if the reception from the tower is very bad, your phone will be commanded to increase transmission power. It may sound crazy, but: more mobile base stations mean less overall radiation levels.

"The power of phone transmission has gone down since the first generations of mobile communication. In GSM phones were allowed to transmit up to 1.0W (sometimes even 2W)" (source)

So, older cell phones were seemingly more dangerous.

Can anyone add some additional data/evidence of why 5G might be dangerous? Is there something I'm missing regarding this? I would like to be better educated on this topic.
This is a great question. One on my mind too. Have you been convinced by any responses below? I'm gonna read the responses later, but the Covid Emergency Hoax, it has been said, is a cover for the rollout of 5G. If true, it's BRILLIANT strategy. I'd even call it a military strategy. If true, and it MAY be true, we are all in grave danger. You'd think this lie could never be allowed to go unchallenged. I'm glad you're asking the question.

Re: 5G: Can Someone Convince Me 5G is Dangerous?

Posted: December 29th, 2020, 5:43 pm
by Gadget
Most people have had 5G routers in their homes for years. They aren't dead yet so I don't see what the fuss is all about......

Re: 5G: Can Someone Convince Me 5G is Dangerous?

Posted: December 29th, 2020, 5:48 pm
by Gadget
Gadget wrote: December 29th, 2020, 5:43 pm Most people have had 5G routers in their homes for years. They aren't dead yet so I don't see what the fuss is all about......
Also, lots of good info on this thread from others but I want to add incase no one has mentioned it, exposure distance is an exponential reduction and not linear like you would think.

Re: 5G: Can Someone Convince Me 5G is Dangerous?

Posted: December 29th, 2020, 6:07 pm
by creator
Gadget wrote: December 29th, 2020, 5:43 pm Most people have had 5G routers in their homes for years. They aren't dead yet so I don't see what the fuss is all about......
People have had 5GHz WiFi routers in their homes for years. That's different than 5G technology: "The frequency bands for 5G networks come in two sets. Frequency range 1 is from 450 MHz to 6 GHz. Frequency range 2 is from 24.25 GHz to 52.6 GHz."

So 5G, in some cases, goes up into what's called the ultra wideband - which is what people are more concerned about.

For years there have been many people getting sick from exposure to electromagnetic radiation (radio waves). Most people aren't exposed to strong enough signals to harm them, but some are, based on their distance from the source of the signal.

Re: 5G: Can Someone Convince Me 5G is Dangerous?

Posted: December 29th, 2020, 6:24 pm
by creator
topcat wrote: December 29th, 2020, 5:31 pmThis is a great question. One on my mind too. Have you been convinced by any responses below? I'm gonna read the responses later, but the Covid Emergency Hoax, it has been said, is a cover for the rollout of 5G. If true, it's BRILLIANT strategy. I'd even call it a military strategy. If true, and it MAY be true, we are all in grave danger. You'd think this lie could never be allowed to go unchallenged. I'm glad you're asking the question.
I was convinced, after further research, that 5G has the potential to be dangerous, but it's not necessarily dangerous under normal usage. Typically the signal strength won't be strong enough to harm people but I don't think you could rule out the possibility a tower outputting those much higher ultra wideband frequencies could be turned up and focused more on a specific area and could cause harm. But, like others have stated, the typical signal you will be exposed to is very weak. However, with any kind of radio signal tower, the closer you live to the tower the more potential harm it can cause to you.

5G also makes it easier for your daily actions to be more easily tracked. It's intended to make more "smart device" capabilities available in everyday appliances and technology.

"the Covid Emergency Hoax, it has been said, is a cover for the rollout of 5G"

I wouldn't rule that out as a possibility. I know people who have gotten sick (flu) simply from putting a new WiFi router in their home. Some people are more sensitive to radio waves (electromagnetic radiation) and so when a new signal or frequency is introduced into their environment they get sick - usually temporarily, but some people remain sick until they get away from the electromagnetic radiation that is harming them. This fact is well-known.

So, it's very possible that the fake pandemic is a coverup for 5G. It's possible the introduction of thousands of new towers and low orbit satellites - outputting a new frequency and electromagnetic radiation into their environment - has triggered a flu/sickness in many people.

It doesn't necessarily mean that 5G is bad for long-term health either (though it could be) but it's not unreasonable to think it triggered short term sickness in many people.

Re: 5G: Can Someone Convince Me 5G is Dangerous?

Posted: December 29th, 2020, 6:59 pm
by topcat
The Creator wrote: December 29th, 2020, 6:24 pm
topcat wrote: December 29th, 2020, 5:31 pmThis is a great question. One on my mind too. Have you been convinced by any responses below? I'm gonna read the responses later, but the Covid Emergency Hoax, it has been said, is a cover for the rollout of 5G. If true, it's BRILLIANT strategy. I'd even call it a military strategy. If true, and it MAY be true, we are all in grave danger. You'd think this lie could never be allowed to go unchallenged. I'm glad you're asking the question.
I was convinced, after further research, that 5G has the potential to be dangerous, but it's not necessarily dangerous under normal usage. Typically the signal strength won't be strong enough to harm people but I don't think you could rule out the possibility a tower outputting those much higher ultra wideband frequencies could be turned up and focused more on a specific area and could cause harm. But, like others have stated, the typical signal you will be exposed to is very weak. However, with any kind of radio signal tower, the closer you live to the tower the more potential harm it can cause to you.

5G also makes it easier for your daily actions to be more easily tracked. It's intended to make more "smart device" capabilities available in everyday appliances and technology.

"the Covid Emergency Hoax, it has been said, is a cover for the rollout of 5G"

I wouldn't rule that out as a possibility. I know people who have gotten sick (flu) simply from putting a new WiFi router in their home. Some people are more sensitive to radio waves (electromagnetic radiation) and so when a new signal or frequency is introduced into their environment they get sick - usually temporarily, but some people remain sick until they get away from the electromagnetic radiation that is harming them. This fact is well-known.

So, it's very possible that the fake pandemic is a coverup for 5G. It's possible the introduction of thousands of new towers and low orbit satellites - outputting a new frequency and electromagnetic radiation into their environment - has triggered a flu/sickness in many people.

It doesn't necessarily mean that 5G is bad for long-term health either (though it could be) but it's not unreasonable to think it triggered short term sickness in many people.
You said,
So, it's very possible that the fake pandemic is a coverup for 5G. It's possible the introduction of thousands of new towers and low orbit satellites - outputting a new frequency and electromagnetic radiation into their environment - has triggered a flu/sickness in many people.

It doesn't necessarily mean that 5G is bad for long-term health either (though it could be) but it's not unreasonable to think it triggered short term sickness in many people.
I think if companies and governments were going to invest literally tens of BILLIONS of dollars on this technology that would turbo charge the police / surveillance state powers, and yet get people sick which would cause the People to push back against the 1984 police surveillance state, that the Covid Emergency Hoax is a brilliant cover. Plus it also kills another bird in that it paves the way for Big Pharma to make money, and kills another bird by making people sicker and less healthy which drives people into the fascist medical industrial complex.

It is brilliant, pure and simple.

But yet, if it's easily scientifically proven even through a simple demonstration even in a courtroom that certain frequencies harm people, then I don't see how the technology could survive. I really don't.

Even if corrupt judges rule in favor of the Tech giants, if the word got out, then People, like mothers and fathers, and friends or family of the harmed people (like their children) would happily vandalize and destroy the 5G towers near their homes or at their places of business. The towers can be easily reached, and so I'm not convinced the 5G towers are as big a health threat as some people warn that they are. People aren't that stupid and zombie like. I mean, if your child or spouse was dying and you were told, "Get her out of the dangerous frequency, and see if her health improves," and then you do that and she immediately gets better, then that's pretty scientific in my book. The opposite works too. If you put somebody in the path of the alleged killer frequency and they fall down, gasping for air, then that tells you something.

Re: 5G: Can Someone Convince Me 5G is Dangerous?

Posted: December 29th, 2020, 8:28 pm
by creator
topcat wrote: December 29th, 2020, 6:59 pmBut yet, if it's easily scientifically proven even through a simple demonstration even in a courtroom that certain frequencies harm people, then I don't see how the technology could survive. I really don't.
It's just like the many other things governments and corporations get away with (dangerous vaccines, pharmaceuticals, chemicals, tyranny, etc.). The beast system is rigged against us. They silence the minority that are most adversely affected. They are largely immune to punishment from adverse reactions people are afflicted with.

Most countries have laws about how much electromagnetic radiation they tolerate. Some countries are more strict than the U.S. The F.C.C. regulations probably protect us from the most obvious harm but not completely. Like I mentioned, some people are more sensitive and do get sick from signals that most of us can tolerate.
topcat wrote: December 29th, 2020, 6:59 pm...People aren't that stupid and zombie like.
I wouldn't be so sure about that, especially with how many people are on antidepressants and other medications.
topcat wrote: December 29th, 2020, 6:59 pmI mean, if your child or spouse was dying and you were told, "Get her out of the dangerous frequency, and see if her health improves," and then you do that and she immediately gets better, then that's pretty scientific in my book.
From the examples I've heard of it's not that it's killing people (although it could lead to it eventually), but causing frequent headaches/migraines and other chronic sicknesses - and possibly cancer as well.

There are businesses that help people with that exact scenario. It's a real issue for some people. And it's not that difficult to detect what signals you are being exposed to, and the exact signal strength. Some issues you can deal with on your own, but you may have to move to a different location if it's something like nearby power lines or a cell tower that is effecting you.

I tested my own home with an EMF meter. My main takeaway was to keep the WiFi router at least 10 feet away from where people are sitting. Once you're about 6 feet from a WiFi router the signal is not very strong. Like Gadget mentioned in a previous comment, "exposure distance is an exponential reduction and not linear". I also keep electronic devices, like phones, further away from me at night. I take my phone out of my pocket when I'm sitting down. The main thing is to maintain a safe distance from strong signals.

Re: 5G: Can Someone Convince Me 5G is Dangerous?

Posted: December 29th, 2020, 9:44 pm
by SPIRIT
just something I copied off the internet some time ago.

5G networks fulfill end time plagues
Leviticus 26:16
then this is what I will do to you: I will bring upon you sudden terror, wasting disease, and fever that will destroy your sight and drain your life. You will sow your seed in vain, because your enemies will eat it.

(http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/artic ... rns-a.html)

'The deployment of 5G, or fifth generation cellular technology, constitutes a massive experiment on the health of all species,' he told Daily Mail Online.

Because MMWs are weaker than microwaves, they are predominantly absorbed by the skin, meaning their distribution is quite focused there,

'Since skin contains capillaries and nerve endings, MMW bio-effects may be transmitted through molecular mechanisms by the skin or through the nervous system,' Dr Moskowitz writes on his blog.

He also told Daily Mail Online that he's concerned that '5G will use high-band frequencies, or millimeter waves, that may affect the eyes, the testes, the skin, the peripheral nervous system, and sweat glands.'

'Millimeter waves can also make some pathogens resistant to antibiotics,' he added.
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Zechariah14:12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
(http://www.healthcareer.net.au/archived ... -skin-deep)
“We know only that this radiation penetrates skin deep,” Professor Leszczynski said at a recent conference.
“We don't have the faintest idea how normal-functioning skin will be affected.”
The Australian Radiation Protection and Nuclear Safety Agency (ARPANSA) wants to know if Australia's current radiation safety standards need to be updated for 5G.
The agency says its research has shown 5G technology can penetrate skin to a depth of 8 millimetres.
“At the frequencies where 5G will be operating, the RF electromagnetic energy does not penetrate much further than the surface of the skin,” ARPANSA assistant director Dr Ken Karipidis said.
“Adverse health effects are not expected, and the current Australian Standard accounts for these.
“Nevertheless, further research in this area is required, particularly on effects on the skin and the eyes.”
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Deuteronomy 28:21
The LORD will make the pestilence cling to you until He has exterminated you from the land you are entering to possess.

Deuteronomy 28:22
The LORD will strike you with wasting disease, with fever and inflammation, with severe heat and drought, with blight and mildew; these will pursue you until you perish.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 3917308143
5G radiofrequency electromagnetic fields (RF-EMF) health effects are ....oxidative stress....cancer onset.... chronic diseases and in vascular homeostasis (slowing of blood in the arteries or veins)....“possible carcinogenic(cancer causer) to humans”.... reproductive, metabolic and neurological effects.....able to alter bacterial antibiotic resistance....biological effects of 5G communication systems are very scarcely investigated.... increase skin temperature, alter gene expression, cellular proliferation and synthesis of proteins....inflammatory and metabolic processes, could generate ocular (eyes) damages, affect neuro-muscular dynamics....cancer risk and to the progressive epidemiological growth of noncommunicable diseases.

Re: 5G: Can Someone Convince Me 5G is Dangerous?

Posted: December 29th, 2020, 9:52 pm
by SPIRIT
also

Why 5 GHz WiFi Routers Are More Dangerous – Get The Facts!

https://www.radiationhealthrisks.com/wh ... dangerous/


5G Wifi RouterAs technology rolls forth our society is gleaming with excitement each time every new gadget comes out faster and more vibrant than the model before. But is everything about faster and more powerful technology a good thing? Most people have no idea how dangerous things like having a WiFi router in your home can be.

5 GHz WiFi routers are more dangerous than the 2.4 GHz units because they are twice the frequency with more intensity than the standard 2.4 GHz models. Also, because the 5 GHz frequency dissipates faster with distance, 5 GHz routers also emit the 2.4 GHz frequency. This is so as you get farther away from the router and the 5 GHz signal weakens, you can still get WiFi (at slower speeds) via the 2.4 GHz signal the router also emits.
So the second reason why a 5 GHz router is more dangerous is because you are being exposed to two frequencies of Radio Frequency (RF) Radiation rather than just one.

Kevin Mottus of the US Brain Tumor Association says that within the RF Radiation part of the electromagnetic spectrum, the higher the frequency, the more dangerous it is to living organisms. The World Health Organization has classified RF Radiation in general as a possible “carcinogen“, meaning “cancer causing”. It can split DNA strands within cells. And cancer rates are around 3 times higher in people with high exposure to this RF Radiation. As the new fifth generation (5G) rolls out, it will only get worse. These devices will operate at between 24 GHz to 90 GHz frequency.
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In the paragraphs above I assume that you already know enough about WiFi Radiation to know the health problems it can cause. However for those who do not in the rest of this article I am first going to talk briefly about why WiFi Radiation (RF Radiation) is dangerous, and then talk about the best ways to still use technology but protect yourself and your family from this radiation.
WiFi Radiation Dangers

Frontal Lobe Brain TumorWhen you search on the internet for information about WiFi Radiation, whether it is safe or not, the answers that you get really depend on the source of the article you are reading. If it is a main stream media website, or one from a government agency or a technology company, they generally tell you that since WiFi Radiation is a “non-ionizing” form of electromagnetic radiation, “there is no way that it could be harmful to us”. I wish that were true.

However there are literally multiple hundreds of peer review scientific studies performed by doctors and scientists from all over the world who link this form of non-ionizing radiation to things like crib death, cancer, DNA damage (especially in infants and fetuses), and infertility. I have links to where you can find many of these scientific studies on the scientific studies page of this website.

I also have a couple of really good videos on that page by a British physicist named Barrie Trower who has studied this form of radiation for his entire career. He started out in the military being trained on how this form of radiation is used as military weapons both to damage the enemy as well as to disperse crowds.
More Dangerous Than A Cell Phone?

Yes the radiation coming from your WiFi router can be more dangerous than the radiation coming from your cell phone, depending on how close you are to it. Why? the reason is that it is constant. The radiation from a cell phone is intermittent meaning that it is only putting out the radiation when it is doing something where it needs to, like sending or receiving a phone call, checking GPS or checking for a WiFi signal.

A WiFi router on the other hand is always sending out the radiation 24 hours a day 7 days a week full blast. (A cordless phone sends out radiation 24/7 also just like a WiFi router by the way) It is not intermittent. And it is sending it all throughout the home. A cell phone causes people to get brain tumors when they are on it a lot. There have been scientific studies showing that. (See The 7 Worst Radiations In The Home).

Re: 5G: Can Someone Convince Me 5G is Dangerous?

Posted: January 2nd, 2021, 7:33 pm
by Toto
Toto ran across this article while cleaning out his mailbox; an exercise akin to cells excreting exosomes to get rid of some garbage. (See video by Thomas Cowan below)

Can 5G Radiation Cause Coronavirus Infection?
Posted on:
Wednesday, July 22nd 2020 at 1:15 pm
Written By:
Sayer Ji, Founder

Full article and links at https://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/can-5 ... -infection


Exerpts:

…the idea that one of the causes of illness associated with the coronavirus crisis derives from non-native electromagnetic radiation exposure, including from 5G millimeter waves, was proposed by Dr. Thomas Cowan, in the highly controversial presentation below. This has been labeled as "false and harmful" information on a variety of social media and global mainstream media platforms.
Hat tip to the creator.

This debris, which he describes as part of the detoxification of the damaged cells ("cellular pooping"), may be mistakenly identified as exogenous viruses such as coronavirus and may result in false positives on RT-PCR tests, which are notoriously ineffective at positively distinguishing specific strains of viruses and identifying them with any certainty.

Dr. Andrew Kaufman has also explored this topic and discovered that what the global mainstream medical establishment and media are identifying as "COVID-19" is likely our own exosomes being secreted by either healthy or damaged cells.

*Incidentally, the notion that the harms of 5G radiation extend beyond the surface of the skin, as commonly parroted by the telecom industry and its would-be regulators, and that human skin may act as a 5G radiation receiver was discussed in a paper published in 2018 titled, "The human skin as a sub-THz receiver - Does 5G pose a danger to it or not?"


P.S. Toto has noticed that T-Mobile has had 5G operations since the beginning of this purported pandemic, and that Verizon Wireless just recently launched 5G operations so a second wave is practically baked in the cake..

See https://www.weboost.com/blog/how-to-fin ... s-near-you and https://kutv.com/features/fresh-living/ ... 5g-hotspot

Re: 5G: Can Someone Convince Me 5G is Dangerous?

Posted: January 4th, 2021, 1:34 pm
by Toto
Catherine Austin Fitts had something to say about the subject:

Now, why are they saying there’s going to be a second wave? Do you know what’s going to happen in September/October? They’re going to finish getting all the Star Link satellites up. And they’re going to start turning 5G on and they’re turning them on all over the country…THAT’S GOING TO MAKE A LOT OF PEOPLE SICK.

And they need a cover story because, they need for their plans of rolling out digital currencies and rolling out lots of robotics, they need 5G. 5g was invented by the Israelis for crowd control. It’s a crowd control technology. It’s not really a telecommunications technology, but if you look at all their plans, whether its driverless cars, or digital credit systems to replace the dollar, they need massive bandwidth. And of course they know it's going to make a lot of people sick. So it wouldn’t surprise me if the second wave is the cover story for all the extraordinary damage that’s going to be done for our health by the injections, and if you look at the numbers it’s clear that the people who had this year’s flu shot were much more likely to get Covid-19 and to suffer from it, or die from it.

https://youtu.be/1Pb5-qkMdFM?t=1649

Here is the full interview:

Catherine Austin Fitts – We are Watching the Mother of All Debt Entrapments
Jun 20, 2020
https://youtu.be/1Pb5-qkMdFM

Re: 5G: Can Someone Convince Me 5G is Dangerous?

Posted: January 9th, 2021, 10:04 am
by SPIRIT

Re: 5G: Can Someone Convince Me 5G is Dangerous?

Posted: January 25th, 2021, 11:52 am
by Thinker
Includes 5-G military demonstrations
https://youtu.be/H7LlNq4qRNo

Anyone know of an accurate, up-to-date searchable map of 5G towers?

This is the best I’be found so far, but it doesn’t show all of them.
https://www.speedtest.net/ookla-5g-map

Re: 5G: Can Someone Convince Me 5G is Dangerous?

Posted: January 29th, 2021, 11:47 am
by Toto
5G resources from SGT Report

https://www.sgtreport.com/category/5g/

Re: 5G: Can Someone Convince Me 5G is Dangerous?

Posted: February 6th, 2021, 8:04 am
by SPIRIT
better watch it because youtube might take it down.

Re: 5G: Can Someone Convince Me 5G is Dangerous?

Posted: February 6th, 2021, 8:19 am
by topcat
SPIRIT wrote: February 6th, 2021, 8:04 am better watch it because youtube might take it down.
Those reporters standing outside in their masks is ridiculous. It's pure propaganda.

And the people being interviewed wearing masks is propaganda. Even coaches at propaganda NCAA or NBA games being interviewed is carefully orchestrated propaganda.

They look like participants in some occult ceremony.

Re: 5G: Can Someone Convince Me 5G is Dangerous?

Posted: February 6th, 2021, 8:43 am
by markharr
I can't convince you it's dangerous. I don't believe it is myself but I can provide you with my personal experience and tell you not to pay anything extra for it. I currently have it switched off and set to LTE because It is faster. Pages kept taking for ever to load in certain areas when I was out and about so I would switch to LTE and they would load almost immediately. Even in areas where it works, I notice no difference. Even with video. I had no problem with videos buffering on LTE, so not sure why 5G was needed.

Re: 5G: Can Someone Convince Me 5G is Dangerous?

Posted: February 6th, 2021, 8:51 am
by SPIRIT
markharr wrote: February 6th, 2021, 8:43 am I can't convince you it's dangerous. I don't believe it is myself
do you even look at all the info. out there on 5G.. NO !
and it's obvious you haven't even bothered to look at anything in this thread.
SMH

and much much more
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=54546&p=1015906&hil ... 1#p1015906

Re: 5G: Can Someone Convince Me 5G is Dangerous?

Posted: February 6th, 2021, 9:00 am
by markharr
SPIRIT wrote: February 6th, 2021, 8:51 am
markharr wrote: February 6th, 2021, 8:43 am I can't convince you it's dangerous. I don't believe it is myself
do you even look at all the info. out there on 5G.. NO !
and it's obvious you haven't even bothered to look at anything in this thread.
SMH
No, I haven't looked at the info. Just my own understanding of microwaves. If 5G is dangerous, 4G is more dangerous.

You are getting bombarded from radiation everywhere. From the sun, asphalt, radon in your basement, your microwave and wifi. Even going to the temple. The granite used in the construction of the SLC temple and conference center is radioactive. I guess you can live your life or cower in your house wearing a radiation suit as long as you don't go in the basement or use any electronics.