The Coronavirus Hoax

[Davka]

Sorry, I don't have time to read every last post of 16 pages, so if I'm repeating information, my apologies.

Apparently, one of the many factors exacerbating the "effects" of the Corona virus appears to be whether the victims got their government-recommended flu shot(s); that is, if they did, they are at an 36% HIGHER risk to succumb to the virus ... just over one third. That would explain the increasing deaths in some of the older population.

This is consistent with a well-designed study from a few years ago that showed that receiving the trivalent flu vaccine had no impact on whether or not a person contracted the flu, but did increase the chance of catching another respiratory virus by 4x.

The flu vaccine is a joke.

[Davka]

Hunger shortages are beginning.

“Instead of coronavirus, the hunger will kill us”

This from the New York Times:

“Already, 135 million people had been facing acute food shortages, but now with the pandemic, 130 million more could go hungry in 2020, said Arif Husain, chief economist at the World Food Program, a United Nations agency. Altogether, an estimated 265 million people could be pushed to the brink of starvation by year’s end.

“We’ve never seen anything like this before,” Mr. Husain said. “It wasn’t a pretty picture to begin with, but this makes it truly unprecedented and uncharted territory.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytime ... s.amp.html

Or this could be more fear propaganda. I really don’t know what to believe anymore.

[topcat]

Hunger shortages are beginning.

“Instead of coronavirus, the hunger will kill us”

This from the New York Times:

“Already, 135 million people had been facing acute food shortages, but now with the pandemic, 130 million more could go hungry in 2020, said Arif Husain, chief economist at the World Food Program, a United Nations agency. Altogether, an estimated 265 million people could be pushed to the brink of starvation by year’s end.

“We’ve never seen anything like this before,” Mr. Husain said. “It wasn’t a pretty picture to begin with, but this makes it truly unprecedented and uncharted territory.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytime ... s.amp.html

Or this could be more fear propaganda. I really don’t know what to believe anymore.

Many objectives are being met screw the rollout of this false flag event.

One juicy strawberry that the eugenicists orgasmically welcome is the depopulation of Africa and third world countries.

It'll happen in America through mainly malnutrition, but when you combine malnutrition with no food, it will result in the deaths of hundreds of millions of people through in the next 1-3 years.

Ask yourself if loving people like Bill Gates and his eugenics friends are pleased with this result?

I don't think it's fear propaganda-- the New York times editors publish true things on occasion-- what they will not publish or call for is accountability for those who caused this false flag, that will result in the hundreds of millions of dead people.

I think it's basic math. The food supply is being hit hard. Less food means rising prices that will hurt Americans, but it will mean starvation for entire countries.

[Davka]

Hunger shortages are beginning.

“Instead of coronavirus, the hunger will kill us”

This from the New York Times:

“Already, 135 million people had been facing acute food shortages, but now with the pandemic, 130 million more could go hungry in 2020, said Arif Husain, chief economist at the World Food Program, a United Nations agency. Altogether, an estimated 265 million people could be pushed to the brink of starvation by year’s end.

“We’ve never seen anything like this before,” Mr. Husain said. “It wasn’t a pretty picture to begin with, but this makes it truly unprecedented and uncharted territory.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytime ... s.amp.html

Or this could be more fear propaganda. I really don’t know what to believe anymore.

Many objectives are being met screw the rollout of this false flag event.

One juicy strawberry that the eugenicists orgasmically welcome is the depopulation of Africa and third world countries.

It'll happen in America through mainly malnutrition, but when you combine malnutrition with no food, it will result in the deaths of hundreds of millions of people through in the next 1-3 years.

Ask yourself if loving people like Bill Gates and his eugenics friends are pleased with this result?

Oh, I’m sure the likes of Bill Gates are pleased. I totally get that this will happen at some point. I’m just skeptical of anything I read in The NY Times, and am not convinced this “pandemic” is the actual one that will accomplish the agenda of depopulation. I think this is a warm up for the real thing.

[topcat]

Hunger shortages are beginning.

“Instead of coronavirus, the hunger will kill us”

This from the New York Times:

“Already, 135 million people had been facing acute food shortages, but now with the pandemic, 130 million more could go hungry in 2020, said Arif Husain, chief economist at the World Food Program, a United Nations agency. Altogether, an estimated 265 million people could be pushed to the brink of starvation by year’s end.

“We’ve never seen anything like this before,” Mr. Husain said. “It wasn’t a pretty picture to begin with, but this makes it truly unprecedented and uncharted territory.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytime ... s.amp.html

Or this could be more fear propaganda. I really don’t know what to believe anymore.

Many objectives are being met screw the rollout of this false flag event.

One juicy strawberry that the eugenicists orgasmically welcome is the depopulation of Africa and third world countries.

It'll happen in America through mainly malnutrition, but when you combine malnutrition with no food, it will result in the deaths of hundreds of millions of people through in the next 1-3 years.

Ask yourself if loving people like Bill Gates and his eugenics friends are pleased with this result?

Oh, I’m sure the likes of Bill Gates are pleased. I totally get that this will happen at some point. I’m just skeptical of anything I read in The NY Times, and am not convinced this “pandemic” is the actual one that will accomplish the agenda of depopulation. I think this is a warm up for the real thing.

The real thing is described in this video.

https://youtu.be/oY5SReQ2Kqc

Note that this guy predicted precisely what we are experiencing now back in February 2018.

That should buy him credibility in your eyes.

And there is a longer video that was just done in which he was interviewed just recently. It's linked above in someone's post, within the last 10 or 12 comments above.

UPDATE: LOL, it was you who posted the link. I thank you very much.

[buffalo_girl]

Or this could be more fear propaganda. I really don’t know what to believe anymore.

Here in the upper MidWest, reports are that piglets & laying hens are being killed by the 10's of thousands, and milk is being poured out onto fields because of lack of markets. Cattlemen are getting $400 less per steer at auction than it took to raise the animal.

I don't know what to believe either.

With the closure of so many meat packers, I do anticipate a meat shortage in the near future. A protein deficient population is a very old means of keeping people in a weakened state.

An uncle of mine survived a German prisoner of war camp by scavenging nettles around the compound and cooking them in water as 'soup'. His legs were badly burned when captured. Without medical intervention he was able to return home.

Nettles have very high protein & nutrient composition. Bring nettle starts home from the woods or wetlands and grow them in your yard or garden spot. They are good for the soil as well as to eat. I restored a strip of subsoil surrounding a newer house I once lived in with decaying hard wood, horse manure, & nettles. In just a couple of years, I had glorious plants growing in that area, along with my nettles.

[topcat]

Or this could be more fear propaganda. I really don’t know what to believe anymore.

Here in the upper MidWest, reports are that piglets & laying hens are being killed by the 10's of thousands, and milk is being poured out onto fields because of lack of markets. Cattlemen are getting $400 less per steer at auction than it took to raise the animal.

I don't know what to believe either.

With the closure of so many meat packers, I do anticipate a meat shortage in the near future. A protein deficient population is a very old means of keeping people in a weakened state.

An uncle of mine survived a German prisoner of war camp by scavenging nettles around the compound and cooking them in water as 'soup'. His legs were badly burned when captured. Without medical intervention he was able to return home.

Nettles have very high protein & nutrient composition. Bring nettle starts home from the woods or wetlands and grow them in your yard or garden spot. They are good for the soil as well as to eat. I restored a strip of subsoil surrounding a newer house I once lived in with decaying hard wood, horse manure, & nettles. In just a couple of years, I had glorious plants growing in that area, along with my nettles.

In Kentucky, we're able to buy very nice hamburger meat (5 lbs) for $7. Normally it's double that.

We have stocked up.

We're raising pigs too, and chickens of course.

I'll have to start growing nettles too. Had no idea of their value . Thanks for sharing.

As far as knowing what to believe, I've just decided that you can't trust anybody. Just the Lord. And the Scriptures.

[nightowl]

Reason people need to start looking at alt tech. Like bitchute and others.
But yea it is very concerning how all this is playing out. This social distancing is literately prolonging the pain imho.
People literally think if you get the virus it is a death sentence. It is not. The death rate is very low.

[David13]

There is a difference between fear-mongering propaganda and telling it like it is. But maybe you have some conspiracy theory you prefer to reality.

Best wishes, 2RM.

Did you know that every 1% increase in unemployment leads to 70,000 suicides in the US? People who have young families to care for and years ahead of them.

https://digitalcommons.bryant.edu/cgi/v ... _economics

Oh OK. I get it. Let's not bother to try to save lives by altering our discretionary behaviour, since this pales into insignificance compared to the determinism of suicides per % point of unemployment.

Best wishes, 2RM.

Watch this video and then tell me you are "saving lives". Because you are not. You are just spouting the nonsense that megalomaniacal government despots spoon feed to you.

And no, little Johnny, you are not "saving lives" by washing your hands either. The virus is not on your hands.

dc

[JohnnyL]

From some more recent studies, it appears that density and mass transit are the key elements for infection.

If the city of NY had simply shut down mass transit, it appears that it would have had a greater impact than all of the violation of rights they have implemented.

Yet, Taiwan is very dense, and didn't shut down mass transit.

[JohnnyL]

Did you know that every 1% increase in unemployment leads to 70,000 suicides in the US? People who have young families to care for and years ahead of them.

https://digitalcommons.bryant.edu/cgi/v ... _economics

INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER!!

[Serragon]

From some more recent studies, it appears that density and mass transit are the key elements for infection.

If the city of NY had simply shut down mass transit, it appears that it would have had a greater impact than all of the violation of rights they have implemented.

Yet, Taiwan is very dense, and didn't shut down mass transit.

I can't speak to what happened in Taiwan. The study I read about specifically tracked infection in NYC.

[JohnnyL]

From some more recent studies, it appears that density and mass transit are the key elements for infection.

If the city of NY had simply shut down mass transit, it appears that it would have had a greater impact than all of the violation of rights they have implemented.

Yet, Taiwan is very dense, and didn't shut down mass transit.

I can't speak to what happened in Taiwan. The study I read about specifically tracked infection in NYC.

True, but it seems weird that the two top answers for NYC, have little influence in other places.

[Serragon]

From some more recent studies, it appears that density and mass transit are the key elements for infection.

If the city of NY had simply shut down mass transit, it appears that it would have had a greater impact than all of the violation of rights they have implemented.

Yet, Taiwan is very dense, and didn't shut down mass transit.

I can't speak to what happened in Taiwan. The study I read about specifically tracked infection in NYC.

True, but it seems weird that the two top answers for NYC, have little influence in other places.

I suspect they did things to mitigate the potential of spread, like require masks, limit the number of people on the train, etc. But I would just be guessing.

My point was simply to indicate that if the stated goals of our government were really to keep the spread of the virus below a level which would overwhelm our healthcare system, there were much more effective ways to do it that violated the natural rights of no one. Instead they chose to violate everyone's rights and leave running the biggest cause of infection in the city.

[JohnnyL]

Yet, Taiwan is very dense, and didn't shut down mass transit.

I can't speak to what happened in Taiwan. The study I read about specifically tracked infection in NYC.

True, but it seems weird that the two top answers for NYC, have little influence in other places.

I suspect they did things to mitigate the potential of spread, like require masks, limit the number of people on the train, etc. But I would just be guessing.

My point was simply to indicate that if the stated goals of our government were really to keep the spread of the virus below a level which would overwhelm our healthcare system, there were much more effective ways to do it that violated the natural rights of no one. Instead they chose to violate everyone's rights and leave running the biggest cause of infection in the city.

I absolutely agree with that paragraph!

And Taiwan did: mask required to ride, and they encouraged social distancing, sometimes a little more.

In addition:
I see all these healthworkers "so overworked", "we work all day", "five people die every day I work." What do they usually do?? Sit around all day? Lol.
How hard would it have been/ be to have all those surgeons, doctors, nurses, etc., go to other hospitals to help out?
How hard, to send patients to another hospital not far away?

How about taxing junk food, soda, sugar and other things that cause obesity and heart problems?

[Toto]

Did you know that every 1% increase in unemployment leads to 70,000 suicides in the US? People who have young families to care for and years ahead of them.

https://digitalcommons.bryant.edu/cgi/v ... _economics

INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER!!

Here is some more relevant information from Dr. Mercola:

How Many Will Die From the Mental Health Fallout?

The U.S. was already on the brink of a mental health crisis prior to the COVID-19 pandemic. But the associated stresses, which run the gamut from isolation and anxiety to unemployment and illness, are now threatening to create a mental health emergency among Americans.

Such was the case during the Great Depression, when suicide rates reached an all-time high,20 and again during the Great Recession, when at least 10,000 additional "economic suicides" occurred between 2008 and 2010.21

"Job loss, debt and foreclosure increase risks of suicidal thinking," researchers wrote in The British Journal of Psychiatry.22 Another study looking at the association between suicide and unemployment in 63 countries between 2000 and 2011, which notably included the 2008 global economic recession, found the relative risk of suicide associated with unemployment was elevated by 20% to 30% during the study period.

Read the full article at https://articles.mercola.com/sites/arti ... =857099772

[JohnnyL]

Did you know that every 1% increase in unemployment leads to 70,000 suicides in the US? People who have young families to care for and years ahead of them.

https://digitalcommons.bryant.edu/cgi/v ... _economics

INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER!!

Here is some more relevant information from Dr. Mercola:

How Many Will Die From the Mental Health Fallout?

The U.S. was already on the brink of a mental health crisis prior to the COVID-19 pandemic. But the associated stresses, which run the gamut from isolation and anxiety to unemployment and illness, are now threatening to create a mental health emergency among Americans.

Such was the case during the Great Depression, when suicide rates reached an all-time high,20 and again during the Great Recession, when at least 10,000 additional "economic suicides" occurred between 2008 and 2010.21

"Job loss, debt and foreclosure increase risks of suicidal thinking," researchers wrote in The British Journal of Psychiatry.22 Another study looking at the association between suicide and unemployment in 63 countries between 2000 and 2011, which notably included the 2008 global economic recession, found the relative risk of suicide associated with unemployment was elevated by 20% to 30% during the study period.

Read the full article at https://articles.mercola.com/sites/arti ... =857099772

And suicide is just counting the last link on the chain for some. How many are and will be suffering all the way up to, but not including, suicide?

Then add to that poor health, malnutrition, poverty, homelessness, stress from it all those things, stress from the media about the virus, stress from..., stress from...

[ajax]

We shall see.

Just ask yourself, as the weeks turn into months which turn into years....

1) Why does Trump only hire Deep Staters, and NEVER any non bureaucrats / non Establishment guys?
2) Why do the investigations drone on forever and there are never any indictments, much less prosecutions? Not one Swamp Creature is tasting justice. Ain't gonna happen. Why?
3) Trump does entertain us with his true charges of "You're fake news," but then only speaks to the Fake News, and only allows the Corporate Media to interview him.
4) Why does Trump not investigate the rampant election fraud?
5) Why does he allow the wholesale censorship of the Internet (REAL election fraud)/ Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc. Why is he aiding and abetting Big Tech??
6) Why has Trump appointed Dr. Fauci and the scarf lady to deceive us with false numbers?
7) Why does Trump not expose the fraudulent CDC numbers?
8) Why has Trump not just allowed but orchestrated the utter and unprecedented destruction of the U.S. economy? It IS HAPPENING under his watch.
9) Why has Trump not said ONE WORD about the corruption of Judge Amy B. Jackson? What if they are on the same team? What if they are fellow Gadiantons?
10) Why has he not pardoned Roger Stone? Easy HUGE victory for him with his base, but still no pardon?
11) #1 thing....why does Trump NEVER EVER EVER EVER speak in terms of obeying the Constitution? Remember in the past he has mocked Ron Paul.
12) Why has Trump not sounded the alarm about 5G? In fact he said on video he plans to accelerate the rapid rollout of 5G. This is a military weapon designed to kill with targeted precision.
13) In short, why is Trump all BARK and zero BITE?


I loved Trump -- loved and love his political incorrectness. But at the end of the day, he is all BARK and no BITE. He is a master deceiver. I was taken in by him -- I wanted to trust him. I kept making excuses for him. But had to conclude he's not stupid or ignorant. He knows.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

Trump has always been King of the Swamp
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=53489

Loves the military, gives them more and more money. Doesn't stop any wars. Just keeps status quo.
Loves the Fed. Has been clamouring for low to zero interest rates ever since he took office.
Pretty much led the hysterical response to shutdown.

[topcat]

We shall see.

Just ask yourself, as the weeks turn into months which turn into years....

1) Why does Trump only hire Deep Staters, and NEVER any non bureaucrats / non Establishment guys?
2) Why do the investigations drone on forever and there are never any indictments, much less prosecutions? Not one Swamp Creature is tasting justice. Ain't gonna happen. Why?
3) Trump does entertain us with his true charges of "You're fake news," but then only speaks to the Fake News, and only allows the Corporate Media to interview him.
4) Why does Trump not investigate the rampant election fraud?
5) Why does he allow the wholesale censorship of the Internet (REAL election fraud)/ Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc. Why is he aiding and abetting Big Tech??
6) Why has Trump appointed Dr. Fauci and the scarf lady to deceive us with false numbers?
7) Why does Trump not expose the fraudulent CDC numbers?
8) Why has Trump not just allowed but orchestrated the utter and unprecedented destruction of the U.S. economy? It IS HAPPENING under his watch.
9) Why has Trump not said ONE WORD about the corruption of Judge Amy B. Jackson? What if they are on the same team? What if they are fellow Gadiantons?
10) Why has he not pardoned Roger Stone? Easy HUGE victory for him with his base, but still no pardon?
11) #1 thing....why does Trump NEVER EVER EVER EVER speak in terms of obeying the Constitution? Remember in the past he has mocked Ron Paul.
12) Why has Trump not sounded the alarm about 5G? In fact he said on video he plans to accelerate the rapid rollout of 5G. This is a military weapon designed to kill with targeted precision.
13) In short, why is Trump all BARK and zero BITE?


I loved Trump -- loved and love his political incorrectness. But at the end of the day, he is all BARK and no BITE. He is a master deceiver. I was taken in by him -- I wanted to trust him. I kept making excuses for him. But had to conclude he's not stupid or ignorant. He knows.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

Trump has always been King of the Swamp
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=53489

Loves the military, gives them more and more money. Doesn't stop any wars. Just keeps status quo.
Loves the Fed. Has been clamouring for low to zero interest rates ever since he took office.
Pretty much led the hysterical response to shutdown.

Excellent points I had thought of most of all of those as well, and the list could get much longer.

[creator]

[creator]

Longer better version

[Robbinius]

Longer better version

This is amazing. Probably don't have much time to watch this before it gets pulled. I hope this guy doesn't get suicided.

[Toto]

Before joining this forum, I went looking for the elders who would save the Constitution. This is one of those individuals that I found. (Not to mention the Creator...of this forum)

[SPIRIT]

[Alexander]

Facebook Will Remove Content Organizing Protests Against Stay-at-Home Orders, Zuckerberg Says

https://www.thewrap.com/facebook-will-r ... y-at-home/