The Coronavirus Hoax

[Silver Pie]

When are dentists and doctors going to push back at making folks wear masks? Wearing a mask consistently is bad for your health... Rebreathing your own exhaled air.... Oxygen kills bacteria and viruses, so folks wearing masks, especially at work, are getting lung infections as they lower oxygen in their lungs which creates an ideal condition for viruses and bacteria to thrive.

When are more Americans going up grow a spine and stand up and stand against this sham?

I wonder if there's an awakened web site that lists places and locations that don't require masks.

I've been to Walmart a few times since Utah turned "yellow". At first, nearly everyone was wearing a mask. The last time or two, hardly anyone was.

[Alaris]

When are dentists and doctors going to push back at making folks wear masks? Wearing a mask consistently is bad for your health... Rebreathing your own exhaled air.... Oxygen kills bacteria and viruses, so folks wearing masks, especially at work, are getting lung infections as they lower oxygen in their lungs which creates an ideal condition for viruses and bacteria to thrive.

When are more Americans going up grow a spine and stand up and stand against this sham?

I wonder if there's an awakened web site that lists places and locations that don't require masks.

I've been to Walmart a few times since Utah turned "yellow". At first, nearly everyone was wearing a mask. The last time or two, hardly anyone was.

Wow that's promising! Which state is this if you don't mind sharing? In Arizona, there's still about half people wearing masks in stores....in 109 degree weather. PEOPLE! This is the safest place on planet earth right now from flu viruses - a dry desert.....I so badly want to start loudly saying such in public stores.....which is very much not like me (can't stand loud folk)

[Silver Pie]

Wow that's promising! Which state is this if you don't mind sharing? In Arizona, there's still about half people wearing masks in stores....in 109 degree weather. PEOPLE! This is the safest place on planet earth right now from flu viruses - a dry desert.....I so badly want to start loudly saying such in public stores.....which is very much not like me (can't stand loud folk)

Washington County, Utah.

I just posted in another thread that I wish I was living back in Arizona again. I wonder how many of my friends and my kids' relatives are wearing masks in the heat that can be a killer down there in southern AZ.

[Joel]

[SAM]

When are dentists and doctors going to push back at making folks wear masks? Wearing a mask consistently is bad for your health... Rebreathing your own exhaled air.... Oxygen kills bacteria and viruses, so folks wearing masks, especially at work, are getting lung infections as they lower oxygen in their lungs which creates an ideal condition for viruses and bacteria to thrive.

When are more Americans going up grow a spine and stand up and stand against this sham?

I wonder if there's an awakened web site that lists places and locations that don't require masks.

I've been to Walmart a few times since Utah turned "yellow". At first, nearly everyone was wearing a mask. The last time or two, hardly anyone was.

Wow that's promising! Which state is this if you don't mind sharing? In Arizona, there's still about half people wearing masks in stores....in 109 degree weather. PEOPLE! This is the safest place on planet earth right now from flu viruses - a dry desert.....I so badly want to start loudly saying such in public stores.....which is very much not like me (can't stand loud folk)

Interesting! In my corner of So AZ I feel people are wearing them more than ever. I went to two stores a couple of days ago and probably saw one or two other people in either store, besides me, without a mask. It kills me to see people wearing them walking around outside in this heat. I don’t even know how they can stand it!

[SPIRIT]

Plannedemic ! Trump - H.R.748 CV aid bill started May July 2019 !

COVID-19
So this all STARTED Jan 2019?

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[Pazooka]

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[Benjamin_LK]

When are dentists and doctors going to push back at making folks wear masks? Wearing a mask consistently is bad for your health... Rebreathing your own exhaled air.... Oxygen kills bacteria and viruses, so folks wearing masks, especially at work, are getting lung infections as they lower oxygen in their lungs which creates an ideal condition for viruses and bacteria to thrive.

When are more Americans going up grow a spine and stand up and stand against this sham?

I wonder if there's an awakened web site that lists places and locations that don't require masks.

I've been to Walmart a few times since Utah turned "yellow". At first, nearly everyone was wearing a mask. The last time or two, hardly anyone was.

Wow that's promising! Which state is this if you don't mind sharing? In Arizona, there's still about half people wearing masks in stores....in 109 degree weather. PEOPLE! This is the safest place on planet earth right now from flu viruses - a dry desert.....I so badly want to start loudly saying such in public stores.....which is very much not like me (can't stand loud folk)

Interesting! In my corner of So AZ I feel people are wearing them more than ever. I went to two stores a couple of days ago and probably saw one or two other people in either store, besides me, without a mask. It kills me to see people wearing them walking around outside in this heat. I don’t even know how they can stand it!

When I wore a mask at work, it was about making sure I didn't inhale dust or mold. We had breaks around every thirty minutes to get water to drink. Honestly, unless it's not super long periods and you clean off/replace your mask, it shouldn't get too bad.

[EmmaLee]

https://www.theblaze.com/news/asymptoma ... 270%20days

JUNE 08, 2020
Oops! Asymptomatic coronavirus carriers rarely spread it, WHO now says
What will health experts discover next?

After nearly three months of coronavirus-related shutdowns that put tens of millions of Americans out of work, destroyed untold numbers of businesses, and shuttered schools across the land, the World Health Organization now says asymptomatic carriers of COVID-19 — cited as one of the reasons for social distancing policies — rarely spread the virus, CNBC reported.

What are the details?
The WHO's revelation Monday followed preliminary findings from earliest COVID-19 outbreaks that those without symptoms could spread the virus to others, the network said.

"From the data we have, it still seems to be rare that an asymptomatic person actually transmits onward to a secondary individual," said Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, head of WHO's emerging diseases and zoonosis unit, according to CNBC. "It's very rare."

Some people, particularly young and otherwise healthy individuals, can be infected by the coronavirus but never develop symptoms — or develop only mild symptoms, the network said.

[topcat]

https://www.theblaze.com/news/asymptoma ... 270%20days

JUNE 08, 2020
Oops! Asymptomatic coronavirus carriers rarely spread it, WHO now says
What will health experts discover next?

After nearly three months of coronavirus-related shutdowns that put tens of millions of Americans out of work, destroyed untold numbers of businesses, and shuttered schools across the land, the World Health Organization now says asymptomatic carriers of COVID-19 — cited as one of the reasons for social distancing policies — rarely spread the virus, CNBC reported.

What are the details?
The WHO's revelation Monday followed preliminary findings from earliest COVID-19 outbreaks that those without symptoms could spread the virus to others, the network said.

"From the data we have, it still seems to be rare that an asymptomatic person actually transmits onward to a secondary individual," said Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, head of WHO's emerging diseases and zoonosis unit, according to CNBC. "It's very rare."

Some people, particularly young and otherwise healthy individuals, can be infected by the coronavirus but never develop symptoms — or develop only mild symptoms, the network said.

What a joke. Pathetic.

My country is gone.

No place to go. Feel like Nephi every day:

5 And it came to pass that I was overcome because of my afflictions, for I considered that mine afflictions were great above all, because of the destruction of my people, for I had beheld their fall.

OF COURSE the W.H.O. will say this.

Economic destruction has been accomplished. Now they will gear up for their next round of terrorism, so they need to put this nonsense behind us. Now Trump can say, "No need to social distance, let's get America back to normal", just in time for a re-election bid.

[buffalo_girl]

I've wondered if the 'healthcare' industry along with embezzling governments aren't concerned about increasing numbers of older people being a 'drain on the system'. Well, apparently I'm not the only person who has had that thought.

The most valuable lessons taught to me in my youth were from my grandparents' generation. Heaven forbid the 'rising generation' learn how to make do with what's available from those who have learned self-reliance and endurance from a lifetime of experience.

"Every time an old person dies, it’s like a library burning down.”
– Alex Haley

[Toto]

Dr. Rashid Buttar URGENT! Full Disclosure From INSIDE| HR 6666 IS COMING!

[nvr]

https://www.theblaze.com/news/asymptoma ... 270%20days

JUNE 08, 2020
Oops! Asymptomatic coronavirus carriers rarely spread it, WHO now says
What will health experts discover next?

After nearly three months of coronavirus-related shutdowns that put tens of millions of Americans out of work, destroyed untold numbers of businesses, and shuttered schools across the land, the World Health Organization now says asymptomatic carriers of COVID-19 — cited as one of the reasons for social distancing policies — rarely spread the virus, CNBC reported.

What are the details?
The WHO's revelation Monday followed preliminary findings from earliest COVID-19 outbreaks that those without symptoms could spread the virus to others, the network said.

"From the data we have, it still seems to be rare that an asymptomatic person actually transmits onward to a secondary individual," said Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, head of WHO's emerging diseases and zoonosis unit, according to CNBC. "It's very rare."

Some people, particularly young and otherwise healthy individuals, can be infected by the coronavirus but never develop symptoms — or develop only mild symptoms, the network said.

This is such a critical revelation. Never in history have the healthy been quarantined. We shut down our economies all over the world based on the idea that this disease was somehow different and that those appearing healthy could readily spread the virus.

Looks like W.H.O. is in damage control mode after letting this cat out of the bag that asymptomatic spread is rare (CNN even reported on it Monday: https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/08/health/c ... index.html)

Now you see the Dr. who gave her honest assessment re-toeing the line after likely receiving flack:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/09/worl ... k-452d2061

A top expert at the World Health Organization on Tuesday walked back her earlier assertion that transmission of the coronavirus by people who do not have symptoms is “very rare.”

Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, who made the original comment at a W.H.O. briefing on Monday, said that it was based on just two or three studies and that it was a “misunderstanding” to say asymptomatic transmission is rare globally.

“I was just responding to a question, I wasn’t stating a policy of W.H.O. or anything like that,” she said.

W.H.O. policies are independent of reality I think is the takeaway .

[Toto]

TOTO RESTS HIS CASE!

Bill Gates comes out of the closet and goes prime time–WOW! (Video)
Posted on June 9, 2020 by State of the Nation

ROTFLMGO! But be careful, there's no such thing as a joke.

[prew]

I know this virus can be dangerous to some vulnerable people; but the reporting and acting on an error in reporting of data can also affect people.

I have been hearing about mass testing, such has occurred in Utah prisons and at JBS.

"The spike in positive cases also comes from mass testing events where 1,300 tests were completed."
https://www.ksl.com/article/46761499/ut ... e-outbreak
and
https://www.ksl.com/article/46762626/co ... -isnt-over

What I see is an error in reporting of the data collected from mass testing.
The error comes from combining the data collected from mass testing and data from just people with symptoms.
Let me explain, the first 2.5 months of data collected came from walk ins / drive ins (people who have symptoms and wanted to make sure it wasn't covid-19). Now with mass testing in the past two weeks - the data now contains people with no symptoms but test positive and people that have symptoms of covid-19.

As a parent that goes and help grade science fair projects at my children's school; I do not allow such reporting. I mark down the science project if I see such data collection combination and reporting.

If I were a ABET administrator, I would also mark down any ABET accredited school which collect such data and reporting and call it science.

But I am just a computer technician, who watches and listens and loosing trust in medical officials and government officials and it looks like I am loosing trust in school officials.

[Thinker]

I know this virus can be dangerous to some vulnerable people; but the reporting and acting on an error in reporting of data can also affect people...

...But I am just a computer technician, who watches and listens and loosing trust in medical officials and government officials and it looks like I am loosing trust in school officials.

You’re not alone - many realize the testing approach to be counter to the scientific method & deceptive in reporting. That in itself is cause to not trust covid reports & immunizations. There are plenty other causes for suspicion.

Because of how news has been deceptively scripted (https://youtu.be/rUDP6e5N9gw)
we may never know for sure fact from fiction. Still, some events to keep in mind...

* 1965 Scientists first identified a human coronavirus. Typical colds were never made into paranoid news, though.

*”2005 - 2012 the US had experienced 1,059 events where pathogens had been either stolen or escaped from American bio-labs...“

*Fort Detrick (US military bio-warfare lab in Maryland) was shut down multiple times, including:
2009 for storing 9,200 viles of pathogens not listed on inventory
https://www.dcreport.org/2019/12/04/the ... rfare-lab/

*2009 H1N1 Pandemic (H1N1pdm09 virus... besides multiple other pandemics throughout history). Anyone remember during the 2009 pandemic this social distancing, wearing muzzles - I mean masks - & shutting down people’s livelihoods on such a global scale??? No, I don’t either.

* 7/2014 Bill Gate’s PIRBRIGHT INSTITUTE Applied for patent for Coronavirus
Granted patent 2018
https://patents.google.com/patent/US10130701B2/en

*2015 Bill Gates says we need military games pandemic practice (5:40...) https://youtu.be/6Af6b_wyiwI

*7/3019 Fort Detrick sent cease and desist order by CDC. Bio-warfare lab shut down.

*10/18/2019 Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in partnership with the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation hosted Event 201, a high-level PANDEMIC EXERCISE in New York, NY.
Hm... what have they learned for the real thing???

*10/18/2019 The 2019 Military World Games, officially known as the 7th CISM Military World Games and commonly known as Wuhan 2019, was held from October 18–27, 2019 in Wuhan, Hubei, China. US team usually outperforms most but did badly and were suspected of being sick.

*11/2019 1st covid case in China https://www.livescience.com/first-case- ... found.html

*1/2020 +45 million in China under quarantine, some dramatically (& purposely caught on camera & released to US media) of boarding people up into apartment buildings. Drastic measures in China, unusually shared with US media. Hm... Reports of beginning spread to US.

*2/2020... 3 in my family including me had heavy chest, fever - covid symptoms, & successfully recovered.

*March 2020 US orders to shut down small “non-essential” businesses, churches, schools & restricts social gatherings. Reports by multiple nurses & doctors across the US of many false reports of covid as cause of death when patients died of other causes.

*March 2020 Government $2,000,000,000,000 ($2 Trillion) stimulus package.

*2020 media censoring anything that questions the scripted narrative like the following...
“Japanese and Taiwanese epidemiologists and pharmacologists have determined that the new coronavirus could have originated in the US since that country is the only one known to have all five types – from which all others must have descended. Wuhan in China has only one of those types, rendering it in analogy as a kind of “branch” which cannot exist by itself but must have grown from a “tree”...
It would seem the only possibility for origination would be the US because only that country has the “tree trunk” of all the varieties. And it may therefore be true that the original source of the COVID-19 virus was the US military bio-warfare lab at Fort Detrick.”
https://www.globalresearch.ca/covid-19- ... us/5706078

*6/2020 The Army Quietly Re-Opens Its Infamous Germ Warfare Lab, Fort Detrick (https://www.dcreport.org/2019/12/04/the ... rfare-lab/)

[justme]

Good thing this is a hoax because Jon Huntsman just test positive. I am sure he will be glad to know he really isn't sick, it is all his imagination, and he can get back on the campaign trail.

[nvr]

Good thing this is a hoax because Jon Huntsman just test positive. I am sure he will be glad to know he really isn't sick, it is all his imagination, and he can get back on the campaign trail.

And how's he doing and how're the 99.8+% of the rest of the positive-tested cases doing?
The hoax is in the outlandish, illogical international response. Early projections didn't pan out. Instead of millions of deaths, only in the hundred thousands and likely less.
The 2017-2018 flu season caused 1.5 million deaths. Corona deaths as of today are still less than a third of this a t 414,000. This is with the arbitrary COVID-19 testing criteria which gives a positive for anything within family of corona-type viruses (the common cold included). And it includes all those deaths we hear of where they died of other causes but just happened to have the corona-type antibodies present.
We've crippled ourselves as a society for nothing. People have simply watch the news and assume they're hearing truth. I know family who still won't leave the house and others who won't permit visitors which means no summer vacations to visit. It's now been admitted by W.H.O. officials that the asymptomatic rarely transmit. There's been round after round of layoffs in the Aero industry. How many small businesses not considered essential will have disappeared after this? Going along with popular news sources may feel right in the moment. They've shown a disturbing lack of discernment and ability to scrutinize here.

[justme]

Good thing this is a hoax because Jon Huntsman just test positive. I am sure he will be glad to know he really isn't sick, it is all his imagination, and he can get back on the campaign trail.

And how's he doing and how're the 99.8+% of the rest of the positive-tested cases doing?
The hoax is in the outlandish, illogical international response. Early projections didn't pan out. Instead of millions of deaths, only in the hundred thousands and likely less.
The 2017-2018 flu season caused 1.5 million deaths. Corona deaths as of today are still less than a third of this a t 414,000. This is with the arbitrary COVID-19 testing criteria which gives a positive for anything within family of corona-type viruses (the common cold included). And it includes all those deaths we hear of where they died of other causes but just happened to have the corona-type antibodies present.
We've crippled ourselves as a society for nothing. People have simply watch the news and assume they're hearing truth. I know family who still won't leave the house and others who won't permit visitors which means no summer vacations to visit. It's now been admitted by W.H.O. officials that the asymptomatic rarely transmit. There's been round after round of layoffs in the Aero industry. How many small businesses not considered essential will have disappeared after this? Going along with popular news sources may feel right in the moment. They've shown a disturbing lack of discernment and ability to scrutinize here.

In one sentence you talk about the outlandish response and in the next sentence you talk about projections not panning out. Hmm I wonder if there could be any connection.

And by the way, do you have any citations for the numbers you quote? Thank you.

[nvr]

Good thing this is a hoax because Jon Huntsman just test positive. I am sure he will be glad to know he really isn't sick, it is all his imagination, and he can get back on the campaign trail.

And how's he doing and how're the 99.8+% of the rest of the positive-tested cases doing?
The hoax is in the outlandish, illogical international response. Early projections didn't pan out. Instead of millions of deaths, only in the hundred thousands and likely less.
The 2017-2018 flu season caused 1.5 million deaths. Corona deaths as of today are still less than a third of this a t 414,000. This is with the arbitrary COVID-19 testing criteria which gives a positive for anything within family of corona-type viruses (the common cold included). And it includes all those deaths we hear of where they died of other causes but just happened to have the corona-type antibodies present.
We've crippled ourselves as a society for nothing. People have simply watch the news and assume they're hearing truth. I know family who still won't leave the house and others who won't permit visitors which means no summer vacations to visit. It's now been admitted by W.H.O. officials that the asymptomatic rarely transmit. There's been round after round of layoffs in the Aero industry. How many small businesses not considered essential will have disappeared after this? Going along with popular news sources may feel right in the moment. They've shown a disturbing lack of discernment and ability to scrutinize here.

In one sentence you talk about the outlandish response and in the next sentence you talk about projections not panning out. Hmm I wonder if there could be any connection.

And by the way, do you have any citations for the numbers you quote? Thank you.

I should have put, their early mistaken , guesswork-based projections didn't pan out.

Sources:
Coronavirus deaths: 416,000
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


2017-2018 Worldwide Seasonal Flu deaths : 1,500,000 (a particularly bad flu season - normally 290,000-650,000)
p. 57 https://www.ichbinanderermeinung.de/Dokument93.pdf (This is the report by German Interior Ministry - appointed team of Doctors / Scientists. If there are additional sources anyone finds, please post. Apparently, past-year worldwide flu statistics numbers are hard to find.)

The flu for 2017-18 was a bad season. Just to compare, normally, US deaths is between 30,000-60,000.
2017-2018 US Seasonal Flu deaths : 80,000-95,000
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/t ... story.html
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/20 ... a%20season.

Up until today, COVID-19 deaths are on the order of a regular flu season and not even a third as bad as the 2017-2018 season. It brings up the question of why are many still working from home, having to wear a mask to go to Costco or the airport and not going to church again?

[justme]

Good thing this is a hoax because Jon Huntsman just test positive. I am sure he will be glad to know he really isn't sick, it is all his imagination, and he can get back on the campaign trail.

And how's he doing and how're the 99.8+% of the rest of the positive-tested cases doing?
The hoax is in the outlandish, illogical international response. Early projections didn't pan out. Instead of millions of deaths, only in the hundred thousands and likely less.
The 2017-2018 flu season caused 1.5 million deaths. Corona deaths as of today are still less than a third of this a t 414,000. This is with the arbitrary COVID-19 testing criteria which gives a positive for anything within family of corona-type viruses (the common cold included). And it includes all those deaths we hear of where they died of other causes but just happened to have the corona-type antibodies present.
We've crippled ourselves as a society for nothing. People have simply watch the news and assume they're hearing truth. I know family who still won't leave the house and others who won't permit visitors which means no summer vacations to visit. It's now been admitted by W.H.O. officials that the asymptomatic rarely transmit. There's been round after round of layoffs in the Aero industry. How many small businesses not considered essential will have disappeared after this? Going along with popular news sources may feel right in the moment. They've shown a disturbing lack of discernment and ability to scrutinize here.

In one sentence you talk about the outlandish response and in the next sentence you talk about projections not panning out. Hmm I wonder if there could be any connection.

And by the way, do you have any citations for the numbers you quote? Thank you.

I should have put, their early mistaken , guesswork-based projections didn't pan out.

Sources:
Coronavirus deaths: 416,000
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


2017-2018 Worldwide Seasonal Flu deaths : 1,500,000 (a particularly bad flu season - normally 290,000-650,000)
p. 57 https://www.ichbinanderermeinung.de/Dokument93.pdf (This is the report by German Interior Ministry - appointed team of Doctors / Scientists. If there are additional sources anyone finds, please post. Apparently, past-year worldwide flu statistics numbers are hard to find.)

The flu for 2017-18 was a bad season. Just to compare, normally, US deaths is between 30,000-60,000.
2017-2018 US Seasonal Flu deaths : 80,000-95,000
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/t ... story.html
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/20 ... a%20season.

Up until today, COVID-19 deaths are on the order of a regular flu season and not even a third as bad as the 2017-2018 season. It brings up the question of why are many still working from home, having to wear a mask to go to Costco or the airport and not going to church again?

Thank you for the source citations, I will look at those also. Flu numbers are very slippery, even more so than our covid numbers.

[Joel]

[Toto]

Flu numbers are very slippery, even more so than our covid numbers.

OK justme, since you are being so demanding, in light of you ignorance considering all the information provided by various posters about this HOAX, would you please provide some citations regarding flu numbers to back up your assertions that "Flu numbers are very slippery"?

[nvr]

An "avenue" exists to over-diagnose COVID-19 cases. Hospitals receive a 20% premium, or add-on for patients with "plausible" Corona (not just laboratory-confirmed). They get a certain amount per patient and triple that amount if put on a respirator
.

The laboratory test itself checks antibodies for corona family of viruses (common cold is a corona virus). The work to check the specific genome of COVID-19 takes weeks and it isn't done.

In many places, they count a COVID-19 death if an antibody test comes back positive - so it's a Corona death if they died with Corona virus-family antibodies, not if they died from COVID-19. How many deaths have been counted as COVID-19 who happened to have a cold in the recent past or maybe even actual CV19 but were asymptomatic? How many who died of a stroke, a heart attack or pulmonary embolism have been counted because of the way they're using the test to attribute the cause of death?

The number of actual COVID-19-caused deaths out of the reported 115,000 is arguably not far off of past flu seasons. It's for sure not the 10X worse death rate people were fear-mongering about at the start of this which has caused such ruin in the economy.

[justme]

An "avenue" exists to over-diagnose COVID-19 cases. Hospitals receive a 20% premium, or add-on for patients with "plausible" Corona (not just laboratory-confirmed). They get a certain amount per patient and triple that amount if put on a respirator
.

The laboratory test itself checks antibodies for corona family of viruses (common cold is a corona virus). The work to check the specific genome of COVID-19 takes weeks and it isn't done.

In many places, they count a COVID-19 death if an antibody test comes back positive - so it's a Corona death if they died with Corona virus-family antibodies, not if they died from COVID-19. How many deaths have been counted as COVID-19 who happened to have a cold in the recent past or maybe even actual CV19 but were asymptomatic? How many who died of a stroke, a heart attack or pulmonary embolism have been counted because of the way they're using the test to attribute the cause of death?

The number of actual COVID-19-caused deaths out of the reported 115,000 is arguably not far off of past flu seasons. It's for sure not the 10X worse death rate people were fear-mongering about at the start of this which has caused such ruin in the economy.

Interesting. It is difficult to find stats on deaths from common cold of coronavirus family variety. (Not all colds are coronovirus family but some are.)
But for the sake of argument lets assume that deaths being reported as covid 19 are really just misdiagnosed coronovirus deaths because they were just looking at antibodies wrong. There are still over 100,000 deaths to account for and this far exceeds normal deaths. So something is up to cause these excess deaths.
I appreciate any other links or citations you may have for me to look at.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covi ... deaths.htm provides information on this concept of excess deaths.